First time interracial (page 3)

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CB1984
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Posted - May 29 2013 : 04:40:35 PM
Hopefully others will continue the trend. Bonnie Rotten, Christy Mack. They should have a IR compilation with first timers such as those 2 n others with Lex or Prince.
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siripornstar
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Posted - Jun 2 2013 : 05:27:01 PM


InFamous wrote:

Hopes for 2013
Kendra Lust (Is open to it, hope it's be this year)
Tasha Reign (She said something on Twitter bout doing IR)
J Love
Rachael Starr (Look at Abbey Brooks who took 7 years but still but you nerve know)
Jessica Drake (Long shot but will do it when she is no longer in porn but who know)
Siri (Same with KL)

Edited by - InFamous on 5/27/2013 8:30:08 PM


I would like to do it this year, but it depends on the right offer from the right company. :) Ideally I'd like it to be for Elegant Angel (LT? ;D). If nobody makes me a good offer I may just debut my first IR scene on my upcoming VNA girls site.

P.S.: Good offer IMO is not necessarily about the paycheck but about publicity, marketing and promotion.

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InFamous
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Posted - Jun 2 2013 : 10:25:16 PM
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Cool, so who will it be your 1st, my money is Lexington Steele.
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MrWayneBrady
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Posted - Jun 3 2013 : 01:17:45 AM
I hate the fact that IR is a subject in porn. Is saying "black" to taboo for porn or is that simplest way to say, "sex with a black man"? EVERY performer in porn has done IR.
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matrixxx
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Posted - Jun 3 2013 : 04:45:30 AM


siripornstar wrote:

I would like to do it this year, but it depends on the right offer from the right company. :) Ideally I'd like it to be for Elegant Angel (LT? ;D). If nobody makes me a good offer I may just debut my first IR scene on my upcoming VNA girls site.

P.S.: Good offer IMO is not necessarily about the paycheck but about publicity, marketing and promotion.



Jules Jordan and Mandingo would be perfect for you.
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siripornstar
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Posted - Jun 3 2013 : 06:30:14 PM


matrixxx wrote:


siripornstar wrote:

I would like to do it this year, but it depends on the right offer from the right company. :) Ideally I'd like it to be for Elegant Angel (LT? ;D). If nobody makes me a good offer I may just debut my first IR scene on my upcoming VNA girls site.

P.S.: Good offer IMO is not necessarily about the paycheck but about publicity, marketing and promotion.



Jules Jordan and Mandingo would be perfect for you.

I would definitely do Prince or Lex but no mandingo. Not looking to permanently sever my uterus in half. :)

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InFamous
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Posted - Jun 3 2013 : 08:18:10 PM
Allison Moore just shot her 1st IR with Lexington Steel for the Kardashian parody last week
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kingdarius
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Posted - Jun 3 2013 : 09:03:10 PM
^had to look her up cuz i nvr heard of her and she's pretty good looking with some nice naturals.....lets c if we cant get siri in a lex big tit title this year, cuz i know he's gonna make one
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warikahill
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Posted - Jun 4 2013 : 09:01:18 PM

I don't like Lex's stamina or lower body strength in dealing with a titan like Siri ~ he's been on an obvious physical decline for years now. I think a woman of her rare physical dimensions would be better highlighted by a big strong brotha like Nat Turnher who could make her white, creamy, phat cheeks ripple via standing doggie at 6'2, 235lbs then pick her up and powerfuck her for a while if she liked.

West Coast Productions could make that scene happen and they have the deep pockets to finance her IR debut too. Most importantly, WCP has a passionate and faithful IR fanbase that Siri could benefit from after her months of dodging IR requests have damaged her Q-rating.

Those vanilla fanboys here on ADT are just generally predisposed to favor the little, cute spinner types like Riley Reid and always have been ~ that's why she stays working; her paychecks likely run into each other and stack up everyweek from numerous vanilla and interracial shoots.

I don't believe its too late for Siri to galvanize a strong fanbase but she has made some poor choices this winter ~ she should have become the "It Girl" as a big, breasted blonde who earns cover after cover (vanilla and interracial) like Gianna Micheals circa 2005-2007 ~ remember how popular and marketable she was?

