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GODFATHER
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Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 11:26:00 PM
OK. This topic burned up another board I visit. So I might as well bring it up here. On another board, someone posed the question: Why do straight men watch shemales? Are they secretly gay? Are they simply digging the novelty of the third sex? Maybe they like the idea of women who take it in the ass in every scene? I'd love to hear some input on this.
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Porn Scout
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Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 11:58:00 PM
I think it's gay. Sorry, not a lot else to say.
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Whore
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Posted - Jan 27 2005 : 11:59:00 PM
It's one thing watching a chick getting it up the ass.

It's another thing when that chick has a dick. YUCK!

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RobHammer
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 12:19:00 AM
Who cares. It's been discussed to death. People like what they like. As long as you can find what you like, why worry about people who like what you don't.

To answer the question - 'cause it's fucking HOT!!!! Chicks with dicks!!!!

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lou sapphire
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 12:37:00 AM
Like you said rob.."People like what they like"
Its all yours man!
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loop
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 01:47:00 AM
i like watching shemales but only with girls . as a matter of fact i do prefer g/g only movies than straight one so less man are better for me (and a shemale is less man of course).

to me seeing a girl with a shemale is not gay at all. to me , all those 2 or more guys on 1 girl is much more gay (all the dap , dpp). and the hypocracy about shemales from guys who likes dap or dpp is very funny .

but hey who cares , gays , straights , everyone should watch whatever they like and anyone knows whether he is gay or not without others trying to figure it out.

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vodka tonic
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 03:40:00 AM
You'll be hard-pressed to find a gay man who watches she-male videos. This is not a gay fantasy at all.
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cubesnake
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 05:23:00 AM
Hi,



GODFATHER wrote:
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On another board, someone posed the question: Why do straight men watch shemales?

Are they secretly gay? Are they simply digging the novelty of the third sex? Maybe they like the idea of women who take it in the ass in every scene?

I'd love to hear some input on this.


1st of all i own every Volume of Rogue Adventures from EA. To be honest, i´ve been asking myself a couple of times too. I couldn´t find an answer yet. I have to agree that i like Shemale/girl scenes better than shemale/male but if i´m in the right "mood" i have fantasiezed about shemales too. Maybe that makes me "bi" ... even though i wouldn´t want to have sex with a man. I´d rather have a shemale than a girl with a strap-on ... as far as that fantasy goes. On the other hand ... if it were Lola or Tiffany Mynx wearing the strap-on i could make an exeption . Other than that RobHammer and loop said it all :)

Cube

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loz
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 05:28:00 AM
Well - I tried one of the Rogue Adventures DVDs as it looked intruifing - but unfortunately it wasnt for me. Trouble was I couldnt think of them as chicks with dicks, but men with tits! THAT was a turn-off! ;)
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bigmoon
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 05:33:00 AM
Yeah I like to see shamales with girls. This is a genre that's becoming more popular, if the number of sites on the net are anything to go off.
I think if you prefer to see shemales with guys, then that's a little bit gay!! :)

Edited by - bigmoon on 1/28/2005 5:33:59 AM

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croy
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 05:35:00 AM


cubesnake wrote:
if it were Lola or Tiffany Mynx wearing the strap-on i could make an exeption .
I belive she did this back in the mid-90's. I think the title was Buttsizer: The King of Rears .
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Cumwhipper
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 07:32:00 AM
With all due respect, GODFATHER, I agree with RobHammer...

Who cares. It's been discussed to death. People like what they like. As long as you can find what you like, why worry about people who like what you don't.
One could also ask similar questions about whether those who enjoy watching 50-man creampies would actually enjoy participating in one. Maybe they would and maybe they wouldn't . The point is that porn is about depicting fantasies (which it often falls short at doing well anyway!). I may have fantasies about doing extreme violence to a co-worker that pissed me off yesterday. That doesn't make me a violent person.
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younggabe
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 09:08:00 AM
its just another interesting kind of sex.There are interesting and tame shemale movies as well as there are interesting and tame gonzo movies etc.I dont think its "gay" to watch a shemale movie it depends on your lust for sex in another aspect.
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MLyons
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 09:19:00 AM
Uhg!

