Overrated pornstars...

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sway25
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Posted - Apr 2 2009 : 04:21:49 PM
Which pornstars do you think are really overrated and do you think are getting far too much attention then they actually deserve?
For now I can only come up with one name:

Jessica Lynn: way too overrated, first of all I dont think she is that goodlooking, not a natural blond, way too much makeup, if you would compare her looks now with her natural look with no makeup and just everything just the way it was created there would a world of a difference. Just a simple girl on cam. Apart from that I dont think she can fuck at all. She has a little bit that Fuck Me Im Beautifull attitude.. People always make polls like Jessica Lynn vs Shawna Lenee.. Hell yeah Shawna Lenee I would say. Thats my opinion.

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lenscap
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The first thing to do is STOP calling them Porn Stars...Stars they aren't...
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BigBobxxx
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Posted - Apr 2 2009 : 04:47:46 PM


sway25 wrote:
Which pornstars do you think are really overrated and do you think are getting far too much attention then they actually deserve?
For now I can only come up with one name:

Jessica Lynn: way too overrated, first of all I dont think she is that goodlooking, not a natural blond, way too much makeup, if you would compare her looks now with her natural look with no makeup and just everything just the way it was created there would a world of a difference. Just a simple girl on cam. Apart from that I dont think she can fuck at all. She has a little bit that Fuck Me Im Beautifull attitude..


Personally, I find Jessica Lynn to be an attractive girl.

Granted, she doesn't have the skills and polish of a "Jenna Haze" caliber star, but she is very enjoyable to watch. FYI, I loved her scene with Mark Ashley in Sporty Girls #1.

Porn definitely has a place for girls like Jessica Lynn

Now, is she over-rated?
Who knows.
Apparently, lots of posters here on ADT seem to like her.
A lot.

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Hardware
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Posted - Apr 2 2009 : 05:22:42 PM
Which porn stars do it for you is so subjective, and what we look for in a sex scene is so idiosyncratic, that the question of which ones are overrated is really pointless.

I like who I like and whether anybody agrees with me is only relevant to the extent that it helps her get more work.

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Cerebral Jedi
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Hmmmm? I can't see this staying open long. Especially if forum participants are being na...
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jettyman
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Posted - Apr 3 2009 : 08:53:49 AM
lenscap wrote:

STOP calling them Porn Stars...Stars they aren't...

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They are stars in porn, There is a list of actors staring in the movie on the the box cover. The biggest star gets a photo on the box front. The better you are at your job the more work you get, more box fronts = more money = bigger star. Stars may be overrated if they sign a contract with a studio and stop doing the type of sex they were famous for or have boob jobs and botox to make the less appealing to some followers. This means they get press because of there past exploit's, therefore overrated...J.

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Iramaj1
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Posted - Apr 3 2009 : 03:47:33 PM
Audrey Bitoni
Jesse Jane

Jessica Lynn is a gorgeous girl but the majority of her scenes are like watching paint dry. If she got a little freakier she'd be straight.

Edited by - iramaj1 on 4/3/2009 3:49:28 PM

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xayhoundb
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Posted - Apr 3 2009 : 11:42:30 PM
I don't think Jessica Lynn is overrated, and she can ride like a champ.

It's really hard to say who's overrated in porn, because there is always a good point on why they aren't.

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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 09:44:06 AM
Absolutely no way is Jessica Lynn overrated, some stated Sporty Girls and I will add Big Tits at Work 6 her early stuff was nothing special, but she has improved a ton in recent works.

As for being overrated, I've only thought of one person being overrated.....but again overrated is all perception and opinion of each and every individual person

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lenscap
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 11:01:18 AM
Jettyman...in my view, a Star is a name or rather a performer that most everyone that is a collector or follower of porno knows...simply being in the credits of a movie does not make someone a 'star'...
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jettyman
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 11:39:37 AM

lenscap, fair point. maybe i'm taking the word pornstar generically and calling all performers pornstars. There are lots of websites that use that terminology by labeling all performers pornstars, maybe some stars shine brighter than others. I would think most performers would like to think themselves as pornstars, not someone padding out the movie in scene 3. So for arguments sake, there are a few pornstars (big letters + picture)and lots of porn performers (small letters or no credit)in the porn business....J.
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 12:30:43 PM
Tera Patrick and Nina Mercedez - two of the most boring performers in the biz.
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Ordell
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 02:16:36 PM
I never quite got Jenna's appeal. To each his own.

