2 yes please hands off the ass while in cowgirl
I want to see the ass bounce and move plus you mess up her pace by trying to change it with your hands...let the lady do her thing

3 it used to be one girl could squirt now ever dam women in porn can do it..these same stars were around when that lone squirter was doing her thing..my point no more faking it.

4 Stop just getting any old girl off the street porn stars used to be sexy fine cute etc....i see some now i ask how ?
The Soso looking porn star does it all now. Make the Sexy fine cute etc...porn star do it all. the only reason this Vanilla Sex shit works it cause the girls doing it look good..Stop Vanilla sex make them fuck again

just my views

rojo

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There is only one out and it wasn't as good as most of us were expecting. I wish that there be some director who would tap into this hidden resource someday.

2. I wish that more directors/producers would bring some quality black lesbian entertainment to the table.

As much as there is out there, it's just the same old repititious, mechanical, boring crap. Bring something different to the table every now and then. Most of the women always have this look on their face like they can't wait until it's over. This is definately a must!

3. If the girl is getting off into another girls foot, sucking her toes and licking her soles then I think that she should at least use her feet as a means to cum.

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A an example of this is the whole "ass to mouth" phenomenon. That basically started as a discussion topic on the old RAME group on Usenet. There were people obsessed with this and even back then some insiders read RAME (though not as many as read this site). Now there is practically a genre devoted to ATM.

Just look at how closely Brandon Iron monitors this site. He even posted that he booked a girl on the recommendation of a poster.

Now, I don't think we have much hope of changing Steve Hirch's mind, but there is a good chance that producers of smaller lines are paying attention. I think that there is even an argument that with the hyper competitive nature of the current porn market that they basically have to pay attention.

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1. More time in getting to know one another before the act; dating interview (10 minutes to 15). The seduction.

2. Cover the taken off of clothing and then the re-clothing back.

3. Short maybe funny line or two before end of scene.

In other words; more intimate setup so you can get into it more. Most videos now are so cruel; no pretense at all; just out and out sex; with shots that concentrate on the anal or vagina areas at 3" shooting distance; almost all the time; and spend on maybe 4-5 seconds looking at the females facial expression and then back to the 5 minutes of close up on the sex act again. It should be a wider shot and maybe 5-6 seconds on the close up and most the time on the wide angle.

Also, there are big gaps you can see where on penis; it is hard and wet and then it is soft and dry again. Better preparation would make it more real! The director should watch the end of the scene before going forth with the shoot to get the staging more continuous. Also, have some dialog going while having sex.

I like Ed Power's and Rodney Moore for the way they interact with the partners during the scenes. It get adds to the intenseness. Rocco is the king of this; while most of it is slaps and pulling of the hair. Most scenes in substandard porn (90%) are completely void of any dialog at all; it like the silent movie era. Alot of animal type sound come out however!

That my view of it!

I like to add; get rid of the music. It is so distracting to the over all atmosphere of the scene. May times I come across where I end up muting the DVD it is so bad.

I could continue on and on but you get the point! More acting and better scripts are call for but keep the intensity of the sex act going!

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2 - keep clothes/lingeie etc on

3 - more invetive places...outside etc

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2) Release more quality anal POV lines

3) Include the music on/off option like Anabolic/Diabolic

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2. Less sport-fucking and more reasonably authentic sexual situations. It really bums me out to see so many scenes where an already erect and naked guy just walks up to a woman and commences fucking without so much as a hello. Even for gonzo, there should be more of a prelude to the sex than that. It just takes all of the soul out of the scene for me.

3. The complete eradication of "whore-wear". I wish just for one year we could do without the neon-colored fishnet tops and see-through pumps. What's wrong with "normal" lingerie or even swimwear?

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We must have been drinking from the same batch of Koolade. Cuz you managed to hit just about all of the black male performers that I don't care for in one sentence. If you'd added Julian St. Jox and Tee Reel to that crew, I'd know that we were siblings from different mothers.

There's a lot of brothers in porn that I think are pretty good, but none of them are in that lineup you mentioned.

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Julian St. Jox is still drawing the occasional porn paycheck. WCP, Evasive, JM, and a couple of other porn houses are still throwing him a bone every now and then. And I'm pretty sure he's getting some internet work. Probably cuz he was a Porn O.G., and still remembers how to hit his marks.

