|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 5:33PM|
During my many years of watching porn esp during 1984-86 i have seen so much of everything. But now 85 if not 90% of the porn is anal. I know there are nerve endings in the poop shoot, but enough already. Almost everything is anal.
There are alot of sexual hot spots on the woman and the anus is tight but, it's an explosion of anal scenes like i have never seen before. I know alot of people a like it, i do not. But is there a reason porn as gone in this direction. It has annoyed me. Makes for collecting good stuff I like harder.
God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 5:41PM|
If it didn't sell, they wouldn't make it.. Although I don't see how an anal scene here and there would ruin a movie. If you are collecting "good stuff", there's plenty that isn't anal specific.
Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 7:07PM|
I think there are far less anal scenes being produced the last couple of years than, say, five years ago when RLD was dominating sales in the DVD market. Money's tight and everybody's going for the cheapest alternative possible. Seems to be fewer facials as well.
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 7:16PM|
Porn as with everything else moves in cycles. There is much less anal, definitely much less A2M (which has practically disappeared). For quite some time teens dominated titles, then mature women/MILFS moved up, now it seems to be moving back to teens. You could hardly see a hairy muff in porn until some months ago, now several movies and performers are sporting a fuller bush. Parodies were rare say a year ago, now hardly a week goes by without another porn parody hitting the shelves. Before only one to two labels (Hustler) were making them, now every outfit seems to be making them. Anal will never fall out of fashion because of the "taboo" element, but the circus acts of yesterday seem to be waning. A lot of recent titles seem to be concentrated on big asses, booty this and booty that, but less anal.
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 7:39PM|
Anal is just no longer interesting. Jeff Mullen commented today how Hillary Scott can fist her own ass and do DAP, and not even feel it. I suspect a slightly lubed 16 lb bowling ball would fit easily right next to Jeff's head.
The "anal queens" have become funny in a Three Stooges kind of way.
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 8:21PM|
Just look on the back of the box. If you don't see a dick in an ass, you're halfway there.
You may think you'd have an easier time if there wasn't so much anal in porn but the reality is usually much different than an assumption. I actually like anal and it's still hard for me to find stuff I really like. Just because there's a dick in an ass in most porn doesn't mean I'm gonna like it.
It would be the same way for vaginal fans if most porn was vaginal. The fact that there are only a small number of people making exclusively vaginal scenes right now means the ones who are probably really dig vaginal sex. That can only increase the chances that their stuff is pretty good.
There are lots of people making shitty anal porn just because it sells itself. It would be no different if the same people were making vaginal porn. The same people would be doing it with similar results.
As for the reasons for the anal trend? I'm sure there are many. For me, I just think the ass is sexy. It's perceived as really dirty so that gives it a bit of extra kick. If there's one thing that heightens sexual arousal for many people, it's a little bit of a taboo element. The asshole is exceptionally filthy so that's a really powerful psychological factor.
Edited by - randomprecision on 10/17/2009 8:26:17 PM
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 8:56PM|
I must have my anal too. If you really think anal sex lovers are squeezing porn consumers like yourself out of the game, look at it like this: In the overwhelming majority of scenes with anal sex, there's also vaginal sex... before the anal sex and often right before the pop shot. Anal-only scenes ain't hard to find by any means, but it's certainly not a given. But conversely, if there's no anal, there's no anal and vag-only is far more common than anal-only. No one's going to throw anal sex in a scene for the hell of it or to make the vaginal sex look hotter.
To answer the question at hand though, yeah I agree that because it's perceived as filthy and taboo, that naturally makes it sexier. I also think that it just straight up looks hotter. Assholes are gorgeous, they should be exploited at every opportunity.
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 9:17PM|
I have my own crazy theory on this subject
There are two types of girls in porn, girls who can make fucking amazing vaginal-only scenes - and girls who make average to boring vaginal-only scenes.
Those who would make fucking amazing scenes, thanks to the help of the internet, figured out they can earn a good living with just solo & girl-only porn. Porn viewers grew tired of average to boring vaginal scenes & turned to focusing on anal, where this second group of girls got stuck with the raw end of the deal. Hence the gap between soft & anal porn.