BTW, I can see a thread like this getting out of hand real fast as fans rush to defend their favorites.

Edited by - ordell on 4/4/2009 2:17:53 PM

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BigBobxxx
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 02:52:05 PM


Ordell wrote:
BTW, I can see a thread like this getting out of hand real fast as fans rush to defend their favorites.

As opposed to those who want to slam particular girls?

Since this is all very personal opinion anyway (I'd hate to think posters have an "agenda" when they post these kind of statements), all opinions are equally valid -- pro and con.

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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 02:55:55 PM


Cerebral Jedi wrote:
Hmmmm? I can't see this staying open long. Especially if forum participants are being na...

What is "na..."?
Way too cerebral for me to comprehend

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Bobcat
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 04:47:46 PM
Tera Patrick!

The scenes I've seen of hers I found boring. she's a nice girl and I certainly wouldn't say no, but I don't get why she is such a mega star of the porn world!

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BigBobxxx
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 05:09:44 PM
I think Tera Patrick is a "mega-star" of the mainstream world looking at the porn world.

She's certainly an attractive woman. And, as far as that goes, the mainstream media loves to run spots with her, Jesse Jane, etc. during sweeps weeks.

I'm sure these girls move a lot of product with casual porn consumers.

As for myself, I would love to see Tera performing with attractive studs. But, as it is, performing with her tattooed significant other, I have no interest whatsoever.

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Jaktarn
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 05:26:44 PM
Jenna Jameson anyone?
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jettyman
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 05:40:45 PM

jettyman Wrote:

they get press because of their past exploit's, therefore overrated.

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I posted the above comment earlier in the thread. Two stars were mentioned in the latter posts.

Jenna Jameson and Tera Patrick

Was it because they didn't move with the times and lived off past reputations and performances?

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sway25
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 05:58:15 PM
Jenna Jameson also overrated... maybe she was the best a couple of decennia ago because there were like 5 pornstars or so ;) but if you compare her to the generation of nowadays she wont be in the top 50.
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Frogman
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Have to agree on Jenna, she can't compete against today's stars.
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xayhoundb
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 07:33:37 PM


sway25 wrote:
Jenna Jameson also overrated... maybe she was the best a couple of decennia ago because there were like 5 pornstars or so ;) but if you compare her to the generation of nowadays she wont be in the top 50.

exactly. but... you can't rate her, the biz is way different.. why do u see the performers back then.. returning, and having to do a lot more stuff they would had never done back then.

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Jaktarn
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Posted - Apr 4 2009 : 08:24:05 PM
I dont get why so many keep bashing on Jessica Lynn in this thread, she might not be a true superstar and does som uneven scenes but she isint that bad as som people in here thinks.
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Yeah, but Tera and Jenna transcended the genre and crossed over fully to become mainstream celebrities. They were gorgeous, savvy, had good agents and took the opportunities given to them, becoming very rich in the process.

Also it's hard to deny the initial impact of seeing girls like that in a porno setting back in the day - the first time I laid eyes on Tera Patrick I was literally awestruck, and that was without any hype or me knowing who she was at the time.

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Christopher256
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lenscap wrote:
The first thing to do is STOP calling them Porn Stars...Stars they aren't...

Porn star is the generally accepted term for a woman who does porn. Do you have a better term? Porn star is certainly better than Adult Film Star, or Adult Film Actress. Those are pretentious industry manufactured terms.

And Jenna is so overrated, though I still can't denie her impact on the industry.

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Posted - Apr 5 2009 : 02:42:01 AM
"Deserve" is a hard word to define here because you're asking an unknown number of people to speak as though their personal opinions rule the world. I think a lot of it is just luck. I've seen girls I thought were way hot come and go and barely get any notice.
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BigBobxxx wrote:
I think Tera Patrick is a "mega-star" of the mainstream world looking at the porn world.

I'm sure these girls move a lot of product with casual porn consumers.