The only things I've seen him in recently, are orgy scenes and the occasional gang bang scene. They can probably limit his exposure in those and edit things out if it's too unusable. After I saw him damn near have a heart attack on a girl in a WCP boy-girl one-on-one scene about a year ago, I think most directors decided that was enough of that. He just can't carry those scenes anymore. You're right, his days as a productive woodsmen are long past, especially were he to get in alone with some of the freakier girls in porn now, and he's really out of shape to be doing this.

But we digress...

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Ok i know that i'm not answering the question properly but she has stated that she'd like to work with Rocco most of all before she retires. She's after the nastiest experience. Do us all a favour Rocco and see to it please!!!!

Thanks

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2. HOLD THE SHOT!!! Stop bouncing the camera around to the girls face, ass, stomach, chest, guys face, etc. NO! Get the best shot you can possibly get and hold it. Then get the next best shot you can get and hold it. If its not worth holding, don't put it in the film cause it sucks. 20 minutes of a dick in a vagina close up isn't worth holding so stop showing it. Unless you are a good director, don't shoot a scene with two girls in it, you will mess it up. Why? Cause which shot do you hold? You are forced to bounce around, to one girl, to the other girl. Then back. Then the bad two mile out shot of the entire room that is unstrokeable. It just doesn't work well. Instead split it up into two scenes. Focus on one girl at a time instead of ruining it. What happens is you get the hotter of the two girls in a great position and suddenly you are forced to pan over to the other girl cause she's left out too long.

3. If it's a school girl themed, cheerleader themed, panty themed, or other themed film, they better keep their clothes on during some of the sex or you created trash. You have completely lost the entire point of why anyone buys those themed films. If you take a 25 year old pornstar and put her in a cute little 18 year old school girl outfit and she takes it off, guess what, she now looks like she's 25!! You just ruined your own film by doing that. She should leave the skirt on, leave the stockings on, leave at least something on to keep it on theme.

4. Tell your crappy camera guys to shut the hell up. It's bad enough they can't hold the shot and it's bad enough they are bouncing the camera around and are zooming in all over the place. Nobody wants to hear them talking to the girls for 5 minutes before each scene. For one, you can tell the girls feel uneasy about it and the sex suffers because of it. And secondly, that's time that can be spent on the pornstars getting to know each other, foreplay and sex. Get the pornstars to talk to each other during the sex. While the guy is kissing on the girl and fingering her, have the interview going on if you want. The cameraguy always asks stupid questions and the girl is forced to say, "I dunno". It's like she's saying what the hell are you talking about and I can't wait to finish this scene and get out of here because you are annoying. I'm just saying what It looks like. So stop it!!!

5. Try to create a few scenes where the guy doesn't eat out the girl!! Is it possible that not all guys like eating out girls or want to see that? I don't want to see a guys head next to the girls pussy while I'm stroking it. Keep that for the girl porn. Create some lesbian porn and throw a guy in there who never fucks the girl but just eats her out for 20 minutes. But don't put that in my porn. A lot of the pornstars out there, particularly the older ones have ugly pussies. They have brown patches on the lips, they are really loose or wider than the rest of the girls or have lips that hang out so far they could be dicks. It's not good for a comparison to show one hot girl with the perfect pussy who's 18 then show a girl who's 30 getting eatin out who has an uglier pussy is what I'm saying. I could have gotten off on certain scenes but they showed me a close up of the girls pussy and it was nasty. I can't stroke it to a guy who's eating out a girl who has pussy lips that look like a bulldog has been chewing on them.

6. Put makeup on and cover up!!! If a girl has bad acne and bruises, put some makeup on her, dim the lights a little bit and put more clothing on her. If she's got sagging nasty ass breasts, make her keep a bra on. If she's got stretch marks, consider putting a skirt on her. If she looks too old for your teen line, she better be wearing some teenie clothes. Don't you dare push her out there with no clothes on!! Stop this bullshit. Take out just a little effort to maintain the illusion if it's possible ok. My point is nobody is perfect, but you can create some hollywood magic. I've seen the older girls in films look trashy and ugly and in other films look really pretty and sexy. If you take some time out to adjust you can still shoot those girls and not waste a scene.

7. Stop with the lesbian scene inserts!! Mostly guys are watching these films and for the girls that are watching it too, they are probably straight. And if they are gay, they probably don't want to see a guy in their film so they are going all G/G with strapons and the whole sha-bang. So in a porno designed primarily for guys, stop inserting lesbian scenes in it!!! The only reason guys like seeing that is because we want to join in. I cannot stroke it to that. The whole time I'm waiting for a guy to show up and when he never does I think what a waste of two hot girls. DO NOT DO IT! If you have to do it, you better give the girls strap-ons, dildos, vibrators, whip cream, some hot fudge, and a trampoline to squirt all over..ok. Because it's going to take a lot more than two girls touching themselves to get most heavy porn watchers aroused enough to bust a load.