I'm so tired of this discussion. It's not your fault GODFATHER, but ADT has seen this discussion again and again. Some searching will turn up multiple threads that were sometimes pretty interesting, but invariably degenerated into the same ol' narrow-minded arguments. I just don't see the point of it. Discussions like these can't help but make a strange kind of gay/straight evaluative judgement for no good reason. There's an audience for shemales just as there's an audience for DAPs. This is a porn forum. Why do we still insist on labeling people? Who cares if it's gay or not? I just don't understand.

Edited by - MLyons on 1/28/2005 9:25:00 AM

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GODFATHER
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 11:35:00 AM
WOW! A dozen replies in as many hours.
I really sparked something here, didn't I?
I wasn't aware this was a hackneyed topic on ADT. Maybe I shouldv'e looked through the database first. Sorry.

From my experience, I find a lot of men who view the shemale porn, gravitate toward a small group of very feminine performers...like Vanity, and Fabiane DeLeCosta, and Patricia Araujo.
In fact, many don't even view the entire films..just selected scenes.
And they tend to FF through the shemale/male scenes.

I guess it's just a preferential thing. Different strokes, and all that.

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M.B.
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 02:01:00 PM
This is the only way I could describe an attraction to shemales.
Some guys are attracted to cock, but not on males. They don't like what men look like, they aren't attracted to men.
But a cock on a girl or "shemale" as some would put it is an entirely different thing.
As someone else said earlier, gay men aren't into shemales. Guys that think other men are attractive and hot don't think shemales are attractive, why? Because they look like women not men.
Gay men are into the whole package on a guy just like hetereo women are, face, body etc.
But guys that are into shemales aren't into other guys, they don't find other men attractive because they are masculine.
Shemales are attractive to "straight men" because some guys like cock on a feminine body, a woman's body.
You will notice that guys that are into shemales are also into genetic women. They date both women and shemales, but not guys. I know you will say shemales are guys and technically they are, but they don't LOOK like guys and that's the whole point.
Most guys into shemales will tell you they don't care if a "woman" has a cock or not. If he finds her attractive she can have a cock (shemale) or not have a cock (genetic woman) and it doesn't matter to him, he would fuck her either way.
Femininity is the key.
Some guys are into the feminine look that a female has no matter what's inbetween "her" legs if you know what I mean.
If she has a cock, that's a bonus.


Edited by - M.B. on 1/29/2005 1:08:46 AM

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cubesnake
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 02:58:00 PM
Hi,

Do you know this movie ? While it may not be "everyones" movie it makes you think about a few things. About the Shemales ... i too like only shemales that fit the "girl_with_cock" description and not the "guy_with_tits" description

Cube

Edited by - cubesnake on 1/28/2005 3:01:27 PM

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M.B.
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 04:54:00 PM
Yeah I've seen it, but this movie is much better:

Princesa

The t-girl that played the starring role took her own life soon after this movie was released.
If you don't mind sub-titles, it's really very good.
It's a story about a Brazilian transsexual who moves to Italy to escort and save money for a sex change, but she meets a guy and things get complicated, you know the story. All the transsexuals in this movie are t-girls in real life and live their lives as women. It's a lot more realistic of a movie than Hollywood portrayals of the transgendered.

Edited by - M.B. on 1/28/2005 4:57:23 PM

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younggabe
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 05:26:00 PM
M.B. is clearly on my mind +1 my friend for your opinion
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VincentVanGauge
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 05:37:00 PM
I think that's just a thing of curiosity with me. I had to see it once and then I knew it.
A shemale is a guy that looks like a girl but has a cock instead of what makes me most horny about women.
I don't think it's gay to dig shemales but I prefer a pink little pussy anytime.

So every fire hydrant could squirt if you got the key? I say it's all just piss!

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LeopoldStotch
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 09:12:00 PM
Danielle Foxxx is enough to make a straight guy wonder...

For people who've seen Danielle in action, who hasn't been impressed? I'd think only a small %. Danielle's a top porn performer, including all genres, not simply shemale.

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lou sapphire
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 10:08:00 PM
Bottom line. there are these things called chromomes. no matter what gender someone chooses to alter themselves into, He or She are the gender they were born.
I have no problem with anyones sexual preference...but dont try and dress it up as something else. if thats your thing admit to at least being bi!
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UCpanther
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 10:28:00 PM
If that were true then gay guys would be into shemale porn.

I think M.B. has got it right.

