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What is a "PRE-OP" Transexual ?

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ShiWarrior
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Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 10:54:00 AM
ive heard and seen pics etc of Transx. but Pre op ? not too sure what this means, but i was looking at some images just now, i thought shes nice, and it turns out shes a pre-op... Regards & Thanks, ShiWarrior - - BIG Breast Fan - - Edited by - shiwarrior on Mar 18 2005
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Kimi Lixx
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Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 11:38:00 AM
Pre-op male = boobies + penis
Pre-op female = female usually on hormone therapy, frequently with more body and facial hair than usual for a woman.
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ShiWarrior
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Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 11:44:00 AM


Kimi Lixx wrote:
Pre-op male = boobies + penis
Pre-op female = female usually on hormone therapy, frequently with more body and facial hair than usual for a woman.

i thought Transexual meant boobies + penis ? Is that the same as a pre op male then?

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Kimi Lixx
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Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 11:52:00 AM
Transsexual means they have completely made the transition from one gender to the other. Pre-op transsexual means they are in the middle of the process but have not yet had the final operation(s).
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ShiWarrior
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Kimi Lixx wrote:
Transsexual means they have completely made the transition from one gender to the other. Pre-op transsexual means they are in the middle of the process but have not yet had the final operation(s).

ok, so how do us (the veiwer) see/know the differences ?

this is who i am looking at :

http://www.farrahsfantasies.moonfruit.com/

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GaySatyr
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Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 01:05:00 PM
Essentially a pre-op transsexual male-to-female is taking hormones, has breasts, is living pretty much all the time as a female, but still has a fully-functional penis.

Many transsexual male-to-females still have a somewhat manly look, even years after the operations. Some are exceptionally believable as women. The only way you can tell for sure is a glimpse at their "equipment."

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lindi
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Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 03:10:00 PM
ShiWarrior -- a full "male to female" transexual would have taken the hormones to develop breasts, would have lived daily life as a woman, and then would have proceeded to have the penis surgically removed and had some of the female organs (vagina and labia) surgically constructed (though no uterus and ovaries, so it would not be possible to have kids after the operation).

A lot of transexuals never have the operation, they just stay at the 'pre-op' stage.

There are also "female to male" transexuals; I suspect you are not interested in those.

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ShiWarrior
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Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 05:30:00 PM


lindi wrote:
ShiWarrior -- a full "male to female" transexual would have taken the hormones to develop breasts, would have lived daily life as a woman, and then would have proceeded to have the penis surgically removed and had some of the female organs (vagina and labia) surgically constructed (though no uterus and ovaries, so it would not be possible to have kids after the operation).

A lot of transexuals never have the operation, they just stay at the 'pre-op' stage.

There are also "female to male" transexuals; I suspect you are not interested in those.


ah!

Thanks Lindi!

no offence to Kimi and co. but your explanations are good, and it hit other areas, but Lindi's reply, hit the nail on the head (or is it tounge?) and now i understand
but when you see a porn film with Transexuals, tey are mostlly pre-op stage then?

thank you all


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Edited by - shiwarrior on 3/18/2005 5:30:54 PM

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Valentino
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Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 06:30:00 PM

ShiWarrior wrote:
but when you see a porn film with Transexuals, tey are mostlly pre-op stage then?

Yes, but there are a few films out there with a post-op.

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lindi
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Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 07:35:00 PM
ShiWarrior -- when guys discuss tranny films, they are talking about pre-op trannies, 'chicks with dicks,' who are born male, and have taken the hormones.

Edited by - lindi on 3/18/2005 7:37:05 PM

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Kimi Lixx
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Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 02:52:00 AM


no offence to Kimi and co. but your explanations are good, and it hit other areas, but Lindi's reply, hit the nail on the head

I answered the question I thought you were asking "What is a pre-op?". I didn't realize the question you needed answered was "How do I know if there is still a penis involved?".

As for http://www.farrahsfantasies.moonfruit.com/ - did you read the "All About Farrah" page? She states very clearly that she is "fully-functional" with "8 inches" and "can play both roles in the bedroom" - ummm... what did you think these things meant?

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ShiWarrior
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Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 04:22:00 AM


Kimi Lixx wrote:


no offence to Kimi and co. but your explanations are good, and it hit other areas, but Lindi's reply, hit the nail on the head

I answered the question I thought you were asking "What is a pre-op?". I didn't realize the question you needed answered was "How do I know if there is still a penis involved?".

As for http://www.farrahsfantasies.moonfruit.com/ - did you read the "All About Farrah" page? She states very clearly that she is "fully-functional" with "8 inches" and "can play both roles in the bedroom" - ummm... what did you think these things meant?


Thanks Kimi, i suppose it was the way you worded it.

That website, i think shes a "pre op male>female transx" ?

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Ivory
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Valentino wrote:

Yes, but there are a few films out there with a post-op.


Valentino, are these fetish titles? Do they put a speculum into the neovagina so you can see there is no cervix? I can't tell the difference between a post-op MTF transsexual's external genitalia and a (drat, what is the preferred term?) biological, non-transsexual female's, so I am curious as to what the angle on these films is.

