Porn in 60fps is the greatest thing ever!

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joeblow123321
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11/09
Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 02:16:55 AM
Does anyone know of any sites shooting in 60fps? If I were given the choice between a movie at SD resolution shot at 60 frames a second and a 1080X1920 movie that was shot at 30 frames a second, I'd take the 60fps version any day. It's like looking through a window!

It just looks amazingly clear... and with many new high-end prosumer camcorders now able to shoot in 60fps, there's no reason not to shoot it this way. They could release the higher quality 60fps stuff for the sites, and then release a downsampled version for dvds and blu ray. Even if they DIDN'T release the 60fps stuff now, they would be futureproofing their content for later...

I know Jim Cameron recently announced that the new Avatar would be shot at 60fps (or maybe 48fps)... it's time we bring this tech to porn!

I guess that at this point the holy grail would be a a porn shot on a RED 4k camera; they actually would be somewhat reasonable to rent for a day shoot; around 700 bucks for the body, lens, and data packs. It might be a bit of a one-time expense, but can you imagine being the first company to release a porn shot at 4000x2400 at 60fps?

A boy can dream...

But in the mean-time, if you know of any site that is putting out 60fps content right now, let me know! I want to give them some of my money...

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DJboutit2
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Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 02:31:04 AM
60fps take a really fast computer to play smoothly I do not think most of the people are ready for 60fps this is about 3 to 5 yrs away
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joeblow123321
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Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 06:11:02 AM


DJboutit2 wrote:
60fps take a really fast computer to play smoothly I do not think most of the people are ready for 60fps this is about 3 to 5 yrs away

Respectfully I'm not sure that's totally correct. I'll bet the data rates for, say, an SD 60fps file is much less than the data rate for a full HD 1080x1920 file. Yet many sites offer those as an option. In fact, by using google analytics on some of my sites, I find less than a third of my visitors even have monitors that are capable of playing a 1080 x 1920 file; most visitors have monitors that are smaller than a full HD size. Yet this doesn't stop the major porn sites from offering full HD options on their downloads.

I think pretty much every video card in every pc in the last 5 years has been capable of generating 60fps. Right now I'm using a two-year old 900 dollar laptop, with a 1080 x 1920 screen, along with an additional 1080 x 1920 monitor connected at the back... and I know I can run two full 1080p videos simultaneously, and I'm pretty sure I've run two 60 fps videos at the same time (though I don't think they were 1080 resolution). And this is on a very very cheap two year old computer running dual monitors...

Lots and lots of sits offer HD as an option. That's all I'm suggesting... shoot in 60fps 1080p, and then give us the option as to what will work on our system, be it HD, SD, 60fps, or 30fps. One of the big sites (maybe brazzers?) charges a bit more for access to the HD version of their clips; I'd be willing to pay the same for a 60fps version were it available.

If much of the reason for the move to HD filming was to give us a more immersive experience, then I would argue that 60fps--even at standard resolution--is much more immersive than HD shot at 30fps. But regardless... there's no real technical reason NOT to offer it in additional to a 30fps version right now, and it might be a good selling point to a particular site, so I just wish some of the big boys like kink, brazzers, etc would jump on it.

It's often been noted that porn tends to be at the leading edge of emerging technologies (like the VCR, VOD, the internet). Now hollywood seems to the one on leading edge. C'mon porn producers... don't let Jim Cameron take your glory!

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DJboutit2
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Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 01:06:22 PM
I have a computer with only a 64mb video card I have a really hard time playing 720p & 1080p videos you need a min of a 256mb video card
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joeblow123321
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Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 02:19:13 PM


DJboutit2 wrote:
I have a computer with only a 64mb video card I have a really hard time playing 720p & 1080p videos you need a min of a 256mb video card

So I guess my point is that anyone who can play HD can probably play 60fps, and anyone like you probably would need 30fps content. These are all givens; but this hasn't stopped producers from putting out a LOT of HD content. I'm just arguing that 60fps content actually has a bigger visual impact than HD... so why not put it out as well?

