Who are Opie & Anthony? everyone should know that them. They're on XM ch.202 from 7-11am(live).
So let me get back to the topic. Since Opie & Anthony been on XM, there been a few pornstars like Sunset Thomas, Mary Carey, Tawny Roberts, Stormy, Voilet Blue, Lauren Phoeinx, and etc. In my opinion that's sound like a fewest pornstars go on O&A, but The big name and little name pornstars go on Howard, cause Howard is too popular for porn in general. So if Jenna Jameson and Savanna Samson plug their new flim "The New Devil & Miss Jones" on O&A, I can be happy for once. So come on girls....Howard sucks and O&A are so much gooder. Is there any pornstars, who would go on Opie & Anthony for once?
Opie & Anthony really don't care all that much about getting porn stars on the show. Stern likes to find somethng weird about porn stars and exploit that thing in some kind of a bit or keep hammering at a single point in an interview. The O&A show is completely different from that.
The O&A show is more like a group of friends hanging out at a bar having fun. O&A rarely "interview" their guests. They would rather have the guests participate as a member of the show than come in to be interviewed. Mary Carey and Sunset Thomas were both very good in that role. However, I think that the fact that Mary came in with a very drunk Tawney Roberts (who claimed that she was sober) had something to do with Mary's ability to become "one of the boys" that day.
The time that Brandon & Hillary were on was interesting. But a lot of that had to do with the fact that Opie & Jim Norton had just finished having a HUGE fight on the air and that they were in the studio with Jay Mohr, who's a regular guest and kind of took over the show after the fight.
However, more times than not, porn stars are not able to contribute at that level. I just don't see O&A actively recruiting porn stars for their radio show on a regular basis.
I think you should have ended it right there because Opie and Anthony are nobodies compared to Stern. Stern is listened to by millions of people and even when he goes to Sirius, he will be continued to be listened by MILLIONS.
I think porn stars should write here to determine which show they have had more fun at or who would consider going to which show.
While I do agree with you that porn stars should do more of Opie and Anthony, they should be doing Stern even more.
If anyone goes on any of the shows, they should promote it here, so we can listen in and determine who really is better with PORN STARS?
BILL WROTE: However, more times than not, porn stars are not able to contribute at that level. I just don't see O&A actively recruiting porn stars for their radio show on a regular basis.
I do agree with you "I just don't see O&A actively recruiting porn stars for their radio show on a regular basis". I would like O&A have pornstars, sometimes on their radio show, but not a regular basis...please!
Well, he's only listened to by less than 1/3 the number of people who used to listen to him in the mid-late 90's and that number is about to drop even more.
When he was at his tops he had 18 million listeners. Yet his movie only did $40 million worth of business. At a conservative $5 per ticket, that means that less than half his listeners were willing so spend any money to see him in a movie.
Why should anyone expect a larger percentage than that to pay a minimum of $12.95 per month (current subscription price, Sirius has indicated that they will raise subscription rates when Stern starts) to listen to him on the radio? Surveys have said that about 20% of his current listeners plan on following him to satellite. It will be tough to pay for a $100 million show with 1.2 milllion listeners.
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Posted - Aug 26 2005 : 3:03AM
I would never have considered Howard. He's just as likely to make a fool out of the porn people as not.
Opie and Anthony, while also very sarcastic, don't seem to have it as an agenda to do everything they can to make porn girls seem even more stupid than they would normally.
Someone at Stern tried to get one of my friend's contact information. I told them to get lost.
All I remember about being on the Opie and Anthony show was Jay Mohr looking at Hillary Scott like a wolf looks at a lamb. It almost became a bonus scene, if you know what I mean.
You could almost see that look through the radio. It's hard to believe that Jay is that over the top with Nikki Cox waiting at home for him (especially since she has her own XM Satellite radio and is a fan of the show herself).
She was on the show with Jay a couple of weeks ago when the O&A were in LA for the X-Games. Let's just say that Nikki is a good egg.
The whole point is that the reason why so little porn stars go on opie and anthony is because they are not famous.
HOWARD STERN IS!!!
