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SexyHard
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Posted - Aug 24 2007 : 3:41PM
Well? What is it?

Cumwhipper
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Posted - Aug 24 2007 : 5:27PM
Gokkun - all the cum is swallowed, by definition.
Bukkake - The girl is covered in cum, but doesn't necessarily then consume it at the end of the scene.

Both genres were pretty much invented by the Japanese, and they have the best bukkake and gokkun stuff ever made, IMHO

studioline
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8/07
Posted - Aug 25 2007 : 5:13AM
I don't understand what's with the Japanese and their bukkake and gokkun. I mean what's sexy in seeing 40 men abuse a girl by ejaculating on her eyes and nose and ears?

I don't understand what's the deal with the German's and their piss and scat. I mean what's sexy in seeing the body waste which is full of dangerous and toxic bacterias which cause hundreds of diseases and infections?

Edited by - studioline on 8/25/2007 5:43:30 AM

RandomPrecision
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Dookie?
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Posted - Aug 25 2007 : 8:36AM


studioline wrote:
I don't understand what's with the Japanese and their bukkake and gokkun. I mean what's sexy in seeing 40 men abuse a girl by ejaculating on her eyes and nose and ears?

Maybe that's the problem. You don't understand because you believe it's abuse. If that's all you see, you'll never understand it so don't bother.


I don't understand what's the deal with the German's and their piss and scat. I mean what's sexy in seeing the body waste which is full of dangerous and toxic bacterias which cause hundreds of diseases and infections?

Well. First, the piss of a healthy person is sterile. But again. If it isn't your thing, why do you care?

leatherdick
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Posted - Aug 25 2007 : 2:04PM


studioline wrote:

I don't understand what's the deal with the German's and their piss and scat.


Edited by - studioline on 8/25/2007 5:43:30 AM


The Japanese make better scat than the germans. Germans seem to have moved into menstrual sex.

Le Duc de Blangis
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Ecce Lex
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Posted - Aug 25 2007 : 2:43PM


studioline wrote:
I don't understand what's with the Japanese and their bukkake and gokkun. I mean what's sexy in seeing 40 men abuse a girl by ejaculating on her eyes and nose and ears?

Edited by - studioline on 8/25/2007 5:43:30 AM


bukkake and gokkun are in the history of japan, adulterous women had this punishment.
and the law about the censorship of genital parts is one of the reason of these practices.

ChodeMasterJ
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Posted - Aug 25 2007 : 3:03PM

Le Duc de Blangis wrote:
bukkake and gokkun are in the history of japan, adulterous women had this punishment.

that's pretty interesting, i've never heard that before. nice info.

TheRizDawg
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Posted - Aug 25 2007 : 5:04PM
How is being cummed on a punishment?? I'd imagine that some adulturous women would enjoy every second of getting gooed up with spunk.
laura
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8/07
Posted - Aug 25 2007 : 5:14PM

There's fun. there's overboard, and there's too much.
One, two, three, or five facials is fun, 10 or more is a little overboard, but when its over 20 then its not fun anymore.
nietzsche
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"Making Healthy Choices"
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8/03
Posted - Aug 25 2007 : 5:30PM

bukkake and gokkun are in the history of japan, adulterous women had this punishment.
and the law about the censorship of genital parts is one of the reason of these practices.

That's from the first edition of American Bukkake, and it's a complete fabrication.

Le Duc de Blangis
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Ecce Lex
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9/06
Posted - Aug 26 2007 : 8:11AM
maybe you're right but I didn't see american bukkake #1.
I read this one day in a japanese bukkake website...

Edited by - hardware on 8/27/2007 1:33:53 PM

Le Duc de Blangis
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Ecce Lex
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Posted - Aug 26 2007 : 8:16AM


laura wrote:

There's fun. there's overboard, and there's too much.
One, two, three, or five facials is fun, 10 or more is a little overboard, but when its over 20 then its not fun anymore.


not fun but lots of proteins and healthy for female skin.

nietzsche
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Posted - Aug 26 2007 : 1:10PM

Both are humiliating, and that's all that matters.
sam46
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Posted - Aug 26 2007 : 1:27PM
Facial fans are fearless I tell you, fearless!


