Are performers paid more to swallow?

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Digmen1
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Posted - Dec 24 2012 : 04:50:22 AM
I know that swallowing in movies is not that common, by most female porn stars.

I have read that they get paid extra to swallow.

Do you think this is the case, or is it that the girl swallows if she likes the guy ?

Or if in the heat of the moment the actor or the director tells her to swallow.

Or is is just part of the deal that they are getting paid to swallow, so they do.

Edited by - Digmen1 on Dec 24 2012

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mharris127
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Posted - Dec 25 2012 : 04:55:36 AM
Everything is negotiated before the scene is even scheduled. I don't know of any companies still doing swallow scenes due to the higher incidence of VDs compared to ejaculating on a woman's stomach but I would guess that a swallow scene costs the director an extra $200 or so (that's the going rate for adding anal which is about as dangerous as swallowing).

Edited by - mharris127 on 12/25/2012 4:55:56 AM

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Rod
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Posted - Dec 25 2012 : 07:29:04 AM


Digmen1 wrote:

Or is is just part of the deal that they are getting paid to swallow, so they do.


Yes

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Digmen1
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Posted - Dec 25 2012 : 11:54:46 AM
So if adding anal or a swallow costs the director the same, why don't they do more swallow scenes?

Do they think the viewers want to see more anal than swallow?


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pat362
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Posted - Dec 25 2012 : 12:28:30 PM
^I usually go to Kink for any rate questions because they are the only company that I'm aware of that actually posts that kind of information. They don't actually have an actual rate for swallowing but the info is enough to get a good idea.

b/g vaginal and/or oral sex is 700$ to 900$
b/g vaginal, oral and/or anal sex is 900$ to 1100$

That tells me that a basic oral scene is probably 700$ and that it probably doesn't iclude swallowing. Now if the peformer is up for it then she might get that extra 200$ for it so we are now at 900$. If she does vaginal then she gets 900$ but you still have to add 200$ for swallowing so you are now at 1100$. An anal scene is likely to be 1100$ but it also doesn't include swallowing so you have to add that 200$ and we are now at 1300$. Anal is more expensive that a basic orals sex scene with swallowing and girls may not be up to doing it.

I'm sure that there are many fans of swallowing but that number is insignificant when compared to fans of anal so a producer will want a girl to do anal a lot more than he'll want her to swallow because he'll get a betetr return on his investment.

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mharris127
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Posted - Dec 25 2012 : 06:17:40 PM


Digmen1 wrote:
So if adding anal or a swallow costs the director the same, why don't they do more swallow scenes?

Do they think the viewers want to see more anal than swallow?


My comment was an educated guess from what was done in the past. As I said I don't know of anyone doing swallowing scenes nowadays because of the possible incidence of VD but my understanding is that it used to be $200 and I think my reasoning stands. Rod may be doing a few since (IIRC) he deals a lot with married couples performing together and of course a married couple will probably be willing to swallow for free if they do it in their private life anyway and you can't get VD from someone in a monogamous relationship if he/she doesn't bring it in at the beginning (I doubt he is even required to ask for a VD test for long-term married couples). I think when Luc Wylder and Alexandra Silk (who have been married for almost 20 years) performed together in the late 90's and early 00's Alex swallowed for some scenes as well, since they performed for a company that they owned themselves I am sure a test wasn't in the picture there either unless others were in the scene.

Personally I wish all scenes were swallow scenes as I think cum on a woman's face (and to a lesser degree her stomach) is gross and a turn-off. However because of the aforementioned VD issue I doubt swallowing will return to screen anytime soon.

Edited by - mharris127 on 12/25/2012 6:20:01 PM

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Digmen1
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Posted - Dec 26 2012 : 12:24:27 AM
It seems that a lot of us on here are amateur medical practitioners.

People are saying girls don't like to swallow because of the chance of getting VD.

But they don't mind getting cream pies and letting guys put their dick in their pussy.

I wonder what the chances of getting VD are from getting cum in your mouth as against swallowing it.

Unless the girls go to the bathroom and do a really good anti septic mouth wash.


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Digmen1
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Posted - Dec 26 2012 : 12:53:54 PM
I see Elegant Angel are putting out a movie soon called "Let Me Swallow" with 5 or 6 female stars.

If there is a drop off in swallowing, perhaps its a fashion thing and the director think that fans want facials more.