Now Siri needs that homerun of an interracial scene, and she needs it YESTERDAY . . . not some sleepy Lex or Sean Micheals slumberfuck scheduled for September 2013 but ASAP preferably with someone who can efffectively take her to the highest of heights, breaking new boundaries and powerfully bring the best out of her like Nat Turnher.

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siripornstar
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Posted - Jun 4 2013 : 11:15:52 PM


warikahill wrote:
Most importantly, WCP has a passionate and faithful IR fanbase that Siri could benefit from after her months of dodging IR requests have damaged her Q-rating.

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I don't believe its too late for Siri to galvanize a strong fanbase but she has made some poor choices this winter ~ she should have become the "It Girl" as a big, breasted blonde who earns cover after cover (vanilla and interracial) like Gianna Micheals circa 2005-2007 ~ remember how popular and marketable she was?


Thanks for your insights. However you seem to me not really to be a fan of mine in specific, though you clearly have an understanding of my body type. But if you were a fan of mine specifically, and had read my blog or paid any attention to how I have repeatedly addressed requests to do IR and anal (which almost always are requested simultaneously by the same guys) then you wouldn't even be saying the things you said above.

1) First of all, what the hell is a Q-rating?? Second, the term "dodging" is actually so annoying and offensive to me, it sometimes makes me want to not do IR at all, just because of the fans who are so into labeling girls as "dodgers." I am a human being, just like you, and when my career progresses forward should be up to me. I've made it very clear that I WILL do IR, I WILL do anal, I WILL do gangbangs, I WILL do DPs, and all of the other lovely things y'all want to see- WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT. And the timing is not your judgment call to make. Supposed "fans" who label me a dodger are guys that I believe have absolutely no respect for me as a performer nor a human being. And why would I want to reward that?

(Side note: I have written many times on my blog about my disapproval of the way the industry categorizes, even fetishizes, interracial porn to the point that it garners a higher scene rate and is considered more hardcore than a white girl fucking a white guy. Which is actually the largest reason that I have held out for so long - I want to do IR when I have enough "Star" power to negotiate the details of the scene. I don't have a fetish for fucking black men any more than I have one for fucking white men. A cock is a cock to me. I don't intend to EVER do scenes that put me in the role of the innocent, vanilla white girl being taken advantage of and/or "converted" to black cock by a big black man in a way that just makes it into nothing more than a skin color fetish. Sorry, but if anything is racist, THAT is.) (Another side note, Gianna waited much longer than one year to do IR.)

2) I must presume that whatever "poor choices" you might be referring to stem from the fact that I left my agent in January because we disagreed on nearly everything, and he has since successfully blocked me from being able to work for nearly every single large production studio by using intimidation and threats. So the only work I have done in the past six months has been whatever I could scrounge up myself from companies who aren't terrified of my old agent, which is very, very few. Almost all of the work I've done since Jan has been filming my own things for clips4sale or doing the occasional skype show. Poor choices? I've done everything I can. The fact that I have had no amount of regular work for six months, and indeed had my old agent trying to prevent me getting work at every turn, yet I still managed to get third place in Miss FreeOnes 2013, is pretty fucking impressive to me.

Your post was clearly well-intentioned, but you have no idea what you're talking about. /RANT

Sorry for co-opting the thread for a minute there. Continue on... lol.


Edited by - siripornstar on 6/4/2013 11:18:29 PM

Edited by - siripornstar on 6/4/2013 11:19:23 PM

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killbillvol69
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Posted - Jun 5 2013 : 12:03:00 AM
^ Thanks for the insight Siri.

warikahill, you have been asked by a moderator before to decline from such posts, as they are kind of 'harping' on girls doing IR. You frame it in a thinly-veiled "it would be good for your career" lining, but anyone can see that you're really just saying "you need to do this".

Please, refrain from making these types of posts again. This is your second official warning.

