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PornBoy
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Posted - Feb 14 2003 : 09:02:00 PM
Just wondering. I heard Tabitha Steven on Stern not long ago talking about how she won't do interracial but she's nailed Ron Jeremy. Then I saw one pornstar do double anal in a movie but she won't fuck a black guy. I guess she has to protect her reputation. Some pornstars say they have a harder time dancing in some states after doing interracial but then why go to those states? I don't think most guys really care who go to strip clubs. Topic Moved by - Steph on Feb 15 2003
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Posted - Feb 14 2003 : 09:08:00 PM
Its a personal choice I guess. I don't think they should be pressurised on doing anything they don't want to. I'm sure there are plenty of black porn girls who won't do white guys either.
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Pontus Maximus
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Posted - Feb 14 2003 : 09:41:00 PM
PornBoy, this topic was discussed before at ADT in this thread. I think you'll find it helpful.

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Yani Z
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Posted - Feb 14 2003 : 10:21:00 PM
This was a hot topic when I was working at West Coast.
I talked to some of the girls one on one and this is what they had to say:
"My agent told me if I did blacks the bigger companies wouldn't hire me" This in turn would not let them make as much money in strip clubs because they make a name from the bigger companies.
Dam I remember Lex and Marc's about explode because they couldn't do interracial scenes anymore with certain companies. I think Lex even stopped working for one just because of that! That what I think he told me anyways.
It starting to turn around now a little but still a little hard for me to book my talent in my Interracial movie!
It most of the time has nothing to do with race. You really think they would do some of these guys if they weren't getting paid for it!

Edited by - Yani Z on 2/14/2003 10:22:56 PM

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vanish_062
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Posted - Feb 15 2003 : 08:57:00 AM
it could be as simple on a personnal level for them as they may not get turned on by say a black guy, so cant perform aswell as they can as they arent attracted to them.

my 2 cents

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mark2
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Posted - Feb 15 2003 : 02:15:00 PM


Yani Z wrote:
This was a hot topic when I was working at West Coast.
I talked to some of the girls one on one and this is what they had to say:
"My agent told me if I did blacks the bigger companies wouldn't hire me" This in turn would not let them make as much money in strip clubs because they make a name from the bigger companies.
Dam I remember Lex and Marc's about explode because they couldn't do interracial scenes anymore with certain companies. I think Lex even stopped working for one just because of that! That what I think he told me anyways.
It starting to turn around now a little but still a little hard for me to book my talent in my Interracial movie!
It most of the time has nothing to do with race. You really think they would do some of these guys if they weren't getting paid for it!

Edited by - Yani Z on 2/14/2003 10:22:56 PM


blacks have smaller penises!

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sent here via meta-refresh. no, seriously.

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Chuck D.
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Posted - Feb 15 2003 : 04:03:00 PM
Pornboy if you are serious about knowing the answer to the question please go to the Mr. Marcus message board. There you can get the whole truth and not have all these comments like "it could be as simple on a personnal level for them as they may not get turned on by say a black guy, so cant perform aswell as they can as they arent attracted to them"
refuted properly and not have deal with people who are commited to only getting one side of issue out. To quote Mr Laywer on Mr Marcus's forum.

"The dumbest thing is this notion that if a girl works with someone they're not attracted to then the scene wont be hot. It's the girl's job to make the scene hot. Girls are in uncomfortable positions all the time. I read in an interview that Janna Jameson said how much she hates Reverse Cow Girl and how much it hurts. Yet she does it every movie. So this whole stupid notion that a girl has to be turned on to make the scene look good is just dumb and it's not true. Girls do things in movies all the time that don't turn them on ."

He was saying if the girl was professional they could make any scene look hot. I hope this helps.

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bigdick
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Posted - Feb 15 2003 : 11:16:00 PM
Chuck! Don't believe the hype!!!!
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DenverDon
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Posted - Feb 15 2003 : 11:23:00 PM


bigdick wrote:
Chuck! Don't believe the hype!!!!

Especially from a Mr. Lawyer. He loves throwing that stuff out, and I believe got banned.

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Planet Sex
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Posted - Feb 15 2003 : 11:37:00 PM


blacks have smaller penises!

Yes. Much smaller... than an ELEPHANT´s penis, of course!

But, seriously, there´s only ONE reason for pornstars to avoid interracial. Racism. Pure and simple. No matter what other excuses they present.


"My agent told me if I did blacks the bigger companies wouldn't hire me".

That can be true in some cases. But in the particular case of a certain huge star who refuses to do I/R, what does she fears? Being unemployed? Yeah, right.


