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The rise and fall of Ideepthroat

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serftewl
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Posted - Aug 7 2008 : 07:06:09 PM
Warning: I'm feeling a bit nostalgic, so this is rather long.

As of August 2008, it's been nearly three and a half years since Ideepthroat.com was updated, and even longer since the posting of any material that wasn't rehashed from previous scenes. Let's reflect on this once-great website that quickly became an institution of internet pornography.

I still remember stumbling upon the work of Heather Harmon (a.k.a. Heather Brooke, thanks to a couple of misguided file-sharers) like it was yesterday. The year was 2000, and the now-legendary amateur star was relegated to a single, poorly-designed web page with two sample clips. One was labeled "deepthroat" and the other "cumshot". Wanting to get a good sense of what this website-in-progress touted, I clicked on the former.
A gorgeous, busty specimen appeared on my screen, enthusiastically sucking a cock, trading between slurps and moans. For the first ten seconds, it seemed like little more than an above-average blowjob clip. Then a voice from an unseen source whispers the command "deepthroat". The rock-hard penis instantly and effortlessly passes down the woman's throat, her nose and the man's stomach making impeccable contact.

I was floored. I instantly scoured the still-youthful internet, looking for more from this Heather girl, but to no avail; the scourge of dial-up and the lack of a reliable file-sharing service offered me nothing. I'd play that thirty-second clip over and over again and pray for an update. I watched the once-basic site blossom into a full-fledged, but unfortunately exclusive website. Sometimes I'd click on the "members only" tab and type in random names and passwords, hoping one of them might hit the mark.
Then came Kazaa and broadband.

The very first word I plugged into Kazaa's search engine was "Ideepthroat". The first result that popped up yielded the famous video that, for many, is as relevant as the birth of one's child. Titled "best blowjob ever", the now ubiquitous Heather strolls in with a dark blue bikini, asking her unseen husband what he's been doing. "Waiting for you", he answers. She drops to her knees, lets out her enormous (fake, but still enticing) breasts to breathe, and gets to work. The cum starts to shoot, at which she instantly takes the entire spewing cock DOWN HER THROAT. Cumming WHILE being deepthroated. My mind was blown. Soon to become a fan-favorite, this feat was to be repeated countless times, almost certainly at husband Jim's urging (seriously, blowing your load down a tight, wet throat?)

The range of this woman's work set a whole new ridiculous standard that the highest-paid porn stars of the day failed to heed. Effortless deepthroating and cum-eating. Anal. Role playing and dress-ups: nurse, business woman, schoolgirl, genie, you name it. And, adding to husband Jim's stature as the most envied man in the free world, threesomes, all involving women as enthusiastic and willing as Heather. One of the partakers in these sessions, Brooke, somehow had her name lost in the world of file-sharing labeling, and the moniker by which many people know Heather, Heather Brooke, became known.

Upon discovering the seedy underbelly of password-hacking, I realized my long-held dream of acquiring access to the member section of Ideepthroat around 2003. By then, file-hosting websites and bit torrent had started to make the rounds, and Heather's entire video collection was scattered around the internet. To have this collection at my disposal and readily await updates? I was a kid in a candy store. But the celebration was short lived.

Many felt that the Heather of 2003/2004 was not like the one they had grown to love. She had inexplicably added larger breast implants to her skinny frame and, even more stupefyingly, collagen injections. The deepthroating action was still all there, but the growing amount of time between updates left an uneasy feeling. Somewhere down the line, updates appeared in the video section touting "recut" editions of past scenes. Soon thereafter, every update was an unabashed repost. In March 2005, all updates seemingly ceased.

The question remains: whatever happened to Heather Harmon? Interviews are sparse; the once-committed Heather rarely, if ever, answers email anymore, even from her paying members. A Wikipedia entry erroneously states that as of 2006, Heather and Jim were expecting a child, putting their careers on hold. However, if you consulted a radio interview from 2002/2003 with the couple from the now-defunct eYada (freely available at the Ideepthroat website), you'll hear them state that they had two children at that point already, aged 2 and 3. Was this "child on the way" claim an error on their part or the interviewer's part? The eYada interview also, however, yielded Heather and Jim's uneasy assertion that the older the kids get, the harder it'll be to keep up their porn careers. Aside from divorce, drug addiction, or even an unreported death, this seems the most likely scenario for why Heather is missing in action.

