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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq.
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:01:00 PM
I realize that this is a slightly unusual fetish, but considering all the niche porn out there (trannies, midgets etc), I find it surprising that I have been unable to find a single scene featuring a mentally retarded girl. Does anyone know of any? My experience with retarded girls is that many are intensely passionate and sexual, often combined with a very compliant nature - surely a winning formula for porn?
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:10:00 PM


T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq. wrote:
I realize that this is a slightly unusual fetish, but considering all the niche porn out there (trannies, midgets etc), I find it surprising that I have been unable to find a single scene featuring a mentally retarded girl. Does anyone know of any?

My experience with retarded girls is that many are intensely passionate and sexual, often combined with a very compliant nature - surely a winning formula for porn?



You are a sick fucker.

(Sorry, mods. I realize that wasn't a constructive reply. Unless, of course, he seeks therapy immediately as a result of my words.)

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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq.
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:21:00 PM


threesomebody wrote:

You are a sick fucker.


I'm sorry, I don't understand. It may not be to your tastes, but what is wrong with me appreciating the beauty and sexuality of girls with cognitive impairment?

Should porn just be made by and for "perfect" people?

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Try Max Hardcore.
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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq. wrote:
Should porn just be made by and for "perfect" people?

No danger of this.

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BigBobxxx
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:24:00 PM


T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq. wrote:


threesomebody wrote:

You are a sick fucker.


I'm sorry, I don't understand. It may not be to your tastes, but what is wrong with me appreciating the beauty and sexuality of girls with cognitive impairment?

Should porn just be made by and for "perfect" people?



Well, for one thing, it raises the issue of informed consent

Talk about a wood-killer!

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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:26:00 PM


BigBobxxx wrote:

Well, for one thing, it raises the issue of informed consent


Exactly. Where I am from, we prosecute people for that. I typically don't hear things like this discussed on this board, and for a good reason.

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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq.
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:35:00 PM

Well, for one thing, it raises the issue of informed consent

So is it your assumption that a mentally retarded person is not capable of giving informed consent? Should retarded adults be relegated to child status, denied the right to make life choices?

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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:38:00 PM
I only hate myself in the morning after taking Troll bait.

Aaaaaagggggghhhhhh!

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Tinaka
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:39:00 PM
Here we go again...


I have wondered about this myself. I thought there must be some girl with say, Downs Syndrome somewhere wanting to be a pornstar and then someone wanting to shoot retard porn. Consent would be good reason theres no porn like this.

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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq.
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:39:00 PM


skronker wrote:
Try Max Hardcore.

Thanks, but I'm really not a fan of the way he treats the girls in his movies... Having said that, if you know of a specific title with a retarded girl I'll check it out. Do you?

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TonyC
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:40:00 PM
Speaking of imperfect people, this smells like Don Juan. I was wondering when he'd show up again. Tick tock.
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sir wankalot
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 08:44:00 PM
My guess is that you are a troll from xxxporntalk

If you don't go away we will send AC Cream over to discuss the merits of using some 'smelly monkey's' (or Gibbons) in porn.

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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq.
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 10:03:00 PM
Firstly, I'm not trolling. Maybe you should re-read my words and reconsider your own prejudices before you accuse me of that. Is this my punishment for daring to consider the cognitively impaired as sexual beings with minds of their own?

There is no justification to assume by default that because a person is mentally retarded they are incapable of informed consent. That's something for doctors and carers to assess on a case-by-case basis. There are plenty who are deemed capable of living independantly and making decisions for themselves.

I think people who react so negatively are reflecting their own personal discomfort with the idea of retards having sex. A lot of people seem to prefer to view them as asexual beings. It's easier to justify your personal disgust and outrage if you dress it up in the guise of protecting people.

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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 10:25:00 PM
1.) Ick.

2.) If they were capable of informed consent, they wouldn't be mentally retarded. That is, to be mentally retarded is to not have a cognitive process that is up to snuff.