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bigdick
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Posted - Feb 16 2003 : 08:03:00 AM
LLoll! Racism will always exist. You can't like everybody you meet for all kind of reasons. If a chinese chick don't want to perform with a white man it's the same as a black man not wanting to perform with a white chick so we should not care. It's all about money and in this business people with fuck each other for money no matter the race. Just get people to fuck and film it and lets the public decides what they want to watch.
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crenshaw
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Posted - Feb 17 2003 : 10:55:00 AM
This whole idea that doing IR will hurt a girls career is nonsense. Some of the biggest stars in the industry have done interracial. Look at someone like Silvia Saint(please come back) or Inari Vachs. I think any fans a star would lose by doing interracail would more than be made up for by the fans she would GAIN by doing interracial. Whether or not an actress finds black men attractive is irrelevant. She is being payed to ACT. Personally, if I know that a performer refuses to do Interracial, I try to avoid their movies. I suggest others do the same.
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Posted - Mar 30 2005 : 07:02:00 AM
I think the conception that interracial will hurt a girl's career has really changed since 2001 or so. Now IR porn is amongst the most successful selling. Is it because its taboo or because blacks have a more prominant role in entertainment now? No longer are blacks thought of as "lesser" by the majority although that mindset will probably remain.
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LCF
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Posted - Mar 30 2005 : 08:59:00 AM


crenshaw wrote:
This whole idea that doing IR will hurt a girls career is nonsense. Some of the biggest stars in the industry have done interracial. Look at someone like Silvia Saint(please come back) or Inari Vachs.


I don't know if it was true but Sylvia not only do IR she was even hooked up with Mr Marcus.

Anyone knows something about that?

Anyway this doesn't seems have affected her career , Chloe Nicholle also did a lot of IR and worked also a lot with Vivid (is Vivid a major company?)and it was some years ago
for now I see that Teagan become a contract girl with Digital Playground (is Digital a Major company?)and Teagan did IR since her early career.


You may find lots of IR in Private Productions (is Private a Major company?)
Hustler have some IR titles (is Hustler a major company?)

I really don't understand what are those major companies which don't like those who did IR.


Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 3/30/2005 9:03:53 AM

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sh_rock
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Posted - Mar 31 2005 : 10:54:00 PM
i find girls who refuse to do interracial are illogical at best. not attracted to black guys? question, were they attracted to all the white guys they did?

it would hurt my career. ask lauren phoenix, venus, ariana jollee, nina hartley and renee pornero about how their careers have downslided for doing interracial.

my fanbase wouldn't understand. catering to close minded bigots--might as well lead a KKK parade--same difference.

my husband or boyfriend doesn't approve. he makes the decisions as to who she works with? proud to be married to or dating a racist huh?

time to get off the soapbox.

we the people, in order to form a more perfect union...

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Bill
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Posted - Mar 31 2005 : 11:04:00 PM
Can someone explain to me why it was necessary to revive a 2 year old thread?
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BSD
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Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 12:04:00 AM


Bill wrote:
Can someone explain to me why it was necessary to revive a 2 year old thread?

BILL -

Cuz the five thousand or so IR themed threads we've slogged through since then, (including about four or five currently active ones, for the benefit of those that are recent arrivals), just didn't get to the gist of the issue?

Smile. *Sigh*

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LCF
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Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 01:01:00 AM
I don't understand what exactly means "doing IR affect my career" .A star will not have any possibility to become a contract girl?
Teagan did IR and signed for Digital Playground.
They get less money when going to perform in clubs?
this is a big question but i wonder why? i don't believe that all customers of those club are fond in porn this much to know every girl who did IR ,someone said that some managers had a tracking list of girl who did, but i still wonder why? to make less money? this is meaningless for me. But if it's true that a star get paid less by doing IR. This is a good reason i think ,since they're workers so their purpose is to get the maximum amount of money they can.
I don't know how much a star gains in a strip club, 1000? 2000? and what about a tour across the USA? in a month working 5 days a week they can get even more than doing porn, besides thay can escort if they want to and this might be the answer it is possible that doing IR affect escorting prices if a star do so she won't lose too much money and her agent agree of course and try to have no IR contracts.

Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 4/1/2005 1:07:58 AM

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DeeDee
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Posted - Apr 2 2005 : 12:13:00 PM
Maybe Mr. Lexxington Steele's big pipe scares some away...

It's hard to discuss this without the issue of racism popping up, and I still feel that all the other reasons (career, fan-base, not attracted to...) have this issue lurking in the back.

I don't want to blame anyone or force anyone into anything, but the IR might not only stand for InterRacial, but also for IRrational...

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Haze
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I heard a rumor that Taylor Rain who is against interracial sex had sex with one of the guys from G-Unit as well as a pro basketball player.
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KatjaKassin
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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 04:03:37 AM
I think if a girl does IR from the start of her career todays she can built a larger fan base fast. That's in my opinion one of the reasons (besides performing anal from my very first scene) why I became so popular in just a few month when I started porn. I appreciate my black fan group and I know they are part of why companies sell more copies when my ass is on the box.
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NuTTy_BuDDy
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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 05:00:42 AM


Haze wrote:
I heard a rumor that Taylor Rain who is against interracial sex had sex with one of the guys from G-Unit as well as a pro basketball player.

lmao

And Banks is one ugly mu'fucka too.