Years after the end of our beloved deepthroat queen's reign, here's why, in the ever-expanding world of amateur websites and deepthroating, Heather Harmon remains untouchable:

1. The effortless deepthroating. You can go about it anyway you want: "Jim's penis isn't THAT long! It's thinner so it's easier!" etc. The point is, Heather's technique is nearly unmatched in terms of speed, obedience, and effectiveness. The word "deepthroat" has been trampled upon by far too many over-ambitious actresses and porn directors. Much of the "deepthroating" touted nowadays consist of half-erected penises being taken into the mouths, or heads being forced upon the fully-erect. Even the best deepthroat artists need advanced warning before taking a penis to the throat, and this is rarely without a mess of saliva and mascara. No one could respond as quickly and effortlessly to a command than Heather, while leaving as little of a mess as possible. It's really astonishing.

2. The swallow-while-deepthroating trick. Speaking of leaving no mess: there's almost NO ONE out there who can duplicate Heather's signature move. To be completely clear: the penis has to be completely down the performer's throat WHILE ejaculation occurs. Time and time again, I've waited for a certified deepthroat artist like Annette Schwarz or Belladonna to take a load directly into the stomach, but they've always relented and had the product go on their face or mouth. The only other time I've seen this successfully emulated is by Haley Wilde, but this was for one scene only, and it hasn't been done since by her. Perhaps it's the emphasis by directors on the money-shot that prevents this move from being showcased; more importantly, it's probably because no one can touch Heather on this one.

3. The enthusiasm. You want to solve the ever-persistent divorce rate? Watch Heather and Jim in action. The site of a gorgeous, bubbly woman directly looking into the camera, pleading for semen? She looks you in the eye, telling you exactly what she's going to do, in a voice that would surely make men spurt before the actual act takes place. I'm going to let you cum inside my ass. I'm going to give you head in this rubber and drink the cum. You've got four girls giving you head. I'm going to take your dick and balls in my mouth at the same time. It's not only hot, but it's sincere. Which, in turn, makes it more hot.

Eight years, hundreds of mpegs, and an infinite amount of masturbation sessions later, the reign of Heather Harmon continues. In deepthroating, in our minds, and in the image that we wish we could make our girlfriends and wives into.

Heather, if you read this. Please come back. We still need you.

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Edited by - serftewl on Aug 7 2008

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backdoorman
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Posted - Aug 7 2008 : 07:23:09 PM


serftewl wrote:
Warning: I'm feeling a bit nostalgic, so this is rather long. [quote/]

You weren't lying were you ?

Edited by - backdoorman on 8/7/2008 7:23:43 PM

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Jaktarn
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Posted - Aug 8 2008 : 02:23:37 AM
Great post, totally agree with you she is missed!
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Master Bates
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Posted - Aug 8 2008 : 03:56:18 AM
Man, I totally agree. As far as I'm concerned Heather defines deepthroat. That said, They both probably made more than enough $$$ to retire comfortably. As you said, as they went on it kind of lost the magic as they got older. No need to continue.
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Posted - Aug 8 2008 : 05:44:22 AM
I couldn't agree more. I wonder what went wrong and why she just disappeared and left her site to die.
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lenscap
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Posted - Aug 8 2008 : 07:04:13 AM
"The first result that popped up yielded the famous video that, for many, is as relevant as the birth of one's child."

Gezzz...it's just pornography...

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bargin
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Posted - Aug 8 2008 : 07:15:25 AM
I agree, I was also blown away by the cum in throat clip and since that day i have been looking for more clips of that but haven't found anything...
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MissJanet
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Posted - Aug 8 2008 : 08:34:31 AM
What made her stand out for me was her innocence and sweetness. She came across simply as a good wife, trying to please her man, with no didden agenda, no other motives then just that - pleasing him to the best of her abilities. And abilities she surely had!

There is a (supposed) interview online in which she stated that she would not update the site with new material because she is a mom now.

But after reading serftewl's great post you can add me to the people who ask: Whatever happened to Baby Heather?

