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Pierre Woodman Castings (a fraud?)

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xxaru
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Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 02:56:40 PM
Seeing as I was a bit bored, I decided to listen to the podcast interview of Pierre Woodman. Anyways, he goes on to talk about how his castings series for Private is so real and authentic, etc, etc. But is it just me or does everyone else who's seen this think his casting series is a total fraud? I don't know how he gets off trying to pass it off as real. Why can't people just be honest about their work?
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dvdnotvhs
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Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 05:01:46 PM
I love Pierre's casting series, some of the bit porngraphy ever made in my opinion.

I dont belive it's a fraud, he offers an amazing glimpse into the minds of these gorgeous ladies.

I espiecially like the interviews (and sex) in:

Castings 40 (Alicia)
Castings 37 (Julia)
Castings 61/Justler casting couch 11 (Katalyn)

It's like bambi in the car headlights

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DarkPlaces
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Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 06:05:33 PM


xxaru wrote:
Seeing as I was a bit bored, I decided to listen to the podcast interview of Pierre Woodman. Anyways, he goes on to talk about how his castings series for Private is so real and authentic, etc, etc. But is it just me or does everyone else who's seen this think his casting series is a total fraud? I don't know how he gets off trying to pass it off as real. Why can't people just be honest about their work?

It's like all those girls on Ed Powers who say they're for the curiosity or adventure, always leaving out they're strippers.

If you believe these girls showed up not knowing that sex was part of the agenda, then I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you. They just happened to show up clean shaven, clean colons and ready to engage in unsafe sex with a man they just met? That Woodman himself is regularly exposing himself to disease with girls off the street?

I do believe they are first timers, which is exciting to watch (hence the playing up of the illusion), but that's about it. The only thing they probably didn't know about the situation was that he was going to hammer their asses like they stole something. I don't see that as getting many girls in.

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Far_Q_holmes
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Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 09:23:51 PM
To be honest i never like Pierre's stuff, too much anal and i think if you want to make a full length movie move to hollywood, i prefer porn that is straight to the poin i.e Evil empire, or some of digital playground's stuff.

If i was to direct i would be in the move so i could show what i wanted.

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Arditti
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Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 09:59:56 PM
I always had some difficulty to believe that girls could easily fall for him. Nevertheless, some interviews are quite interesting and I love to see the girl surrender to him.

The best ones as far as I'm concerned :

Casting # 35 with Rebecca, a Russian. She's gorgeous and shy. She did a few more scenes with Woodman.

Casting # 36 with another Russian girl, Angel... gorgeous tits and she does anything. From the beginning you know she'll fall but I never expected her to get involved so much. She also did other scenes with Woodman, especially a DP, but sex was quite predictable.

Casting # 40 with Alicia. She's so beautiful too. Woodman discovers a little too late that she's masochist. While Woodman and her have sex, she's scratching her skin while she enjoys every moment of it. And he makes her say repeat where is his « bitte ». « Dans mon cul, oui, dans mon cul », she says.

Do any of you have their favourite? Which one? Why?

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a4e2007
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 08:12:56 PM
You know what...it does not really matter if the girls really knew what they were getting into or not. Staged or not. It's good. In any case, they certainly did not expect an anal pounding. Seeing that anal sex is not 'regular-normal sex' (ok some may not agree!), the hottest scenes are the ones involving 'girl next door type beauties' getting a rough anal pounding. Ok , you may say that all of them do get one, but the ones where Woodman is 'out of control,rough and really raw' are the best. In my opinion those would be:

Rebecca in Casting 35
Victoria in Castings 21
Katalyn in Castings 61
Lilou in Castings 30 (this is really hot especially the last few instances)
Yasmine in Castings 51 (although she looks too much like a model)
Alicia in Castings 40

And a couple of disappointments...
Elisabeth in Castings 55
Angel Dark in Castings 48
Man he went easy on them, by Woodman standards of course . They could have been good scenes.

Angel in Casting 36 was good too, but she already looked like a porn star


He is still the King of anal in my book.
Anal is too common now, a return to a more casting type thing in my book is really hot. I wish that he would continue or at least train a new guy!
does anyone out there know of any upcoming releases? or at least a close second best series?

I personally would love to see Woodman's present partner..Sophie Paris get an anal pounding.
by the way, did not care much for the interview...but I like Woodman.

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xxaru
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 11:52:07 PM
I do think the casting series is good for what it is; it’s just not what Pierre claims it to be. When you see episodes that are exact carbon copies of one another, it’s obvious that it’s staged.



DarkPlaces wrote:

I do believe they are first timers, which is exciting to watch (hence the playing up of the illusion), but that's about it.



Couldn’t have said it better myself.
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sir wankalot
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Posted - Apr 12 2008 : 08:46:43 AM
What makes it seemingly genuine is that he always includes one girl 'who got away'. A girl who turns up for casting but doesn't want to go any further.

Also, you'll often see a girl who is unsure on the first meeting.....but comes back for a second casting and seems to have been 'persuaded'.

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Gabriel Nine
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Posted - Apr 13 2008 : 03:24:04 PM
I believe the phrase "total fraud" was used originally. So that means the whole thing was a complete sham? What really makes you think it's anything less than it puports to be? Because you don't think it all adds up?

Let's remember 90% of the scenes in this series are merely interviews and the rest is a selective representation of what actually transpired. None of the ugly business of money or agents or suitcase pimps or enemas or sexually transmitted diseases is ever mentioned - why not feel suspicious of that? The fact is that shit happens, the viewers are not party to it, and quite frankly will not be party to it, and that leaves a gap in our knowledge which we can choose to plug in whatever way suits us

This is still porn after all, where the girls are always wet and willing, the guys are always hot and hard, so make your judgements on "fraud" in that context, not in the context of whatever kind of "realism" you think should apply. You might see something that is truthful, but don't expect to see the truth. You know, maybe Price Philip really did order MI6 to do it in that tunnel.