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kingdarius
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Posted - Jun 5 2013 : 12:27:17 AM
why u always make these post hersch? these nvr change chicks minds so whats the point of it smh....oh and the nat turnher luv (especially when it comes to his physique and stamina) is just plain weird lol
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killbillvol69
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Posted - Jun 5 2013 : 12:36:19 AM

siripornstar wrote:
...Gianna waited much longer than one year to do IR.

I almost didn't want to say anything because it might lend credence to what warikahill had to say, but I'm a stickler for details: Gianna did not wait much longer than one year to do IR. Her first DVD was shot December 2004 - it was a solo scene - and by December 2005 she had already had 19 IR scenes released on DVD (and likely more shot, that were released in early 2006). (Source: her IAFD page and the production date in this review from Den. RIP Den.)

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siripornstar
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Posted - Jun 5 2013 : 09:35:46 PM


killbillvol69 wrote:

siripornstar wrote:
...Gianna waited much longer than one year to do IR.

I almost didn't want to say anything because it might lend credence to what warikahill had to say, but I'm a stickler for details: Gianna did not wait much longer than one year to do IR. Her first DVD was shot December 2004 - it was a solo scene - and by December 2005 she had already had 19 IR scenes released on DVD (and likely more shot, that were released in early 2006). (Source: her IAFD page and the production date in this review from Den. RIP Den.)


Cool. I was totally wrong on that one, then! Thanks for the information, killbill. I stand corrected. :) Either way my plan has never been to do everything Gianna did, lol, so it doesn't change my main point in my original post.

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bumblaster
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Posted - Jun 5 2013 : 10:25:48 PM
I am now a Siri fan.

Thanks for your insight on IR and the industry.

You rock.

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juggerburn
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Posted - Jun 6 2013 : 04:21:44 AM
Waiting years for a girl to do ir is like seeing a trailer for a movie and finally getting a chance to watch it 5 years later. By then it's a joke and you're no longer excited about it. By the time you watch it, you're cracking on it the whole time and wondering why this crap took so long to come out. 1st ir is a joke and i'm not sure what fan it serves, but it is leaving many people out of the loop. I no longer look forward to first Ir's lol. I can't remember the last time I got excited about a first ir and i'm not sure why producers are paying a lot for them, especially if the girl has been out for years lol. Maybe if the wait wasn't so long, like maybe 6 months tops. But I think the average is like 4 years.


Edited by - juggerburn on 6/6/2013 2:20:59 PM

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Draxxx
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Posted - Jun 6 2013 : 09:26:19 AM


siripornstar wrote:

(Side note: I have written many times on my blog about my disapproval of the way the industry categorizes, even fetishizes, interracial porn to the point that it garners a higher scene rate and is considered more hardcore than a white girl fucking a white guy. Which is actually the largest reason that I have held out for so long - I want to do IR when I have enough "Star" power to negotiate the details of the scene. I don't have a fetish for fucking black men any more than I have one for fucking white men. A cock is a cock to me. I don't intend to EVER do scenes that put me in the role of the innocent, vanilla white girl being taken advantage of and/or "converted" to black cock by a big black man in a way that just makes it into nothing more than a skin color fetish. Sorry, but if anything is racist, THAT is.)


I admire that your heart is in the right place but to be honest that type of thinking is great for the real world but sorta wasted in the world of porn.

Porn is all about fantasy, fetish and entertainment. It's not about being politically correct, or seeking moral high ground. Pornstars are perfomers playing roles in order to please fans who are into all sorts of different fetishes. When it comes to porn I don't think there's much difference between playing a "vanilla white girl being taken advantage of" and playing a horny neighbor or sexy secretary. Yeah, one might be more insulting or degrading than the other but it's all role-playing. Unfortunately, some people's fetishes are non PC but as long as everyone understands they are simply fantasies and as long as people performing those acts aren't being hurt in any way and they are within the law and those who don't like them aren't being forced to watch them...I don't think there's nothing wrong with it. More importantly for you, it's work. With the porn business in it's current state turning down such gigs probably wouldn't be in your best interest. These type of scenes will continue to be made so why shouldn't it be you using it to help your career? As long as fans know the real you and what's in your heart they know you're only playing parts and will suport your choices.

