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All Forums > Shopping Info > Shopping Info Forum Page 9 > Using Gift VISA cards for internet porn
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genuinewalnut
New Member

4 Posts
5/09
Posted - May 16 2009 : 5:53PM
I am new and was wondering if one can use VISA gift cards to pay for internet porn - keeping your name and location unknown? And if so, any recommendations for good reliable hardcore BDSM sites?

thanks
jimmy

HeyNow
Oblivious Moderator

Forced smile.
22231 Posts
1/03
Posted - May 16 2009 : 11:23PM
I had asked this exact same question a couple of summers ago. Link to that topic - I guess it worked that time and another time with an AmEx gift card. Haha, don't have an answer to the next question.
ninja1
Senior Member

3161 Posts
1/08
Posted - May 25 2009 : 3:49PM
HeyNow
I read that other thread; it seems you still had to give real (not fake) personal details in order to activate the gift card. And all online purchases I've ever done make you give an address, which I assume is part of the verication process to help ensure the card-user is the card-owner. If jimmy's goal is to be anonymous in his porn dealings, then the answer to his question is "no".

Just like you can't anonymously get a "disposable" cellphone in spite of how the TV criminals do it all the tine.

HeyNow
Oblivious Moderator

Forced smile.
22231 Posts
1/03
Posted - May 26 2009 : 10:15PM
Yea, I guess it might not work then.

Surely someone will say something around here about that.

genuinewalnut
New Member

4 Posts
5/09
Posted - May 26 2009 : 10:25PM
surely there are ways to pay for online sites with something and keep your personal info and address out of the equation? How would they "validate" a gift visa card? The whole idea, is it has a set amount of dollars, they can either take it in the transaction or not. If they get it, they give you the pass, and if not, they cut you off. ???????

Anyway, would love to hear if there is a way, and some recommended hardcore BDSM sites to visit with it.

thx

ninja1
Senior Member

3161 Posts
1/08
Posted - May 27 2009 : 12:37PM
I have investigated this in the past (1-2 years ago), and did "extensive" research; I think visa gift cards are treated the same as prepaid VISA cards. I planned to to get a prepaid card at one of the local loanshark/checkcashing places, thinking it would be convenient to stop by their location whenever I wanted to add cash to the card balance. I was willing the pay the outrageous $20-30 annual fee and $1-2 per-transaction fee in exchange for anonymity. But alas you still have to provide personal information in order to activate the card. Just handing over the cash is not sufficient. I think it is due to the "Homeland Security" issue; the govt. doesn't want people to have the ability to anonymously move money around for possibly nefarious purposes. Either that, or the issuing banks don't trust their own accounting system, and they need a way to find you if their system accidentally approves a $499 purchase when you have only a $2 balance.
warrenwest67
Senior Member

Thanks for the mammaries.
1314 Posts
1/07
Posted - May 27 2009 : 4:14PM
I am in the middle of this mess right now. I have used Prepaid gift card many times for website memberships as well as purchases of DVD's. I tried to join Brazzers yesterday (for the 5th time). But this time no one can figure out why my card wont go thru. The bank says I need to set up an identity fr the card... Did that on there website. still nothing. The bank said to call Brazzers and ask them to put it in manually. Tried that. They could not figure out why the card didnt work. All this after I had joined 4 other times in the past w/ a gift card w/ no problems.

So I tried to go to Adult DVD Empire and order some DVD's and am getting problems there too. That is still pending. I have bought from them in the past w/ no problems.

No wonder sales are down for theses companies. I wish I could find out if the rules have changed. I am about to kick in my screen.