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Arditti
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Posted - Apr 14 2008 : 12:52:27 AM
Good point, a4e2007. I tottaly agree with you.
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azuree
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Posted - Nov 1 2009 : 03:10:43 PM
I doubt these castings are faked, otherwise these girls should be in the "hollywood" business and not in "porn"... Check the faces of the girls :)

There are a lot more new casting on his new website "woodmancastingx", it seems he is adding +1000 new interviews, sadly not all "sex"...

If you are still having doubts, ask him more details directly on his website forum, he seems to be there daily and to answer all questions.


Edited by - azuree on 11/1/2009 3:21:49 PM

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Nov 1 2009 : 03:26:26 PM
As in all things, you're best off just enjoying porn for what it is. Entertainment. Assume everything you see is staged. If you want to believe it's real, go ahead. Either way, what do you lose if you're wrong?
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mharris127
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Posted - Nov 1 2009 : 04:43:51 PM


DarkPlaces wrote:


xxaru wrote:
Seeing as I was a bit bored, I decided to listen to the podcast interview of Pierre Woodman. Anyways, he goes on to talk about how his castings series for Private is so real and authentic, etc, etc. But is it just me or does everyone else who's seen this think his casting series is a total fraud? I don't know how he gets off trying to pass it off as real. Why can't people just be honest about their work?

It's like all those girls on Ed Powers who say they're for the curiosity or adventure, always leaving out they're strippers.

If you believe these girls showed up not knowing that sex was part of the agenda, then I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you. They just happened to show up clean shaven, clean colons and ready to engage in unsafe sex with a man they just met? That Woodman himself is regularly exposing himself to disease with girls off the street?

I do believe they are first timers, which is exciting to watch (hence the playing up of the illusion), but that's about it. The only thing they probably didn't know about the situation was that he was going to hammer their asses like they stole something. I don't see that as getting many girls in.


Don't forget that they have to get STD tested at AIM (or maybe Talent Testing) before filming. I think many would say why get tested if they truly don't know they are going to have sex on film.

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ADT44
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Posted - Nov 1 2009 : 05:41:39 PM
Some of the cutest girls I've seen. I especially like those eastern european gurls with black hair and grey/green/blueysch eyes.
think of "Victoria" and of the green eyed girl wearing that baseball cap called "monica"

Anyone know more scenes/movies of them? What are their alternative names?

http://www.tubekitty.com/search/?q=Cast&kwid=12079

Anetta key's (tanned chick) first movie ever made is also from his castings series.

2 things that bothered me:
1) why didn't pierre do the identical twinsisters together? (or does it exist?) (and what are their alternative names, anyway? It's not inga and inez, is it?;

did they do more scenes/movies together?)

2)Why don't he ever let the camera film his ass and vaginal and mouth cumshots when he cums like some nutjob...

I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY FAKE PART OF HIS MOVIES: HE DOES NOTTTTTTT COME IN THOSE GIRLS AND THEY DON'T SWALLOW AT ALL!!!!!!!!!
(where's the high def stuff?)


Edited by - adt44 on 11/1/2009 5:44:39 PM

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deputyduffy
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Posted - Nov 1 2009 : 06:55:57 PM
Seriously....

Isn't it a known fact that this guy is BS.........

Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!! people still believe in the Easter Bunny.

This guy preys on women from underprivileged countries...and he does what he does....they all need a few bucks.....some even go on to work in the profession. But the bottom line is it's all staged...no one gets fucked up the ass on a whim.

C'MON!!!!

Edited by - deputyduffy on 11/1/2009 7:56:01 PM

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just_me
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Posted - Nov 1 2009 : 07:31:16 PM
Woodman has no problem with backdating his castings, to make it appear he was first to work with the girls in their careers I don't really check out his works, but know for sure the dates of Angelica Heart and Ariel/Piper Fawn are nowhere near the true dates.

Woodman makes his money off his image and his stories. And of course he has full control over what his image is and what his stories are. He's just another guy in porn. The way I approach his works - if it is released on video, then it happened and was planned out in advance of the taping. If it is not released on video, then what he says is just a story to build up his image.

I don't know, there are a lot of stories he tells where you just have to question yourself "that doesn't make any sense"...

Edited by - just_me on 11/1/2009 7:44:59 PM

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mharris127
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Posted - Nov 1 2009 : 07:56:17 PM
I would actually be interested in Dr. Mitch's take on this one. If any of these were filmed in the US and sex was truly "surprised" on them, this would make Woodman the violator here -- he would likely be working with chicks without test information on them, which is dangerous for him as well . I hope at least he shows them a recent AIM test (I guess I half-ass take back my prior comment about an AIM test on that talent -- if he is fucking them himself, I guess he can waive a test -- but is he being tested and honest about said test himself, that is the question here)? I hope so.
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azuree
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Posted - Nov 2 2009 : 05:18:03 AM
@deputyduffy : I agree, money is probably involved many times, and I dont think woodman ever denied it... But you cant say "its staged" as most of the girls didnt come to see him to get f*ck in the ass... most of them came to be soft models... What happen between the interview & sex part is for sure : $, travel, psychology...

You cant compare it to a full fake "porn casting" where the girl is a "famous" pornstar, her agent is called, she is paid to come, have hardcore sex on a set, and left... this is really *S-T-A-G-E-D* :)

Woodman is a famous movie director since ages, castings are part of his job, why "fake" it ? Check his new interviews on his web "woodmancastingx", I doubt you can fake the face of the girls during the interviews... ;)

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Edited by - azuree on 11/2/2009 5:48:10 AM

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LubeNLuv
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Posted - Nov 2 2009 : 09:00:50 AM
"Manipulation: I manipulated you into thinking it was real" - Hannah West
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azuree
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Posted - Nov 2 2009 : 11:57:25 AM
a4e2007 wrote : "You know what...it does not really matter if the girls really knew what they were getting into or not. Staged or not. It's good."