Also, never feel conflicted or bad about taking advantage of getting more for any sort of sex act. If the studio will make more money from you doing IR or whatever because of your hard work in building a fanbase why shouldn't you make more for something that's in demand? that's between you and the studio/director and something fans shouldn't be worrying about anyway. Knowing you made more or less for any scene doesn't/shouldn't affect a fan's enjoyment. Stay on course and do what you need to do to be successful in a business that is often tough to be a success in.

Not telling you what to do but just offering up things to consider. Just keep doing the best you can and I'm sure you'll do fine. Good Luck.

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InFamous
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Posted - Jun 6 2013 : 09:33:16 AM
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Like Bill said can we get back on topic, Siri was nice to post here on her doing IR.

Edited by - Infamous on 6/6/2013 9:36:25 AM

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siripornstar
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Posted - Jun 6 2013 : 02:29:43 PM


Draxxx wrote:

I admire that your heart is in the right place but to be honest that type of thinking is great for the real world but sorta wasted in the world of porn.

Porn is all about fantasy, fetish and entertainment. It's not about being politically correct, or seeking moral high ground. Pornstars are perfomers playing roles in order to please fans who are into all sorts of different fetishes. When it comes to porn I don't think there's much difference between playing a "vanilla white girl being taken advantage of" and playing a horny neighbor or sexy secretary. Yeah, one might be more insulting or degrading than the other but it's all role-playing. Unfortunately, some people's fetishes are non PC but as long as everyone understands they are simply fantasies and as long as people performing those acts aren't being hurt in any way and they are within the law and those who don't like them aren't being forced to watch them...I don't think there's nothing wrong with it. More importantly for you, it's work. With the porn business in it's current state turning down such gigs probably wouldn't be in your best interest. These type of scenes will continue to be made so why shouldn't it be you using it to help your career? As long as fans know the real you and what's in your heart they know you're only playing parts and will suport your choices.


Some people's fetishes may be un-PC or even backwards, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to cater to them. I only perform in scenes that I'm personally engaged in and sexually turned on/satisfied by. I'm not here to fake it for a paycheck, and I understand that may result in less work up front, but I'm pretty sure it will only help my career in the long run. :)

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LCF
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Posted - Jun 6 2013 : 03:55:18 PM


Draxxx wrote:

I admire that your heart is in the right place but to be honest that type of thinking is great for the real world but sorta wasted in the world of porn.

Porn is all about fantasy, fetish and entertainment. It's not about being politically correct, or seeking moral high ground. Pornstars are perfomers playing roles in order to please fans who are into all sorts of different fetishes.


It is an interesting point of view and I admit you're consistent with it in your whole posting on this board , but (yes there is a but) for example look at all the controversy the scene with Ryan Madison and Skin Diamond at pornfidelity is getting , yet even those pissed know it is inspired from Django Unleashed.

You also will note that Sean Michaels, Mandingo or Jack Napier are not keen to play every role.

What Siri said is that she doesn't want to play a role who is based on racial differences , If I'm not mistaken she would rather play a passionate lover or wife of a black man then to play the victim of some thugs escaped from jail who become a black cock slut ( I really hate this expression) just after being almost gang raped by them

Zoe Voss ceased to perform IR for this reason exactly , she was tired to have her race used against her (she said so) yet she did just after a Scene with Mickey Mod for Sweet Sinner who was just passion and where there was no mention of race or skin color whatsoever , and it is a great scene.

I'm sure that is the kind of scenes Siri would like to play

Edited by - LCF on 6/6/2013 3:57:31 PM

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siripornstar
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Posted - Jun 6 2013 : 04:02:48 PM


LCF wrote:
...I'm sure that is the kind of scenes Siri would like to play

Edited by - LCF on 6/6/2013 3:57:31 PM


<3<3<3 Indeed.