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LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 8 2008 : 09:05:48 AM


2. The swallow-while-deepthroating trick. Speaking of leaving no mess: there's almost NO ONE out there who can duplicate Heather's signature move. To be completely clear: the penis has to be completely down the performer's throat WHILE ejaculation occurs. Time and time again, I've waited for a certified deepthroat artist like Annette Schwarz or Belladonna to take a load directly into the stomach, but they've always relented and had the product go on their face or mouth. The only other time I've seen this successfully emulated is by Haley Wilde, but this was for one scene only, and it hasn't been done since by her. Perhaps it's the emphasis by directors on the money-shot that prevents this move from being showcased; more importantly, it's probably because no one can touch Heather on this one.


If I were to believe the vast majority of the posters on this board, this type of scene would be classified as "lame" and "lacking proof of the cumshot." This board, if it is at all representative of porn watchers, wants to see evidence of the cumshot and has no problem with watching a male jack himself off to accomplish same.

Which may be why she faded away....deep-throat cumshots may be an "interesting" specialty act, but not appealing to mainstream porn watchers. For me, porn is fantasy anyways and I don't need proof of the cumshot....it's the sex act and the perceived heat of the performers that makes a scene erotic to me. I may be one of the few who isn't timing the on-screen cumshot to a masturbation session but really, I found Heather's DT scenes to be authentic, passionate and very intimate with her husband. THAT is why I subscribed to them for almost 3 years.

If mainstream porn wants that kind of money from me, they'd supply me with what I want. But I've come to the conclusion that I'm not "mainstream" when it comes to porn....I want something different than the masses.

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serftewl
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Posted - Aug 8 2008 : 10:07:13 AM


lenscap wrote:

Gezzz...it's just pornography...


I was just being tongue-and-cheek. If you're gonna call me out on hyperbole, you could've chosen much better.

The rest of you, thanks for the responses.

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Posted - Aug 8 2008 : 09:35:50 PM
That was a good read. You could literally feel the passion and appreciation in every word.

It's amazing that years later, a girl who, in all actuality, did so little in the grand scheme of things, is still so fondly remembered by so many.

And with good reason.

What she did, she did better than nearly anyone else at the time and then left nothing but small samples of her regular oral clinics and memories in her wake after her abrupt and sudden departure. But I wouldn't have it any other way as it only adds to her mystique. It's akin to being around for a certain era that others either don't readily recall or weren't around to witness. If you were watching during the advent of 'net porn back then, chances are you remember Heather's clips just as fondly as the original poster. She was the Amadeus of oral, the Herzog of head, the DaVinci of deep throat. Linda Lovelace could only DREAM of giving blowjobs like this. I personally don't know a soul or fellow stroker whose eyes don't STILL light up at the mention of Heather Brooke (nee Harmon) from iDeepThroat.

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Part urban legend, part cautionary tale, the girl was one of a kind and amazing to watch. "Besides the effortless deep throat, the thing that made her famous is her exceeding enjoyment in the act...you actually see a lot of cheerfulness, enjoyment and unpainted orgasm," wrote one blogger. Cheers to her and her hubby, wherever they are. AVN or XBiz might not know them but because of Brooke's obvious lack of a gag reflex and her delight in that fact, this couple is permanently a part of porno lore who simultaneously helped to usher in and define the beginning of a new age in amateur adult entertainment likely without even realizing it. They were just two kids having fun who wanted to share their joy and special skills with whoever wanted to watch. Alot of people, to this very day, are glad they did.

Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 8/10/2008 2:04:46 AM

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Posted - Aug 8 2008 : 11:26:26 PM
I was watching some of those clips last week, coincidentally, and something occurred to me about Heather and her impact. With the government constantly going after the hardest and most extreme pornographers, the most truly influential and subversive porn was being made by Heather and her husband. Someone like Max Hardcore can dominate a specific niche that consists of 99 and 44/100th percent male viewers, many of whom could never interact with a woman, but Heather represents fun and wholesomeness (even her fake rack can't detract from that perception), providing thrills not only to her male fans, but also a role model for women exposed to her clips. This isn't stuff that has to be kept in a closet, but can be shared and emulated. Heather and her husband epitomized the best of amateur porn and we should all be thankful they shared with us for a few years.
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Posted - Aug 9 2008 : 12:35:35 AM
Heathers Deepthroat skills vs Wifey's tits and love of facials. I havent been able to choose since 02.
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Harri Patel
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Posted - Aug 9 2008 : 01:17:31 AM
serftewl, did you ever actually pay for any of these clips you're raving about, or was it all stolen passwords, kazaa and bit torrent for you? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, the fact that "Heather's entire video collection was scattered around the internet" might have had something to do with the fact that she stopped releasing new scenes?
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Posted - Aug 9 2008 : 05:27:52 AM


Harri Patel wrote:
serftewl, did you ever actually pay for any of these clips you're raving about, or was it all stolen passwords, kazaa and bit torrent for you? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, the fact that "Heather's entire video collection was scattered around the internet" might have had something to do with the fact that she stopped releasing new scenes?