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lou sapphire
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 10:33:00 PM
gay guys like men that look like men.
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arthur
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 11:02:00 PM
I agree that gay men like men who look like men. Some bi guys, however, go for the tranny look. And, as we all know, some straight men go for the tranny look as well.
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GODFATHER
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 11:42:00 PM
M. B.....you're a smart mofo.

I like the way your mind works.

Edited by - GODFATHER on 1/28/2005 11:42:32 PM

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Valentino
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Posted - Jan 29 2005 : 07:35:00 PM
Yes he is.....because he just described my opinion in this.

I've been into trannies for a long time (my shemale porn collection outmatches my straight porn collection by far, as in 3 vs 50); I never worried about me being gay.

''The unexamined life is not worth living''

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lou sapphire
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Posted - Jan 29 2005 : 09:26:00 PM
I don't think there is a definitive answer to this subject, and believe me im not in any way judging anyone's sexuality or being disrespectful.
But if i can ask one question? When i find a hot actress, i tell my friends and girlfriend about her. do you discuss your attraction to She males with your friends and girlfriends?
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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 02:44:00 AM


vodka tonic wrote:
You'll be hard-pressed to find a gay man who watches she-male videos. This is not a gay fantasy at all.

Most of the gay guys I know aren't into she-male videos, but categorizing the tastes of gay men as an all-or-nothing thing is as tricky as categorizing the tastes of a supposedly 100% straight man.
I have gay friends who watch straight porn that has hot guys in it because they'd rather watch a scene that doesn't have a condom (among other reasons - that's just an example from one guy).
And I have straight guy friends who only watch girl/girl porn because they get freaked out looking at another guy's dick (that's a little over-top-homophobic, if you ask me, but whatever).

arthur - I couldn't agree with you more.

Godfather - I think you answered your own topic here: "I guess it's just a preferential thing. Different strokes, and all that."

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GODFATHER
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 12:35:00 PM
Nothing like a good debate to get the juices flowing...figuratively on course.

Thanks for all the input, guys. It is much appreciated.

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Lugnuts
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 12:42:00 PM

Some shemales are real hot looking while others look like ugly men.

As far as I am concerned "Its all good"

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LCF
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 01:55:00 PM
I'm an eterosexual exclusive and even cannot understand How it is possible girl may like males which are attractive like a tree to me , but i think that each one of us may choose what he or she wants in his/her life. I don't care who likes who i only make sure that if i try to have a date with a girl she like it and is not lesbian.

for the rest i live an let live .

There's a gay forum on this board i'm not intersted in so i do not read message and do not go there to tell them i don't agree their way of life they're supposed not to be interested on people which don't like males and that's all

Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 1/30/2005 1:57:09 PM

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myk
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 02:09:00 PM
Just to be correct, its not a cock on a girl. Its breasts on a man.

Myk



M.B. wrote:
This is the only way I could describe an attraction to shemales.
Some guys are attracted to cock, but not on males. They don't like what men look like, they aren't attracted to men.
But a cock on a girl or "shemale" as some would put it is an entirely different thing.
As someone else said earlier, gay men aren't into shemales. Guys that think other men are attractive and hot don't think shemales are attractive, why? Because they look like women not men.
Gay men are into the whole package on a guy just like hetereo women are, face, body etc.
But guys that are into shemales aren't into other guys, they don't find other men attractive because they are masculine.
Shemales are attractive to "straight men" because some guys like cock on a feminine body, a woman's body.
You will notice that guys that are into shemales are also into genetic women. They date both women and shemales, but not guys. I know you will say shemales are guys and technically they are, but they don't LOOK like guys and that's the whole point.
Most guys into shemales will tell you they don't care if a "woman" has a cock or not. If he finds her attractive she can have a cock (shemale) or not have a cock (genetic woman) and it doesn't matter to him, he would fuck her either way.
Femininity is the key.
Some guys are into the feminine look that a female has no matter what's inbetween "her" legs if you know what I mean.
If she has a cock, that's a bonus.