I agree with your good statement, at the end its very good porn thanks to the french touch of P. Woodman...

No wonders why all his past casting DVDs and the new ones online at "woodmandcastingx" are bestsellers/hits... :)

Edited by - azuree on 11/2/2009 11:59:41 AM

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shannow27a
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Posted - Nov 20 2009 : 04:31:32 AM
To clarify few issues regarding Pierre Woodman’s initiation series. Yes some of them are staged but majority are real. It’s a long and arduous process as Woodman once admitted.

[1] First he will rendezvous constantly with contacts he have at the modeling agencies around Europe for any new talents. If he sees what he likes – she is new, fresh, and eye-catching, the Frenchman swoops in for the kill. Like the ExploitedCollegeGirls guy, Pierre is loaded and convinces most girls to do things they won’t do for others. He pays them in equivalent to three or four HC films. He also on rare occasion invites girls for casting, the ones that catches his fancy in streets, café and malls of Budapest or Prague or any other Eastern cities. Last but not the least is the ads he used to insert in Private vids in early and mid-90. The one where he shows sunny beaches, travelling in fast cars and living like there’s no tomorrow. Any girl burrowing thru both brother’s or dad’s secret stash and sees the ad will be curious. It’s also provided a way out – mainly girls of impoverished Eastern countries – of poverty and repressed upbringing.

[2] Days before the actual interview, he makes sure the women are tested for any STD’s or other related diseases. That way he can make them exclusive to him first. Often the interview date and actual initiation is different. There is usually a gap of two or even several months before the girls agree to be ass-fucked. This is due to the girls checking around to see if anyone else offering better financial package than Woodman. Remember these girls are no way are interested in making hardcore porn their first option. Most of them prefers soft-core or lez aspect of it. However, big money is in where the cock is involved and Woodman is king when writing big fat checks.

[3] Many skeptics tend to ignore one thing that Woodman possess that many of his fellow ilks don’t. And I’m not talking about his rather modestly endowed dick! His now legendary charm. If you ask around any of the girls he fucked, most of them gushes about his friendliness and the professional manner he does the business and in Euro Porn Expos, the babes can be seen chatting with him without any qualms at all. Where many of the women will be outraged at his temerity in capturing them in their most vulnerable moment using hidden camera, Woodman gets their consent thru sweet-talk and of course, with few more financial perks.

[4] And there is a hidden camera. He uses them during interview in knowledge of the girls. When the girls consent to the initiation process, he promises them the cam will not recording the act. As always in pretext of sending the girl to the bathroom to clean-up, he hides a second one nearby the bed. He then shows the girl that he putting away the original camera or giving to his translator. That’s how he manages to elicit a truly raw and arousing passion from the girls because they can be themselves without need to play to the cam. Ever notice the difference when the same girl has a passion of a dead horse when it comes to professional setting.

[5] never underestimate the power of an average sized cock. Imagine if Pierre’s dick is about Rocco’s girth and length. He would have never ass-fucked nearly 80% of the girls. For all the cash carrot he dangles in front of the girls, they would never say yes to Rocco-sized dick in their poop-hole. Woodman may look brutal in jamming their ass in multiple positions yet he will take 15 to max 45 mins. to lube the asshole which he rarely shows unedited. The size of his cock makes them comfortable but for all that there will be always a mixture of pain and pleasure when it comes to anal sex for women in any parts of the world. The cock size is the reason some of the girls says yes to Woodman offer of contract in appearing with other guys. These naïve girls think Woodman’s boys pack about the same size. If you check out the Anal Intensive or Superfuckers series, half of the girls quit after one or two performances. Couple of six-and-a-half inches in both holes at the same time is something a girl from countryside doesn’t look forward to regularly. A quarter of them go back home, few becomes escort and others turns to SC and lez. That’s why Woodman has such a poor turnover in discovering future porn stars from huge girls he have casted. Another reason is the fact these girls expect similar payment from other producers for any scene involving anal and certainly nobody else can match Woodman’s running rate.


Edited by - shannow27a on 11/20/2009 4:36:15 AM

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LubeNLuv
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Posted - Nov 20 2009 : 09:29:48 AM


shannow27a wrote:
To clarify few issues regarding Pierre Woodman’s initiation series. Yes some of them are staged but majority are real. It’s a long and arduous process as Woodman once admitted.


[2] Days before the actual interview, he makes sure the women are tested for any STD’s or other related diseases. That way he can make them exclusive to him first. Often the interview date and actual initiation is different. There is usually a gap of two or even several months before the girls agree to be ass-fucked. This is due to the girls checking around to see if anyone else offering better financial package than Woodman. Remember these girls are no way are interested in making hardcore porn their first option. Most of them prefers soft-core or lez aspect of it. However, big money is in where the cock is involved and Woodman is king when writing big fat checks.

By your second quote, you just contradicted your first. They are all, by definition, staged. None are real. They LOOK real. I'll give him that and I enjoy some of his so-called hidden camera tricks. But if the girls show up expecting to be paid to get ass-fucked, they are 100% staged.

Why does this matter anyways? It doesn't. It is good porn. Porn is all staged. Enjoy it for what it is....people fucking on camera. If you want real-life, do it in the privacy of your own bedroom.

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torris
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Posted - Nov 20 2009 : 10:25:15 AM
I like the idea of the Castings series. But hate Woodman. He's ugly, hairyback, small penis and he just ruts on the girls where you can't see anything. He's the Eurotrash Ed Powers. He should stay behind the camera and conduct the interviews if he must but by the time he gets to the action, I'm repulsed by his presence
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JBauer24
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Posted - Nov 20 2009 : 11:24:43 AM

I like some of his work.

