DVDs released in the last 3-4 years should be able to be purchased in 2020. Are they only doing one run then no more? a particular DVD is basically unavailable on the major sites but selling for $40 from one seller on ADM. After the first run shouldn't it be pure profit now? what's the deal? I've seen the prices DVD replicators charge, it's not expensive. If all the copies in the first run sold in 3 years, isn't that good? Couldn't they licence it to other studios similar to how Hollywood studios give small distributors unpopular titles? or is it stores are pushing them towards VOD while paying 20c on the dollar?
^ while I don't know details, it is my impression that DVDs are only produced in one run anymore, and companies are wary stockpiling huge amounts of discs which could perhaps never sell. And from what I've been reading, the runs they are making are also way down (only a few thousands, not tens of thousands), but that clearly depends on the company. A negative example: PervCity DVDs now are only single-layer DVD-R... apparently they don't deem it financially feasible making a normal run with pressed DVDs.
Generally a label has to press around 1,000 dvds or more per run, to make the per dvd manufacturing cost low enough to be worth the bother. Most adult titles that are a few years old, do not have enough demand to ever be able to ever make back the money they would have to pay a manufacturing plant for a repressing.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jul 27 2020 : 7:43PM
^^ Numbers are hard to come by in the porn industry but apparently even during the gonzo porn peak apparently the average release only sold a few thousand.
I'd love to see pictures of some your guys DVD collections. With everything going Digital, porn is no exception, I only keep digital copies stored on a hard drive as it's much easier to keep discrete and away from family/friends coming across them.
^ Yes. I had a big (for the time) VHS collection back when those were the standard medium. They took up several drawers in a locked filing cabinet. Then, when DVDs came along I discarded the cases and stored them in large DVD holders in a locked drawer. I had maybe 60-80 VHS movies and probably around 300 DVDs. These days however, I have a porn collection bigger that the biggest adult store would have had back in those days on external drives. And the best part? It's discreetly and safely in an innocuous briefcase. These are golden days for us porn fans.
Doesn't it mean trouble for the industry if PC can't get rid of 1,000 pressed discs? does them having a membership/vod program dilute the release? do you know if they promote DVD releases on their twitter? or have DVD only scenes? any BTS extras? director's commentary, something to offer the public more than just web scenes.I understand but 3 years is too short to throw in the towel for a second run. I'm seeing Hollywood titles from 1933 being released in 2020. I think with all the download/streaming they've simple forgotten about us DVD guys. Must the DVD sell out within a certain time frame before they consider it a dud?
It's all well and good that you see Hollywood titles from the 1930s being released on DVD today but why do you think that is? I'd imagine they felt there was enough interest either from market research or sales analysis to put those titles back into press where enough sales out of the minimum order quantity to at least break even. I doubt a market research survey can reach the same number of people eligible to take part as the 1930s title you talk about. Is there any difference in the MOQ or for a mainstream Hollywood studio compared to a porn studio from the same disc pressing company?
Perhaps you're right, some studios may be moving on from DVD. The costs associated with DVD pressing may simply not be worth it for them today as streaming and download options are far more prevalent than 15 years ago.
^^ No, there's absolutely no extra content on the PC dvds. Since it's single layer, bitrate is already very low, you get a DVD-R of questionable durability, not sure if the cover is at least offset-printed or some homemade inkjet stuff. And about bonus materials: forget it. DVD these days is the end of the marketing chain, put out for those who don't have (broad enough) internet.
They do promote them occasionally on their twitter, though, so it's not totally under the radar.
Comparing it with Mainstream Hollywood titles is a bit unfair. a) there's way more interest and more publicity is possible b) the nostalgia effect hardly kicks in with a 3 year old movie c) there's actually sense in putting out audio commentary, never before seen footage etc., nobody is looking for it on a recent porn DVD.
But: it's not that mainstream DVDs aren't in trouble, too. Just read through various DVD forums, thedigitalbits.com etc: lots of back catalog titles are not released at all or released as disc-on-demand (DVD-R), and with more and more people opting for streaming, it's not likely to change. And with mainstream DVDs, there's also the case where titles get out-of-production, and you can only find them on ebay where the seller charges an arm and a leg for it.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jul 31 2020 : 10:07PM
Not too many people left who are interested in 1930s films due to nostalgia, that was 90 years ago. Older films have film fans of all ages these days.
Not sure about the numbers on terms of sales but these days film fans pretty much demand blu-ray over DVD. Some lesser known films are only available via small batch runs via services like Warner Archive.
Classic porn fans (1970s-early 80s) also prefer blu over DVD but the cost of releasing films on blu is apparently rather steep so companies like Vinegar Syndrome only release select titles on blu and the lesser known titles on DVD. The market for classic porn though is smaller than say the trash horror films they also put out.
I would guess these days the audience for gonzo porn may even be smaller than the audience for classics?