8. Stop shooting diagonal angles!! Adjust your camera, get a fucking ladder if you have to. The girls head should always be at the top of my screen. I want to see what the guy is seeing. If you have to, get a chair, stand on it over the guys shoulder and shoot the scene.

9. Stop with the DP. Where is the girl at!! How come she's not moving at all. You know how the eyes work, you look at stuff that is moving. If only the guys are moving I can't help but to start looking at the guys. Then I notice that they are hairy. Then I notice that one of the guy's legs is blocking my view of her body. It sucks and is rarely done well so don't do it.

10. Stop with the girls spitting on the camera lens, squirting on the camera lens or whatever else and licking it off. Basically what you've done is taken the sex, stopped it for her to give a BJ then to spit on the camera. You then wipe it off, back to BJ, then back to sex. In that whole time you lost me. You ruined the pace again.

11. Make more couples sex for guys. Hugging, kissing, the girl saying "I love you", smiling, happy sex. Passionate. During sex if the girl says "don't stop", don't fucking stop. Not only keep going, go faster, show some effort and dig in and hold the position. And the girl shouldn't stop talking there, throw in "it feels so good".

12. There are sex lines that you can always use. You can use them in every single scene on your film and it would be ok because they are coming from different girls with different voices that say things differently. It's ok if they all say "fuck me" "it feels so good" "don't stop" "harder" "faster" "i think i'm going to cum" "it's so deep" "i love you" "oh my god" "your so amazing" "don't stop daddy" "is this what you want" "you like that" "is it too tight" "mmmm...that feels so good." It's so basic and so simple yet it doesn't happen.

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ad 1: boring IMHO (or maybe I missed something: "don't pull out for an ATM" )
ad 2: you can't plan this, so it takes 1.more camera's or 2.waste of footage; definitely it ruins spontaneity
ad 3: "ruined your own film by doing that" ???: just look for an other movie that will fit your fantasy, don't try to ban all other options (The American Illness)

my 3 picks:
1. more rimming / gaping / ATM, not as feature, but integrated in the flowing of the act
2. more gobs and rivers of saliva and spew that drown from performers while sucking deeeep (sorry BSD ...)
3. make things more spontaneous / going-with-the-flow: stop editing out 'unwanted' (I've to respect the 'un-lawful') material

Oh: my supplier will be happy to provide me with DVD's that'll actually function properly (all 8 recent Dia/Ana movies were postponed while having all stereo signals on the left channel / all recent Elegants were sent back be course of wrong pull-down mastering / all recent Extremes were sent back be course of blocking / most of recent WestCoastProds have lossy chapter mastering / ....: losers)

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2. Why can't you plan this? Directors all over the place have planned it. You tell the girl what you want, you tell them to hold the angle, you get it setup then you start shooting and say "action". Suddenly you got the exact position you want and you hold the shot. The director has to remember that the pornstars can't see what the audience is seeing. So it's up to the director or cameracrew to work that out. If they notice the girl turning her ass away from the camera or notice the guys leg blocking the shot, they should do something about it. They can either do a setup prior, talk about what they want to see, do a quick rehearsal or they can yell cut and start from the top. It doesn't have to ruin the spontaneity if the director is any good they will prep the pornstar prior. Maybe 3 quick rehearsals prior. We start like this, we move to this, then this, then this, "now show me what I just told you." Suddenly you are "directing". They can then run with it confidently knowing that they are in sync with what the director is looking for.

3. I will ban it and I will ignore it because it is trash. Putting a cheerleader skirt on a girl and then taking it off within the first minute before the sex starts is stupid. All the studios are doing it. You say look for something else, there really is nothing else. They all keep creating the same tired shit. They dress these girls up in the most sexy outfits and then take it all off!!! Why do you think the Trained Teen series was so popular! Because of the collars, the skirts, the sexy clothing left on. I don't see why they don't get that.

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ad 2: simple: no great fucking possible (not real / not in movie) when you've to plan: when do you have 'the best shot', when and where is the next and how do you know it's the best ... no, no, no, just go with the flow

ad 3: "I will ban it and I will ignore it" is laughable, and to primitive a reaction. Try again .

Look again: from the 10,000 or 100,000 new vids each year there's definitely something for you. Or else you're blessed being a severe minority, but regretfully unseen by the marketing geniuses of the porn industry.