Howard began getting porn stars on his show and others in the industry have followed. AND STILL- not many give howard the recognition he deserves. He has done good for many porn stars and the only reason he ridicules porn stars is because they do it. They go on howard wanting to be porn star beauty queen, and doing anything to get a plug and more importantly because they get national air time.
He is not making fools out of people if they are willing to make fools out of themselves.
Stern is so important to some that Tawny Roberts was seen outside the Stern building a few weeks ago two days in a row trying to get on the show- who was making a fool out of who?
Opie and Anthony do not know how to utilize porn stars the way that howard does, that makes these stars want to get on the Stern show...
Howard Stern is big, oooh...! Howard been going down under since his movie "Private Parts". Opie & Anthony are big on Satellite radio, not Howard when ever he that ugly fuck comes.
When Opie & Anthony had Sunset Thomas doing the news, that was fucking funny!
mgavin is either an O & A shill (I.E., he's here advertising for them) or a major Howard Stern hater.
No one has done what HS has done for radio. No one has had the diversity of guests he has had, both porn and non-porn. No one has legitimized porn like he has.
If you don't like his style, you don't have to listen... But dont try to minimize what he's done. Howard Stern is a true innovator.
...who has been neither entertaining nor relevant for years. I used to be a huge Stern fan. I started listening when he was on WNBC in the early 80's and continued through the middle of 2004. I can honestly say that in the last year that I listened to Stern, I don't remember laughing even once. At the same time, I regularly turned his show off to listen to music. The only reason that I continued to listen was that there was nothing else on.
Howard Stern has turned into the type of host that he used to make fun of. He used to rail on Johnny Carson for only working 4 days a week and taking so much vacation "If he hates his job so much that he can't work a full week, he should quit."
However, once Howard goes to Sirius, he will be working 4 day weeks with 10 weeks of vacation there. So, let's see, 10 weeks off gets us down to 42 weeks of show and 1 day off for each of those 42 weeks is another 7 weeks of vacation time. So, Howard's show will actually be on for 35 weeks of the year. Why would someone want to pay to listen to a full 52 weeks of Stern on satellite when they are only going to get about two thirds of that?
Last September, I got XM and started listening to the Comedy Channel on the way to work. Then in October, Opie & Anthony started on XM. I haven't turned XM 202 off since. I've laughed out loud listening to O&A over the last 10 months that I did in the entire 20 years listening to Stern. I've also gotten more relevant information from the few porn stars that O&A have interviewed, both at AEE and in the studio, than I ever got from Stern porn star interviews.
As far as who is funnier, they are both funny shows-but who is BIGGER? Howard Stern is the national star-and there is a reason that the Howard Stern show is getting paid half a Billion dollars for a 5 year contract for " 35 weeks" of radio a year. As far as porn stars go, no one is holding a gun to their head forcing them to go on and have one of Howard's lackeys vomit on their feet. Howard has had more porn stars on his show in the last 5 years than any other show has had in their entire run. He single-handedly made Jenna Jameson a star-she went from being a c-list celeb to the Biggest porn star in history-and she herself has even stated that if it wasn't for Howard-she would not be where she is today. Is the show funny as it used to be?-Well, that's a matter of opinion-but you cannot discredit what the show has done for the adult industry.
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Posted - Aug 27 2005 : 1:26PM
I love this. I don't have XM radio as yet but I was hooked on O&A when they were on WNEW. I've hated Stern since the early 70's when he and Imus were on WNBC, which was ostensibly a top 40 rock station at the time. Couldn't stand Imus either. What cracks me up is that Stern's fans are as paranoid about O&A as Howard is. He didn't invent his style of radio. He owes as much to Imus as O&A owe him. At least they've been gracious and honest enough to acknowledge the debt. As far as presenting pornstars, O&A used to get pretty silly with the wiffle ball bat challenge, but I would have liked to been listening when Brandon Iron was there because they were very impressed by Slap Happy . They didn't know who Mike Stefano was (Luciano, at the time), but they warmed right up to him when he told them he was friends with the guy who made those videos.
No he's not. That figure is the entire budget for the show over 5 years including equipment and salaries of everybody associated with the show.Name 1 porn star that he started having on in this time frame, where appearing on his show has helped her career. (Don't try Savanna Samson. She started coming on his show in the 90's).Yes. That was back in the late 90's, when he was still worth listening to.