But I tell ya... If I was getting some of the hottest women in the world - even if I was paying them money to do it... I'd still work my ass off to have a bangin body... And I'd shave all the excess back & chest hair.

I'd at least try to make myself look reasonably good so that there is some potential that the woman I'm screwing isn't thinking "EWWW disgusting" while I'm doing her.

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just_me
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Posted - Nov 20 2009 : 12:26:40 PM


shannow27a wrote:
[4] And there is a hidden camera. He uses them during interview in knowledge of the girls. When the girls consent to the initiation process, he promises them the cam will not recording the act.


Wow!!! Whoopie!!!

Now this is the kind of stand-up guy I want to hand all my money over to!!!

I may be the only one here, things seem really creepy on his sites, especially with his new piss one - anyone else think he may go out Grigori Galitsin style?

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shannow27a
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Posted - Nov 20 2009 : 12:28:30 PM
Woodman does embellish and exaggerates a bit. Every porn maker does that. You can call it staged if Woodman fucks every girl that comes for the interview. For every girl he initiated about 10 gets away.

Another thing you got wrong is girls showing up expecting payment to get ass-fucked. I didn’t put it that way. The girls do expect normal sex after payment. But Woodman surprises them with the anal angle at the last minute during the interview process. That’s why you see a gap between interview and actual initiation. Many of them don’t return. Check out his web site and you’ll find many girls doing only casting process and declining the initiation. And like Woodman said, there are so many rejections.

Though the likes of Angel Dark comes to Woodman with the intent and purpose to be a porn performer. To have a career out of it. But the best part of his casting series are the one-movie wonders or the girls who never does BG again and anal becomes a taboo. These girls make it all worthwhile because they are not acting when Woodman inserts his dick into their ass for the first time, judging from the way they thrash around in the bed. You can interpret their moans or groans as either in pain or in total ecstasy. It doesn’t matter because you are turned on by that time. It’s not acting when he pulls A2M on them and ejaculates into their mouth. Just look at their reaction and see the similarities when you did the same thing on your partner for the first time. These girls must be the next Meryl Streep if you still call it fake.

Comparing Pierre to Ed Powers is inevitable but way off base. Woodman’s girls are super-hotties with model looks and build. Nearly all the girls he bangs are classy-looking and certifiable goddess. And he reduces them to a pile of cum-swallowing ass-fucked whimpering woman. Granted Ed on occasion delivers us a babe but the sex scene is staid, the girls looks bored most of the time & unloading cum-filled condom on their breasts is pretty blah. In short, Ed doesn’t dominate the girls. In fact, he is like porn version of St.Peter. Saint Ed introduces the girls to porn in most genial manner and pointing girls to entrance of the Gates of Smut Heaven – “if you still think you can make it in porn heaven, be my guest.” In contrast, Woodman shows the newbie the harsher side of porn and sadly, many of them fails the test.

Check out the following initiations and then tell me if the girls were faking it:
1. 18-year old newbie Lyudmilla & Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 34
2. Lilou initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 30.
3. 23-year old Slovakian Rebecca early reluctance towards sex and anal but finally initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 35.
4. Marushka initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 26
5. Karina 'initiated' by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 2
6. Nicole AKA Elizabeth 'initiated' by Pierre Woodman in Hustler Casting Couch #5
7. Elza AKA Arwen initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Casting X 63 AKA Hustler Casting Couch 13.
8. 17-year old fresh-face Hungarian teen Colette 'initiated' by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 14 (1998).
9. 170cm Czechia Aisha AKA Jirina initiated by Pierre Woodman in Hustler Casting Couch #14 (2006).
10. 22-year-old Tunisian Muslim Roseanna brutally initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 9 (1998). Her only sole porn outing.
11. 18 years old Russian Magy AKA Maggie initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 46 (2003).

There are so many of them to be properly listed here and yet there are more coming soon from Woodman himself. Some of the initiations he did in 90’s unfortunately can’t be released until he gets the consent of girls involved. Many of these girls are one-movie wonders and he struggling to track them down now they are back in rural parts of Europe.

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Posted - Nov 20 2009 : 12:53:04 PM


just_me wrote:


shannow27a wrote:
[4] And there is a hidden camera. He uses them during interview in knowledge of the girls. When the girls consent to the initiation process, he promises them the cam will not recording the act.


Wow!!! Whoopie!!!

Now this is the kind of stand-up guy I want to hand all my money over to!!!

I may be the only one here, things seem really creepy on his sites, especially with his new piss one - anyone else think he may go out Grigori Galitsin style?


Pierre always make sure to get the girls permission later on when he wants to release the initiation. Woodman knows recording without prior knowledge of the other party can get him on the wrong side of the law. With added 'incentives', the women usually consents.

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DarkPlaces
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Posted - Nov 21 2009 : 03:41:12 AM


shannow27a wrote:
That’s how he manages to elicit a truly raw and arousing passion from the girls because they can be themselves without need to play to the cam. Ever notice the difference when the same girl has a passion of a dead horse when it comes to professional setting.

Edited by - shannow27a on 11/20/2009 4:36:15 AM


Uh-huh. It never ceases to amaze me how so many men mistake screaming for passion. Trust me: if someone shoved even the smallest dildo up your ass and slammed it with their full behind it, you'd scream too. Does that mean you're enjoying it? I, for one, never see passion in the eyes or responses of the women in Pierre's "castings." I see women holding on until it's over so they can cash a check, be it the one time for this job or the first of many jobs they expect to have.

It's like professional wrestling. If you've ever wrestled in high school or even seen olympic wrestling, you know it's fake. Same with sex and Pierre's castings.

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BlackSix
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Posted - Nov 21 2009 : 03:52:21 AM


shannow27a wrote:
Pierre always make sure to get the girls permission later on when he wants to release the initiation. Woodman knows recording without prior knowledge of the other party can get him on the wrong side of the law. With added 'incentives', the women usually consents.