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Draxxx
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Posted - Jun 6 2013 : 08:51:13 PM


LCF wrote:

What Siri said is that she doesn't want to play a role who is based on racial differences , If I'm not mistaken she would rather play a passionate lover or wife of a black man then to play the victim of some thugs escaped from jail who become a black cock slut ( I really hate this expression) just after being almost gang raped by them

Zoe Voss ceased to perform IR for this reason exactly , she was tired to have her race used against her (she said so) yet she did just after a Scene with Mickey Mod for Sweet Sinner who was just passion and where there was no mention of race or skin color whatsoever , and it is a great scene.

I'm sure that is the kind of scenes Siri would like to play


I not only support her choice to not play those roles but I admire her for it. There are lots of people who are willing to forsake their beliefs for money or career advancement and it's nice to see people who make a stand against something they feel is wrong. That said...While I totally see her point I don't think such roles are that big a deal when it comes to porn. I might seem like I'm a big fan for those types of scenes but I'm mostly indifferent about them. I see it as just another role in a industry that services all types of fantasies. As long as the performers are willing and the people they play are also willing I just don't see it as a big deal...even when it's something I don't particularly care for. That type of stuff is easily indentifiable for people who want to avoid it. I honestly think such scenes are nothing in grand scheme of what gets shot in porn that I'd consider much more degrading to women (of any color). There are all sorts of IR sex senarios that can be done and performers should play the ones they feel most comfortable with and fans should watch the ones they like.

Siri has made her choices and I'm totally behind her.

And that's all I have to say because I don't want to get yelled at by KILLBILL again for going off topic.

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HotRod
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Posted - Jun 7 2013 : 01:42:41 AM
I honeslty believe that one of secrets in life it's "timing". I believe that Siri is choosing the right timing for her and we all should respect her for that.

Edited by - HotRod on 6/7/2013 1:43:07 AM

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LCF
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Posted - Jun 7 2013 : 03:02:39 AM


Draxxx wrote:


And that's all I have to say because I don't want to get yelled at by KILLBILL again for going off topic.



Neither do I , and luckily none of us is called BILL.

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CummingLinguist
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Posted - Jun 7 2013 : 09:31:43 AM


siripornstar wrote:

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I left my agent in January because we disagreed on nearly everything, and he has since successfully blocked me from being able to work for nearly every single large production studio by using intimidation and threats.
...


I've been wondering why you haven't been getting more work, as I was convinced you were destined for stardom the first time I saw one of your scenes.

What can your fans do to help this situation?

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LCF
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buy , buy and buy

of course

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siripornstar
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Posted - Jun 7 2013 : 02:52:26 PM


LCF wrote:
^
buy , buy and buy

of course


+1,000,000
that is correct!

support me directly:
http://siripornstar.tumblr.com/porn
http://siripornstar.tumblr.com/dvds
http://www.clips4sale.com/56567

:)

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Babuapb
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Sorry to hear you are having problems with agents and finding work... But actually I think being on your own may be the best thing. I mean, I realize it gets much harder, but it's also true that this way YOU are the only one deciding about your career and you alone choose which direction you want to go, what to do and when to do it.

IMO it should be like this for every woman in the biz and I respect you all the more for having the courage to dump an agent who wants to tell you what you should or shouldn't do with your career (screw that bastard! >:E). He may try to kill your professional future, but I bet he will fail miserably, cause you are a star and nothing is going to stop you!
Your all-natural, stunning beauty and your voluptuous, sexy body are pure bliss in a world where plastic, silicone and exceedingly heavy makeup reign supreme (so depressing... :()

For all it matters you have my full support; thank you for providing the links, I'll be sure to get your scenes directly from you in the future

Gogo Siri, show 'em what you are made of! ;D

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Pentasa
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Siri, would you be interested in shooting your 1st IR with Dogfart?

Being a member over there, I can recommend you to them.

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killbillvol69
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 07:45:01 AM
^ Did you read anything she wrote? Dogfart is pretty much the opposite of what she's wanting to do.
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dragon54
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 09:43:54 AM


siripornstar wrote:


Draxxx wrote:

I admire that your heart is in the right place but to be honest that type of thinking is great for the real world but sorta wasted in the world of porn.