Hypermastia
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Posted - Aug 26 2007 : 4:47PM
Checkout Carly Parker in American Gokkum 2. She's in over her head as she's repeatedly verbally abused by some of the offscreen sperm donors (it's not-staged). She shouts back at her Hecklers, but Jim Powers keeps screaming at her to keep her mouth opened wide, chin up, head still, etc. She screams back at Jim, "You're an asshole! I can't do this". She threatens to quit 5 or six times, but finishes anyhow. Later she can be seen calling her agent, exclaiming, "This has been the worst day of my life".

Wonder if she got paid her full fee?

kimosabe
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8/07
Posted - Aug 26 2007 : 5:31PM
Please don't link bukkake and gokkun to scat, piss and other weird disgusting stuff. Cum is an integral part of the sex act, so it's natural to do some creative and edge-pushing stuff with it. I happen to like watching an attractive woman consuming large quantities of cum, in a slow sensuous manner. I want her looking straight into the camera, talking about it, smiling. It's not about a disgusting humiliation of the woman, it's about extreme surrender to lust. I don't care as much for bukkake because she has to close her eyes and it just isn't complete in my mind if she doesn't swallow at least a decent amount of it. There are some vids that include both and they are OK. Unfortunately recent Japanese vids are often going to Bukkake/Pissing instead of Bukkake/Gokkun. I don't understand the fascination with piss or ewww scat. That's the last thing that would get me hard.
Tinaka
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Posted - Aug 26 2007 : 6:01PM
well i heard the punishment for adulterous women story was an urban myth.
Luvvy Duvvy
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Posted - Aug 26 2007 : 6:31PM


studioline wrote:
I don't understand what's with the Japanese and their bukkake and gokkun. I mean what's sexy in seeing 40 men abuse a girl by ejaculating on her eyes and nose and ears?

Stop watching JAV "humilation" gokkun/bukkake. W

Edited by - hardware on 8/27/2007 1:34:50 PM

MikeSouth
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Posted - Aug 26 2007 : 9:06PM


Tinaka wrote:
well i heard the punishment for adulterous women story was an urban myth.

It is a myth that was created and perpetuated by JM Productions

Its complete nonesense no matter where you think you read it was a fact

God yall are gullible

tmd5
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seika izumi
1202 Posts
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Posted - Aug 27 2007 : 5:06AM


studioline wrote:
I don't understand what's with the Japanese and their bukkake and gokkun.

Since when was porn supposed to be sexy? People like different things, so what's the big deal?

There's nothing sexy about the cum in the eyes, ears, nose and throat thing. People watch that because it's so "extreme" and want something new to watch. People also watch certain types of porn because it's disgusting or shocking to them.

And it's funny how to describe it as "abuse". Please explain..

Edited by - hardware on 8/27/2007 1:36:02 PM

maltedecker
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481 Posts
5/07
Posted - Aug 27 2007 : 5:17AM
i'd like to know when or why bukkake was 'invented'. can anybody clear that up?
i read somewhere (in know, that doesn't help much...;-) ) that it was a traditional ritual from japanese fisherman before they left for a longer turn.

so long,
malte

tmd5
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seika izumi
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6/04
Posted - Aug 27 2007 : 5:20AM

The Japanese make better scat than the germans. Germans seem to have moved into menstrual sex.


I wasn't aware that the germany produced much scat. Is it officially legal there even? I'd assume so.

THe Japanese have produced a lot of scat, but right now only a few companies produce it. Mostly Opera (www.av-opera.jp). The guy who is director there made all the old Wildside DWS titles. Sickest movies ever made, ugh.

Natural High also seems to produce one title every 6 months or so.

As for the most disgusting scat movies, from my understanding the MFX ones are by far the "worst". Unfortunately from what people say on here, the quality varies.

I also disliked how everyone in the world seems to think bukkake was a form of punishment. There is no real way to know if this is true. I sure hope not. I don't blame JM for saying this, since it's only been on a dozen other bukkake websites.

Wow, I can't believe I haven't heard from a single person yet who said "Japanese Bukkake is all faked anyway". Yeah, i'm sure they have fake semen shooting devices attached to every performer!

tmd5
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seika izumi
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Posted - Aug 27 2007 : 5:35AM
I'm going to guess it was invented just because of censorship. Back in the day you couldn't even show pubic hair! Some people still think they censor pubic hair, but they don't anymore. I don't know what year they changed this, but my guess was the early 90's.

Really, if you had to censor all your porn, wouldn't you think your country would produce more bukkake? People complain about bukkake and refuse to watch it because it's censored. Why? Big deal. The focus is on the woman's face and not the bukkake scene and not a room full of men jerking off. Some bukkake movies don't even actually have any sex.