I agree with dude that said it's illogical at best and add superficial. There's really no other excuse other than self-consciousness and/or what their peers will think or say. It's not at all about attraction. One can make a case for class but even that’s questionable at best.

They're led to believe they're dealing with a moral issue, which is why many humorously think "well, at least I never fucked a black guy" gives them the high-ground and makes everything just fine.

For the most part, I still think it's a mistake to get all salty over an individual girl. They're probably just that conditioned or that impressionable, or that insecure, and are only catering to the ego of whatever Dog the Bounty Hunter look a like is whispering in their ear.

Getting all bent out of shape over an individual girl is just as illogical as their actions, or lack thereof. Obviously in the biz the demographics are pretty lopsided. The number of black males is minute in comparison to white males.

You could say the biz reflects US society in many ways so the girls that 'know their role' and are a little more easy to control, know exactly how to respond to the passing "you don't fuck niggers, right ?", even if in the back of her mind she knows she's a screaming Usher fan.

Besides, for every naïve/grossly-overrated dodger there's a Lauren Phoenix or a Monica Sweetheart, whom don't seem to hide anything from their viewers.

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Lugnuts
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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 06:16:23 AM

I think the reason why this topic won’t go away is because people just can’t understand how people think. For instance how can someone like Taylor Rain let some one like MaxHardcore piss in her mouth and other degrading stuff and also let Khantusion piss on her but she won’t have sex with a black man. WTF!!!

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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 06:35:02 AM
The girls in porn aren't just fuckholes with a girl attached to them, as many people seem to think.

And I suppose not every girl wants to get fucked by a black.
It's as simple as that. I mean just cause a girl enters porn she doesn't loose her rights to her own body and the right to choose what she wants to do with it.

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AC Cream
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_swede_ wrote:
The girls in porn aren't just fuckholes with a girl attached to them, as many people seem to think.

And I suppose not every girl wants to get fucked by a black.
It's as simple as that. I mean just cause a girl enters porn she doesn't loose her rights to her own body and the right to choose what she wants to do with it.


This might be THE MOST intelligent post I've ever seen written about the IR topic. It's good to know there is at least 1 other clear minded person out there. There are many reasons why a girl might do or not do IR. What those are change for each different girl. In recent years it's become almost "unacceptable" for a girl not to do IR. What has it led to? Some wonderful "we all bleed red" porn utopia? NO It's lead to a watered down IR niche. With girls doing IR cause it was told to them it was the right thing to do, because why not it's paying, etc. etc. not because ALL of them really love IR. It's also led to way too many black male talents. SOME of whom aren't fit to carry Peter North's, Mark Wood's, or Mark Davis' cum rags. Another thing it's led to are much shorter careers for girls. Which is good for the industry a rotation of fresh meat, but it's bad for the girls. For example, a girl from Jackson, Mississippi comes to do Porn intending to make a career of it. When she gets there an agent or a pornstar peer says "you really should do Black Cock In My Ass #44". Then after 6 months she proceeds to get shot out since she has done all the paydays right away. So basically she is left with whatever money she accumulated that didn't get blown on cost of living or cost of partying in Cali. Then she has to go back to Jackson where that "Black Cock In My Ass #44" might not make for such an easy time. These things are things that a caring agent/manager and far sited porn producers would see.

BUT as _swede_ said it's porn and MANY people think girls in porn are just fuckholes that have no soles, no mental states, no real home lives, no families & friends, no long term thoughts after 6 months, and no free will to decide IR is not right for them.

I just happen to not be 1 of the MANY.

AC Cream

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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 09:00:46 AM


AC Cream wrote:


_swede_ wrote:
The girls in porn aren't just fuckholes with a girl attached to them, as many people seem to think.

And I suppose not every girl wants to get fucked by a black.
It's as simple as that. I mean just cause a girl enters porn she doesn't loose her rights to her own body and the right to choose what she wants to do with it.


This might be THE MOST intelligent post I've ever seen written about the IR topic. It's good to know there is at least 1 other clear minded person out there. There are many reasons why a girl might do or not do IR. What those are change for each different girl. In recent years it's become almost "unacceptable" for a girl not to do IR. What has it led to? Some wonderful "we all bleed red" porn utopia? NO It's lead to a watered down IR niche. With girls doing IR cause it was told to them it was the right thing to do, because why not it's paying, etc. etc. not because ALL of them really love IR. It's also led to way too many black male talents. SOME of whom aren't fit to carry Peter North's, Mark Wood's, or Mark Davis' cum rags. Another thing it's led to are much shorter careers for girls. Which is good for the industry a rotation of fresh meat, but it's bad for the girls. For example, a girl from Jackson, Mississippi comes to do Porn intending to make a career of it. When she gets there an agent or a pornstar peer says "you really should do Black Cock In My Ass #44". Then after 6 months she proceeds to get shot out since she has done all the paydays right away. So basically she is left with whatever money she accumulated that didn't get blown on cost of living or cost of partying in Cali. Then she has to go back to Jackson where that "Black Cock In My Ass #44" might not make for such an easy time. These things are things that a caring agent/manager and far sited porn producers would see.