Bingo
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xformyzombie
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Posted - Aug 9 2008 : 04:30:32 PM
I still check out Heather's stuff on youporn. Her enthusiasm for sex and her affection for her man is what always keeps me coming back to her stuff. I have to admit I've not seen her with enhanced boobs which is a good thing. I would rather remember her as the quintessential horny, affectionate girl next door.

Edited by - xformyzombie on 8/9/2008 4:42:52 PM

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sir wankalot
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Posted - Aug 9 2008 : 05:37:30 PM


Harri Patel wrote:
serftewl, did you ever actually pay for any of these clips you're raving about, or was it all stolen passwords, kazaa and bit torrent for you? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, the fact that "Heather's entire video collection was scattered around the internet" might have had something to do with the fact that she stopped releasing new scenes?

I notice the ideepthroat store doesn't ship abroad. Doesn't leave her international customers much choice, does it?

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Harri Patel
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Posted - Aug 10 2008 : 06:11:44 PM
^ I guess you could PayPal some Euros, GBP's, yen, yuan, whatever to them with a note of appreciation, yes?
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sir wankalot
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Posted - Aug 10 2008 : 07:24:35 PM


Harri Patel wrote:
^ I guess you could PayPal some Euros, GBP's, yen, yuan, whatever to them with a note of appreciation, yes?

Not really. I haven't downloaded anything.
I prefer to have footage on dvd and never download porn to keep or join websites.

Sure, i've watched clips on youporn and the like....but i find it hard to 'knock one out' sitting upright in a leather swival chair watching poor picture quality porn straight from the net.

On the strength of what i've seen i'd like to buy the dvd. However, they are only shipping in the US and even then charging a lot of money ($9 for ground shipping....thats what i pay for 5 dvds airmail to the UK!). They'd probably want double that to ship to the UK...and that's what we call 'taking the piss'.

Strange that they have limited their market to the US when the clips are going all round the globe. I first saw a clip on someone's mobile phone. I'd never heard of ideepthroat before this.

Hopefully, someone will be selling their copy on the ADT forum one day. I wonder if the dvd even comes with a cover?

I hope this rant makes sense after the bottle of wine i've consumed!

Edited by - sir wankalot on 8/10/2008 7:25:42 PM

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flip69
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Why not email and ask her what's up with her site? The site is still active and accepts $$.
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serftewl, why didn't you just pay for a membership you cheap fuck? douchebags like you make me sick.
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LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 10:28:34 AM


serftewl wrote:


Upon discovering the seedy underbelly of password-hacking, I realized my long-held dream of acquiring access to the member section of Ideepthroat around 2003. By then, file-hosting websites and bit torrent had started to make the rounds, and Heather's entire video collection was scattered around the internet. To have this collection at my disposal and readily await updates? I was a kid in a candy store. But the celebration was short lived.


I'm very surprised that the mods of this board have allowed a thread to continue when the OP readily admits to content piracy and embraces illegal activities such as theft of service.

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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 11:24:59 AM
The guy's not posting links to illegally download content HERE, so I don't see the big deal nor a reason to close/lock the thread. Geez.

The poor guy's thread is expressing his admiration for a girl and her site, not promoting piracy. Focus. As if all of you have NEVER used a file sharing program and legally purchased EVERY single piece of pornography you've ever laid your eyes on. Give him a break.

Posting links to files is one thing but last I checked, it wasn't a thread-locking, ban-able offense, to admit that you once used a file-sharing program or stolen passwords to download some five-minute bj clips. With everything he wrote, that's ALL you got out of it?

Get the sticks out of your asses already.

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LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 11:39:23 AM
CJ, he said he used illegal passwords to gain access to her ENTIRE library and used it to obtain same.

Get the sticks out of our asses? How about you learn to understand what constitutes "fair use" instead?