EXACTLY.

Same reason many shitty pop bands sell so much.

Music aficionados would never assault their eardrums with the rancid beats of Britney's latest...same as I would rather shoot myself in the head then sit through Patrick's latest porn snoozefest.

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All Vivid girls, Jenna, Teagan.
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Jenna jameson (she does NOTHING to me)
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Posted - Apr 5 2009 : 02:47:49 PM

jettyman wrote:
Tera Patrick
Was it because they didn't move with the times and lived off past reputations and performances?

I think she's drop-dead beautiful, but she's a block of ice on screen. The scenes I've seen her in all look like a show she's done 100 times and is bored to death.

It would be interesting to see her in a BTS where she's filmed doing something she obviously enjoys.

It's not true of everyone, but I think a lot of successful actresses convey a "I'd be doing this whether I'm being paid or not" attitude. I'm not a big Marilyn Chambers fan, but in every scene I've seen her in, she looks like she's into it 100%.

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jayo wrote:

jettyman wrote:
Tera Patrick
Was it because they didn't move with the times and lived off past reputations and performances?

I think she's drop-dead beautiful, but she's a block of ice on screen. The scenes I've seen her in all look like a show she's done 100 times and is bored to death.

Afraid you're right. So beautiful and so damn cold. Reminds me of Chaisey Lane.

The one time Tera seemed to wake up was in Wild Honey 2. Some frizzy-haired dude really pounded on her, hard. I think that was simply a case of there was simply no way Tera could lie there with her eyes closed and act disinterested.

She seemed to like Nacho drilling her in 'Gallery of Sin,' too.

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wraithlead
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Posted - Apr 5 2009 : 04:28:52 PM
I don't think you can claim 'overrated' as meaning 'not as good as they once were.' I mean, to each his own i guess, but compare it to sports or something. Some people would call patrick ewing overrated, because he was never as good as he was hyped to be. But if you look at michael jordan when he played in washington, you can't say he was overrated. Overrated to me has more to do with a body of work.

I don't think tera patrick is overrated. She's not living on her reputation to me, because she's not trying to be the latest sex kitten, or the wildest, nastiest woman in the biz. She seems to be pretty much what she says she is, a gorgeous woman, who's responsible for some of the mainstream acceptance of porn, and now tries to do bigger budget, more artsy titles. But if you look at her career in context, it's pretty much what people say it was.

Since porn doesn't really have a bunch of giant firms doing reviews, like mainstream movies have every newspaper, Entertainment Tonight, et al, most of the reviews i see are of the sort 'here is what i liked'. that makes it hard to be overrated.

To me it's all about people who aren't what they try to act like, i.e. some of the 'black giant cock' guys who can't stay hard through a whole scene, or girls in a gangbang movie that don't do DP, or girls in ass/anal movies who don't do anal...

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Posted - Apr 5 2009 : 04:33:22 PM
sorry, just wanted to add...

and while we can't compare the the way hardcore is now, to the way most hardcore was in the 90's, i don't think it's a bad thing. i mean..when i first started watching, i didn't like any of the stuff i demand from a scene now. starting with skinemax, moving to other things, and getting more into the wild side is normal, but to just jump into the wild stuff would probably be too much for someone just coming from late-night cable fare...

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Posted - Apr 5 2009 : 11:33:37 PM


Jaktarn wrote:
Jenna Jameson anyone?

amen! Most Vivid girls as well.

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Posted - Apr 6 2009 : 02:38:45 AM
Wow, this is still open? I'm surprised. I think it's a trap. Start naming stars who post here and one is in a world of hurt...IMO.
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Posted - Apr 6 2009 : 02:43:27 AM


Bobcat wrote:
Tera Patrick!

The scenes I've seen of hers I found boring. she's a nice girl and I certainly wouldn't say no, but I don't get why she is such a mega star of the porn world!


Bobcat--

She did one or two scenes with T.T. Boy in which she goes out of her mind with lust as T.T. Boy does the T.T. Boy thing. IIRC, she appears to get phenomenally excited when T.T. expands his character in the scene to say "If you ever tell anyone about this, I'm going to kill you." (Actually, that was the second thing he said to get her fired up.)