BUT as _swede_ said it's porn and MANY people think girls in porn are just fuckholes that have no soles, no mental states, no real home lives, no families & friends, no long term thoughts after 6 months, and no free will to decide IR is not right for them.

I just happen to not be 1 of the MANY.

AC Cream


Thanks :) I totally agree with you. I mean all girls in porn are someones daughter, sister etc.
They're just normal girls with a very special job.

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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 09:29:09 AM


AC Cream wrote:


_swede_ wrote:
The girls in porn aren't just fuckholes with a girl attached to them, as many people seem to think.

And I suppose not every girl wants to get fucked by a black.
It's as simple as that. I mean just cause a girl enters porn she doesn't loose her rights to her own body and the right to choose what she wants to do with it.


This might be THE MOST intelligent post I've ever seen written about the IR topic. It's good to know there is at least 1 other clear minded person out there. There are many reasons why a girl might do or not do IR. What those are change for each different girl. In recent years it's become almost "unacceptable" for a girl not to do IR. What has it led to? Some wonderful "we all bleed red" porn utopia? NO It's lead to a watered down IR niche. With girls doing IR cause it was told to them it was the right thing to do, because why not it's paying, etc. etc. not because ALL of them really love IR. It's also led to way too many black male talents. SOME of whom aren't fit to carry Peter North's, Mark Wood's, or Mark Davis' cum rags. Another thing it's led to are much shorter careers for girls. Which is good for the industry a rotation of fresh meat, but it's bad for the girls. For example, a girl from Jackson, Mississippi comes to do Porn intending to make a career of it. When she gets there an agent or a pornstar peer says "you really should do Black Cock In My Ass #44". Then after 6 months she proceeds to get shot out since she has done all the paydays right away. So basically she is left with whatever money she accumulated that didn't get blown on cost of living or cost of partying in Cali. Then she has to go back to Jackson where that "Black Cock In My Ass #44" might not make for such an easy time. These things are things that a caring agent/manager and far sited porn producers would see.

BUT as _swede_ said it's porn and MANY people think girls in porn are just fuckholes that have no soles, no mental states, no real home lives, no families & friends, no long term thoughts after 6 months, and no free will to decide IR is not right for them.

I just happen to not be 1 of the MANY.

AC Cream


lol, you think this is clear minded? I have less than 500 posts in the past 5 years because I tend to avoid the politics of porn. I've been around so of course I've seen your tirades on IR. Most people will tell you there isn't enough black male talent Mr "Clear Minded".

I don't really think a girl should be blamed for not fucking a black guy but people like yourself are why these girls think doing so is sooooo morally damaging.

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Braintax
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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 02:46:07 PM
Pathetic thread in my opinion.

Why do some people DO or NOT do ANYTHING! because they can!

They are human. So they have a choice.

... and yes i do sometimes feel people on this board are retarded.

why dont more girls fuck their fans ... do pornstars ever use condoms ... what the fuck! stop asking stupid questions to which the answers are obvious!

NOTE: before you make a post , think about answering the question with respect to your own life. The answer will ten to one be the same as the one you are gonna get from posting here.

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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 03:15:55 PM


NuTTy_BuDDy wrote:
....Most people will tell you there isn't enough black male talent Mr "Clear Minded".

Of course they would Nutty_BuDDy. Most are apart of the "MANY". People who can't see enough black cock. No matter how floppy the cock is and how uninterested & unskilled the man carrying the cock is.



NuTTy_BuDDy wrote:
....I don't really think a girl should be blamed for not fucking a black guy

If that's the case good for you, but you are rare in that case. You can't deny the legion of questions.... "When ya gonna do IR!?" "Why don't ya do IR!?" "How long till ya do IR!?" "Are you racist?(cause ya don't do IR)" "I'd love to see ya with a Lex or Mandingo!" that new girls get non-stop early in their careers.



NuTTy_BuDDy wrote:
....people like yourself are why these girls think doing so is sooooo morally damaging.

If you believe that people getting in the girls ears are the reason they don't sleep with black guys your being blinded or your blinding yourself. It's a personal choice that's perfectly reasonable and ok for a girl to make. For example, lets say your "type" is blonde haired white girls. Do you have 15 questions a day about "Why don't you do Asian girls?". Of course not! Why!? Because it's wrong for somebody to "expect" you have sex out of your preference.



