How much do pornstars earn per movie/scene?

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klilin
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Posted - Aug 3 2004 : 07:08:00 AM
I'm just curious coz I've read that they really get paid tons and tons of money. Do girls get paid way higher than the guys? I'm talking about the already famous ones like Lauren Phoenix, Cytherea, Teagan and Taylor Rain (my favorites hehehe). It is like somewhere near 5 thousand dollars per scene or a lot more coz I don't have any idea. What are the rates (between an average pornstar and a famous one or those who are new to the business/one-time pornstars like those in Rodney Moore's flicks)? Conditions? Thanks and sorry if my question sounds rude or improper. I'm just curious and wanted to have an idea.
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Posted - Aug 3 2004 : 07:46:00 AM

Girls get paid a standard rate for various type of sex acts in the scene(s) they're hired to do. There's not much variation in price between girls who are bigger names and girls who aren't - standard rate for b/g with no anal is $700-800, some girls quote $900, some $1000 - most i've heard for simple b/g is $2000, the girl didn't get many bookings at that price. A large part of the biz depends on the new girls, so there are some people who will pay a premium to shoot a brand new girl first. Vince Vouyer paid Paulina 3 grand - it's the only b/g scene she's ever done and probably will ever do.

Girls get another couple hundred bucks for anal, more for DP, DAP etc. Girl/Girl pays $5-600.

Lots of girls will work for less than $800. I know girls we've paid $800 who have shot for other people I know for $400-500.

Contract girls make more per movie BUT they work a helluva lot less than other girls and don't make anywhere near the money a hard working non-contract girl does.

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Cum-devotee
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Posted - Aug 3 2004 : 12:13:00 PM
So they participate porn-expo as part of their side-income?



*Mutt* wrote:

Girls get paid a standard rate for various type of sex acts in the scene(s) they're hired to do. There's not much variation in price between girls who are bigger names and girls who aren't - standard rate for b/g with no anal is $700-800, some girls quote $900, some $1000 - most i've heard for simple b/g is $2000, the girl didn't get many bookings at that price. A large part of the biz depends on the new girls, so there are some people who will pay a premium to shoot a brand new girl first. Vince Vouyer paid Paulina 3 grand - it's the only b/g scene she's ever done and probably will ever do.

Girls get another couple hundred bucks for anal, more for DP, DAP etc. Girl/Girl pays $5-600.

Lots of girls will work for less than $800. I know girls we've paid $800 who have shot for other people I know for $400-500.

Contract girls make more per movie BUT they work a helluva lot less than other girls and don't make anywhere near the money a hard working non-contract girl does.



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Cum-devotee wrote:
So they participate porn-expo as part of their side-income?

not sure i know what u mean by 'porn-expo'. if u mean shows like Erotica LA, the big one in Las Vegas etc where the fans can come and meet the pornstars - girls can make side income at those type of things, either getting paid to do autograph signings or selling their own stuff.

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Zoid
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What does male talent earn?
What does a director make per (gonzo) title? min-max.

Any insight, Mutt?

Edited by - Zoid on 8/3/2004 1:53:53 PM

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Zoid,

I can't answer your director question directly, but a director would be in a different category.

Talent is paid per scene, or film, period. There are no residuals or anything that comes after the scene is shot. The director however can benefit (profit) from the number of copies distributed/sold. The more successful the sales, the better off for him.

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Zoid
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Posted - Aug 3 2004 : 04:46:00 PM
Yeah, that's probably the case. However, I saw this thread where Skeeter was facing some idiotic accusations and mentioned he makes 4-6 grand a day.. in the moment of anger.
I am just wondering how many days he spends shooting a video. And is that a lot by comparison with others? I mean not every director is Skeeter Kerkove.
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davecummings
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Zoid wrote:
What does male talent earn?
What does a director make per (gonzo) title? min-max.

Any insight, Mutt?