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 9:32PM|
I don't think it is as popular as some would suppose.
For anal fans, no anal in a movie is a deal-breaker.
As for the rest of us, like me, we tolerate anal in our products.
Therefore, many DVDs include some anal content.
Me personally, I like blowjobs, vaginal fucking and facials.
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 10:08PM|
I'd have to agree with RandomPrecision. I think anal is something very hot, if done right. There are tons of shitty anal scenes and movies, just like some of today's anal queens are just showcasing a freak show instead of something really hot. But, on the other hand, I'm sure there are people who totally love ass fisting, double anal etc, while I'd have to say that I'm a big fan of "regular" anal sex/scenes, but only if done according to my taste.
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 10:28PM|
The anal obsession is something I've just never understood and its becoming bigger by the day. I don't see the attraction of it nor is it arousing. That's why I hate when some of my favorite stars start doing anal because then that's the only themed films you see them in. I hate getting a movie and all I see is some chicks asshole wide open with the camera halfway up her rectum.
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 11:05PM|
Well, I hope there's room for everyone on this topic. I love anal, can't stand vag. But I also like only chicks, no dudes. A nice anal gape, anal fisting, double anal dildos, enemas, butt plugs, all of it. I didn't find porn heaven until anal came along and went extreme. It's just such a hard to get into hole, and it sits right down at the bottom of a woman's most hard-on producing feature, her butt cheeks. And it opens up so nicely when done right.
Having said all that, if I could find good tease and nude butt cheek material, with or without anal, I would watch that too. Like women walking.
I like to fist girls.
|Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 11:54PM|
Anal is fun!
Also, porn is supposed to be a bit taboo and anal is taboo moreso than vaginal sex. Plus, I love the the sight of a beautiful vagina and the visual of an exposed vagina with a fucked asshole is aesthetically more pleasing to me.
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 12:01AM|
I guess I'm a rare anal fan in that I love vaginal too. Just not quite as much as anal. But a good vaginal fuck can be almost as hot.
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 12:07AM|
I would have to dispute that.
If you count up all the scenes in a month? No way.
If you look at all the titles that have a least ONE anal scene you still don't hit anywhere close to this percentage.
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 12:15AM|
It almost sounds like they don't care whether a vagina is involved. In that case, might the real issue be whether or not they are
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 6:47AM|
Just because anal used the be very rare up until gonzo porn was invented doesn't mean porn fans didn't want to see a lot of it. I think women are more open to it and therefor a lot better at it thus enjoying it much more. Used to be girls taking it for a few minutes at the end of a scene to make the guy pop.
I'm pretty sure there's enough vanilla porn, or near vanilla, for those who prefer it. And assfans can smile knowing there's plenty of girls entering the business just so they can get all the asspounding they crave, it almost brings a tear to my eye thinking of girls like Bobbi Starr, Aline and Flower Tucci, to name a few fan favorites.
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 7:05AM|
Those who can't -- teach
Those who can't -- watch others that can.
Those who would never -- pay money to do so.
Monkey see -- Monkey do
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 8:41AM|
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 10:46AM|
I agree completely, no anal or DP means no purchase, I also wont purchase/watch hairy pussies--bleccchhh- no one under 40 has hair on their pussy these days unless they never use that pussy
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 11:48AM|
I agree with you simon33333, I don't like it either... it's about as sexy as a colonoscopy.! Like the "facial" (separate thread), it's just another way of humiliating or expressing dominance over a woman. Male dominance/female submission is the cornerstone of porn, and anal sex is probably the ultimate act in this dominant/submissive interplay, hence its pornographic appeal.
Edited by - wmonbear on 10/18/2009 11:49:00 AM
On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick!
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 12:23PM|
In today's porn, a girl isn't a star unless she goes anal.
Deep within Mila's anus
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 12:54PM|
That's the wrong way to descirbe anal. Yeah Hillary Scott, seen it a thousand times. Yawn. but now when you're talking about fresh cuties like Dakoda Brookes doing anal that's an event. You telling me if Alexis Love were to do a thousand non-anal scenes, you would just walk past her "anal debut" movie? Why is Big Wet Asses so popular: anal scenes/debuts from girls deemed to be "non-anal".