NuTTy_BuDDy wrote:
....I've been around so of course I've seen your tirades on IR.

Let's just say though that my "tirades" are FOR IR not against it. My point was merely to say that the current IR does everybody a disservice. How are any of us served well by a producer putting Katja, Leah Luv, or Julia Bond with Mark Wood, but then in the same film putting "Missy Sue from Macon, Georgia" in a scene with De'Wane "The Floppy" Johnson who's catch phrase is "Can yous SEEEEEEEE! This white bitch! I.... bees.... fuckiiiin(for 4 minutes till I pop premature)" for her 1st IR in life? When it's clear "Missy Sue" would have performed better with Mark Wood and the 1st 3 would have loved nothing more than to work with the black male talent.

Don't misunderstand me not being 100% for everything IR as me being racist or 100% against everything IR. I'm an old school IR fan from way back. Sean Michaels to me is 1 of the greatest male performers ever white, black, or purple.

AC Cream

Edited by - AC Cream on 12/5/2005 3:17:58 PM

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Huggins293
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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 03:59:15 PM


BSD wrote:


Bill wrote:
Can someone explain to me why it was necessary to revive a 2 year old thread?


Can someone explain to me why we are not asking why more white guys are not doing IR with black women. It is a fucking choice allright. If Devon finds black men unnattractive, does that mean she is a shitty performer? No.

Just because women get far more money than men in porn doesn't mean they are obligated to fuck men they are not attracted to.

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NuTTy_BuDDy
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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 04:43:39 PM
I really don't care how good or bad they are as performers. There's plenty of shitty white males too.

I'm also not as passionate about this subject as yourself. IR doesn't make or break anything in my view. Obviously black guys on white girls and especially white guys on black girls are just a tad bit more interesting to watch. You as a staunch advocate 'for' IR should be able to see that.

I agree with you in one respect. The current state of IR is eeeeh but I think the girls that make that big ‘moral’ decision for themselves and make a big spectacle out of their first "interracial" scene contribute to this. I shouldn't have to give a girl brownie points because she fucked a black guy. I went to school with nothing but frisky white girls. Ironically, all the most popular and more attractive ones associated with black males in some capacity.

I want to make it clear that I don't expect anyone to do anything. I'm a fan of interracial but my stash is pretty much 90% Euro girls and their partners are Euro males 95% of the time. I don't expect a girl based in Budapest to do a slew of interracial, and it's never bothered me because it's really not that big of a deal-to do it or not to do it.

You, the mighty defender of IR, make a big deal about it any chance you get. We're talking porn here. We're talking about letting it all out in front of a camera and taking on all-cummers. You're talking about how sucking off the lone-Tyrone in a blow-bang will effect some girl's family and friends. I imagine being in porn, period, is guaranteed blowback from family and friends but still I'm not as sensitive about the potential 'OMG she fucked a nigger' aspect as you are.

I don't necessarily think there's some big conspiracy against IR but I'm sure plenty of girls are told not to do it. I think the greater percentage just know their role and are effectively doing the same thing, even if they weren't directly told not to do so. US history clearly shows white women/black males is the supreme threat to white masculinity, so the sheer number of white male performers in the biz (lets get rid of some of these bastids!) adds a bit of pressure regardless.

It's as simple as this. The girls that 'know their role' and feel they are more susceptible to humiliation if they fuck a black guy, avoid working with them at all costs. None of my favorite girls seem to have this problem so I’m not that concerned about it.

Moreover, Taylor Rain, currently the best representation of the USA's greatest past time (white supremacy), bumped ugly with a rapper that looks like he has down syndrome. Your “personal preference” argument is moot.

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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 04:56:35 PM


Braintax wrote:
Pathetic thread in my opinion.

... and yes i do sometimes feel people on this board are retarded.


What I find pathetic is the fact that three people are deactivated over an IR thread. It's quite possible if not probable that they violated terms of agreement, but that doesn't change the fact that some people here get all twisted over IR.

In truth, I don't care. If a star does IR, I hope it's because they like IR, not because of pressure or a dollar. I also hope the same applies to those who don't. I wouldn't do anything that I was not comfortable with, but all colors are attractive to me.

There are some non minority performers that look like they got socked with a sock full of nickels, but some beautiful women chose them over some very attractive minority performers.

Either way, all topics of a straight nature should be allowed. Don't get ready to drop the N word everytime IR comes up. If it wasn't popular, it wouldn't sell, and all the top studios do IR and more and more talent is doing IR. My guess is the knuckle heads that used tohate either see the money in it now or have left the biz completely.

FYI, no one seems to get twisted when the "Why Don't These Stars Do Anal" threads.