Edited by - M.B. on 1/29/2005 1:08:46 AM


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T.L.Tycoon
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 06:47:00 PM
Iam 100% STR8.I have watched maybe 3 Trannie Films for
curiosity sake and it does nothing for me personally.What
does get me off however;Is seeing a She-Male fucking a real
Female and her sucking the She-males Cock.This is the closes
enjoyment I get out of this stuff.
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M.B.
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 08:06:00 PM
myk,
I know ultimately a shemale is technically a guy.
But do you realize that when these shemales take female hormones that their bodies truly start behaving like women's bodies. A lot of shemales can lactate, these "girls" actually produce breast milk. I've seen it myself.
At some point you just can't offhandedly call them "men with tits" because it's not that simple. I would call a transvestite a man (someone who dresses part time as a woman, with no surgical enhancements or hormone therapy). Transsexuals live their lives as women, they have gone through transformations to become as much of a woman as possible.
At some point you have to consider that they aren't men anymore, they aren't women either, but you can't just say it's a man with tits, because at some point during the transformation it's gone way beyond that.
It's a gray area, it's not black and white.
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lou sapphire
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 08:30:00 PM
But remember M.B hormonal changes does not make them anything other than a man with Estrogen..you cannot alter the dna or chromosomes of any male or female. medically its not a grey area theyre men.
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myk
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 09:56:00 PM
A lot of these people don't go through a completion of the transformation. They continue to live in that grey zone. I guess I'd call one whatever s/he asked me to, if I knew one...heck, i might and just not be aware of it.

When determining gender, you have genetic, reproductive, anatomic, and self identity. Its a big continium. In general, born a man, having a penis, having sex with women...that's mostly male, even if you have breasts. Post op, or even pre-op, but with planned 'op', after counseling, I'd go for 'she', tho.

Myk



M.B. wrote:
myk,
I know ultimately a shemale is technically a guy.
But do you realize that when these shemales take female hormones that their bodies truly start behaving like women's bodies. A lot of shemales can lactate, these "girls" actually produce breast milk. I've seen it myself.
At some point you just can't offhandedly call them "men with tits" because it's not that simple. I would call a transvestite a man (someone who dresses part time as a woman, with no surgical enhancements or hormone therapy). Transsexuals live their lives as women, they have gone through transformations to become as much of a woman as possible.
At some point you have to consider that they aren't men anymore, they aren't women either, but you can't just say it's a man with tits, because at some point during the transformation it's gone way beyond that.
It's a gray area, it's not black and white.


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malkira
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Posted - Jan 31 2005 : 12:04:00 PM
It's a fantasy, folks. Lots of us watch things in porn that we'd never want to do in real life. I like watching really sloppy gangbangs, too, but as far as participating in one... ewwwww. I try to avoid generalizations, but I'd probably suspect that someone who goes out of his way to protest his heterosexuality has gay leanings more than I would suspect someone who admits to enjoying shemale porn.
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LCF
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Posted - Jan 31 2005 : 01:55:00 PM


malkira wrote:
It's a fantasy, folks. Lots of us watch things in porn that we'd never want to do in real life. I like watching really sloppy gangbangs, too, but as far as participating in one... ewwwww. I try to avoid generalizations, but I'd probably suspect that someone who goes out of his way to protest his heterosexuality has gay leanings more than I would suspect someone who admits to enjoying shemale porn.

So if someone says he's heterosexual he's hiding his homosexuality and of course if he has fantasies about girl with dicks he's an ordinary male.

Intersting opinion indeed

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malkira
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Posted - Jan 31 2005 : 02:38:00 PM


Laurie Cameron Fan wrote:

So if someone says he's heterosexual he's hiding his homosexuality and of course if he has fantasies about girl with dicks he's an ordinary male.

Intersting opinion indeed


If someone has to go out of his way to deny that he's homosexual, it sometimes makes me suspect that he's trying to overcompensate for some gay tendencies that he's not comfortable with. I'm sure that's not the case with you, though. Not that there would be anything wrong with it if that were the case.

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LCF
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Posted - Jan 31 2005 : 04:10:00 PM


malkira wrote:


Laurie Cameron Fan wrote:

So if someone says he's heterosexual he's hiding his homosexuality and of course if he has fantasies about girl with dicks he's an ordinary male.

Intersting opinion indeed


If someone has to go out of his way to deny that he's homosexual, it sometimes makes me suspect that he's trying to overcompensate for some gay tendencies that he's not comfortable with. I'm sure that's not the case with you, though. Not that there would be anything wrong with it if that were the case.


It is not. but if someday i'll start to find sexually interesting some males i'm sure i'll try this experience but not by now

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MrWiggles
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Posted - Mar 27 2005 : 06:48:00 PM
With me, I don't feel all guys that like shemales are gay. Sometimes the femine side of the female is very real and believable.