I don't agree that Pierre is a Eurotrash Ed Powers, more of a Rodney Moore.

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Uppercut
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Posted - Nov 21 2009 : 11:14:41 AM
My favorite casting session by far, with the lovely Eva Roberts:

http://www.mofosex.com/videos/12179/Pierre-Woodman-08---Eva-Roberts.html?utm_source=PBWebMedia&utm_medium=TubeTraffic

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souvlaki
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Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 08:18:44 PM
I've seen the casting with Dido.. a angel face who said she want to lose virginity (both) with PW in his casting... I hope for her that this one was a fake..
What do you think about, a fraud or not?
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just_me
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Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 08:51:38 PM
Dido's video was more likely shot in 2009, not in 2006 as he claims. Either way, girls in porn are not virgins.

For instance, the casting of Angelica Heart she has a boobjob, despite the fact that she had her surgery over a year *after* he claimed to have casted her. They all are just stories to make a sale.

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souvlaki
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Posted - Jan 23 2010 : 06:26:12 AM
I agree, the video was shot in 2009 for me too... like you said Woodman is just another guy in porn..
I don't know why, but there is something in some of his casting that make me wonder "could be this real?", when I know that is just porn, business...
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Posted - Feb 8 2010 : 05:09:30 PM


shannow27a wrote:
To clarify few issues regarding Pierre Woodman’s initiation series. Yes some of them are staged but majority are real. It’s a long and arduous process as Woodman once admitted.

[2] Days before the actual interview, he makes sure the women are tested for any STD’s or other related diseases. That way he can make them exclusive to him first. Often the interview date and actual initiation is different. There is usually a gap of two or even several months before the girls agree to be ass-fucked. This is due to the girls checking around to see if anyone else offering better financial package than Woodman. Remember these girls are no way are interested in making hardcore porn their first option. Most of them prefers soft-core or lez aspect of it. However, big money is in where the cock is involved and Woodman is king when writing big fat checks.


Thanks for this answer. I've been waiting for someone to give some detailed info on this series.

A gap of around a month between 'first interview' and the actual 'sex initiation' would explain the girls sudden change of heart. Plenty of time for further persuasion and the financial incentives to sink in.

Many of girls look very plain on the first meeting. Not ready for xxx.

Only in the sex initiation do they take more care of appearance.

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Mutt
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I don't want to know - I just discovered the Woodman casting videos about 6 months ago - of my top 10 all time porn scenes at least 3 or 4 of them are already Woodman casting scenes and I haven't seen all of them yet. The Annetta Keyes video is the greatest amateur porn scene ever in my book. I watched the entire interview even - had to be half an hour long.

I'm as cynical as anybody and have looked at the scenes to see how staged they might be - there are a couple where it looks like the girl is over acting, like she's been coached beforehand to put up some resistance. Most of them though look very real.

Almost all great porn scenes are driven by the male in the scene - which is why there is so much weak porn out there these days, there is such a shallow pool of stunt cocks, most who are very average, we always hear the same tired old excuse why that is and it's still bullshit, with a few exceptions like Manuel Ferrara. To the guy who suggests Woodman is ugly and hairy and should shave, it actually enhances the scene - Woodman isn't ugly in the face at all, yes he's balding which these days is probably a turn on for as many girls as it is a turnoff and he's hairy, he's also a charmer intelligent and sophisticated, much more important than being ripped and hairless, there are plenty of ripped and hairless stunt cocks in porn whose scenes are lame, the female in the scene sure doesn't look like she's turned on. I don't see many of the girls in the Woodman casting videos looking turned off, and most of them look fucking turned on as hell after he's done the long charming interview and then the foreplay/pussy eating thing before going animal on them. A few look like they've fallen in love temporarily. He's had relationships with some gorgeous Euro pornstarlets. Don't put this guy in with the Ed Powers's of the porn world.

Not all the scenes are winners, some are dull and that also leads me to believe they aren't that staged.

I just wish there were more of them, especially from early in the decade.

Kind of sad, cuz when I found the Annetta Keyes video on a tube site I went to his paysite and was ready to pay - but i looked through his tour where all the members area videos are previewed and all of them were available on tube sites.

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Guam
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Posted - Feb 12 2010 : 05:44:05 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if some of the girls overplay innocent virgin and stare at the mag a bit too long.

It is definitely one of my favorite series, and the fact that many of the girls don't show up elsewhere or just show up in a few Private films after shows that it is not a total setup.

I think first time castings to sex scenes are the hottest things for me in porn, MDDs included.

Maruschka is one of my all time favs, and she just did Castings and then one or two more pics.

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Posted - Feb 27 2010 : 11:43:11 AM
The recent Pierre castings have been – I’m sad to say – at best average. One main reason comes to mind. The likes of Mandi Dee , Meg Laren , Nesti Shy and Liz all are in mould of Angel Dark. Yeah they are fresh. But the girls already decided hardcore will be their bread and butter. These ladies don’t have that deer-caught-in-the-headlights look.

So all Woodman typical questions and initiation that follows seems hollow. It doesn’t help the adult modeling agencies – particularly in East Europe are much more stringent and budget conscious nowadays. They don’t want to lose the newbie’s quickly as they used to back in 90’s and start of the following decade after Woodman haze the shit out of the models. The Russians have a burgeoning (but sterile in presentation) porn industry and when Woodman auditioned girls from there, he becomes one of scores of those Ruskies web sites searching for next big one for that part of smut industry.

Even the never-seen again-after-initiation : Tania Lubov reeks of experience. I would not be surprised if she is one of those escorts roaming the hotel lobbies searching for customers. By day works as a hairdresser, moonlight as a hooker.

Maestro have become desperate in recent times to add new materials to his web-site so model filtering have become an option rather than the rule. It really saddens me to see that.

Though he does roll out some gems. Alexandra Queen & Kendra comes to mind.