Porn is all about fantasy, fetish and entertainment. It's not about being politically correct, or seeking moral high ground. Pornstars are perfomers playing roles in order to please fans who are into all sorts of different fetishes. When it comes to porn I don't think there's much difference between playing a "vanilla white girl being taken advantage of" and playing a horny neighbor or sexy secretary. Yeah, one might be more insulting or degrading than the other but it's all role-playing. Unfortunately, some people's fetishes are non PC but as long as everyone understands they are simply fantasies and as long as people performing those acts aren't being hurt in any way and they are within the law and those who don't like them aren't being forced to watch them...I don't think there's nothing wrong with it. More importantly for you, it's work. With the porn business in it's current state turning down such gigs probably wouldn't be in your best interest. These type of scenes will continue to be made so why shouldn't it be you using it to help your career? As long as fans know the real you and what's in your heart they know you're only playing parts and will suport your choices.


Some people's fetishes may be un-PC or even backwards, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to cater to them. I only perform in scenes that I'm personally engaged in and sexually turned on/satisfied by. I'm not here to fake it for a paycheck, and I understand that may result in less work up front, but I'm pretty sure it will only help my career in the long run. :)


Funny how she says she disapproves how the industry fetishizes IR to the point where is garners a higher scene rate then go on to say she wants to wait until she gets more star power so she can get more money to do IR. Amazing. Clearly she sees it as a fetish too if she is waiting as she says. If there was not difference between having sex with a white guy and a black one as she says the she would have done IR off the bat.


Edited by - dragon54 on 6/10/2013 9:45:11 AM

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LCF
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From what she said it was crystal clear she referred to "star power" as a mean to choose the talent she will work with. Also if everyone else is paid more to do something why should she earn less?
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dragon54
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LCF wrote:
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From what she said it was crystal clear she referred to "star power" as a mean to choose the talent she will work with. Also if everyone else is paid more to do something why should she earn less?


There are decent amount of non racist IR themed companies in the industry. It seems Siri is waiting on companies to offer her more money for first IR shoot. Siri said, that women receiving a higher rate for IR is wrong.

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LCF
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 03:34:31 PM
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Being dumb is also wrong , why should she drop her fares if everybody else don't?
Would that change anything? It is the market who fetished IR not Siri , it was the producers who commercialized IR as an extraordinary thing to the point they had to pay more for that.

she didn't ask for the right company just for the money but for context , it is plainly clear , also even if she wants to earn as much as possible , given her current situation , I can't really blame her

the companies you mentioned maybe didn't offer her to work with them

Edited by - LCF on 6/10/2013 3:36:40 PM

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dragon54
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 04:09:28 PM


LCF wrote:
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Being dumb is also wrong , why should she drop her fares if everybody else don't?
Would that change anything? It is the market who fetished IR not Siri , it was the producers who commercialized IR as an extraordinary thing to the point they had to pay more for that.

she didn't ask for the right company just for the money but for context , it is plainly clear , also even if she wants to earn as much as possible , given her current situation , I can't really blame her

the companies you mentioned maybe didn't offer her to work with them


Edited by - LCF on 6/10/2013 3:36:40 PM


We don't see their pay checks. I doubt every single performer takes the higher IR rate.

Here main grape was the way IR was shot. One company may have offered Siri.


http://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/l-t-appreciation-discussion/53

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killbillvol69
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 04:26:57 PM

dragon54 wrote:

siripornstar wrote:
Some people's fetishes may be un-PC or even backwards, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to cater to them. I only perform in scenes that I'm personally engaged in and sexually turned on/satisfied by. I'm not here to fake it for a paycheck, and I understand that may result in less work up front, but I'm pretty sure it will only help my career in the long run. :)

Funny how she says she disapproves how the industry fetishizes IR to the point where is garners a higher scene rate then go on to say she wants to wait until she gets more star power so she can get more money to do IR. Amazing. Clearly she sees it as a fetish too if she is waiting as she says. If there was not difference between having sex with a white guy and a black one as she says the she would have done IR off the bat.


(emphasis mine)

No, she doesn't say that at all. Read what you quoted. She says she's not in it for the paychecque, she's in it for the right situation.