Shit, I just bought some Trained Teen vids ...

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I'm a brand-newbie here, and I'd definitely like to chime in on this one. I'll get straight to my points:

Avoid quick cuts. There's nothing worse than really digging a scene, only for it to cut to a new (often shitty) angle after only 10 seconds. Oh....and, avoid shitty angles while your at it.

When a guy is eating a woman out, I want to see her pussy, not his cheek/beard. Stick that tongue way out, and pull away often so that we can both marvel in its beauty.

Don't have quick fade-aways after the cum shot, DAMMIT! Have her play with the cum and his dick for at least 30 seconds. I don't want to cum at the beginning of the next scene, right when the guy is walking into the seemingly-empty house.

Sorry to say this, but, in my opinion, most of the women in porn (at least that I've seen) don't give the kind of blow jobs that I want to see; I am sure that her bj would "feel" great, but it is pretty boring to look at. I want it to be intense, and at least somewhat sloppy.

I love to hear dirty talk, when the woman really seems to mean it, but I don't want to hear her talk if she sounds fake; Phony dirty talk is very obvious, and can ruin porn.

I don't want any obstructions getting in the way of seeing the woman's pussy....not even her finger (sorry, ladies). I love to see a woman spread her pus, and play with herself some, but it's annoying when she's covering it up while masterbating.

I don't want to see guys jerking off (seeing myself is enough, thank you :) A woman jerking a guy off is a big turn-on though, especially if she is good at talking dirty.

I really like seeing a guys cock pull out a few inches and the go back in (and maybe just a few dick slaps, as well), which allows for a good close-up view of her pussy and/or asshole, or allows her to pull the cock out of her mouth long enough to say how much she loves it; in other words, this method works very well for all 3 inputs.

Great dildo action is wonderful -- though rare; such action is usually shot from a bad angle. Also, the comment immediately above applies here, too....and is even more important with this act.
I don't want to see male butt, and I don't want to hear the dude talk. Save that for porn catering to relevant women.
Spitting doesn't do anything for me. Some saliva dripping during a blowjob is great, though.
I want to think of myself as younger and exceptionally virile while watching porn :) Hire dudes that can actually "shoot" a load.
Amplify sex act noises....even the queefs. Pan down the music, and the fake moans.
Stop lingering on bad dp shots (among numerous other kinds) way too long.
Don't have outdoor scenes in the sun, which washes out the scene with way too much light
I'd like to see more shots of the woman's legs hiked up, under various circumstances.
Get those panties off quickly. Don't just pull them to the side.
Use makeup to cover zits.
Don't have really fast humping. It's distracting.
I don't want to hear any crew members. STFU!
I don't want to see interviews.
Guys....keep your hands off her tits and ass. I want to see the T&A, not your manicure.
It's very rare for me to dig a lesbian scene, due to reasons like some of the ones described above.
Lastly, great chemistry between stars can make a world of difference.

If you made it this far into my rant, then thanks for taking the time....

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2. Hire somebody who knows how to light a scene to make skin look good, not just flat and washed out.

3. Hire my favorite actresses at least once a month.

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but also, men cumming, not by their own hands...please?
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So:
1) Not only do women need to have orgasms, but there need to be the occasional scenes where the boy(s) come and then the action continues until the girl does. I only remember seeing this once, in a Service Animals scene (w/Roxy Jezel, I think)

2) Tribbing!

3) Men without goatees.

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* deep breath *

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

I HATE that with a capital HATE. If you can't deepthroat without the gl-gl-gl-gl noises, then you have no business deepthroating, especially on camera.

#2 (since that last one was #1): Rip off the clothing. That's the teasing I want to see. I want the dude so fucking turned on and ready to fuck that chick that he can't take the time to properly undress her. I want to see him tear the clothes off.

#3 Over the knee spanking. There is plenty of spanking during sex, as well as spanking titles without sex. I want to see a fuck flick with the girl bent over the KNEE and getting her ass spanked while the guy has all his buddies turn their attention away from the football game to fuck her mouth while she is over her boyfriend's knee. Shit, I hope he doesn't read this. Fuck. I need to stop drinking. Really.

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2) Lay off the in-your-face camera footage. Part of the reason why the women seem to be performing for the camera is the fact that the camera is right in their faces.

3) Stop forcing trailers on us!

* MD James

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More Vaginal gapping Closeups.

More clothed scenes (like skirts/ short shorts)

get rid of those funky ass clear highheels these women wear today, and bring back the sexy heels from the 80's (much sexier heels back in those days!!)