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JennaRulez2006
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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 04:58:27 PM
Well in general, you live in Toronto, you are a white male, you ain't gettin a date.
Women here prfer black men, european men, white men who act black, but only if you have money will you get a date with a white woman.
Interracial dating is on the uprise and so it is more and more acceptable in porn. Not so much black girls and white guys though. Hardly ever see that here. Asian women and white men yes you see that alot. Black men and white women, the most popular.
So with that being so visable, IR in porn has become more popular.
I am not against it but it sucks that most white women shun white men here. Life as a single guy just gets better LOL.
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bigfil26
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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 07:19:42 PM
Frankly, all the racist talk is ridiculous. It's about personal preference. Maybe some girls aren't interested in doing a black guy. As soon as the NAACP hires a white guy as its president, then we can criticize pornstars for not branching out into other races. It's funny that anytime anyone mutters anything about a different gender that is even in the slightest bit negative, they get slammed for being a racist.

"I don't want to fuck a black guy." I see absolutely no racism in this.

It's no different than a girl not wanting to fuck a guy who's white, or a guy with too much body hair, or a guy who sweats too much, or not let a guy fuck her in the ass, or no different than a male star not wanting to fuck a girl who's over 80.

If Julia Roberts refuses to do a movie about a girl who gets molested as a child, does that make her unsympathetic to victims of this horrible act?

Use your heads people.

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Walter Burns
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IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
11446 Posts
11/02
Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 07:42:23 PM


bigfil26 wrote:
It's funny that anytime anyone mutters anything about a different gender that is even in the slightest bit negative, they get slammed for being a racist.
Actually yes, that is very funny.





dragonsbum said:
“i interpolate this poll to be deciduous and quotidian, as it is pecuniary against the ignorant and the nonsectarian; i am no hemoglobin, but i must abjure the tectonic taxonomy of such a vacuous exercise in euro chicanery.”
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flesheater
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12/05
Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 09:06:34 PM
The most ridiculous aspect of the IR debate is the blatant hypocrisy: Would a black girl refusing to fuck other races be subjected to the same accusations and lynch mob treatment as a white girl? The answer is a resounding no! I can guarantee most proponents of IR -whites included- would even hail her as a 'proud black woman'!

At the end of the day, all the posturing and innuendo about 'racism' and 'KKK' affiliations boil down to a desire to jerk off to white chicks getting boned by black guys, not white guys banging black girls or Asian girls fucking Mexicans or any kind of interracial harmony, equality, brotherhood, etc.

If you get your rocks off watching black poles in white holes, be thankful that you live in an era where the popularity of rap music has catapulted black guys into the top of the sexual food chain. There is plenty of white girls today, in porn and otherwise, who not only fuck black guys but even do it exclusively. Have your fun with them, and stop harassing the ones that...gasp...don't find black guys attractive!

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Faceblaster
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494 Posts
5/04
Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 11:52:34 PM
When a few of these girls do their "Feature Dancing" tour of small town stripclubs, they sometimes hear that they will make less money if they have IR boxcovers and flats on display. I have heard girls repeat this many times. I have also heard the agents who book porngirls on stripclub tours keep track of who does IR and who doesn't. The girls believe it effects their rate and earning potential on a stripclub tour.
Now, how that effects girls who do not feature dance is another question.
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Sheldon
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278 Posts
9/04
Posted - Dec 6 2005 : 08:29:33 AM
The issue has never been about a porn star's refusal to work with someone she or he's not GENUINELY attracted to.

It is about whether or not the talent have a right to LIE about their reasons for avoiding IR.

What's pissing off many black fans and some white fans of conscience is the bullshit excuses the starlets give. The phony claims of death threats, "I-was-raped-by-three-black-men", career going into the tank, working with well-hung white males while brushing off black male talent because "they're all too big", etc.

There's Jenna Jameson going on the Howard Stern show in the 1990s and says she won't work with blacks because she's not attacted to them, but the next year she is seen unable to keep her hands off Dennis Rodman.

There's Asia Carrera working with Rocci Siffredi but not with black men because "they're too big." And she's with MENSA??!!

IR refusers won't get that much of a hassle from fans if they're HONEST about why they refuse. If it's "physical attraction", then let's see them avoid black male talent AND Ron Jeremy. If they're Vivid / Wicked girls, let them cite chapter and verse about said executives telling them that black men are taboo in their made-for-cable product. If it's a starlet who's also a stripper, let's hear the name of the agent who's feeding her all the nonsense about her rate taking a nosedive.

AFAIK, there have never been any cases of white male talent refusing scenes with black female talent.

And yes, Flesheater, black female talent who refuse to work with white male talent on account of race definitely get thumbs down from me.

Edited by - Sheldon on 12/6/2005 8:42:21 AM

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Braintax
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116 Posts
6/05
Posted - Dec 6 2005 : 06:10:03 PM


Sheldon wrote:
The issue has never been about a porn star's refusal to work with someone she or he's not GENUINELY attracted to.