3.) It isn't that you consider the mentally retarded as sexual beings, because even if the mind does not mature the body surely does. It is that you have a specific fetish for a group that has little ability to have appreciation for consequences and lacks in judgement. You want adult bodies with children's minds. This make you seem on the level of a rapist.

4.) Eww.

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I'm sorry -- I meant Ed Powers. Especially lately.
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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq.
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 10:35:00 PM

croy wrote:
2.) If they were capable of informed consent, they wouldn't be mentally retarded.

Fundamentally incorrect. Do your homework.

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Cock Choke Me
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 10:45:00 PM
they have the mind of a child. need I say more? i want to kick you.
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Posted - Jun 13 2005 : 10:46:00 PM
I don't think TRG is trolling. He asked a legitimate question regardless if its precieved to be outrageous to our sensibilities. But to answer it, there are no mentally retarded women currently working in the adult industry - at least not in the US. I'm sure there are some girls in the biz who are slower than others or who have mental and/or emotional problems as a result of drug abuse and such, but to my knowledge none are considered retarded in the traditional sense.

Edited by - Asmodeus on 6/13/2005 10:51:14 PM

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I'm sorry, AA, I'm finding it hard to take seriously.

Maybe he should check out some Rodney Moore titles?

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Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 12:11:00 AM
+ 1 retarded chicks. Booya!

"it's better doing it in the bootie baby... it will make you smarter, sexier and more beautiful, that's why it hurts for a few minutes...."

" the white stuff that comes out of the tip is good for you ...like vitamins... you know what vitamins are don't you? You know those Flintstones things you chew after you have your Cocoa Puffs? Yeaaaaahhhh.. like that... you should actually take your vitamin cream 3 times a day... your hair will be soooo shiny....."

Sorry , had to. Freaking troll - I hope some girls older brother or father catches you and beats you until you are retarded ...the guys in prison like guys like that....pass you around like a hookah pipe.

++++++++ 1,000 for the DVD of that.

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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq.
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Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 12:18:00 AM


Cock Choke Me wrote:
they have the mind of a child. need I say more? i want to kick you.

It's staggering the level of sheer ignorance of the people taking shots at me. I don't know where to begin setting you all straight.

First take a look here for a simple overview of what mental retardation actually is. Note that around 87% of mentally retarded people fit into the "mild" category. Whilst they are slow and may need things carefully explained to them, they can lead mostly normal lives.

Then take a look here and find the Association for Retarded Citizens' position statement on sexuality (word document, sorry). Here's a pertinent quote:

"Every person has the right to exercise choices regarding sexual expression and social relationships. The presence of mental retardation and related developmental disabilities, regardless of severity, does not, in itself, justify loss of rights related to sexuality."

For the mud slingers, you might as well know that I have a retarded girlfriend. She says that I'm the only non-retarded person she knows who doesn't treat her like a child. So I don't give a fuck if ignorant people try to equate me with a rapist. She's a great girl and we have a lot of fun together.

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DenverDon
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Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 12:26:00 AM
Okay, lets settle this down to answering Reginald's question as if it was legit.

If you have no answer or assistance, pass by and carry on.

Otherwise this will be locked.

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Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 12:38:00 AM
If you have things you want to add to topics, pleas do.

If you only want to blast others, take it elsewhere.

This had better get on topic fast or it's locked.

Edited by - DenverDon on 6/14/2005 1:45:25 AM

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lindi
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I would guess that there is no porn with retarded girls because people are squeemish about it and it would make the producers an easy target for anti-porn crusaders.

The public perception is that retarded people have the mind of an 8 year old and are thus unable to truly give consent. A retarded girl in porn would seem like a victim to most of the public, even some of the most 'hardcore' people posting here.

It gives the appearance of impropriety. And the companies wouldn't want to risk legal challenges in a hostile environment.

Historically, judges and parents of retarded children have not always shown respect for the rights of retarded adults to have a sex life or to have marriages and have kids. Even less so, the average guy on the street.