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Jonny Jay
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Posted - Feb 27 2010 : 01:40:12 PM
A big fan of Pierre, he will always capture vulnerability on camera somewhere in the world due to the economies of the world, so he will always pop up somewhere where girls are prepared to seek fame and fortune through pornogrophy,,,,,,,Many more good days to come and pretty, innocent girls to view.
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And the work he did with Tania Russof was great, there was a whole video on her, and in one scene he made out it was her first scene.

But it was hot.

And yes that Eva Roberts one was great.

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fathergll
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Posted - Mar 22 2011 : 08:34:28 PM


shannow27a wrote:


Check out the following initiations and then tell me if the girls were faking it:
1. 18-year old newbie Lyudmilla & Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 34
2. Lilou initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 30.
3. 23-year old Slovakian Rebecca early reluctance towards sex and anal but finally initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 35.
4. Marushka initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 26
5. Karina 'initiated' by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 2
6. Nicole AKA Elizabeth 'initiated' by Pierre Woodman in Hustler Casting Couch #5
7. Elza AKA Arwen initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Casting X 63 AKA Hustler Casting Couch 13.
8. 17-year old fresh-face Hungarian teen Colette 'initiated' by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 14 (1998).
9. 170cm Czechia Aisha AKA Jirina initiated by Pierre Woodman in Hustler Casting Couch #14 (2006).
10. 22-year-old Tunisian Muslim Roseanna brutally initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 9 (1998). Her only sole porn outing.
11. 18 years old Russian Magy AKA Maggie initiated by Pierre Woodman in Private Castings X 46 (2003).

There are so many of them to be properly listed here and yet there are more coming soon from Woodman himself. Some of the initiations he did in 90’s unfortunately can’t be released until he gets the consent of girls involved. Many of these girls are one-movie wonders and he struggling to track them down now they are back in rural parts of Europe.



Old thread but one a good one.

I have to agree. There is no question in my mind many of these girls are indeed NOT faking. I've seen most of the castings from 1-63 and there is no way in hell these girls are all faking. Some of them do come off a bit weird and overacting comes into mind but the overwhelming amount are genuine. I've been editing video for over 10 years and im extremely good at spotting fake videos. A lot of video editors are exceptional good at this

For example a clear indication of a girl having an orgasm is if she gets flushed in the face. Now because these videos are not taped in HD, and the cameras are typically old on today's standards a lot of times you can't see this(not to mention not all girls are really noticeable when they get flushed). You can actually see some of the girls getting flushed in the face during his videos(most is barely noticeable). I'm not just talking about the anal scenes when hes being ruff and you would expect a girl to get red in the face. I'm even talking about the oral scenes at the beginning.

Example of this is #37 with the Russian girl Julia. Shes a perfect example because she gets flushed in the face very easy. If you compare a shot of her face at the very beginning of oral with Woodman then fast forward when she starts moaning and convulsing her face turns completely red including her forehead. Thats not acting. For further review I watched another video of her from around that same time and its one called "Julia with boyfriend". Its a video with her and guy in her early 20's. Well the the dude in the video looked like he had no idea what he was doing, he gave her oral then fucked her with a condom and he lasted 30 second flat, I kid you not. She didn't turn flush at all and was never thrashing around in the bed. I watched a third Juila movie with another guy and pretty much the same result. She acted completed different in the Pierre movie compared to the other two, not to mention the physical indication of being flushed in the face with Pierre indicating an orgasm.

The only reason I would spend this much time analyzing his videos is because when I saw them they looked absolutely real to me, and the girls were all going crazy in a genuine way which is rare except for some homemade videos. I've watched a ton of his videos partly to get ideas for improving sex in my personal life. I'm not talking about the anal, but the oral and the actual sex itself. Watching Woodman is like watching a black belt in bed and you're a fool if your passing up on some potential ideas to implement in your own sex life.

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fathergll
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Posted - Mar 22 2011 : 08:41:37 PM


DarkPlaces wrote:


shannow27a wrote:
That’s how he manages to elicit a truly raw and arousing passion from the girls because they can be themselves without need to play to the cam. Ever notice the difference when the same girl has a passion of a dead horse when it comes to professional setting.

Edited by - shannow27a on 11/20/2009 4:36:15 AM


Uh-huh. It never ceases to amaze me how so many men mistake screaming for passion. Trust me: if someone shoved even the smallest dildo up your ass and slammed it with their full behind it, you'd scream too. Does that mean you're enjoying it? I, for one, never see passion in the eyes or responses of the women in Pierre's "castings." I see women holding on until it's over so they can cash a check, be it the one time for this job or the first of many jobs they expect to have.

It's like professional wrestling. If you've ever wrestled in high school or even seen olympic wrestling, you know it's fake. Same with sex and Pierre's castings.


You've either watched the wrong Pierre movies or you don't know how to spot when women aren't faking. Most of his stuff from 1-63 is indeed real. I mentioned girls even getting flushed in the face from earlier. You can ask almost anyone who works in the porn industry and he will point that out as being true as well. (Note to guys out there on how to potentially tell you're partner is faking as well lol)

You're wrestling analogy is silly. Just because someone has been laid doesn't mean they can spot someone faking it. Why do you think the biggest cliche joke about men an women is whether or not a girl is faking with a guy.

Edited by - fathergll on 3/22/2011 8:44:25 PM

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Posted - Mar 22 2011 : 08:59:14 PM


BlackSix wrote:


shannow27a wrote:
Pierre always make sure to get the girls permission later on when he wants to release the initiation. Woodman knows recording without prior knowledge of the other party can get him on the wrong side of the law. With added 'incentives', the women usually consents.

I don't agree that Pierre is a Eurotrash Ed Powers, more of a Rodney Moore.


Rodney Moore, while homely and goofy, couldn't pass for a Gorilla with mange like Pierre. Plus Rodney had a worthy dick and isn't the size of a swollen finger like Pierre.