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Valentino
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Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 04:07:00 PM

Ivory wrote:


Valentino wrote:

Yes, but there are a few films out there with a post-op.


Valentino, are these fetish titles? Do they put a speculum into the neovagina so you can see there is no cervix? I can't tell the difference between a post-op MTF transsexual's external genitalia and a (drat, what is the preferred term?) biological, non-transsexual female's, so I am curious as to what the angle on these films is.


First of all, they are EXTREMELY rare in my experience.
They aren't fetish titles. The post-op is just like an 'extra treat'on the film, the emphasis is not on her.
Of course there are some 'pussy shots', but the dicks in the scene get more attention.

On the Post-op TS films I've seen, there were no speculums involved. As for the differemce in genitalia, I have seen a Post-op with somewhat larger clitoris, but that is one the deficiencies that can occur after a first operation. They'll usually get fixed not too long after that.


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Ivory
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Valentino wrote:

On the Post-op TS films I've seen, there were no speculums involved.


Thanks for the info. I personally think it would be an interesting sight, if anyone ever shoots it. Not as a turn on, but just because it'd be fascinating.

Actually, I think it would be even more interesting to see an explicit/hardcore documentary where you see a pre-op have sex, then see her after her surgery having sex.

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Valentino
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Posted - Mar 21 2005 : 07:45:00 PM
Ivory, looking at the current development in tv-land, I don't think that you have to wait very long to see that.

You made me curious though. Why the interest?

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Ivory
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Valentino wrote:
Ivory, looking at the current development in tv-land, I don't think that you have to wait very long to see that.

You made me curious though. Why the interest?

''All power corrupts, but we need the electricity. ''


Hmmm...I spent several introspective moments (now my brain friggin' hurts !) trying to figure this out. Basically, the fact of one person transforming himself (to a herself) in such an extreme manner, and being willing to let others see the journey, would be the reason.

Also, I would find the reverse (FTM) interesting as well. I know there is a movie Trannyfags about FTMs who are sexually into men, but I don't think any of the stars of the movie have had a phalloplasty. At any rate, I haven't seen it (yet, maybe someday.)

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croy
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Posted - Mar 25 2005 : 04:10:00 AM
"Pre-Op" Transexual:
fun for everyone?
Sexually speaking, a univeral plug/adaptor?
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ShiWarrior
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Posted - Mar 25 2005 : 08:34:00 AM


croy wrote:
"Pre-Op" Transexual:
fun for everyone?
Sexually speaking, a univeral plug/adaptor?

haha

sounds good
"universal plug adaptor!" - i like that

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Valentino
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Posted - Mar 25 2005 : 06:52:00 PM
@ Ivory
Surely there must have been some MTF documentary. I do have a 6 min. vid of such an operation, that can be downloaded here

''Nature never deceives us; it is we who deceive ourselves. ''


Edited by - Valentino on 3/26/2005 9:43:38 PM

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Ivory
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Valentino,
Thanks for the info, but I am super-squeamish about watching actual surgeries. My grandfather was a surgeon, but I didn't inherit his temperament!
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croy
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Ivory, I seem to remember a Lana Woods who was a post-op transexual. She was in Kinky Debutante Interviews 1 . I think she did a gang-bang. She was in some other movies too, but that was the VHS era and I don't remember the others. She did some photo layouts for Private , can't say which magazine title of theirs.

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Valentino
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Posted - Mar 26 2005 : 10:06:00 PM
Once again @ Ivory (you certainly are in the center of attention today)

I do know a TS who can be seen as pre-op and as post-op; having sex. The post-op scene gives you a good image of her enlarged clitoris.

Do you want to know about the movies?

''Nature never deceives us; it is we who deceive ourselves. ''

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The Gemologist
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Posted - Mar 27 2005 : 10:01:00 AM


Valentino wrote:
Once again @ Ivory (you certainly are in the center of attention today)

I do know a TS who can be seen as pre-op and as post-op; having sex. The post-op scene gives you a good image of her enlarged clitoris.

Do you want to know about the movies?

''Nature never deceives us; it is we who deceive ourselves. ''


Tell us, Valentino.

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Valentino
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Posted - Mar 27 2005 : 11:57:00 AM
Her name is Gina . She can be seen as a pre-op on many films (Like TS Gangbangers #2 or Tranny Sylvanians for instance) and as a post op on Transsexual Heart Breakers #2.

I also remember that she was on a episode of Playboy TV's Sex Court (as a pre-op).

Except for a few photo sets, I haven't seen anything of her afters TSHB #2.

''Nature never deceives us; it is we who deceive ourselves. ''

Edited by - Valentino on 3/27/2005 11:58:01 AM

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-lunacy-
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Posted - Mar 27 2005 : 09:29:00 PM
I dated a pre-op TG, male to female, I loved it. Course I'm bi so to me that makes perfect sense.
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Valentino
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Posted - Mar 27 2005 : 09:36:00 PM
Glad to have you back posting again -lunacy-. It's been a while...

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croy
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