Edited by - Zoid on 8/3/2004 1:53:53 PM


New guys/wannbe's will usually work for $100-250; established guys get $350-500 per scene; superstar guys make $600+ per sex scene. No residuals. Guys get paid the same rate whether or not they have to also "do" the girl anally, or shoot a cable version as well as a hard core version (it takes more time to do anal and cable)! I normally get $500 for B/G, but lately have been quoting $600 if it's anal and/or cable version along with hardcore.

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jagerclown
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Posted - Aug 4 2004 : 01:12:00 AM
So, a girl like Ariana Jollee who does Anal, DP and swallows must get a fuckload per scene. No wonder she's always smiling.
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klilin
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Posted - Aug 4 2004 : 06:08:00 AM
So I'm assuming that the reason why most pornstars who retired early like Ander Paige and others is because they were able to save enough money which they made in porn or is it just normal for pornstars to retire early (like 1-2 yrs only in porn). I mentioned Ander Paige because I think she could have been a successful pornstar in terms of financial aspect and being famous coz she's got the looks and the body and the correct attitude as well IMHO (aka the x-factor). Do you have an idea what's the average no. of movies done by pornstars who are already well-known like the ones I've mentioned (Lauren Phoenix, Teagan, Taylor Rain, Cytherea) coz I'm trying to compute how much they are earning monthly on the average aside from the "side incomes" like appearing in shows and signing autographs.

PS: MUTT - What's the title of the movie that you mentioned wherein Paulina got paid 3 grand by Vince Voyeur?

Also I want to ask you if you think that Jeanie Rivers is earning more now that she's working in a famous legal brothel in Las Vegas and has retired (I've only read this and not sure if it's true) coz she's one of my favorites too.

Thanks.

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*Mutt*
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Posted - Aug 4 2004 : 08:28:00 AM

girls who are hot, i mean hot in the business sense, popular and in demand, can work constantly - practically every day of the week if they want to, multiple scenes. i'm not sure how long that can last, Teagan's been around now for 8 months and shows no signs of slowing down - i have two scenes for her to shoot at $900 apiece, i can't get anywhere with her. i do know an agent told me that a girl he had awhile ago, the month before she became a contract girl, made 36 thousand dollars.

as far as pornstar vs escort in terms of income. i have no idea what prices are at the legal brothels in Nevada BUT escorts working for good agencies in big cities make a whole lot more than pornstar girls do. and if i had a sister or female friend who had decided she was going to work in the sex industry - i'd tell her to go for the escort career. more money, less creeps, nicer lifestyle.

as far as directors go, the run of the mill directors who don't have their own lines, meaning no ownership of their own movies make average livings - if they work their asses off 52 weeks a year they can do ok but budgets for porn movies have been squeezed hard and continue to be squeezed harder. Directors are given budgets to shoot a movie - their fees are derived from the budget, if the budget is 20,000 dollars and the costs to shoot the movie turn out to be 15,000 - the director keeps 5,000 for his efforts. some studios i've heard will give the director a bonus like a buck on each movie sold. i think this is a small minority of studios though.

it's down to the point where the talent makes more than the director, in lots of cases, MUCH more than the director.

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Porn Scout
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Posted - Aug 4 2004 : 09:26:00 PM
Mutt, it's interesting that you mention how porn budgets are being squeezed. I'm not surprised by that at all, considering how much product is being put out on the market these days. It seems like there's a new gonzo company every week and I just don't know who's buying all of these DVD's.
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Joe Krupa
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Posted - Aug 4 2004 : 10:00:00 PM


Porn Scout wrote:
Mutt, it's interesting that you mention how porn budgets are being squeezed. I'm not surprised by that at all, considering how much product is being put out on the market these days. It seems like there's a new gonzo company every week and I just don't know who's buying all of these DVD's.

I can remember buying silent, crappy 8 MM porn loops in the 70s for $25-$30 each, and thinking the price was cheap. That equates to roughly $100 in today's money, and to me it's like free porn. Plus they freaking swallow!