And Jimmy, I like Sex and Submission for BDSM.

ninja1
Senior Member

3161 Posts
1/08
Posted - May 27 2009 : 4:46PM

warrenwest67 wrote:
They could not figure out why the card didnt work. All this after I had joined 4 other times in the past w/ a gift card w/ no problems.
Were the previous uses with the same gift card and/or same bank? Each bank sets its own rules. Maybe your bank doesn't allow internet purchases and the employees you're dealing with don't know it.
warrenwest67
Senior Member

Thanks for the mammaries.
1314 Posts
1/07
Posted - May 27 2009 : 7:30PM
You know ninja1, it is a different bank...I had not thought of that. This one is a Vanilla Visa. The DVD purchase may be going thru. Its been a few hours and no bad news yet so.... But I think I will try another card next time. "Gift to go" cards worked before.
Jacco
Your Choice

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
5189 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 28 2009 : 12:04AM


warrenwest67 wrote:

No wonder sales are down for theses companies. I wish I could find out if the rules have changed. I am about to kick in my screen.


Actually, the rules are set by the banks and creditcard companies, as a merchant you have no influence whatsoever.

Jacco

warrenwest67
Senior Member

Thanks for the mammaries.
1314 Posts
1/07
Posted - May 28 2009 : 8:42AM
Well its official, the card was rejected @ DVD Empire again. So I am going to another store, and looking for the card I used to use. I will try to use this Vanilla Visa to pay for the new one. Then start all over.
Jacco
Your Choice

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
5189 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 28 2009 : 9:46AM
Try a non VISA one if possible, VISA USA has been getting more and more anti adult in the last years.

Jacco

ORGAZMIK
Member

Switzerland
190 Posts
3/01
Posted - May 28 2009 : 1:18PM
These credit card companies become more and more a pain in the ass. Visa and Mastercard basically have a monopoly and use their position to screw clients and merchants at the same time. It all became very untransparent. And as Jacco already mentioned, adult businesses are treated like criminals but since they bring them good money they are being tolerated.

On one side they want to reduce internet fraud and ask merchants for example to be careful if a client uses multiple cards. At the same time they put out these gift cards and in some countries have the customer generate one-time numbers for internet use.

The result is more merchants refuse clients because they fall through security without reason. And more clients will leave a seller just because of ridiculously unidentifyable acceptance issues--like we see in this thread.

To answer the original question: I have an unregistered VISA gift card here that I bought in a regular store in the US. I am (as a merchant) able to charge it. So in general they work.

-Peach

warrenwest67
Senior Member

Thanks for the mammaries.
1314 Posts
1/07
Posted - May 28 2009 : 2:18PM
Problem resolved by using the "Vanilla Visa" to buy another banks visa(Gift2go). It cost another 4.95 fee. But I am set up @ Brazzers. Now I did go straight to there website (Gift2go.net) and registered the card in my name before I tried to use it. That may be a factor as well. But I learned lot this go around.

Thanks to everyone on this thread for the advice. I was ready to pull out my hair but your information made me think it thru. I wouldnt know where else t turn.

Jacco- I already bought the new visa before I saw your post. Thanks anyway.

Ninja1- You had it right I think by trying a different bank card- thanks.

Jacco
Your Choice

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
5189 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 28 2009 : 4:30PM
To make things even more complicated, there are various types of VISA cards, some of which can't be used online, some which can't be used for payments in foreign currency, but for the customer it is not easy to tell the difference, there is no visual difference, just a difference in how it works. Then there are various extra security schemes, which differ by bank.
We have a lot of customers who phone in their orders, so we see all these issues.

It's a bloody mess.

Jacco

genuinewalnut
New Member

4 Posts
5/09
Posted - May 30 2009 : 9:33PM
OK, I was able to get into one of the KINK.COM sites with a gift VISA. Now, I see I can look at clips or stream full videos. Is there any way to download and save and then view at my convenience, as the streaming is a bit of a pain, and the sections to windows media player do not save, or do they?

Any help would be appreciated, I am kinda new at this.

thx

ninja1
Senior Member

3161 Posts
1/08
Posted - May 31 2009 : 12:12PM
That sort of question belongs in the Tech Talk section of the forum. It's much more likely to get seen and answered there, than here. It likely has already been discussed there. Try the search function.
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