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Posted - Mar 22 2011 : 11:26:33 PM

Don't really understand the point of this thread? All the girls appearing in Woodman's casting series are most likely prostitutes and call girls looking to get into porn movies. Some have probably done movies already. They also have to discuss payment, sign releases, and provide proof of age before any action takes place. The rest is just Ed Powers type staged interview. They definitely didn't just show up and decide to let him fuck them for free?

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fathergll
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Posted - Mar 23 2011 : 12:12:12 AM


zambi wrote:

Don't really understand the point of this thread? They definitely didn't just show up and decide to let him fuck them for free?



The point? Basically are the girls aware that they are being taped and/or are faking?

The early castings(1-63) most seemed to be 100% legit. Many of the scenes are amazing because of two things

1. They don't know they are being filmed at the time and thus are letting go sexually
2. Pierre is a master at sex and is given these girls incredible orgasms.


Personally i think his stuff is 100 times better than some porn actress faking it for a camera.




zambi wrote:
They definitely didn't just show up and decide to let him fuck them for free?



Not at all. That would silly to think. Read shannow27a's posts.

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Posted - Mar 23 2011 : 01:35:05 AM


fathergll wrote:

1. They don't know they are being filmed at the time and thus are letting go sexually
2. Pierre is a master at sex and is given these girls incredible orgasms.


Regarding (1) .. possible they didn't know beforehand and signed release
forms afterward? But I doubt he could hide the cameran, and didn't he change
the position of the camera during the interview and sex?

Regarding (2) .. if you really think those girls are having orgasms banging
a bald, pudgy, fart like Woodman I have some swamp land to sell you. ;-)
Like I said most of those girls were experienced hookers and they knew
he wanted them to act because they were auditioning to be in Private movies.
I remember him showing them Private magazines and asking them if they could
do what they saw in the magazines. Also most of those girls did hardcore
anal and nobody does anal without prepping first. It's all setup.

I remember when I used to believe reality TV shows were real. Now I know
that everything you see on camera is setup. Anyway doesn't Woodman have a
blog or website? I think you just ask him.

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DarkPlaces
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Posted - Mar 23 2011 : 01:39:06 AM


fathergll wrote:


DarkPlaces wrote:


shannow27a wrote:
That’s how he manages to elicit a truly raw and arousing passion from the girls because they can be themselves without need to play to the cam. Ever notice the difference when the same girl has a passion of a dead horse when it comes to professional setting.

Edited by - shannow27a on 11/20/2009 4:36:15 AM


Uh-huh. It never ceases to amaze me how so many men mistake screaming for passion. Trust me: if someone shoved even the smallest dildo up your ass and slammed it with their full behind it, you'd scream too. Does that mean you're enjoying it? I, for one, never see passion in the eyes or responses of the women in Pierre's "castings." I see women holding on until it's over so they can cash a check, be it the one time for this job or the first of many jobs they expect to have.

It's like professional wrestling. If you've ever wrestled in high school or even seen olympic wrestling, you know it's fake. Same with sex and Pierre's castings.


You've either watched the wrong Pierre movies or you don't know how to spot when women aren't faking. Most of his stuff from 1-63 is indeed real. I mentioned girls even getting flushed in the face from earlier. You can ask almost anyone who works in the porn industry and he will point that out as being true as well. (Note to guys out there on how to potentially tell you're partner is faking as well lol)

You're wrestling analogy is silly. Just because someone has been laid doesn't mean they can spot someone faking it. Why do you think the biggest cliche joke about men an women is whether or not a girl is faking with a guy.

Edited by - fathergll on 3/22/2011 8:44:25 PM


I find it hysterical that I can't spot someone faking it, but your visual sense over who isn't is irrefutable. You've got sexual eagle eyes. Just because you believe it's real, doesn't make it real,chief. Actors sweat and get flushed in sex scenes in regular movies too, but I'm pretty sure they're not even fucking.

He's selling fantasy and if you buy it, great. But I don't, starting with not every woman on the planet loves being pounded like a jackhammer, especially anally. That's porn fantasy, which again, is what Woodman is selling and you're clearly buying as you think that equates "sexual mastery." Women actually mock that belief on a regular basis. There was even a whole Sex & The City episode about how stupid men were to think that every woman wants that. Another porn fantasy: unattractive, bald, hairy old men (whose penises never seem to get fully hard) can rock a young girl's world like no one else. Being sold by Woodman. Still another porn fantasy: domination. Also being sold by Woodman, because I can say without doubt holding a girl's head down while you come in her mouth with dick pulled freshly from an orifice is not rewarded with smiles and kisses anywhere but in well. paid. porn.

Not to mention, saying that there's a hidden camera means all the girls are in fact agreeing to fuck a hairy old man for money. Basically, they're flat out agreeing to be whores. The only way they're not is if they're fully aware of being filmed...like when the girl asks where's his camera and he points to it. Or he pulls her up to it so as to show dumping the condom into her mouth, both of which I've seen. Or the fact the room is clearly being lit by a giant light in corner. These poor girls. How they must have felt coming to their first real porn shoot to discover swallowing and taking internal cumshots were not a regular part of the job, just something he had them do.

Seriously, what some people are willing to believe...


Edited by - DarkPlaces on 3/23/2011 2:33:24 AM

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fathergll
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Posted - Mar 23 2011 : 12:25:10 PM


zambi wrote:
Regarding (1) .. possible they didn't know beforehand and signed release
forms afterward? But I doubt he could hide the cameran, and didn't he change
the position of the camera during the interview and sex?