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juha
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Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 02:00:00 AM
This is a really sick question.

Please lock this thread.

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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq.
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lindi wrote:
I would guess that there is no porn with retarded girls because people are squeemish about it and it would make the producers an easy target for anti-porn crusaders.

The public perception is that retarded people have the mind of an 8 year old and are thus unable to truly give consent. A retarded girl in porn would seem like a victim to most of the public, even some of the most 'hardcore' people posting here.

It gives the appearance of impropriety. And the companies wouldn't want to risk legal challenges in a hostile environment.

Historically, judges and parents of retarded children have not always shown respect for the rights of retarded adults to have a sex life or to have marriages and have kids. Even less so, the average guy on the street.


I agree with what you're saying, but it only creates the appearance of impropriety in the minds of people who have narrow-minded misconceptions of cognitive impairment to begin with.

History has shown public perceptions are never changed by pandering to bigots, only by challenging them. So maybe the time has come for retard porn.

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juha
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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq. wrote:


lindi wrote:
I would guess that there is no porn with retarded girls because people are squeemish about it and it would make the producers an easy target for anti-porn crusaders.

The public perception is that retarded people have the mind of an 8 year old and are thus unable to truly give consent. A retarded girl in porn would seem like a victim to most of the public, even some of the most 'hardcore' people posting here.

It gives the appearance of impropriety. And the companies wouldn't want to risk legal challenges in a hostile environment.

Historically, judges and parents of retarded children have not always shown respect for the rights of retarded adults to have a sex life or to have marriages and have kids. Even less so, the average guy on the street.


I agree with what you're saying, but it only creates the appearance of impropriety in the minds of people who have narrow-minded misconceptions of cognitive impairment to begin with.

History has shown public perceptions are never changed by pandering to bigots, only by challenging them. So maybe the time has come for retard porn.


MAN, YOU'RE SICK! YOU NEED TREATMENT!

Two mentally retarded people having sex in their private life is something totally different than exploiting a mentally retarded for the sick viewing pleasure of a T. Reginald.

P.S.: mods, Sorry for the harsh words.

Edited by - juha on 6/14/2005 2:14:24 AM

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Cock Choke Me
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Edited by - cock choke me on 6/14/2005 2:18:38 AM

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Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 02:15:00 AM
My mental apparatus is currently impaired.
Can someone translate this statement?
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Cock Choke Me wrote:
My friend who is a psychologist is visiting me this evening...he would like to express his opinion. PLEASE know I have nothing to do w what he is going to now type.


"I just recently had a conversation w a friend of mine who had a rather unique isolated experience where he in fact had an affair with a retarded girl and claimed that she was very passionate and uninhibited. Furthermore, he had wondered whether other people I knew had similar experiences. I personally did not know anybody that did, however, I did know many instances w people that are involved with slow learners, which falls into the category of 70-90 IQ. My understanding of mental retardation from a clinical point of view is that these people's minds are normal but it is their mental apparatus that is impaired. Therefore, their awareness may in fact be more authentic than that of a person with an average IQ or greater. This hypothesis makes a distinction between the "essence" of the individual and the physiology of their brain structure."


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Cock Choke Me
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Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 02:18:00 AM
sorry, i posted twice, when i tried to fix a typo!

that was cock chokin me that did that, not him. ;)

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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq.
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Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 02:29:00 AM


Cock Choke Me wrote:
My friend who is a psychologist is visiting me this evening...he would like to express his opinion. PLEASE know I have nothing to do w what he is going to now type.

One would hope that hearing his rather more informed opinion might help you to overcome your personal prejudice. He hit the nail on the head here:


"I just recently had a conversation w a friend of who had a rather unique isolated experience where he in fact had an affair with a retarded girl and claimed that she was very passionate and uninhibited."

His friend is another guy in on the secret that retarded girls make fantastic lovers.

