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Carlos
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Posted - Apr 27 2003 : 04:47:00 PM
Have the original Elegant Angel Buttwoman films starring Tianna as Buttwoman ever been released on DVD?
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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 12:42:00 PM
Evil Angel still owns these original ones, and we haven't released them on DVD yet.

No ideas on when that might happen either.

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Ramsey
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 12:52:00 PM
Buttwoman was not that good IMO compared to Buttman vs. Buttwoman and Buttman's Revenge. I hope to see those titles on DVD soon.
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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 01:09:00 PM
We will be bringing out the "Buttman's Favorite..." comp series on DVD at low-price point ranges over the next year.

That includes Buttman's Favorite Big Butt Babes, which includes Nina Hartley's scenes from Butt Freak 2 and Buttman's Revenge and the Cassidy/Heidi Kat/Sean Michaels scene from Buttman vs. Buttwoman .
This comp will be release in mid-June 2003.

The other comps, which are all about 80-100 minutes each, include (in order which they will be released):
Buttman's Favorite Big Tit Babes
Buttman's Favorite Black Girls
Buttman's Award Winning Orgies
Buttman's Favorite Legs and Ass
Buttman's Favorite Big Butt Babes 2
Buttman's Early Scenes with Rocco
Buttman's Before They Were Stars
Buttman's Favorite Backdoor Babes

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Ramsey
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 01:34:00 PM
I'm not a comp fan and so I hope you guys will release the original Buttman vs. Buttwoman and Buttman's Revenge on DVD. I also hope Buttman's Revenge will include the uncensored scene of Teddi Austin. The version I saw was censored because they could not show SM and hardcore sex together.

Btw, are you guys sure about releasing that Cassidy/Heidi Kat/Sean Michaels again in this new comp? It was originally in Buttman vs. Buttwoman but you guys also used that scene in Buttman's Favorite Big Butt Babes. It's an awesome scene though. The tease scene with Cassidy almost killed me.

Maybe you guys should use longer versions of the scenes in the comps like having stuff in it the original movie didn't have. That would be a reason for me to buy a comp.

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MLyons
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 02:12:00 PM


tricia_devereaux wrote:
...and the Cassidy/Heidi Kat/Sean Michaels scene from Buttman vs. Buttwoman .

Mm.... great scene... great movie... great memories. :) Signature, classic Buttman that I'll never forget.

Mike L.

Edited by - MLyons on 4/28/2003 2:19:58 PM

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Maximum Booty
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 03:41:00 PM
I guess growing up a comic book collector made me a total completist but I know I'd rather own complete DVDs of these Buttman classics rather than comps. Unedited is always a major plus as well. I know you guys are swamped Tricia but I also know there would be a pretty serious market for these discs.
Thanks

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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 04:25:00 PM


Ramsey wrote:
Btw, are you guys sure about releasing that Cassidy/Heidi Kat/Sean Michaels again in this new comp? It was originally in Buttman vs. Buttwoman but you guys also used that scene in Buttman's Favorite Big Butt Babes. It's an awesome scene though.

My original response was:
That includes Buttman's Favorite Big Butt Babes, which includes Nina Hartley's scenes from Butt Freak 2 and Buttman's Revenge and the Cassidy/Heidi Kat/Sean Michaels scene from Buttman vs. Buttwoman.

I guess I didn't make it clear enough, but I was trying to say that we are releasing DVDs of the line of comps that John has already done on VHS.

MY, MY, MY!!!! Aren't you all just a bit demanding!
You say you like some scenes. We give you an opportunity to buy them on DVD (for a MUCH lower price, I might add), and you say, no thanks.

I'm not saying the original Buttwoman titles will never be fully on DVD. But they are not a priority for us. A few reasons: we have bigger priorities with newer, in our opinion, better titles. And although it would still benefit us, calling attention to Buttwoman titles at all also gives attention to the newer, strictly Elegant Angel Buttwoman videos.

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Carlos
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 04:57:00 PM
Thanks for the response, Tricia.