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pat362
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Posted - Dec 26 2012 : 01:48:04 PM


Digmen1 wrote:
It seems that a lot of us on here are amateur medical practitioners.

People are saying girls don't like to swallow because of the chance of getting VD.

But they don't mind getting cream pies and letting guys put their dick in their pussy.


Seeing as only 3 people replied to your thread then you might want to rethink your statement "a lot of us are medical practioners" because you'd need way more people to post something.

It's possible to get an STD from oral sex and I makes sense that swallowing will increase the risk since you are adding semen to the equation. It also stads to reason that the possible area's for infection will increase since you will have that semen going down the throat.

Although many performers swallow. Some don't because they probably don't enjoy it and.or don't want to do it. I'd also say that those that do swalllow may not really enjoy it and therefore only do it rare occasions.

I'd also like to add that creampies are pretty rare now because that is definetely increasing your risk for an STD and if you read a thread about performers and birth control then avoiding creapies is even more imperative for them.

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mharris127
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Posted - Dec 27 2012 : 02:40:44 AM


pat362 wrote:

I'd also like to add that creampies are pretty rare now because that is definetely increasing your risk for an STD and if you read a thread about performers and birth control then avoiding creapies is even more imperative for them.


Since Tricia Deveraux got HIV from a creampie scene the instance of them have declined considerably. Most creampies I have seen since 1998 are amateur productions with committed (to each other) couples only. You can thank Marc Wallice for this (he infected at least five people, three were creampie scenes IIRC).

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Digmen1
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Posted - Dec 27 2012 : 05:12:49 AM
I still say that many on here seem to be amateur medical practitioners.

It is well known that it is easier to contact HIV through anal sex than any other form of sex.

So what is the third most common form of sex in porn these days ? that just about every female star does.

I tend to wonder if it more of a personal thing that girls don't swallow that much.

May be in real life they don't swallow much, and maybe they only want to do it to their boy friends.

Much like escorts do not normally kiss their clients.

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BlackSix
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Posted - Dec 27 2012 : 06:07:29 AM
I think it is usually a combination of what the performer is willing/prefers to do and what the director wants. Most directors think that viewers want to see facials, not swallowing. Some performers are not willing to swallow because let's face it, it doesn't taste that great. Some performers though seem to prefer swallowing to facials (Alexis Texas comes to mind), at least judging by how frequently they swallow.

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Rod
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Posted - Dec 27 2012 : 07:23:29 AM


Digmen1 wrote:
So if adding anal or a swallow costs the director the same, why don't they do more swallow scenes?

Do they think the viewers want to see more anal than swallow?



Anal pays more, but swallowing doesn't pay more.

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Rod
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Posted - Dec 27 2012 : 07:26:55 AM


pat362 wrote:
^I usually go to Kink for any rate questions because they are the only company that I'm aware of that actually posts that kind of information. They don't actually have an actual rate for swallowing but the info is enough to get a good idea.

b/g vaginal and/or oral sex is 700$ to 900$
b/g vaginal, oral and/or anal sex is 900$ to 1100$

That tells me that a basic oral scene is probably 700$ and that it probably doesn't iclude swallowing.


I think you're reading Kink wrong. Sex without anal is $700-900, sex with anal is $900-1100. The extra $200 is for anal. Some girls will swallow and some don't, but I've never heard of any getting more $$ for it. Maybe some do, but generally no.

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Rod
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Posted - Dec 27 2012 : 07:31:48 AM
as for the issue of HIV, I believe there have been several incidences of HIV transmission with ANAL creampies. Some directors/companies refuse to shot anal creampies because of it. I'm not aware of any companies not shooting vaginal creampies because of an increased risk of HIV transmission.
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pat362
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Posted - Dec 27 2012 : 09:13:54 AM


I think you're reading Kink wrong. Sex without anal is $700-900, sex with anal is $900-1100. The extra $200 is for anal. Some girls will swallow and some don't, but I've never heard of any getting more $$ for it. Maybe some do, but generally no.

You may be right but I was using deduction that since they mention oral and vaginal sex and give a scale of 700$ to 900$ then it makes sense to assume that the lower scale would be for the oral while the upper one would be for vaginal. That's not to say that a girl won't do vaginal for less than 900$ but I don't think Kink would pay anyone to do only oral for 900$. There might be exceptions but they would be rare.