It is about whether or not the talent have a right to LIE about their reasons for avoiding IR.

What's pissing off many black fans and some white fans of conscience is the bullshit excuses the starlets give. The phony claims of death threats, "I-was-raped-by-three-black-men", career going into the tank, working with well-hung white males while brushing off black male talent because "they're all too big", etc.

There's Jenna Jameson going on the Howard Stern show in the 1990s and says she won't work with blacks because she's not attacted to them, but the next year she is seen unable to keep her hands off Dennis Rodman.

There's Asia Carrera working with Rocci Siffredi but not with black men because "they're too big." And she's with MENSA??!!

IR refusers won't get that much of a hassle from fans if they're HONEST about why they refuse. If it's "physical attraction", then let's see them avoid black male talent AND Ron Jeremy. If they're Vivid / Wicked girls, let them cite chapter and verse about said executives telling them that black men are taboo in their made-for-cable product. If it's a starlet who's also a stripper, let's hear the name of the agent who's feeding her all the nonsense about her rate taking a nosedive.

AFAIK, there have never been any cases of white male talent refusing scenes with black female talent.

And yes, Flesheater, black female talent who refuse to work with white male talent on account of race definitely get thumbs down from me.

Edited by - Sheldon on 12/6/2005 8:42:21 AM


Well i totally disagree. Pornstars can do and say whatever they want to say!

I prefer brunettes to blondes. This is my own personal choice. For what its worth ... truth be known i just find brunettes more attractive. But i have the right to give you any reason i please as to why i prefer brunettes. I can tell you that i find that most blondes stink! Its my opnion. And its my right to avoid blondes as such. And if i want to lie about it ... then so be it! Its my right to be able to lie about it.

If guys dont like girls avoiding IR , they can avoid watching and supporting these actresses. That is the pornviewers right! If guys dont like girls lying about why they dont do IR , they can ALSO just stop supporting and buying these girls videos! Easy as that!

And yes! People even have the right to be racist (as long as they dont impose on anyone elses civil rights)! So if a girl is racist and does not want to act with a black guy for that reason and then also wishes to lie about her reasons ... well she can do that to! The girls have their own choices they can make and the viewers have their own choices they can make. It ends there!

Why not start a thread about why pornviewer 'X' doesnt purchase asian porn! The racist! Lets burn him at the stake!

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flesheater
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12/05
Posted - Dec 6 2005 : 06:13:49 PM


Sheldon wrote: And yes, Flesheater, black female talent who refuse to work with white male talent on account of race definitely get thumbs down from me.

Glad to know you feel that way, but I'm sure you know as well as I do that most IR fans do not. I've dealt with too many to not realize that.

p.s. Very well Said, Braintax.

Edited by - flesheater on 12/6/2005 6:24:39 PM

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bigbuttlover
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Los Angeles
261 Posts
4/03
Posted - Dec 6 2005 : 06:42:11 PM
Any girl who refuses to have sex with a black guy is simply a racist. I am a white guy...but come on.

Refusing to have sex with someone because of their skin color? Don't give me crap about maybe they just aren't attracted to black guys....first of all they are getting paid, second, there are some ugly ass white pornstars that they have no problem having sex with.

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Sole Brother
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94 Posts
7/04
Posted - Dec 6 2005 : 08:08:22 PM
I agree with the above posters who say that it's the principle of the issue that bothers them. Obviously, it's the girl's right to refuse to work with anyone. Just like many businesses have those "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" signs. No one has a real problem with that, right? It's their business, they can serve whoever they want to. But, what if they modified the sign a little bit? Let's say it now reads "we reserve the right to refuse service to black people." If you're black and you read that, you might say to yourself... "Hey, why just us?"

Then imagine the business owner says this to you: "I'm not racist or anything. It's nothing personal. I just choose not to serve you. It's my business and my right. If you don't like it, don't patronize my business." Naturally, you won't give that business your money because you felt disrespected. But wait...let's take it one step further. You stick around, just out of curiousity, to see the kind of patrons that the business will serve. Most of them are nice, respectable, and well behaved. But some of them are decidedly not. They trash they place. Treat it disrespectfully. And do so unapologetically. Now you're really pissed. You go into the business and say: "Wait a minute, business owner. You'll let these other people get away with all that nonsense, but I can't come in here because you don't serve blacks? How is that not racist again?" And the business owner says (drumroll please)...

"Because I said it's not racist, remember?"

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Smotherama
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529 Posts
5/05
Posted - Dec 6 2005 : 08:16:09 PM
Makes you think...Does anyone know these particular pornstars who don't do black dick?
For the record I don't do black dick either. I happened to be black and a avid fan of pussy.
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Harry Joystick
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1248 Posts
8/02
Posted - Dec 6 2005 : 08:20:12 PM
A thread started almost 3 years ago...