You got to read the thread. shannow27a answers this

"[4] And there is a hidden camera. He uses them during interview in knowledge of the girls. When the girls consent to the initiation process, he promises them the cam will not recording the act. As always in pretext of sending the girl to the bathroom to clean-up, he hides a second one nearby the bed. He then shows the girl that he putting away the original camera or giving to his translator. That’s how he manages to elicit a truly raw and arousing passion from the girls because they can be themselves without need to play to the cam. Ever notice the difference when the same girl has a passion of a dead horse when it comes to professional setting."




Regarding (2) .. if you really think those girls are having orgasms banging
a bald, pudgy, fart like Woodman I have some swamp land to sell you. ;-)


If you think women are like men when it comes to attraction I also have a bridge to sell you. Women don't like banging big yoked up guys that you typically see in some porn either.

I came across this post on another forum and I found it interesting when it comes to the female psyche

"One more thing: I was watching a Woodman 'initiation' with my ex girlfriend back in '00. Her eyes literally 'LIT UP' watching Woodman in action. I was shocked at the time, and objected ''but he's fat and hairy''. Her response: ''YEAH, BUT HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING!'' (in a GUSHING voice).

Somebody commented earlier that all women want to be 'bent over and dominated'. I've always tried 'making love' to women, but perhaps I've been doing it wrong all along!

Ultimately, it probably depends on the woman and her mood at any particular moment. You get to know them intimately and find out what they like and don't like.

Unless you're Woodman, in which case you just do what you want with them and get away with it."



Like I said most of those girls were experienced hookers and they knew
he wanted them to act because they were auditioning to be in Private movies.
I remember him showing them Private magazines and asking them if they could
do what they saw in the magazines. Also most of those girls did hardcore
anal and nobody does anal without prepping first. It's all setup.


Read shannow27a's post. He covers this



I remember when I used to believe reality TV shows were real. Now I know
that everything you see on camera is setup. Anyway doesn't Woodman have a
blog or website? I think you just ask him.


lol. Im not sure what his videos have to do with reality tv. If you look at the girls body language they're not faking. They are obviously coming in knowing they are auditioning for something in the adult industry. The catch is Pierre offers them 4 times what they could get doing anything else and has sex with them telling them the main camera is off or they take it away all the while there is a hidden camera. Its not fake. Did some of the girls do prostitution before? Im sure there are some. The point is the majority of this is girls not acting for a camera. Look up castings #11 Yasana from 1992 and tell me thats fake. Tell me the girl is acting during the interview.

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^ Wow the level of delusion that exist with some porn fans is amazing. But I don't want to get into a flame war over this. You guys probably believe squirting is for real also. Anyway like I said just ask Woodman and I'm sure he will admit it was all setup. Also the comment about the flood lights being used in the room was great also. You have to have a lot of light to shoot decent video. I guess he hid those lights also? Anyway I'm outta here.

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fathergll
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Posted - Mar 23 2011 : 12:55:27 PM



DarkPlaces wrote:

I find it hysterical that I can't spot someone faking it, but your visual sense over who isn't is irrefutable. You've got sexual eagle eyes. Just because you believe it's real, doesn't make it real,chief. Actors sweat and get flushed in sex scenes in regular movies too, but I'm pretty sure they're not even fucking.


You obviously haven't spoken with anyone who works in porn have you? Believe me you can spot when women are having orgasms. I could care less if you go through life a little more ignorant in this area.


He's selling fantasy and if you buy it, great. But I don't, starting with not every woman on the planet loves being pounded like a jackhammer, especially anally.

Who says every woman on the planet loves being pounded? There are clearly times where they tell him to ease off as its too much. Also Woodman isn't big at all which is why hes able to pound them like a jackhammer. If you're well endowed I suggest not doing what Pierre does



That's porn fantasy, which again, is what Woodman is selling and you're clearly buying as you think that equates "sexual mastery." Women actually mock that belief on a regular basis. There was even a whole Sex & The City episode about how stupid men were to think that every woman wants that.

And you're now going to tell me girls don't like getting their hair pulled at all and want all guys to be gentle and make love to them because woman are not sexual creatures

I got news for you, women are as sexual and sometime more than men. A lot of Women want guys who are good in bed, Yes that means actually requires a lot of effort on the guys part. Go watch some real homemade porns out there. Im talking about the ones where the girls are screaming their heads off and tell me if the guys are being real gentle with them.


The difference is most guys are stupid and try to start pounding at a girl right away. If you know how to work them up to that point over a longer period then you can do that


Another porn fantasy: unattractive, bald, hairy old men (whose penises never seem to get fully hard) can rock a young girl's world like no one else. Being sold by Woodman. lled freshly from an orifice is not rewarded with smiles and kisses anywhere but in well. paid. porn.


So you're telling me you have seen Pierre's casting videos when he was 29 years old and not bald and not fat? Is that what you're selling me?


Not to mention, saying that there's a hidden camera means all the girls are in fact agreeing to fuck a hairy old man for money.

Congratulations. That was already stated one page 1

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fathergll
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Posted - Mar 23 2011 : 01:08:51 PM


zambi wrote:
^ Wow the level of delusion that exist with some porn fans is amazing.


Typically general response. Instead of refuting anything I said you just cop out of the discussion with "You guys are delusion"



Anyway like I said just ask Woodman and I'm sure he will admit it was all setup.


Yes he has a forum, I've been there and read the posts. He goes into details about a lot of the scenes. He says its not fake. I'm not saying everything is real thats hes done but plenty is. I'm referring to his early videos in this thread.



Also the comment about the flood lights being used in the room was great also. You have to have a lot of light to shoot decent video. I guess he hid those lights also?

What? Ugh you guys can't think outside the box a bit? Did you ever think that he left the lights set up because prior during the initial interview the girl takes her cloths off knowingly in front of the camera and the flood light in the corner. Nothing ridiculous about that.

On top of this not all the videos have lights on at all. Some videos the light is clearly from a window. Some shots are really poorly lit with a terrible angle. You obviously haven't watch much of his videos to form an educated opinion on this.

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