Edited by - Dr_Fell on 4/6/2009 2:53:23 AM

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Schmse wrote:
Jenna jameson (she does NOTHING to me)


Totally agree...IMO she is the most overrated girl ever and she is always more respected than she deserves.

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Posted - Apr 6 2009 : 01:53:51 PM
Jenna Jameson, Gina Lynn, Lacey Duvalle, Priya to name a few.


Jenna Jameson, just overrated nuff said. There are so many better looking woman than her.

Gina lynn, should have not won for AVN Award for Best Gonzo Release for Gina Lynn's Darkside. She does everything but anal.

Priya(indian chick) needs to do anal.

Lacey Duvalle, she can suck a dick like a hoover, but she needs to anal before she gets to fuckin fat.


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Posted - Apr 7 2009 : 12:16:50 PM
I like Teagan but her best stuff is with Evil Angel.
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sirmartinfrobisher
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Posted - Apr 8 2009 : 05:29:45 AM
Agree about Jenna and also add her Direction skills, she has too little dialogue and way too much music. The music sends me to sleep.
I add Sophia Rossi and Krystal Steal
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Posted - Apr 22 2009 : 02:59:54 AM


Jaktarn wrote:
Jenna Jameson anyone?

I don't think she's overrated. I think she's brilliant. I mean c'mon, I cannot think of any other porn star that has pushed herself into MAINSTREAM culture. There's posters of her next to britney spears for christ's sake. I was in our friendly neighborhood video store the other day, and there it was: Star trek season 6, Sopranos Season 4, and "Jenna Jamison - 3pack". I don't see any other porn stars about to be sold at wal-mart. She was the voice of the porn star in one of the best selling video games of all time: Grand Theft Auto (vice city). She thinks outside the box, she has redesigned porn star marketing. That's why I respect her, she's not just a pretty piece of ass on camera, she's a businesswoman.
That's impressive. She is UNDERRATED as she has perhaps the best head screwed on of ANY porn star.

Keep in mind, I don't know if I've EVER seen her in a movie, I think she's in that G rated stuff by my standards... But if you see her drinking a bucket of cum, let me know and I'll pay top dollar. I'm just saying, she's marketed herself better than the rest of them combined (yes, better than TENS of THOUSANDS of other porn stars combined) and that's FREAKING AMAZING.

Her taste in men however is beyond ridiculous. Tito Ortiz????? Are you serious???? Come on, the guy is a squeaky little punk who talks like alfalfa from the Little Rascals and his hair grows halfway down his forehead. He's a mix between a neanderthal and a chihuahua. And I know Tito well, I followed his career since what was it? UFC 16 maybe? Back when he was an alternate, ok, he was hungry and good. But his title was bogus, he fought a bunch of pushovers. His only real fight was against Ken Shamrock and it may have been rigged, who knows. Either way, all I can say about Tito being with Jenna is: I guess the sun shines on a dog's ass now and then.

edit-had to add bold to my summation of tito ortiz.

Edited by - seedfeeder on 4/22/2009 3:07:01 AM

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Posted - Apr 22 2009 : 03:16:44 AM
how a chihuahua looks like tito ortiz.


Edited by - seedfeeder on 4/22/2009 3:25:43 AM

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Tito was drunk when he banged her. At least that's his excuse.

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Stormy Daniels,Jenna Jamerson, Tera Patrick, Teagan, Guage
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Posted - Apr 23 2009 : 10:28:07 PM
I can't really agree with others opinions here that Jenna Jameson is overrated. She is such a mainstream name that that alone makes her a legend and deserving of her status. I feel that she is one of the first performers to help bring the adult industry into the mainstream. For that I cannot think she is overrated. In fact, her name recognition is a good thing for the industry. I'm also a huge Stormy Daniels fan and feel she does it all and does it all well. She is a top notch director, writer and performer, so I can't add her name to the overrated list either. In fact, Ms. Daniels is so much more than just a pornstar as I have just stated, as is Ms. Jameson. Besides, the word pornstar is way overused these days anyway. It seems that almost anyone who makes an adult film calls themselves a pornstar no matter the nature of their performance. To me a pornstar is a STAR who happens to make porn films. One first has to be a star to be a pornstar; anything else is just a porn actor or actress, I'd think. If I had to choose an overrated pornstar it would be Tera Patrick. I think Ms. Patrick is very beautiful and I love her work but I think she is far more popular than she actually should be considering the work I've seen of her. Of course, this is my opinion and not meant to disrespect anyone's work or anyone else's opinion!