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Porn Scout
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Well, yeah, porn is basically pretty cheap these days, which is part of my point. There's so much product out there, it drives prices down across the board, unless you can come up with something that is truly unique or just better overall than everyone else. RLD makes pretty good porn for the most part, but it's not unusual to see their stuff selling for around $12.00 on AdultDVDMarketplace.com. Cum Swapping Sluts #7 (the new one) I believe is selling for $11.99 right now. Zero Tolerance titles are basically the same. Platinum X DVD's hold their value a little longer, but after a few months, most of their titles are down in the $13-$14 range, sometimes less. But then you look at Jules Jordan titles and it's a whole different ballgame. Invasian is still selling over $20 and the new Weapons of Ass Destruction is selling at around $24.00. In a few months, both titles will probably fall below $20.00, but that's still much, much better than most other studios are doing. And the thing is, these are just the retail prices. I don't know what everyone's wholesale prices are, but I have to assume that these sellers need to at least make a couple bucks per sale and if that's the case, it puts the wholesale price for some of these titles down below $10.00. Of course, ADM is all about moving product, so I think a lot of sellers are selling at a loss or they're buying excess inventory from distributors and retailers below wholesale. But still, it makes you wonder to what extent the studios, especially the gonzo companies, are being squeezed on price and how many units they have to sell just to break even on their budget. And so I'm not surprised to hear that production budgets are being squeezed.
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Posted - Aug 5 2004 : 02:37:00 AM
No wonder most directors get inovative in order to struggle for survival. Perhaps these are one of the main reasons that they heavily emphasis on circus act like DPs, DAPs, DVPs, Multiple cum-swallowing and so on. Most of the time are something out of context from our real life sexual activities. Inovatives is good but I find it sometimes they tend to overdo and ruin the whole good video. Any comment?




Porn Scout wrote:
Well, yeah, porn is basically pretty cheap these days, which is part of my point. There's so much product out there, it drives prices down across the board, unless you can come up with something that is truly unique or just better overall than everyone else. RLD makes pretty good porn for the most part, but it's not unusual to see their stuff selling for around $12.00 on AdultDVDMarketplace.com. Cum Swapping Sluts #7 (the new one) I believe is selling for $11.99 right now. Zero Tolerance titles are basically the same. Platinum X DVD's hold their value a little longer, but after a few months, most of their titles are down in the $13-$14 range, sometimes less. But then you look at Jules Jordan titles and it's a whole different ballgame. Invasian is still selling over $20 and the new Weapons of Ass Destruction is selling at around $24.00. In a few months, both titles will probably fall below $20.00, but that's still much, much better than most other studios are doing. And the thing is, these are just the retail prices. I don't know what everyone's wholesale prices are, but I have to assume that these sellers need to at least make a couple bucks per sale and if that's the case, it puts the wholesale price for some of these titles down below $10.00. Of course, ADM is all about moving product, so I think a lot of sellers are selling at a loss or they're buying excess inventory from distributors and retailers below wholesale. But still, it makes you wonder to what extent the studios, especially the gonzo companies, are being squeezed on price and how many units they have to sell just to break even on their budget. And so I'm not surprised to hear that production budgets are being squeezed.

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xxx_fan
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Posted - Aug 5 2004 : 06:55:00 AM
This is a fantastic thread, i've always wanted to know stuff like this.

One thing I am curious about is how many copies a title will sell. I really have no idea.

For example how many copies will a Platinum X title do, or something like Weapons Of Ass Destruction 3?

Also how do Gonzo sales compare to the likes of Vivid?

I'm also curious why performers would lock themselves in with a contract. If Like has been said they get more money per scene but shoot far less, what are the benefits?

Someone like Teagan could surely carry on making Gonzo titles and supposedly earn far more than a contract girl.

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davecummings wrote:


Zoid wrote:
What does male talent earn?
What does a director make per (gonzo) title? min-max.

Any insight, Mutt?