For the record, I have ZERO pirated works in my porn library, pay for my website subscriptions and go on record as stating that porn should be obtained via legal means only. As a respected reviewer of porn I'm surprised you'd defend piracy in any fashion. That said, if you saw my earlier post in this thread, I _DID_ read his whole post, I recognize the points he made but also condemn that those points were made after he illegally gained access and stole content that he should have paid for instead. That's like me saying "Wow, you sure have great taste in cars!" to someone caught breaking into an automobile dealership.

If you wish to defend piracy, be my guest. How about I start taking all your reviews and posting them on my blog without giving you any credit for writing them? After all, it's your content in the reviews that's important, and it matters not that I credit your work effort for writing them, correct?

Edited by - lubenluv on 8/11/2008 11:40:42 AM

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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 11:54:31 AM
I wasn't defending piracy. I've subscribed and continue to subscribe to my fair share of websites over the years. All I'm saying is: he's not posting illegal links to stolen content here, so I don't see why this thread should be locked or the user banned. That's even if what he says is true, which you have no way of proving.

My point is, I'd rather see this thread stay on course and continue with more talk about Heather Brooke, not turn into a discussion/debate about "fair use" or how the OP managed to obtain her iDeepThroat movies. That's the only thing I'm defending. Yes, he saw her through illegal means. I'm not saying to forgive him for it. But does that mean that's all we have to focus on instead of actually staying on topic? Can you come down off your high horse for two seconds and praise the girl (which was supposed to be the point) instead of choosing to kill the messenger? Look at my post. Look at picman's. I think your energy is severely misguided.

As far as stealing my work, feel free. You wouldn't be the first nor will you be the last. Plagarism is another subject entirely and my work isn't my work anyway. It belongs to ADT. I've seen my work posted elsewhere (ALOT of places, actually) and it bothers me none. I'm not losing a dime. It's a hobby. I do it for the love here, I don't get paid and the more exposure the better (which I imagine, was probably Heather and Jim's exact outlook regarding their exploits, too but that's speculation, of course).

If ADT were a paysite, you acquired my reviews illegally and decided to post on another messageboard, not my actual reviews but rather about how much you enjoyed them, I'd be more focused on your appreciation of my work, not how you obtained it. And that's exactly how I feel about this thread.

Some people can't see the forest for the trees and have nothing better to do than to complain about everything all the time. I'm not condoning this guy's behavior but I am being realistic. I know he's not the only ADT member to illegally download something, be it music, movies, software, whatever. I just shoot straight, man. Maybe that's why I'm the "respected" reviewer you seem to think I am.

Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 8/11/2008 12:05:28 PM

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LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 12:04:05 PM


Crucifixio_Jones wrote:

Some people can't see the forest for the trees and have nothing better to do than to complain about everything all the time.

Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 8/11/2008 11:56:30 AM


I don't need to prove anything CJ. The poster said it's true and if you believe everything else he wrote then you have to believe that also. What bothers me the most is this isn't concerning some "big" porn distribution company like EA, Vivid or such. This was an amateur wife (or so we were led to believe) who ran her own website intent on receiving full value for posting vids of she and hubby having sex. It's not some faceless act of piracy, but a blatant act of theft of service with intent to deprive Heather and Hubby from gaining any revenue for their posting their own work.

But back on topic...I've already commented on her work (8th post down).

Edited by - lubenluv on 8/11/2008 12:07:59 PM

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LubeNLuv wrote:
I don't need to prove anything CJ. The poster said it's true and if you believe everything else he wrote then you have to believe that also.


I don't buy that particular logic but okay. I believe he saw the girl and he liked her enough to start a thread. That was good enough for me. I never asked you to prove anything and I wouldn't ask him, either. Just because I believe he has a serious hard-on for a chick doesn't necessarily mean I HAVE to believe the how or anything else. Thanks for playing.
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It's not some faceless act of piracy, but a blatant act of theft of service with intent to deprive...


Yeah, I'm sure that's EXACTLY what he set out to do. And here I thought most filesharers were simply focused on their own entertainment and hey, here's an idea, are just horny fucks who wanna jerk off. Who downloads mp3s because they want to hear the music? No, people do it because deep down inside they want to hurt the corporation. POWER TO THE PEOPLE and DAMN THE MAN!