I listen to and enjoy both shows, but occasionally, Howard irritates the hell out of me with his blatant ignorance on some topics. And talk about self-centered! He's raised it to an art form the way he ignores, talks over or dismisses anything he doesn't want to hear. Ok, now it sounds like I'm bashing him, which wasn't my point. I've been listening so long he's like family, but he's been coasting the last few years, IMO. But in his heyday, he was the innovator and the master. He may not have invented it all, like he says he has, but he contributed so much that he re-invented his form of talk radio.
O&A admittedly aren't as big as Howard. They haven't been around as long and they were never syndicated as broadly as Howard when they were on terrestrial radio. Now at XM, they are nationwide but the audience is limited to XM's subscriber base. But currently, they've got the better show. I like the casual vibe and their ability to do both intelligent and moronic radio. When you've been listening a while and you in on the constant flow of inside jokes, the show just ROCKS.
Back to the actual topic of porn stars as guests - Howard, Opie and Anthony all say they watch porn, but it's clear they do not follow porn. Howard has stated he watches it on Pay Per View and chooses it based on the descriptions, not the names. The O&A show gets boxes of porn DVD's from their friends and contacts and the hosts pick and choose what they want. Aside from someone like Jenna, they don't know the names of the performers or directors and they don't assume a porn star would make a good radio guest JUST because she's a porn star.
Howard will have porn stars on only if there's a gimmick that makes that performer stand out, (for example, willing to talk about sex with a celebrity) or if the show is putting on a game / competition and needs naked girls or a girl willing to offer sex as a prize. When he does interview the girls, based on the fact that he knows nothing about them or their work, he falls back on the same bunch of questions he asks EVERY porn star. Like, how old were you when your uncle first molested you?
You should really read what I write before you respond-I didn't say Howard himself was getting half a Billion-I said the "Howard Stern show". As for the COUNTLESS porn stars that are guests of the show, it is not up to Howard to make them "stars"-that is their job-as they are only on the show to promote whatever it is they are promoting, just like every other guest on every other show. You don't blame Jay Leno when Rob Schneider is a guest and Deuce Bigalow 2 bombs! Howard recently had Vivid's Love Twins on just mere days ago, they both had a dry personality and were quite boring to say the least. I don't see that appearance jump starting their career-Jennifer Steele was on Howard less than 2 weeks ago promoting her Mexican gangbang-why? She needed Mexicans to be in it-She could've went on other shows like O&A-but the turnout would've been less than par. Paul Fishbein goes on Howard's show every year with diff porn stars to promote the AVN expo-why? Again, same reason. I am not partial to either Howard or O&A-I listen(ed) to both when they were on terrestrial radio-but I dont plan on paying to listen to either one of them!
But you said that the Howard Stern show was getting "paid" a half billion. That's still incorrect. It's the budget of the entire show including the studio, equipment, travel budget, etc... The people associated with the show are getting paid nowhere near $100 million a year.The point of the thread is why porn stars go on Howard's show rather than Opie & Anthony's show. If Howard has had more porn stars on in the last 5 years than any other show has had in its entire run and you can point to none of them to show how being on Howard's show has helped their career, it makes the point that going on Howard's show is a complete waste of time for porn stars.When you listen to terrestrial radio, you are "paying" to listen just by sitting through all of the commercials. The only commercials on O&A are to allow them time to take bathroom breaks when necessary. When O&A were on WNEW, they were playing 19 minutes of commercials an hour. Now, they play about 3-4 minutes per hour. I'll gladly pay for that.
Like paying for HBO, I am also paying for freedom from censorship by the FCC. I'll also gladly pay for that. 20 years ago, there were people who said "TV is supposed to be free. I'm never going to pay for Cable." What percentage of those people do you think are still saying that.
Disclaimer: With regard to commercials, it appears that, to cover the large investment that they've committed to the Howard Stern Show, Sirius is going to still be selling a lot of commercial time on Howards show.
Yes, I used to listen to Stern. But, when O&A came I was hooked all the way. Howard's a pussy since He'd ran to his boss then put a gag order on O&A back 5 years ago.