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I thought welfare mothers made better lovers.
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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq. wrote:
I realize that this is a slightly unusual fetish, but considering all the niche porn out there (trannies, midgets etc), I find it surprising that I have been unable to find a single scene featuring a mentally retarded girl. Does anyone know of any?

...

There is no justification to assume by default that because a person is mentally retarded they are incapable of informed consent. That's something for doctors and carers to assess on a case-by-case basis. There are plenty who are deemed capable of living independantly and making decisions for themselves.


hardware writes: WHY? WHY? WHY? Because porn producers don't want to have to get doctors notes that their performers are mentally fit to perform. They're afraid half the talent pool would be disqualified.

Seriously, porn is not a reflection of reality. Porn is not about breaking social stereotypes. Porn is about making money by having people PERFORM sexual acts for us pervs. It isn't sufficient that a woman be passionate and sexually open for her to be a porn performer. She has to be able to perform for a bunch of people who's interest is in getting the scene into the can on time and within a ridiculously tiny budget. Oddly enough, this makes them rather risk-averse. And that's not even getting into the can of worms lindi's pointed out to you.



lindi wrote:
I would guess that there is no porn with retarded girls because people are squeemish about it and it would make the producers an easy target for anti-porn crusaders.

The public perception is that retarded people have the mind of an 8 year old and are thus unable to truly give consent. A retarded girl in porn would seem like a victim to most of the public, even some of the most 'hardcore' people posting here.

It gives the appearance of impropriety. And the companies wouldn't want to risk legal challenges in a hostile environment.

Historically, judges and parents of retarded children have not always shown respect for the rights of retarded adults to have a sex life or to have marriages and have kids. Even less so, the average guy on the street.




T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq. wrote:
I agree with what you're saying, but it only creates the appearance of impropriety in the minds of people who have narrow-minded misconceptions of cognitive impairment to begin with.

History has shown public perceptions are never changed by pandering to bigots, only by challenging them. So maybe the time has come for retard porn.



Your response to her legitimate points is that you want to start a crusade. Fine. I suggest you do a search here for posts by a guy named arthur. Crusades aren't porn's stock in trade either. Get over it or do it yourself.

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I know there's a website idea in there somewhere.

Meanwhile, I recommend a consultation with Dr, Chico Wang, who has extensive experience with the mentally challenged.

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juha wrote:

MAN, YOU'RE SICK! YOU NEED TREATMENT!

Two mentally retarded people having sex in their private life is something totally different than exploiting a mentally retarded for the sick viewing pleasure of a T. Reginald.


Are you trying to say we can only have sex with our own "kind"? That because I am mentally unimpaired having sex with my retarded girlfriend is exploitation, when if I had the same condition as her it would be A-OK?

How does that work, other than as a function of your own prejudice? Shall we ban mixed-race relationships next?

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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq.
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Hardware wrote:

Your response to her legitimate points is that you want to start a crusade. Fine. I suggest you do a search here for posts by a guy named arthur. Crusades aren't porn's stock in trade either. Get over it or do it yourself.


Who exactly started crusading here? In case you hadn't noticed, everthing I have said has been in my defense after a barrage of hostile responses to what should have been a perfectly innocuous question that I posed.

I fight my corner against the bigots and that makes me a "crusader"???

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Posted - Jun 14 2005 : 03:35:00 AM
Why would seeing a mentally impaired girl fuck on camera be any hotter than watching one with normal brain functions ? Why does someone who claims to champion the rights of the mentally impaired constantly call this group retards ? Why do people feel they're entitled to get whatever they want , and get shirty when they're refused ?

Some mentally challenged people are capable of leading normal lives , others don't appear to be . Do we really want Ed Powers and Rocco Sifredi deciding who belongs in which category ?

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T. Reginald Gibbons, Esq. wrote:
Who exactly started crusading here?

You did. So, your response leaves me with the choice of you being an idiot or a troll. Which would you prefer I go with? Never mind, I'm going with troll.

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