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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 12:18:03 PM
"Yes, he saw her through illegal means."
I'd be willing to bet that a LOT of people first saw her via file-sharing, or other unpaid-for downloads... Maybe it's fair to say that she was one of the first (If not -the- first) internet-porn-meme?

I know the first time I saw her, I thought I had died and that there was a heaven after all... and it was totally "The swallow-while-deepthroating trick" that did it for me... It fulfilled a niche I'm not sure I knew I had before I saw her do it....

Wherever she is, I wish her (And hers) all the best!

"serftewl" +1000 for a GREAT thread! Nice one!

Edited by - NewRomancer on 8/11/2008 12:18:43 PM

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LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 12:19:55 PM
CJ, again, I'm surprised at how far you'll go to rationalize this guys' behavior. You can take away "respected" from my description of you. You likely don't care as I'm one of a gazillion. But I truly can't condone this guys actions or your defense of same. High horse? You betcha. When I download an MP3 it's because I'm interested in the subject matter. And maybe because I'm old-school, but my downloads are from iTunes. I believe in paying for what I enjoy and my purchases are a sign of respect and appreciation for the work effort. Call me stupid, call me naive, call me whatever you want. But don't call me wrong for standing up for what is right. There is a line and he crossed it. You are welcome to believe that line is invisible or not even relevant. I believe it is.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

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LubeNLuv wrote:
CJ, again, I'm surprised at how far you'll go to rationalize this guys' behavior. You can take away "respected" from my description of you. But I truly can't condone this guys actions or your defense of same.


Ok, last post to you, LNL:

I'm not rationalizing or condoning. I'm simply choosing to not focus on it. Instead, I'd rather just talk about Heather Brooke. You'd rather do otherwise. That's your choice. Enjoy your time here ---> , who cares if no one's listening?

On a more serious note, I was sorry to see that apparently you no longer respect me for whatever reason. Reading those words truly stung. But to show what a good guy I am and to make ammends, here's what I'll do: if you'd be kind enough to PM or email me your mailing address I will ship to you, free of charge, a nice brand-spanking new big shiny soup spoon.

So you can eat my ass if we ever meet.

Have a nice day.

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"I'd rather just talk about Heather Brooke"
Second best post in this whole thread!

I see there's no Wiki on her any more...

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serftewl
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 05:39:26 PM
Man, some of you need to chill the fuck out.

I was 15 fucking years old when I came across the site. I didn't even update to a debit card (from a bank card) until I was 19! So, for those first four tumultuous years, sorry---I wasn't gonna swipe my Mom or Dad's credit card and have "Ideepthroat Inc." show up on the statement just so I could get my rocks off a few extra times a week.

As for the password-hacking/sharing: yes, I realize the moral implications of that. I assure you that it went no farther than Heather's site. Chalk this one up to me discovering the joys of IRC, college-speed broadband, and a 40-gig hard drive all in the same week. When you're a college kid in a fit of horniness, you don't send away for a DVD and wait three to five days. You take action.

Lube, I won't help you off your high horse, but I'll gladly cut you down from your cross. The fact that you think I'm trying to intentionally DEFRAUD these people shows how hilariously out-of-touch you are. You took sentences from my post that were supposed to serve ONLY as anecdotes highlighting my youth, and you turned me into some kind of frothing-at-the-mouth thief.

I respect your "piracy-free" smut collection and all of its intentions, but make this claim among anybody born from around 1980 onwards, and you'll find yourself an extreme rarity. Not ONE questionably-downloaded scene? I'm not endorsing stealing, but do you really think ANYONE coming of age around the end of the millennium is gonna recount how they saw their first porn by paying or sending away for it? No. They'll say how they stayed up late watching scrambled Spice, or downloaded tons of free smut from Kazaa. If getting porn for free some or most of the time makes someone a thief, then you better lock up 95% of people who like to stroke off. Welcome to the 21st century.

And, just to keep in tune with your iTunes/legal downloading analogy, how about the people who spent the latter part of the 1990's downloading from Napster, then PURCHASING the albums afterward, thanks to the opportunity of previewing what they were getting? How do you know my downloading habits weren't part of a quest to later go legit? That said, I actually HAVE subscribed to MANY adult websites: Thestall.com, Bangbros, etc. This probably wouldn't have happened had I not sampled their selections first via file-sharing/bit torrent.