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 4:44PM|
It's interesting that you seem to want to describe everything you don't like in porn as humiliating for women. I never saw anal that way at all and it's baffling to me how someone can see an anal scene that way. Is it possible you see it this way because that's what you want to see? Unless it is specifically spelled out that it's meant to be a humiliating act, the viewer is left to interpret it how he or she wishes to. To me, I'm just watching a man and woman fucking. I find the female ass to be intoxicating so that's what I want to see. Lots of ass play. I don't give a rats ass about humiliation in this context. I just want to see good sex. I think gapes are hot for the same reason I think tits are hot. Which is that I don't know why I think they're hot. I don't need to know in order to get off on them. As long as they turn me on, I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to demystify it. I'm getting towards the age where I'll just be thankful I can still get off on something.
And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me...
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 7:45PM|
I love anal and I love vag.
I find it weird when people complain about an amazingly beautiful woman HAVING SEX ON CAMERA and throwing hissy fits about which gorgeous lower body hole it's going into. Vag is amazing, anal's a glorious bonus.
More interested in shot selection, and quality of direction/editing - that's what makes or spoils scenes.
|Posted - Oct 18 2009 : 9:13PM|
An aspect of porn is fantasy... almost everybody has done vaginal, comparatively few have done anal so it's something a bit different. It is also kinda of *nasty* which people like.
It's also a generation thing. Yesterdays (and tbh probably yours) was oral. Today's generation is anal
I think anal is important. It's part of an all sex movie - don't think I would buy a flick without it altogether, I think it would just be to boring, too regular and too similar to sex I usually get.
Edited by - joel on 10/18/2009 9:16:28 PM
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
|Posted - Oct 20 2009 : 6:01AM|
I'm under 40 and have never slept with a woman with a shaved pussy. It's easy, I just don't bang brain-dead bar stars.
You must also watch practically no quality porn, as Sasha Grey, Alexis Texas, Gianna and Kristina Rose, all queens of gonzo, now sport bush.
OT: anal has definitely declined, thank god, as it was becoming formulaic and way too many girls who didn't like doing it were turning in bad scenes just so the director could get his anal scene.
|Posted - Oct 20 2009 : 12:57PM|
I don't know what women get out of it. To a guy it's the ultimate turnon for some reason. Maybe some kind of dominance and submissive act. Just about every European performer does anal and loves it. Monica Sweetheart was one of the first Europeans to do a lot of anal at the beginning of this decade followed by Katja Kassin, Jane Darling, Julie Silver, etc. Then the Americans started to catch on. One of the best anal performers I've seen is tiny Sunny Jay.
What I've always noticed is that anal's not done correctly. I've heard doctors say that vaginal sex should not be performed after anal sex because bacteria is transferred that can cause problems. There's bacteria in the colon that keeps it healthy and that should not be transferred elsewhere.
|Posted - Oct 20 2009 : 1:07PM|
It doesn't bother me either way. If there's anal in a scene its a bonus otherwise i'm fine with vaginal fucking on film. I could watch an all anal film just as well. I guess its all on my mood.
On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick!
|Posted - Oct 20 2009 : 1:23PM|
Some girls love it, mine does. She repeatedly gets off when I do it to her. After one extended non anal spell, I gave it to her in her ass almost exclusively one night. Her response at the end of it: "God I needed that!"
|Posted - Oct 20 2009 : 7:18PM|
It's "new" and intriguing, its less likely that the viewer has done it in real life, it is a great visual, its "forbidden" etc.
All this makes it exciting, more so than the physical act itself might be. As this thread has proven, people have very different reasons for watching it.