It's about the same thing for the vaginal and anal since they use a similar pay scale where 900$ is for vaginal while 1100$ is for anal. Again a girl could do anal for less and Kink might be willing to pay more than 900$ for the vaginal but it would be the exception rather than the rule. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they will sometime pay more than their listed prices for certain performers but that's the name of the game and some performers tend to be more in demand and therefore it's good business to have them on your site even if it costs you a little more. I just don't belive that they would pay huge amounts above their listed prices for any performers.

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Gunzo
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Posted - Dec 27 2012 : 10:18:43 AM
I think it depends on a lot of diffirent factors.

But movies focused on cum-swallowing most likely pays extra. But a performer can of course swallow just to make a good scene, not everything pays off right away you know.

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LeyaFalcon
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Posted - Dec 27 2012 : 05:09:19 PM
No we do not...I just do it because I like it :)
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cimfan
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Posted - Dec 27 2012 : 07:18:43 PM
Swallow movies are my favourite type. I have quite a DVD collection devoted to that niche. I find performers I like and then search to see what movies they've swallowed in and buy those DVDs. It is hard to find this type of movie. I am grateful to the stars who swallow for us. It's a real turn on for sure, esp when the performer looks up at her male star when he's cumming in her mouth.

And no, bukkakes and such are not necessary. I just like to see regular couples hardcore scenes end with a cim and swallow. Mmmmmm.

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Digmen1
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Posted - Dec 28 2012 : 05:19:50 AM


LeyaFalcon wrote:
No we do not...I just do it because I like it :)

Thanks Leya.

I thought that might be the case, because I often see girls swallow guys that they seem to have some chemistry with.

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siripornstar
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Posted - Dec 28 2012 : 10:26:59 PM
OMG, I'd prefer to swallow over a facial any day.

1. Even if the guy claims to have good aim, there's no way I can be sure he won't accidentally cum in my eye. And if just a drop of cum gets in my eye, that means extreme swelling and pain and the loss of one of my expensive contact lenses. :(
2. In the event that the guy DID have any sort of STD, if his semen gets in my eye I can be COMPLETELY sure that shit is getting passed on to me!!! The eye tissue is way more receptive to bacteria than the mouth is. (Unless maybe I bit my cheek and have a small cut in my mouth, in which case, DUH, I wouldn't do a swallow scene.)
3. I don't mind the taste of cum, and in most cases I enjoy it, unless the dude only eats junk food and onions.

As for cream pies... I don't do them on film. Only some companies pay more for it, but there's no standard. And it would be unlikely to negotiate more than 100 above the basic rate, anyway, which isn't worth it to me. (Yes, I'm on BC! I just mean in terms of fucking with the natural pH balance down there. Mine is pretty sensitive to change.)

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cimfan
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Posted - Dec 29 2012 : 10:14:14 AM
Thank you for swallowing, siri. I look fwd to your scenes that show you doing that. Feel free to make eye contact and comment on the taste. :)

As for not wanting it on your face, that isn't an all or nothing thing. A lot of my swallow movies still show lots of the cum ending up on her face and needing to be scooped in to her mouth. My ex's solution for that was to keep her mouth wrapped around my c-ck as I was cumming. Of course, that doesn't work as well for porn as you miss some of the visual. Just make sure you show the camera what you have in your mouth before you swallow it all down. :)

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Rod
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Posted - Dec 30 2012 : 06:57:45 AM


Gunzo wrote:
I think it depends on a lot of diffirent factors.

But movies focused on cum-swallowing most likely pays extra. But a performer can of course swallow just to make a good scene, not everything pays off right away you know.


Actually, just the opposite. I've never had a publisher pay me more for a swallow scene, but I have had them pay less for scenes that didn't end with a facial.

I've never had a publisher ask for a scene that ends with swallowing and I've never paid more for a girl that swallowed.

Lots of girls don't like facials, but it doesn't take much $$ to get them to do it on camera if you offer.

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cimfan
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Posted - Jan 5 2013 : 10:28:45 AM
I am surprised to read that girls don't get paid much extra if anything to swallow. That might explain why scenes without it are common. Or perhaps it's personal preference by the girls. The erotic value of seeing a nicely made scene end in a swallow can't be beat. Much better than on her face or elsewhere on her body.
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