New guys/wannbe's will usually work for $100-250; established guys get $350-500 per scene; superstar guys make $600+ per sex scene. No residuals. Guys get paid the same rate whether or not they have to also "do" the girl anally, or shoot a cable version as well as a hard core version (it takes more time to do anal and cable)! I normally get $500 for B/G, but lately have been quoting $600 if it's anal and/or cable version along with hardcore.




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schedule with your psychaitrist,pronto!

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don juan wrote:
Doe you really think you need to pay men ANYTHING in order for them to do this work?If you say yes,I think you need to
schedule with your psychaitrist,pronto!

Don Juan,

It's time for you to quit slamming others and read the Forum Etiquette.

If you can't learn how to post and treat others with respect, then don't post.

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bigdick
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IMO the girls should get and deserve more than they currently do for performing some of the extreme circus acts today. If I was a someone like Kathy Anderson or Julie Silver and had to take Lex and some other guy giant cock up my ass for an hour I would want to get paid.
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IMO the girls should get and deserve more than they currently do for performing some of the extreme circus acts today. If I was a someone like Kathy Anderson or Julie Silver and had to take Lex and some other guy giant cock up my ass for an hour I would want to get paid.

So do I -- so do I .

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davecummings
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don juan wrote:


davecummings wrote:


Zoid wrote:
What does male talent earn?
What does a director make per (gonzo) title? min-max.

Any insight, Mutt?



New guys/wannbe's will usually work for $100-250; established guys get $350-500 per scene; superstar guys make $600+ per sex scene. No residuals. Guys get paid the same rate whether or not they have to also "do" the girl anally, or shoot a cable version as well as a hard core version (it takes more time to do anal and cable)! I normally get $500 for B/G, but lately have been quoting $600 if it's anal and/or cable version along with hardcore.




Doe you really think you need to pay men ANYTHING in order for them to do this work?If you say yes,I think you need to
schedule with your psychaitrist,pronto!

Your answer is at the link to "Becoming a Porn Star" found at the bottom of the first page in the Guest's section of my www.davecummings.com. Even with many of today's younger wannabe's loading up on the blue pill to impress folks, for some it boomerangs when that pill seems to keep them from a timely "money shot".

Everyone is absolutely certain that they are the exception to the Porn Industry's experience of the last 20 years about know-it-all new guys who tell you that they are the next Rocco, yet after struggling for wood and/or a cum shot they usually end up telling you "gosh, I swear that this has never happened to me before"!!!!!!

Good luck (if you're one of the many planning to become a porn star!!!

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imak
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right the fuck on Dave
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i always wondered about this kind of stuff, its interesting to know.

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I think a smart girl who plays her cards right, doesn't party too much and shows up on time can bank SERIOUS cash in a year's time. I mean, even an average-looking girl who can really cut it loose and has some personality -- not even a Teagan or Dana Vespoli-type who could seemingly cut it as a pro model or something -- can rip it to shreds if she has the game plan. Thousand bucks a day, five days a week, take a break here and there, work up to anal, IR, mini-bangs, a gang bang .... Take a break, come back, new look, new tricks, roll roll roll ... You got a house, a car, maybe a little side business .... or not.
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Posted - Aug 7 2004 : 05:26:00 AM
In general, a smart good looking, girl can make a damn good living fucking and sucking on camera.

But as is the case, nearly all the talent, male or female, may make as much money as they can but still can't make rent at the end of the month because they throw all their money into an incinerator.

None of us are dealing with the smartest people in the world. Porn by its very nature attracts gutter people because it is a gutter industry. It is the few that'll make it because they are smart enough to thrive in an industry where there are so many gutter pigs that'll just fuck themselves up over and over again until the ladder runs out of steps. Shit, I'm proud of being a gutter pig so don't think I'm not guilty of the bullshit.

Other than that, it's a fun industry to fuck around in.