Back to the topic. I like to see Savanna Samson or Jenna Jameson come on O&A, when the one of them are so post been on Howard, that day. The look on Howard's face would be priceless...what do I mean "Pissed".
When Jenna Jameson & Savanna Samson's new flim "THE NEW DEVIL AND MISS JONES" comes out in Sept. We see if they jump to O&A and plug their flim or go to Howard like as always.
My point from the beginning was that Sirius is shelling out $500 million for Howard's program-and in all actuality, no other program-at least not in satellite radio-has concocted that large amount of a deal, and the reason being-they believe he is worth it! I already stated why porn stars go on Howard rather than O&A, he has more listeners-so people like Victoria Givens or Jennifer Steele who are gathering for their gangbangs go on and become heard. Their appearance might help their career, it might not. But if you search through random porn stars' websites or even the AVN magazine-you will see many stars and even companies(on their dvd ads) use "as seen on the Howard Stern show"-so they certainly deem that it has helped a little. FYI: Jesse Jane & Carmen Luvana are slated to promote "Pirates" on Howard's show in a couple of months-considering this is supposed to be the biggest porn flick, it means something that they chose Howard's show once again to promote it on! The commercials? I don't care-it was never an issue with me. Will I ever pay for radio?-Possibly, but comparing radio and television-they are two different mediums-television offers much more to the common person-as the key word is "view". As for Jenna & Savanna-I would put my bets on Howard's show once again.
Nobody's arguing whether they still go on his show or not. The question is whether it is worth it.
I know that years ago, I would walk into my local video store and the manager would ask me "Did Howard have "so and so" on his show today?" because he would have gotten phone calls asking about a performer or title that day.
He hasn't asked me that question in a very long time. It still may be "worth it", but not like is used to be.
Bill Wrote: "Nobody's arguing whether they still go on his show or not. The question is whether it is worth it."
That's a tough question for me? If I had to put my money on this. O&A will make Jesse & Carmen do the news, naked to promote their film "Pirates". It's always funny when a porn+star or Stalker Patti doing the news. Can Howard do the same thing like O&A make any porn+star do the news, naked....that's a rip+off.
Bill, you clearly have a problem with Howard. I don't think you have any sort of agenda or anything... just that you've firmly made up your mind that "Howard sucks".
It's surprising to me that you no longer find his show entertaining. Maybe it's because I came to the game relatively late: I first became a fan around 1997 or so, when I was stuck in traffic one day and turned the show on. I found it quite entertaining then and still do now.
I'll admit that there have been times when I've turned the show off. He's so "ID driven" that it's almost like he can't control himself. He's made me angry enough to shout at the radio a few times. I usually turn it off when that happens. On the other hand, I find his interviews to be quite compeling: He gets things out of guests that very few hosts can.
The bits are a mixed bag. Sometimes they are very funny, other times not. The point for me is that I've enjoyed the vast majority of my listening time with his show and watching the abbreviated version on the E! channel. I feel like a practically know the entire staff.
I'll admit that I haven't ever heard O&A, as I don't have XM (Sirius came preinstalled in my new car). With all the praise they are getting in this thread, I'd like to check them out.
I think it's unfair to completely dismiss the show as if no one likes it. Clearly MANY people, including me, still do. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this point.
A free three day trial to the online stream, which includes O&A is available at http://xmro.xmradio.com/xstream/Who said that nobody like it? He still has approximately 6 million listeners. The fact is that he has lost 2/3 of his listeners over the last 5 years or so (when he had about 18 million listenrers). Is some cases, that's because stations have cancelled him over FCC concerns. However, in more cases it's been because (A) people have stopped listening on their own and (B) stations have cancelled him because of lousy ratings (caused by (A)). So, yes. There are still a lot of people who still like the show. But those people are in the minority.
Contrary to what Howard likes to tell people, he's no longer number 1 in the ratings anywhere and he's is far from number 1 in the ratings in most markets where he is syndicated.
DrP0rn0 wrote:This is not praising going on, but some type of promotion. You can check them out, but beware that they are just two bad clones of Stern!
Bill wrote:
I will give you not only a porn star, but a recent one... JENNIFER STEEL in an interview with adultfyi recently stated that being on the Stern show "already made me three grand." In fact, it also helped her with the ### of mexicans for her upcoming film. Furthermore, adultfyi states in that same interview that "a Stern show appearance guarantees a huge spike in website readership for that day." and "Steel says it must."