Read these earlier quotes as well:


siripornstar wrote:
I would like to do it this year, but it depends on the right offer from the right company. :) Ideally I'd like it to be for Elegant Angel (LT? ;D). If nobody makes me a good offer I may just debut my first IR scene on my upcoming VNA girls site.

P.S.: Good offer IMO is not necessarily about the paycheck but about publicity, marketing and promotion.


(again, emphasis mine)


siripornstar wrote:
I want to do IR when I have enough "Star" power to negotiate the details of the scene. I don't have a fetish for fucking black men any more than I have one for fucking white men. A cock is a cock to me. I don't intend to EVER do scenes that put me in the role of the innocent, vanilla white girl being taken advantage of and/or "converted" to black cock by a big black man in a way that just makes it into nothing more than a skin color fetish.

Nothing in what she says implies that she's holding out for the bigger paycheque. It does seem that she's holding out until someone offers her a scene that doesn't have race as a factor, and she believes that she has not yet reached a place where such opportunities will be given to her.

[edit: typo]

Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/10/2013 4:28:15 PM

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dragon54
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 04:45:47 PM
^ Siri has stated on this thread that she would work with LT. The linked in my last post indicates she may've turned an opportunity to shoot her 1st IR scene with LT. LT scenes do not have race as a factor.

[mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.]

Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/10/2013 5:28:40 PM

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LCF
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 04:52:38 PM
That was mid november , in June 2 she said:



siripornstar wrote:


I would like to do it this year, but it depends on the right offer from the right company. :) Ideally I'd like it to be for Elegant Angel (LT? ;D). If nobody makes me a good offer I may just debut my first IR scene on my upcoming VNA girls site.

P.S.: Good offer IMO is not necessarily about the paycheck but about publicity, marketing and promotion.


Emphasis to be blamed on me

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spacearrow99
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 05:20:23 PM


LCF wrote:
That was mid november , in June 2 she said:



siripornstar wrote:

I would like to do it this year, but it depends on the right offer from the right company. :) Ideally I'd like it to be for Elegant Angel (LT? ;D). If nobody makes me a good offer I may just debut my first IR scene on my upcoming VNA girls site.

P.S.: Good offer IMO is not necessarily about the paycheck but about publicity, marketing and promotion.


Emphasis to be blamed on me


Siri probably turned LT's offer for her first IR scene.

Edited by - spacearrow99 on 6/10/2013 5:23:24 PM

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killbillvol69
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 05:30:23 PM
spacearrow and dragon: Why do you guys assume Siri had an offer from LT?

Remember that he tries to shoot anal almost always, and she doesn't do anal yet. It's very possible that she has not gotten an offer from him.

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LCF
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 05:41:11 PM
Also Siri is in porn less than a year even if she refused LT offer it was in NOVEMBER , 8 months ago, maybe she wasn't just ready back then, also at the time she had an agent, maybe it was HIM who didn't accept the offer, remember she was a newbie and surely had not enough power to force anything.

Now she is on her own and deal for herself , it is a complete different situation.


but what is really puzzling me is how so many people just cant accept a gift , she decided , given the right offer, to do IR , be happy with this.

If a girl i always dreamt of suddenly decides to have sex with me , I'd take the chance, surely I wouldn't question less of all hit her because she didn't earlier

so why are we still discussing this matter?

it's senseless

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siripornstar
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LCF wrote:
^
From what she said it was crystal clear she referred to "star power" as a mean to choose the talent she will work with. Also if everyone else is paid more to do something why should she earn less?

What I've said repeatedly is this: I am not looking for an offer of the highest paycheck. I am looking for great marketing and publicity and a film that does not solely focus on skin color differences.

That being said, I will expect to be paid a rate proportional to how much the company will profit from selling that scene. To agree to a company hiring me and paying me my standard B/G sex rate for a scene that they will profit off of 3 times more than any of my standard sex scenes, would be bad business. I'm not expecting a $5000 paycheck or something ridiculous like that, just something proportional to how much profit the company will make on my scene.