I like it because of the great visual, although I'm not that eager to have someone do it to me, I can to some degree understand how penetration would feel like, since I do actually have one myself. Most of us guys are probably conscious of not letting anyone near it, which makes the thought of a girl actually agreeing to receive anal penetration very "dirty". I think this fact adds to the excitement. I prefer "clean anal", as opposed to all the people who want it dirty, either in a literal sense or in the gonzo style. I love the fantasy of anal penetration, showcased in high budget anal porn, but I'm not really that fond of being reminded of the smell, the germs, penetration problems, pain etc.
|Posted - Oct 20 2009 : 10:58PM|
I'm just as open minded as the next when it comes to anal (even 10 yrs ago when it wasn't "trendy")...but if I wanted my porn to be drenched in anal I'd watch gay porn. I also think it's weird when a "heterosexual" man wants to fuck a girls ass more than her vag. Very strange.
I'm just sayin'
|Posted - Oct 20 2009 : 11:13PM|
Of course you are. Now ask yourself why you wouldn't watch gay porn if you wanted your porn to be drenched in oral sex. Hey. Gay people have tons of oral sex so blowjobs must be gay! Do you see where I'm going here? The whole idea that anal sex is strictly for gays is fucking stupid. This bullshit comes up every time anal sex comes up and at this point, it's just fucking trolling.
|Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 1:20AM|
nope...you're just taking it to another level personally. And as a heterosexual woman, I happen to be fond of gay porn because it's more passionate and not to mention the male talent is hella hot. But the fact of the matter is the op expressed his befuddlement about the "anal trend" and I agree. There is WAY too much anal in gonzo and even features. It's like when sitcoms bring in that distant "cousin" to explain why a main character got the axe.
But what I do find "fucking stupid" is how a seemingly heterosexual man (any heterosexual man) can sit there and say vaginal sex doesn't turn him on (with a straight face, no less). But different strokes for different folks I suppose.
No puns intended
|Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 1:25AM|
Pun intended, right?
|Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 3:12AM|
1. I'm not straight
2. I like vaginal sex and it turns me on (Even though I'm not straight).
3. Very few straight men would turn down vaginal sex from a woman they like. Some have simply expressed a preference for anal in porn because it makes porn more exciting for them. A few have stated their reasons in this thread. If you don't believe them, that's your problem.
4. If there was way too much anal in porn, anal porn wouldn't be popular (As the title of the thread itself points out). The statement that there's too much of it would (If true) mean that people don't like it but lots of it is made anyway. That obviously isn't true so neither is your statement. There can't be way too much of it if it's as popular as it seems to be.
5. If your not so subtle insinuation that a man would have to be gay in order to enjoy watching a woman get fucked in the ass (WTF?) were true, that would mean most anal porn fans are gay men who would rather watch women get fucked in the ass than men. If you can't see how patently dumb even the idea of that is, I don't know what else to tell you. Now if you wanted to say that most men probably have bisexual tendencies, that would make more sense and I would agree. But here's the thing. Exclusively gay men watch gay porn. Period. I've known quite a few of them and I've never seen a single gay man with a straight porn collection.
6. There is still porn made that is vaginal only. Admittedly, it's a very small amount (Comparatively) but it's out there. Buying porn that obviously has lots of anal sex in it and then complaining about it isn't going to do a thing. Buy what you like. You could make a "Recommendations for vaginal only" thread and get plenty of good advice and I promise i won't show up in that thread and attack you for your preferences.
Edited by - randomprecision on 10/21/2009 3:42:19 AM
|Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 10:37AM|
hairy pussy is bad for porno from a technical standpoint, you cant see whats happening, in real life just looks unclean
Deep within Mila's anus
|Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 10:55AM|
Bingo! That is certainly the appeal for me. And it's why I like the scenes that are in obvious discomfort for the girl. Or resistance to ATM. That is more real emotion that can't be as easily faked and that's what separates the 1000s of run of the mill releases clogging the racks.
|Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 3:58PM|
There was a time where it seemed like every film, even features had at least 2-3 anal sex scenes in them. Luckily for me, that has clearly slowed down. Oh it's clearly still produced at a high percentage, but I don't believe it gets shot nearly as much as say 5 years ago. I actually believe producers are "finally" starting to listen to "other" fans instead of just the more daring ones. In general, I'm seeing more of the things I like, and less of what I don't like.