I don't know what the first bukkake movie was, but i'd like to know.

I know that in the last 90's there was Shuttle Japan titles. They were 60 minute movies that were rather simple. Women sit down on the floor while 100 men gave her a facial. Later they added the swallowing stuff.

From what i've heard Kazuhiko Matsumoto pretty much invented bukkake and made it popular. I don't know if this is true. He owned MVG aka M's Video Group and even had his own shops selling only his videos in Japan.

Back when they were VHS only you couldn't get them outside of his shops from what i've heard. Did you know that MVG has had several american porn stars in their movies? Peter North was in one of them! Yes, it's true! Another well known american porn star was also in "Countdown Sperm" from MVG. I forget his name. It was just so weird seeing Peter North on the cover of a Japanese movie.

I think the earliest MVG movie was MS-01 from 1995 which is "Fuyu No Jin" or "Fuji No Jin". I don't know the exact name. They had several other titles in that series. From my understanding, his movies were extremely popular in Japan.

They stopped selling movies for probably 10 years and then started back up again recently. When MVG wasn't officially making movies, the director did make some other titles for Dogma, Moodyz and SOD, such as "Semen Race Queens" etc.

Ramsey
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Posted - Aug 27 2007 : 12:31PM
The big problem with this serie is the fact that the guys are terrible aimers. Either they stand too far away to hit the right spot or they keep jerking while they're cumming so the cum flies everywhere but on the spot.
leatherdick
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Posted - Aug 27 2007 : 1:39PM
Some more theorising....

Bukkake is the noun form of the Japanese verb bukkakeru (‘Å‚ÁŠ/‚¯‚é, to dash [water]), and means simply "splash". The compound verb can be decomposed into two verbs: butsu (‚Ô‚Â) and kakeru (Š/‚¯‚é). Butsu literally means to hit, but in this usage it appears to be an intensive prefix as in buttamageru (‚Ô‚Á‚½‚Ü‚°‚é, "completely astonished") or butchigiri (‚Ô‚Á‚¿‚¬‚è, "overwhelming win"). Kakeru in this context means to shower or pour. The word bukkake is often used in Japanese to describe pouring out water (or other liquids) with sufficient momentum to cause splashing or spilling.[4] Indeed, bukkake is used in Japan to describe a type of dish where the toppings are poured on top of noodles, as in bukkake-udon and bukkake-soba.

On pornography websites, it is often claimed that the bukkake practice had its origins in a Japanese custom where adulterous women were ejaculated on and/or urinated on repeatedly in public. While often repeated in porn circles, there are no references that this has any basis in reality.

It is to be assumed that a significant factor in the development of bukkake as a pornographic art form was the mandatory censorship of genitalia (porn mosaic) in Japan. Since the directors could not show penetration they sought new, visually-appealing ways to approach sex acts that would satisfy the audience without violating Japanese law. Semen was not required to be censored, thus creating a loophole for harder sex scenes.

and here is the sociology theory.....

Some have described bukkake as a fetish culture beyond sex. Some authors claim that bukkake is symbolic group rape, and its primary purpose is the humiliation, degradation and objectification of women. [7] It has also been called a "ritualized humiliation of someone who evokes resentment" and an expression of male loss of control due to the reality of increasing gender equality.[4].[8]


Interesting subject. It had to originate in a patriarchal soceity, like Japan, with a lolita complex.

astroknight
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Tastes so good...
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Posted - Aug 27 2007 : 4:38PM
Isn't Gokkum that ugly dude who wanted the ring from those short guys in Lord of the Rings????

"I do not as a rule seek advice about food from thin people..." - Jeffrey Steingarten

RandomPrecision
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Dookie?
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Posted - Aug 27 2007 : 5:01PM
^ That was Gollum
maltedecker
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Posted - Aug 28 2007 : 3:37AM
woohoo! thanks for the detailed explanation leatherdick and tmd5! that was really interesting!

and a big LOL for the gollum-joke...

greetings,
malte

Robbie
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Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 4:53AM
Wiki is your friend...

Bukkake

Gokkun

Jholmes
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Posted - Sep 7 2007 : 6:31PM

The Japanese make better scat than the germans. Germans seem to have moved into menstrual sex.

Wow, NASTY, glad I never saw that

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