More scenes with women in sport Uniforms (like soccer, football, Volleyball, Ect...

Less anal and more vaginal scenes

less of that crappy porn music and more of the Natural sounds of "sex"

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I kind of like it when girls show their teeth in porn. More dick biting maybe? Just chomp right into it!! Not into ball punching but dick biting seems kind of nice. Who's with me on that??? Anyone?

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4) More 1 on 1 scenes and much less cock in scenes. 1 suffucient. I have no interest in DP or seeing more cock than ass and pussy.

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Let the pubes grow every now and again. Not to Don King in-a-scissor-lock length, but just enough for that area to look like it belongs to a woman. Shaved snatch, fake tits and fake blonde hair is boring.

Only facefuck the girls that sink it all the way. A skull fuck with a girl that can only take half the dick is really just pointless.

More salad tossing. Maybe I only like this because it proves that the girl is down for anything, but I find very sexy if a girl is giving head and she just sort of goes all the way down.

Tanlines and natural tans. So fucking hot.

I am bothered by a man's asshole and balls taking up the top 1/2 of the screen.

Enough of guys jerking off to pop. Yeah, I'm sure that it's not always possible, but if the chemistry between the sucked and the suckee is there, let her suck him 'till he pops.

Get some of these bitches to start lifting weights. A woman with ripped abs (ala Rebecca Lord) or a visibly strong back and ass is sexy.

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1. More abuse to women. I love seeing some chick be spit on, slapped, choked, etc while being stuffed with cock or have a guy shove his big foot in her mouth and/or other holes.

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Seems we've come full circle to wind-up right back at square-one. Not surprised this thread never went anywhere the first time out now. I guess as fans, we all want it all. Some want it softer, some want it somewhere in the middle, while others want to take-it-to-the-limit.

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2 More creative "pick-up" or "intro" scenes, I know it must be hard completely avoid cliches, but at least try

3 More thick girls (not BBW or fat) just thick

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2 - sex scenes in real places, outdoors, nightclub

3 - start fully clothed

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All nude sucks, more Jules Jordan style scenes with sexy clothes.

More wet scenes. Wet hair, wet bodies, wet clothes. I'm tired of all the dry sex. Make a mess with something like paint or food or whatever.

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I started with the BTS scene of Nadia Styles which was a tease, bj, quickie fuck. I was thinking it would be cool if DVDs started off with the hottest girl in a quick scene leaving the viewer wanting a lot more...then end it with a full scene.

I know I've seen some hot BJ only scenes that end and you think, damn..is that it? I was hoping for more. The only problem is that there isn't anymore, she's gone. So what you do is create that illusion of that's it of her..then you bring her back in the end for a full scene.

I think after watching the BTS scene first of a quickie fuck of her in POV style I was left wanting more that when I saw her on the DVD in her full scene it seemed a lot hotter. It kind of built up some momentum for her.

So I'd recommend start with a hardcore tease/quickie intro where the goods are tested out just to get the viewer worked up. Have the guy quickly cum to end the tease intro, then switch to another girl and bring that girl back to close it off with a full scene. Just a suggestion.

Edited by - danceswithporn on 10/16/2006 1:58:23 PM

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I like the petite (short) chicks and, not only are the 10" platforms uglier than a 2-dollar dog, they make my little cutie wobble around at about 6-foot tall.

Unh-uh. Ugly and stupid.

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So what does the director do, does he ignore it, maybe shoot around it or does he make her turn around and show her peeling red skin on camera and comment on it????

Sure enough, you get to check out her red pealing skin. I think he even jokes about it, for all those skin peeling fetish guys out there..here you go.

I'd rather not see that. The scene was pretty damn good regardless and the way it was shot, I never noticed. So I don't see why that had to get shown in the intro. Not very sexy if you ask me.

Another thing Zero Tolerance has done in the past, and they don't do it as much is they have a policy of zero to few tatoos. Which is nice, but when a girl has a tatoo, they usually talk about it also. They'll say something like, we usually don't have tatoos...but...let's look at it.

I say just ignore the flaws or if they are so bad, don't cast the girl or don't show it on camera.

Edited by - danceswithporn on 10/16/2006 4:52:17 PM

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Actually this is also for the occasional studio who puts out a DVD with no cast list on it. Get with the program. This is like making a road atlas and not numbering the highways on it.

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I suspect that along with this transition will come a new standard for TVs that says that the new normal tv will have movie screen dimensions.

I have not heard anything about computer monitors changing, but I suspect that ultimately this will lead to a clash of formatting between computer screens and tvs.

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