It's clear that this is the direction where everything is going; so why are some of the big boys jumping on the bandwagon early. It's a WAY smaller hurdle than it was 3 years ago when porn companies started putting out 720 and 1080 HD stuff, knowing that only a small percentage of consumers could play it. Now that number is clearly much higher -- its the same folks who can now play 60fps...

I wish there were a free sample somewhere to link too; the effect really is astonishing...

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Ramsey
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Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 02:30:12 PM
Which websites are shooting 60fps content?
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Drebin
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Posted - Sep 27 2011 : 04:47:49 PM
my pc and laptop got no probs playing 1080p even at 60fps, ps3 can handle it also. been into hd porn for the last couple of years. in that time have gone back to get the hd versions of favourite releases where available as i use to settle for dvd/dvd quality even though i had all the capable hardware since late 07.

i would think heaps of porn would have been filmed in 1080p/60fps the last 2-3 years but obviously like a lot of entertainment media its compressed down to save time+money when producing and distributing. a lot of new porn releases don't even recieve a bluray release even though on the dvd it says "filmed in HD"

pretty much every low budget indy/stv mainstream movies get a bluray release these days but as mentioned above we can't say the same for porn. at least the hd download/vod sites like brazzers, 21sextury etc. are right up there quality wise with itunes and amazon etc.

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bootz
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Posted - Oct 2 2011 : 04:04:01 PM
I'm not so sure its just the frame rate you have been impressed by.
Generally these '60fps' videos are encoded from standard 25/30fps.
What you seeing is the interpolation generated by compression.
I'm sure there has been some effect for playback software todo this live.

Intresting point to raise thought.

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JohnW
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Posted - Oct 2 2011 : 05:44:31 PM
Yep its about time we moved to higher frame rates. Once you have watched some 60fps material, it can be really annoying to watch the choppy 24/25/30fps stuff that you were used to. Because it _is_ choppy, there's no arguing against that. We've had HD for some time, the next step should be to get more material released with higher fps.

BTW, I'm not arguing to force anyone to use it. I know some videophiles cringe at the thought of movies being released in higher than 24fps, because they like the "illusion" that the choppy 24fps gives, and they associate it with film (no wonder since they've watched films that way all their lives). But at least let the director choose which format to use. If a director insists of continuing with 24fps then that's his prerogrative (as would black/and white be if he preferred that). I would still think its sad that a good movie would forever be stuck at a choppy, unnatural fps that was agreed to in the 1920s, but as long as there is a choice out there, the director will have the opportunity to use higher fps if he wants to.

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joeblow123321
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Posted - Oct 3 2011 : 12:22:38 AM


bootz wrote:
I'm not so sure its just the frame rate you have been impressed by.
Generally these '60fps' videos are encoded from standard 25/30fps.
What you seeing is the interpolation generated by compression.
I'm sure there has been some effect for playback software todo this live.

Intresting point to raise thought.


You're actually absolutely right; I've looked into since my first post and found that prosumer cameras (standard fare for porn shoots) don't really have many 60fps options. That said, they are absolutely coming, and with Jim Cameron trying to push 60fps (or possibly 40fps) onto the big screen, and with prosumer clearly moving towards 60fps--I say it's time one or two porn companies jump on the bleeding edge.

Ironically there are a LOT of lower-end consumer camcorders with 60fps... but they don't have the capabilities that a porn shoot probably needs. And the higher-end stuff is probably out of their league.

As I mentioned before, I'd like to see a porn company go out and rent a RED camera and shoot at 60fps in full 4k resolution (which is 6 times the resolution of blu-ray). Not that your computer wouldn't explode trying to play it and not that you'd need the highest of high end monitors just to fit the picture... but that would be the craziest, clearest porn thing ever shot. There's not a huge amount of downside to shooting higher res and downsampling for your various uses... you just can't go the other direction. Which is why every TV show shot on video made before about 2007 looks like shit and has a limited value now. But shows shot on film where they are able to scan the original footage look great and continue to have great appeal.

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