I understand your reasons why bringing out the original Buttwoman titles might not be the top of your priorities. To me, it more of a personal thing to see them on DVD. The Buttwoman films were the first g/g titles I ever saw on video and I guess they really left an impression on me as I still remember them fondly. Silly, really but I guess its kind of an nostalgia thing for me. A reminder of my long gone youth

Well, I won't be holding my breath waiting for them to be released but still, I live in hope, that maybe one day...

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malkira
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 05:19:00 PM
Here's another vote for Buttwoman on DVD. Tianna is fondly remembered by many of us, and we'd love to have those movies out again. I understand that Evil Angel wants to emphasize it's new productions, but I hope the Buttwoman movies will come out at some point.

Hey Tricia, speaking of new EA productions, whatever happened to that male masturbation video you were gonna do?

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ogog
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 05:24:00 PM

I understand your reasons why bringing out the original Buttwoman titles might not be the top of your priorities.

I guess I am far, far too cynical. I thought perhaps Tianna having divorced ol' what's-his-name may have entered into it.

The compilation Totally Tianna from EA should not be overlooked by any Buttwoman fans (and of course Party Doll a Go-Go from VCA), and the Justine: Nothing to Hide (might be #2) which has her - her favorite film, she says.

There's also hope that VCA will eventually release Rinse Dream's Night Dreams 2 & 3. Though they weren't the most erotic of art films, they were pretty to look at.

Edited by - ogog on 4/28/2003 5:25:18 PM

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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 05:38:00 PM


ogog wrote:
I guess I am far, far too cynical. I thought perhaps Tianna having divorced ol' what's-his-name may have entered into it.

The compilation Totally Tianna from EA should not be overlooked by any Buttwoman fans


it wouldn't have anything to do with it, as she was married to Patrick Collins of Elegant Angel, and her original Buttwoman movies are still with Evil Angel.
I would guess that the Totally Tianna comp is Elegant Angel though, as it isn't sold by Evil Angel.

How's that for confusing?

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Ramsey
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Posted - Apr 29 2003 : 03:25:00 AM

MY, MY, MY!!!! Aren't you all just a bit demanding!
You say you like some scenes. We give you an opportunity to buy them on DVD (for a MUCH lower price, I might add), and you say, no thanks

That's because I want the original Buttman version on DVD and I don't care if I have to pay more for it, Buttman is worth every penny :-)
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Maximum Booty
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Posted - Apr 29 2003 : 10:33:00 AM


Ramsey wrote:

MY, MY, MY!!!! Aren't you all just a bit demanding!
You say you like some scenes. We give you an opportunity to buy them on DVD (for a MUCH lower price, I might add), and you say, no thanks

That's because I want the original Buttman version on DVD and I don't care if I have to pay more for it, Buttman is worth every penny :-)


agreed. I understand where you are coming from though Tricia. I would never presume to tell you what to do with EA but maybe it would be worth bringing someone on with the sole responsibility for getting Evil Angel's large back catalogue on to DVD. I just thing there is a goldmine in all those older Buttman, Buttwoman, Joey Silvera & Euro tapes. To avoid confusion and so it looks like you guys aren't flooding the market with too much product maybe a different trade dress would be a good idea. Evil Angel: Classic or something like that. Anyway, just a suggestion from someone looking to spend more money on you guys.

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Bill
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Posted - Apr 29 2003 : 07:15:00 PM


Maximum Booty wrote:
I just thing there is a goldmine in all those older Buttman, Buttwoman, Joey Silvera & Euro tapes. To avoid confusion and so it looks like you guys aren't flooding the market with too much product maybe a different trade dress would be a good idea. Evil Angel: Classic or something like that.

It has nothing to do with looking like they are flooding the market, they would be flooding the market. There are only so many DVD's that people will buy at a time (or per week, month, etc...). People buy DVD's when they are released. If a company puts out too many DVD's at one time, rather than buying multiple DVD's at once, many people will decide which one they prefer and just buy that disc.

If the releases are more spread out, people are more likely to buy more titles in total than if they were all released at once.

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Maximum Booty
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Posted - Apr 29 2003 : 08:16:00 PM


Bill wrote:


Maximum Booty wrote:
I just thing there is a goldmine in all those older Buttman, Buttwoman, Joey Silvera & Euro tapes. To avoid confusion and so it looks like you guys aren't flooding the market with too much product maybe a different trade dress would be a good idea. Evil Angel: Classic or something like that.