I prefer vag. maybe because I think it's more rhythmic and yet more visually pleasing, plus it's what I prefer in my real life. I have nothing against anal sex though. If mixed with a good amount of hot vaginal sex, anal sex can make for the perfect finish with girls that are clearly into both. I'll never pass an anal sex scene or film with say Belladonna or Flower Tucci in them, since both woman clearly enjoy both. If I have a problem with anal or vaginal sex, it's that a lot of the time the only clearly isn't into one of them. With anal queens simply tolerating vaginal sex, or vaginal queens simply tolerating anal. All to often, I think there tends to be too many women doing either when they clearly don't want to.
I used to think anal sex scenes were generally horribly shot years ago, but can't say that now though. For me it has to be visual, so in that sense, I find anal sex much easier to watch nowadays.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
|Posted - Oct 21 2009 : 11:51PM|
Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
|Posted - Oct 22 2009 : 5:00PM|
^ +1 fucking hilarious !
under THEIR avatar
|Posted - Oct 22 2009 : 11:07PM|
"Why is anal sex so popular?"
Cause fucking someone in the ass is fantastic!
|Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 10:41AM|
^ Yeah! There you go!
Finally someone with some damn common sense on this board! I figure it's a hole that's there, why not fuck it and let us see a juicy pink taco in the process.
|Posted - Oct 25 2009 : 9:41AM|
|Posted - Oct 25 2009 : 12:21PM|
Am I the only one here who can watch a great vag only one-on-one scene, and love it, and watch a dirty gangbang with DPs and anal gape and ATM and all that great stuff, and love it just as much? Why are so many porn watches so picky? I like variety, changes of pace.
|Posted - Oct 25 2009 : 1:04PM|
Hi (first post)
I'm actually very happy porn went in the "anal" direction.
Watching vaginal sex bores me to death and seriously, I can barely get a hard-on while looking at it. On the other hand, anal stimulation of different kind (self, finger, tongue, penis :D) works well.
It's different for real life, but isn't porn supposed to be about what we will probably never get? (model bodies, kinky sex, etc.). I want to see in porn what I can't get in real life. You can have vaginal sex with every girl there is, but only a small percentage will agree on anal sex without you having to heavily persuade them (and I want sex to be pleasurable for both me and my girl, not some sort of forced do_it_for_me_or_else act).
Guess it would be better for me to be gay ;) But heck, I'm straight and I can only get to see anal in porn. Well, at least I have that.
Good & Evil is merely a matter of perspective, I perfer to call myself... Determined
|Posted - Oct 25 2009 : 1:57PM|
I don't have a vagina.
I can relate more with anal.
|Posted - Oct 27 2009 : 9:59PM|
Everybody has their own appetites, of course. Part of the turn-on re: anal sex is the idea of "being taken." The wide-open gapers can be carried to an extreme, and this is something that has evolved over the past decade or so. To me, backdoor sex can be truly "hot" when the element of seduction is evident. The whole concept of a woman being taken---when "no, no, no" really means "yes, yes, yes"---can be thoroughly "hot." The girl next door wearing glasses being taking anally can be more arousing than a standard "gaper." It just depends on the personalities, the movement, etc. True, there is a time and a place for all kinds of sex, but sometimes I think that the industry has taken a step backwards, back into the era of mere "sport fucking."
Nikki Sexx is superhot !!!!
|Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 10:49PM|
....LOl this is the best reason i have read....
Edited by - bissy on 12/18/2009 10:50:19 PM
|Posted - Dec 19 2009 : 12:28AM|
I think it looks pretty. It's a nice visual to me for some reason.
|Posted - Dec 19 2009 : 12:33PM|
I see a lot more European titles now available than years ago. If you watch a European film, it is rare for anal not to be included in nearly every scene. My feeling is the European influence spread to America and now directors are copying this trend. If you view a Japanese title, it is the opposite in that it is rare for any title to have an anal scene. With all the porn available from around the globe, easily accessible by the internet, it is just a niche that is spreading, similar to a virus or a disease that spreads. To each his own.
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