Crucifixio, I thank you for your tireless defense. You clearly got what I was talking about. No need to call me "poor guy", though; I'm not the least bit hurt by these wild accusations, and I'm glad mostly everyone else was able to take part in this thread's ORIGINAL intent: celebrating Heather Harmon and her endless throat.

Edited by - serftewl on 8/11/2008 8:00:08 PM

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Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 08:04:08 PM
My respect remains intact! And not just from Canadians!

The UK loves CJ, too.

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cobalt60
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 08:06:52 PM
serftewl: I admire the passion and sincerity of your original post. You have captured a visceral love of life that speaks to me in ways that make me glad we are on the same planet at the same time.

To you!

And to Hell with your detractors.

Sound your barbaric YAWP, mofo, and damn the torpedoes! Heather is a phenomenon, and I couldn't have said 'why' better myself. Great post!

Your contribution is most welcome. Ignore the haters. They get what they deserve out of life, their sanctimony be damned. If I had a dollar to spend on a porn site, and had never heard of Heather, I would spend it to see what so proudly you hail.

Your homage would be payment enough in the eyes of some who place value on things other than lucre. When I was actively acting I would perform for free for the applause and accolades of people whom I respect and admire. Illegitimus non carborundum!

Carry on.

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LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 08:10:42 PM

I realize that you may have no qualms about what you did. I realize MOST people have no qualms about hacking commercial websites to gain unauthorized access to copyrighted materials. I realize that you were a kid accessing a porn site. I realize that to you, since everyone is doing something, being a lemming is just fine so you copy them due to a complete lack of personal integrity and responsibility. That's you....that's fine.

I hope you realize that you, and the millions like you, who continue to rationalize your actions are legally defrauding content providers. And this can persuade them to quit producing their content, depriving you of more of it. You, and all the other kids with too much time alone on their daddy's computer, are as much to blame for the disappearance of unique and differentiated content such as Heather's.

Look it up kiddo....

Defraud: intentional deception to cause a person to give up property or some lawful right

Did you type in a username/pass that wasn't yours? Or did someone force you to do so? If you did it willfully and with intent to gain access to materials on her website to which you weren't entitled, you had intent to defraud. Period. The fact that you anxiously waited updates for what appears to be months if not a full year means you did this repeatedly.

Rationalize it all you want. The difference between you and I isn't the height of my horse. It's the recognition of right from wrong. As long as the website has a "members enter here" and a credit card billing system, the site is no different than any other storefront. The owner is entitled to full compensation for their works. Defend that if you can....but to call me out as the "bad guy" here is laughable and speaks of your immaturity.

Edited by - lubenluv on 8/11/2008 8:12:11 PM

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serftewl
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 09:10:18 PM

And the lols keep coming.

a) I did NONE of the hacking myself---it was requested in the IRC chatroom known as #asp. The password lasted a few months, or the duration of my "anxiously awaiting updates".

b) You're a porn reviewer, dude. You've got some balls to accuse me---or anyone else here, for that matter---of spending "too much time alone".

c) I clearly stated that this flirtation with password-requesting was brief. YES, I QUESTIONABLY OBTAINED A PASSWORD TO A PORN SITE ONE TIME. I'M SORRY. Not only do you completely side-step my entire point about the logistics and influence of FILE-SHARING, then you laughably try to make out password-stealing as some kind of national epidemic! It's bad enough that swiping one password apparently certifies me as a "hacker", but there are "millions" like me? You can't be this naive, can you? Do you seriously think your average high-school/college kid is spending every free afternoon trying to crack security barriers? Hell, they're not even skilled enough to find OTHER people to do it FOR them! Password-cracking rooms on IRC, the last time I checked, were built to accommodate only a few hundred people at a time---and they were rarely ever filled when I was around. Your estimate of "millions" is off by...well, millions.

And if you try to magically re-assert your diatribe on hacking and stealing as an attack on file-sharing, I really have no words. That doesn't make you old-school. It just makes you old.


Edited by - serftewl on 8/11/2008 9:15:53 PM

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backdoorman
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Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 09:16:34 PM
Does this mean this thread is officially derailed ?
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Royal Tee
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 09:49:46 PM
LOL, Yeah i was 16 when i discovered this site too. If it wasn't for file sharing i would have no idea who the hell she is.
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Bornyo
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 10:48:06 PM
This thread isn't officially derailed. To say that will make bonehead-one lock it or something equally stupid.