Edited by - chest rockwell on 4/23/2009 10:37:15 PM

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Jaktarn wrote:
I dont get why so many keep bashing on Jessica Lynn in this thread, she might not be a true superstar and does som uneven scenes but she isint that bad as som people in here thinks.

I agree, I just watched a scene of hers from My Wife's Hot Friend, she was pretty damn good in that. She has improved for sure.

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Posted - Jul 26 2009 : 09:27:24 AM


Dr_Fell wrote:

She did one or two scenes with T.T. Boy in which she goes out of her mind with lust as T.T. Boy does the T.T. Boy thing. IIRC, she appears to get phenomenally excited when T.T. expands his character in the scene to say "If you ever tell anyone about this, I'm going to kill you." (Actually, that was the second thing he said to get her fired up.)


Great point. Here's the thing that most people miss. Tera Patrick can be a great performer and when she first entered porn her performances were stronger. However when you work for VIVID they have a certain type of porn they do and they shy away from the more agressive/intense stuff. For example Tera has said she likes to be choked during sex but you'll never see that in her newer/current stuff because it not what that audience wants to see (or at least what she wants to give them).

When you look at performers that did gonzo and then become a contract girl for a company like VIVID you see a big change in their performances. Before she went to VIVID I was a big Lanny Barbie fan. She was wild/intense and did it all. Now as a VIVID girl her performances bore me.

The director plays a big part too. I see Jesse Jane's name pop up. I'm a big fan of Jesse's look but that slo-mo artsy-fartsy stuff she did nothing for me. But then I was her in stuff for DIGITAL PLAYGROUND that was shot straight on with natural sound at normal speed and was surprised to see Jesse is actually
a fairly intense performer. Big difference from the slo-mo elevator music stuff Celeste does/did.

Yeah, there are some performers that are kinda dull to watch but in the case of some or most of the contract girls that dull performance is what the company/director wants from them.

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Posted - Jul 26 2009 : 09:57:38 AM


lenscap wrote:
Jettyman...in my view, a Star is a name or rather a performer that most everyone that is a collector or follower of porno knows...simply being in the credits of a movie does not make someone a 'star'...

I started to disagree with youi here, thinking in terms of the way the term "star" is used by the public. But as the below dictionary.com definition shows, the public is not always accuracy with its words usage:

The following are the definitions of "star" as they could be applied to movies:


10. a person who is celebrated or distinguished in some art, profession, or other field.
11. a prominent actor, singer, or the like, esp. one who plays the leading role in a performance.

However that does not mean it has to be only the one with top billing in a flick. I think that covers everyone that has a important part in the movie (and that is not always defined by the amount of time the actor is on the screen).

where porn is concerned, I think that is everyone that is fucking important enough to be listed. Generally if you are listed as one of the actors or actresses, you are going to have enough fuck-time to be call one of the stars of the movie. It is, however, truly subjective.

Back to the original question:

Sasha Grey is a bit overrated in porn. And her mainstream movie "The Girlfriend Experience" (with its generally mixed reviews) is also overrated.

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Posted - Jul 26 2009 : 11:29:00 AM
re: Sasha Grey

Is over saturated a better way to describe her? For me, she was great out of the gate. Even liked it when she was sporting 70s muff. Now we take it all for granted: rough anal, atm, etc. But for me, I won't buy a movie b/c of her performance, but if I'm on the fence on a title and see she's in it, that usually tips it for me to pick up. Like a Jenna Haze anal. Yea we're up to about a 100+ scenes of it, but she still looks great doing it.

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Hardware wrote:
Which porn stars do it for you is so subjective, and what we look for in a sex scene is so idiosyncratic, that the question of which ones are overrated is really pointless.

I like who I like and whether anybody agrees with me is only relevant to the extent that it helps her get more work.


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All I know is that Shawna Lenee is amazing.
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