It has nothing to do with looking like they are flooding the market, they would be flooding the market. There are only so many DVD's that people will buy at a time (or per week, month, etc...). People buy DVD's when they are released. If a company puts out too many DVD's at one time, rather than buying multiple DVD's at once, many people will decide which one they prefer and just buy that disc.

If the releases are more spread out, people are more likely to buy more titles in total than if they were all released at once.



as DVD grows there is going to be more and more new product out there. On that we can agree but as new stuff demands more & more shelf space fans of the older stuff get pushed to the side. This is compounded by EA growing with two new directors. The difference in trade dress would be a signal that these releases are different & separate from new release material. And I'm not saying EA should flood the market with 8 to 10 classic titles a month. I for one would be very happy knowing there was 1 older Buttman title a month or Fashion Sluts was getting released from the first volume. Or Buttwoman. I can't see how this does anything but keep fans happy. Is it crowding the market a little more? Yeah but no one is forcing a gun to your head making you buy Bill.

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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Apr 30 2003 : 12:32:00 AM
I do appreciate the feedback from all of you.

The summer months tend to be fairly bad sales months for adult manufacturing/distributing companies. So we don't want to release too many HUGE releases in summer months.

As I said in another recent thread, I think Tianna was the best Buttwoman ever. (Of course, if Evil Angel could still make Buttwoman movies, I might be see more incentive to overwork myself more by getting back to the directing track.) I mean, who would be more suited to be Buttwoman than Buttman's wife?

Anyway, we will most likely have 2 - 3 "older" titles go to DVD each month, especially once September comes along. Considering that Nacho Vidal and Belladonna and Jules Jordan and Stanlay Miranda don't have any older releases that aren't on DVD (well, there is Rio Carnival Orgy 1), that means that the 2 - 3 will be rotated between Joey Silvera, John Leslie, Rocco Siffredi, Christoph Clark, and John Stagliano.
It may interest all of you that (not including Randy West titles), approximately 55% of our VHS titles are now on DVD! And that percentage keeps slowly growing!

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Ramsey
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Posted - Apr 30 2003 : 03:29:00 AM

I mean, who would be more suited to be Buttwoman than Buttman's wife?

Well, I couldn't agree more because I think you would be a great director, look forward to your work Tricia :-)


It may interest all of you that (not including Randy West titles), approximately 55% of our VHS titles are now on DVD! And that percentage keeps slowly growing!

You guys are really setting the example, I hope other companies will learn from you and will follow.
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Maximum Booty
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Posted - Apr 30 2003 : 09:23:00 AM
Tricia...you would be an awesome Buttwoman....maybe Mrs. Buttman: Cleaning Up After The Man?...are you guys using The Adventures of Buttman as a kind of test case in regard to sales of your older material at all?
Good news on the percentages. Speaking for myself I'm fasinated watching how someone's style and method evolved and it is my main interest in older John & Joey stuff. That and it's really hot shit as well.




tricia_devereaux wrote:
I do appreciate the feedback from all of you.

The summer months tend to be fairly bad sales months for adult manufacturing/distributing companies. So we don't want to release too many HUGE releases in summer months.

As I said in another recent thread, I think Tianna was the best Buttwoman ever. (Of course, if Evil Angel could still make Buttwoman movies, I might be see more incentive to overwork myself more by getting back to the directing track.) I mean, who would be more suited to be Buttwoman than Buttman's wife?

Anyway, we will most likely have 2 - 3 "older" titles go to DVD each month, especially once September comes along. Considering that Nacho Vidal and Belladonna and Jules Jordan and Stanlay Miranda don't have any older releases that aren't on DVD (well, there is Rio Carnival Orgy 1), that means that the 2 - 3 will be rotated between Joey Silvera, John Leslie, Rocco Siffredi, Christoph Clark, and John Stagliano.
It may interest all of you that (not including Randy West titles), approximately 55% of our VHS titles are now on DVD! And that percentage keeps slowly growing!


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