Either this is the most active thread ever in ADT or someone enjoys rehashing any and all IR related topics no matter how old they are.

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flesheater
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36 Posts
12/05
Posted - Dec 6 2005 : 10:06:52 PM


bigbuttlover wrote:
Any girl who refuses to have sex with a black guy is simply a racist. I am a white guy...but come on.

...And last time I checked, racist beliefs are not against the law. I have met plenty of black/Latin women who will not even look at an Asian or white guy simply because of their skin color. But somehow this becomes a crime of epic proportions only when the girl in question is white.

Now here's your cue to prove me wrong by saying Ron Jeremy is really ugly.

Edited by - flesheater on 12/6/2005 10:14:20 PM

Edited by - flesheater on 12/7/2005 3:38:26 AM

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Ultrasiet2
Wam Bam! Clan

Monique, Ultra, Jesse - bustin' suckas down under!
1721 Posts
12/04
Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 06:41:24 AM
I know why, to answer the original question.

They don't do interracial AT THE MOMENT because they're saving themselves for when Crucifixio Jones declares his entry into the porn industry as a performer.

And who can blame them. We all await the day, m'man.

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Huggins293
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696 Posts
5/04
Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 09:21:13 AM


PornBoy wrote:
Just wondering. I heard Tabitha Steven on Stern not long ago talking about how she won't do interracial but she's nailed Ron Jeremy. Topic Moved by - Steph on Feb 15 2003

Just like most people on this board do not think bias against pornfans is an issue, I don't see interracial as an issue. I think it is far more accepted in porn than in any non-porn entity in America. It is easy for me to find interracial shit. And this notion that white women are doing it for money. That is based on garbage.

There have always been white groupies that lusted for black men especially B-boys since the 80s. So why is it so hard to belief that many white women lust in that same mentality?

I don't see the racism in porn others see. But others don't see the bias toward porn outside the industry that I see. Oh well!

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Huggins293
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696 Posts
5/04
Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 09:22:14 AM


FF>> Button wrote:
A thread started almost 3 years ago...

Either this is the most active thread ever in ADT or someone enjoys rehashing any and all IR related topics no matter how old they are.



If you find the thread annoying don't respond. It would not be rehashed if there were not interest.
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BigFerret
creampie scientist

More red bush please
6895 Posts
10/02
Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 09:27:59 AM


flesheater wrote:
But somehow this becomes a crime of epic proportions only when the girl in question is white.

I agree 100%. And the guy must be black of course.

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NuTTy_BuDDy
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867 Posts
12/00
Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 10:20:25 AM
I don't blame them. I find myself in agreement with any of these nymphomaniacs that intend on dodging black guys their whole career. I stick by my "not a big deal" stance because fucking black dudes is obviously not worth the trouble .

Some girls just don't have the presence or the personality to be one of the best so they get what they can muster then disappear, minimizing their chances of ‘humiliation’. Surely you can't expect to be the best if your "limit" is black guys.

If Taylor Rain (forgive me for even mentioning this girl) was a little more genuine, her fucking a rapper would be nothing, but is it not funny how she ducked the likes of Mr. Marcus and Lex, simply so she could live up to her precious white power/hippie image and please the white men around her?

She was probably unsupervised so that's why she ended up in the arms of one of the people from under the stairs. She wanted to fuck a black guy. Specifically, a dog ugly rapper. I suppose that was her "personal preference". Not any of the more reliable and cuddly black guys from the biz because she has to hide it (at all costs), even though Banks is more likely to have that 'thang' (Repercussions of Groupie Love).

You would think Euro performers have even more of a dilemma but it's pretty much the opposite. Virtually every hot Euro starlet worth mentioning has encountered Teo or whatever non-descript black guy Rocco puts in front of them, and loved it. Maybe even the only black guys they'll ever fuck with. It doesn't make much of a difference.

The GOAT over here is rather tame, commercial and of course evades black men. The GOAT over there is Sylvia Saint. Big difference and I think it permeates throughout our respective industries. Euro girls don't really have the ability to say "give me that big black cock" (effectively at least). They rely on ...enjoying it. For the most part, I think they're much hotter on average and come off as genuine performers that consider "limits" something like double anal.

The way things operate around here just seems a little superficial. I don't blame any of these girls for not fucking black guys though, especially if it's potential humiliation and can ruin their bottom line, but I'm not going to pretend I feel bad for them, or that I even like them. Again, not the most popular but many of the better performers based in the states are genuine like the Euro babes, real titties and everything. All of these newer girls should be striving to be super hot like Delilah Strong or Claire Robbins.

I personally have no complaints about how things are going. I think porn in general is better than it’s ever been. With the right support system or I guess just the presence and personality that nobody even bothers to question, some of these girls know they can make it even better.

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