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skronker wrote:
I think a smart girl who plays her cards right, doesn't party too much and shows up on time can bank SERIOUS cash in a year's time. I mean, even an average-looking girl who can really cut it loose and has some personality -- not even a Teagan or Dana Vespoli-type who could seemingly cut it as a pro model or something -- can rip it to shreds if she has the game plan. Thousand bucks a day, five days a week, take a break here and there, work up to anal, IR, mini-bangs, a gang bang .... Take a break, come back, new look, new tricks, roll roll roll ... You got a house, a car, maybe a little side business .... or not.

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Chico Wang wrote:
In general, a smart good looking, girl can make a damn good living fucking and sucking on camera.

But as is the case, nearly all the talent, male or female, may make as much money as they can but still can't make rent at the end of the month because they throw all their money into an incinerator.

None of us are dealing with the smartest people in the world. Porn by its very nature attracts gutter people because it is a gutter industry. It is the few that'll make it because they are smart enough to thrive in an industry where there are so many gutter pigs that'll just fuck themselves up over and over again until the ladder runs out of steps. Shit, I'm proud of being a gutter pig so don't think I'm not guilty of the bullshit.

Other than that, it's a fun industry to fuck around in.

Chico



skronker wrote:
I think a smart girl who plays her cards right, doesn't party too much and shows up on time can bank SERIOUS cash in a year's time. I mean, even an average-looking girl who can really cut it loose and has some personality -- not even a Teagan or Dana Vespoli-type who could seemingly cut it as a pro model or something -- can rip it to shreds if she has the game plan. Thousand bucks a day, five days a week, take a break here and there, work up to anal, IR, mini-bangs, a gang bang .... Take a break, come back, new look, new tricks, roll roll roll ... You got a house, a car, maybe a little side business .... or not.



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Splut,

When you quote someone, edit the quote down to just the portion you are responding to. It helps shorten the response. In this particular case, you didn't repsond to anything Chico said so the entire quote is not necessary.

Thanks.

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klilin
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Chico Wang wrote:
In general, a smart good looking, girl can make a damn good living fucking and sucking on camera.

But as is the case, nearly all the talent, male or female, may make as much money as they can but still can't make rent at the end of the month because they throw all their money into an incinerator.
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skronker wrote:
I think a smart girl who plays her cards right, doesn't party too much and shows up on time can bank SERIOUS cash in a year's time. I mean, even an average-looking girl who can really cut it loose and has some personality -- not even a Teagan or Dana Vespoli-type who could seemingly cut it as a pro model or something -- can rip it to shreds if she has the game plan. Thousand bucks a day, five days a week, take a break here and there, work up to anal, IR, mini-bangs, a gang bang .... Take a break, come back, new look, new tricks, roll roll roll ... You got a house, a car, maybe a little side business .... or not.
___________________________________________________________

So I'm assuming that most of the pornstars (say about 90%?) don't know how to save or spend their earnings? How 'bout Taylor Rain and the issues about her. Do you think that with all the movies she has made and the fame and success to go with it, she's still not financially stable at present. I think that if you're an "above average" pornstar like Cytherea, Lauren Phoenix or Teagan chances are that you're gonna succeed (financially) in the industry like what Tera Patrick or Brianna Banks have achieved so far compared to just being an average looking one. Or if you're really into porn (great performers aside from being sexy and beautiful) like Katja Kassin, Melissa Lauren, Jayna Oso, Belladonna, Ashley Blue and others then you have greater chances as well.

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imak
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I don't think success as a pornstar = success at managing your money. All people will handle their finances different, if your a dipshit it doesn't matter how much mo9ney you have you can fuck it up.

Edited by - kami on 8/10/2004 7:32:17 PM

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Kami wrote:
.... if your a dipshit it doesn't matter how much mo9ney you have you can fuck it up.


That's true, Kami. I am a fine example!

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imak
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i could stand some self control also
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skronker wrote:
Thousand bucks a day, five days a week, take a break here and there, work up to anal, IR, mini-bangs, a gang bang .... Take a break, come back, new look, new tricks, roll roll roll ... You got a house, a car, maybe a little side business .... or not.

This can't be true, can it? Are you serious?

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