I'm a big Jennifer Anison fan. She's really sexy to me. If I found out that she's a shemale I would still find her sexy.

In general, if a shemale is short, cute with no sign of being a guy, accept for the hidden surprise, can come off as sexy to a regular guy. This is especially true if that shemale pushes the button of a specific group. One group being guys into big double DDs, another group into females with small feet in stockings, another group into females that look very innocent while wearing the little schoolgirl skirt etc.

Another side of it relates to a new trend or that "new thing.

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Checkraising Stupid Tourists
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Posted - Mar 27 2005 : 07:22:00 PM
I don't judge anyone for their video preferences, whether or not it's straight, gay, bi, she-male or whatever.

Personally, I don't have any interest in she-male videos. To me, they're men with long hair and boob jobs, and they just don't appeal to me.

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astroknight
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Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 09:46:00 AM
I just watched Joey Silvera's Big Ass She-Male Roadtrip 8 this weekend (review maybe coming next week). I'm not a she-male fan and picked it up simply because Joey is an amazing director and I was curious to see what he could do with a genre that didn't interest me that much. It also didn't hurt that it had Christie Lee in it. After watching it I can't say that I'm really into she-male videos, but I do know that a good director can take something you're not that into and make it interesting enough that it raises the curiosity a little more.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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MrWiggles
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astroknight wrote :
I just watched Joey Silvera's Big Ass She-Male Roadtrip 8 this weekend (review maybe coming next week). I'm not a she-male fan and picked it up simply because Joey is an amazing director and I was curious to see what he could do with a genre that didn't interest me that much. It also didn't hurt that it had Christie Lee in it. After watching it I can't say that I'm really into she-male videos, but I do know that a good director can take something you're not that into and make it interesting enough that it raises the curiosity a little more.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling



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Yes, I feel it's all about the Director. For example, I like Jim Powers style and Henri Pachard style. So if one of them do veer into another genre I will be curious or just buy the DVD.


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faszkivan
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Posted - Oct 14 2005 : 01:26:00 PM
Well why do I like shemales and shemale porn as a totally straight man?

Simple... I like it up the butt! Figured it out by playing around with toys and stuff. Its kinda hard to find a woman that will actually do a man with a strapon. If I find one every once in a (long) while, no doubt Im down for it.

So why shemales then? Because the feel shit when doing me. They just dont shove a dead cold piece of plastic up my butt and do the fake moaning thing. Its much better when both feel pleasure from whats happening. A real cock is warm, and soft and doesnt build up heat by rubbing the anus as a dildo.

I could never ever have sex with a man! NEVER! And I dont give head to shemales... maybe I would in a relationship after a while... but it was all sexual so far. And she has to be very very very feminin to attract me. There are indeed chicks with dicks... and men with tits. There are shemales that look better and more feminin than most women you see in the streets.

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tmd5
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Posted - Oct 21 2005 : 09:18:00 AM
I've never watched she-male porn and never will, ever. But some people say "the women are hot and you can't tell it's really a guy!" But it's STILL a guy. The box covers of them are bad enough. The problem with she-male porn is that it tends to have some dude doing the she-male. Not into that. Sure there is she-male and female porn, but some woman doing the she-male with a strap-on gives me the creeps. Then if I did see some she-male sucking some guy off I'd see no difference between that and gay porn.

Since other people have gotten off topic I will to. I have no problems with seeing some hot girl doing some regular guy with a strap-on. It's just the idea that she'd do something so nasty that's really not "normal" in your everyday porn. Any closeups of the dudes hairy ass and his face i'll pass on. Hell, i've seen women fisting men and I can even stand that, just not closeups, just the idea of it. It's so much better if you don't have to the actual guy.

I saw some preview of "strap attack" and thought it might be something i'd like. Once I saw the men sucking on plastic cocks, I said, no way!! I'd probably like that Jasmine Byrne scene though.

BTW I'm 100% straight. Men even kissing makes me weirded out. But I find lesbians making out so damn hot. I don't hate gay men at all or anything like that. I just haven't been around any ever. I just think it's a normal reaction for me, not having grown up around any or even knowing any.

BTW is there such a thing as a REAL chick with a dick, like someone that was born that way? what's it called? Sorry, I have no clue. Do they have a surgery for woman that want a penis? My wife wanted that done but I told her no way!

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