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siripornstar
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 07:19:06 PM


killbillvol69 wrote:
spacearrow and dragon: Why do you guys assume Siri had an offer from LT?

Remember that he tries to shoot anal almost always, and she doesn't do anal yet. It's very possible that she has not gotten an offer from him.


Killbill, you're correct here.

I've never received an offer from LT/Elegant Angel. Not while I was still with LA Direct, nor since I've been booking myself independently.

In fact I've never received any offers from anybody with EA since the one shoot I did with them, Fuck My Tits 7.

And it very well may be because I don't do anal yet. But I read these threads, too, and I don't know why some of you guys think LT made me an offer when nothing in these threads would suggest that. It's more the opposite - I've repeatedly stated how much I would love to shoot for any of the Elegant directors again, especially an interracial scene for LT. But alas I have not received any offers, and therefore never had a chance to turn anything down as you've suggested.

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blkknight1
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Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 10:53:50 PM
In all deference to the Siri talk would it not be better to have that in her thread. I thought this thread was a place to announce and do a little speculation on some girls doing their first IR scenes. Siri has said she is waiting for an offer which may or may not come so that should have put an end to that discussion in this thread and any further discussion should be done in a thread dedicated to her specifically. With that being said and in an attempt to go back to the original premise of the topic.

Chloe Chaos shot her first IR scene for brazzers with Sean Michaels about a month ago Chloe Chaos first ir, so we should be looking for it sometime in 2014 if Brazzers hold true to form with.

About girls I look forwarding to shooting their first scenes all available for IR now.
Jay Taylor
Ryan Smiles
Alana Rains
Noelle Easton

Long Shots but maybe could happen
Avril Hall - technically would be her first professional IR though she did IR as an amatuer
Staci Silverstone


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LCF
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Posted - Jun 11 2013 : 05:17:32 AM
Well actually the Siri talk shows how difficult it is to get hired for IR even when willing to do that.

as for for Avril Hall, could you explain?
Was it for Homemedia?
If so with what name?

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blkknight1
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Posted - Jun 11 2013 : 06:54:50 AM
Avril Hall did an IR on JT Video billed as her first scene ever. Just google JT Video + Avril Hall + interracial.
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LCF
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Posted - Jun 11 2013 : 09:20:57 AM
Thank you
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juggerburn
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Posted - Jun 11 2013 : 04:01:02 PM


siripornstar wrote:


LCF wrote:
^
From what she said it was crystal clear she referred to "star power" as a mean to choose the talent she will work with. Also if everyone else is paid more to do something why should she earn less?

What I've said repeatedly is this: I am not looking for an offer of the highest paycheck. I am looking for great marketing and publicity and a film that does not solely focus on skin color differences.

That being said, I will expect to be paid a rate proportional to how much the company will profit from selling that scene. To agree to a company hiring me and paying me my standard B/G sex rate for a scene that they will profit off of 3 times more than any of my standard sex scenes, would be bad business. I'm not expecting a $5000 paycheck or something ridiculous like that, just something proportional to how much profit the company will make on my scene.


Hey Siri. Hopefully I didn't offend you with my first time interracial rant. Though I still maintain that I wish the industry would get rid of the practice of advising girls to wait. Some of us don't want to wait :). just saw a picture of you and I think you may have potential in this industry.

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AlexanderDeVoe
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Posted - Jun 11 2013 : 06:28:50 PM
2013 and we still can't get beyond this topic. porn is not a reflection of "real" life. No one should be paid more to do a Black dude, just as no Black girl is paid more to do a white guy. Agents need to stop this practice with a quickness.

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Draxxx
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Posted - Jun 11 2013 : 08:30:59 PM
^ It's not as simple as agents having the girls charge more. As long as agents, girls, studios, directors and fans all keep making IR a bigger deal than it needs to be all areas of the porn biz will take advatage of it. I still see "First Time Interracial" on boxcovers from some studios, girls who choose to not do it until the money/timing is right, and fans who constantly pester girls to it. It's become this big deal from all factions....so naturally people find a way to exploit it. It's just the way things work. The genie's out of the bottle, and you can't put it back in at this point.
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