Heather is as important in internet porn as "Wifey".

They created the model and remain at the top of the heap.

edit: I was thinking about someone else.

Edited by - Bornyo on 8/11/2008 11:22:37 PM

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cobalt60
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 11:00:05 PM
Heather, Boneyo. Her name is Heather.
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skronker
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Posted - Aug 11 2008 : 11:22:59 PM


cobalt60 wrote:
serftewl: I admire the passion and sincerity of your original post. You have captured a visceral love of life that speaks to me in ways that make me glad we are on the same planet at the same time.

To you!

And to Hell with your detractors.

Sound your barbaric YAWP, mofo, and damn the torpedoes! Heather is a phenomenon, and I couldn't have said 'why' better myself. Great post!



Brings a tear to my eye. F*ck the haters. I don't doubt for a second that Heather and her hubby got paid for their pleasure. Especially being so early on the block. Great stuff!

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rob2
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Posted - Aug 12 2008 : 12:28:07 AM
What an excellent thread and a really great opener on her too. I always wondered why other deepthroaters out there, you know a few I'm sure, did not emulate this move as well, it seems like a no brainer in retrospect and it is hotter than hell. Her scene doing that (I'm seeing it in my mind right now) is one of the very few I have EVER seen taking it balls deep when the guy comes, and I have been scouring smut for a long long time. Why then is it so rare? Because they want to show a pop in the face or on the tongue? I mean we know it happened, mix it up a bit y'know?
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NewRomancer
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Posted - Aug 12 2008 : 03:16:55 AM
Bartender... Send lubenluv a large vinegar-and-water with a double bran-muffin-chaser, and put it on my tab would ya?

Can we all get back to the joy now?

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Rosseau
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Posted - Aug 20 2008 : 07:49:10 AM
I'm afraid I'm with LubeNLuv on this issue. Serftewl can rationalize his actions all he wants - "I was young", "I had no credit card", "I didn't hack the site myself" -, but that doesn't make them right.

Piracy is a real problem, especially for niche content producers who don't make a lot of money, anyway. I know this from personal experience. A lot of small websites and movie producers I know (or used to know) have gone out of business, not because their work was unpopular, but simply because it was constantly stolen and illegally shared on the internet. So they just get frustrated and give it up.

The irony is that guys like serftewl destroy the sort of content they like, and they don't even realize it. He obviously doesn't think that he did anything wrong. Instead, he's here making a "nostalgic" post, wondering why the girl he liked so much stopped producing videos...

Edited by - Rosseau on 8/20/2008 7:54:50 AM

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ChodeMasterJ
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Posted - Aug 20 2008 : 07:52:50 AM
sometimes i wonder if piracy will be the undoing of the US economy?

the same way i wonder about whether or not the net amount of energy in the universe is zero, but that's just a thought that I haven't bothered to look into because I'm probably wrong and stuff. just saying.

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Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Aug 20 2008 : 06:15:52 PM


Rosseau wrote:
I'm afraid I'm with LubeNLuv on this issue.


I don't think anyone here was against him. But this thread isn't about piracy, it's about Heather, so I just wanted to keep it on track.
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phatbasey
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Posted - Sep 5 2008 : 03:55:38 PM
So...is it dead site or not anyone still subscribe or know when the last updates were?
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Everett
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Posted - Sep 6 2008 : 03:58:39 PM
Mod edit: helping people get for free what they're supposed to be paying for is not encouraged, nor permitted, here at ADT. Don't ever do it again.

Edited by - killbillvol69 on 9/6/2008 4:23:48 PM

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Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Sep 6 2008 : 05:58:03 PM
YES!!!

killbillvol69 FINALLY puts on the moderator spandex!!!


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killbillvol69
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Posted - Sep 6 2008 : 06:39:41 PM
^Nice, CJ! But why no clip where she's actually wearing the spandex?

(I know, I know, I'm never happy...)

I've always wondered why she didn't kill Elle. I would've. Hee-yah!

[edit: oh, and you're late to the party. I've already laid down the heavy hand of justice, to varying degrees of heaviness, a few times around the different threads.]

Edited by - killbillvol69 on 9/6/2008 6:41:10 PM

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