Another example: Victoria Givens. On her anal gang bang, there are some participants stating that they became interested of the anal gang bang because of the Stern show.
BUT going back to the main topic on why stars do not go on the O&A show is mainly because they are nobody. Hands down that if you ask ANYONE if they know who Stern is,the majority of people will know. OPIE AND ANTHONY WHO? The only fame they got was for being fired for playing a stupid prank in St. Patrick's cathedral.
For Jenna Jameson or Savannah to do O&A would be a disgrace because it would be going to the most popular radio host to a pair of losers that try to be Howard. The same would go for Carmen and Jesse. How come no one ever brings that up?
I really wish that Jenna Jameson or Kami Andrews (two stars that enjoy going on the stern show that post here) or even Janine (which Howard brought some fame to, as well) would voice their opinion!
AND:
I didn't know ratings had anything to do with why porn stars do not go! Because even with the drop, porn stars appear and still want to appear on Stern!!!
Oh boy. A one day spike in a website. That's worth airfare and a hotel stay in NY to get. And the $3K was ancecdotal. She booked 3 shoots. There's nothing to say that she wouldn't have gotten those shots anyway.
Considering that she was apparently there to promote her Mexican Gang Bang it looks like that her appearance was actually a failure "As much shit as people like to talk, I don't think we're going to have that many people show. We're not getting as many responses as we thought we would but I think it's going to end up being somewhere between 10 and 15 guys." Wow. When you take away High Pitch Eric, Jeff the Drunk and Yukko the Clown, they might end up getting a full a full dozen listeners. That's great.
And for those 10-15 guys, all she had to deal with was:
Do you think that Jennifer thinks that her trip was worth it? It doesn't sound like it.
That's the best that you can come up with, huh? An article showing a girl who was obviously unhappy with the way her Stern appearance turned out. Were you actually able to write about that without thinking "Holy shit. They're right. He treats them like shit and they get nearly nothing out of it?
Do you think that she got more than a dozen? Or is were they the same 10-15 guys that Jennifer got?And the vast majority of those who know who he is, have a negative opinion of him. So, what good is that?That depends on where you live. They are well known in many of the cities in which they were syndicated. NY, Boston, Philadelphia being 3 in which they had the #1 afternoon show.Yes. He still does a very good job of promoting himself as if he is still the powerhouse that he once was. He's he "the man hidden behind the curtain". The "all powerful" Wizard of Oz. A man who was once powerful, but now spending all of his time trying to get people to believe that it's stil the case. Howard Stern is still as much the "King of all Media" as Michael Jackson is the "King Of Pop".
He's a has-been. That will be proven in January when people are forced to pay for him...and they don't.
Wow, is that a misrepresentation of the facts. Part of the reason his listenership has dropped is b/c so many radio stations aren't allowed to carry him anymore. Trying to blame the drop entirely on his performance is blatant misrepresentation of the facts and it weakens your entire argument and credibility.
I will grant that he's not as popular as he once was. But I'd say that has a lot more to do with his divorce than anything else.
Bill Wrote:Do you think that Jennifer thinks that her trip was worth it? It doesn't sound like it.
That's the best that you can come up with, huh? An article showing a girl who was obviously unhappy with the way her Stern appearance turned out. Were you actually able to write about that without thinking "Holy shit. They're right. He treats them like shit and they get nearly nothing out of it?
Another example: Victoria Givens. On her anal gang bang, there are some participants stating that they became interested of the anal gang bang because of the Stern show.
Bill is right about Stern, why you ask? You think Howard is a good person how the way he'd treated Jennifer Steele on and off the radio, I don't think so. You think that some listener will participant in Victoria Givens's anal gang cause of Howard, no way.
Do some people get that Howard isn't number one anymore and his listeners have drop in the last 5 years. When Stern moves to Sirius on Jan 9th, 2006. That his listeners will drop 1/3 cause you have to pay to listen for his show.
Really? He was only dropped off of 6 Clear Channel stations last year. In 5 of those 6 markets, he was picked up by another station.
Here's a list of all of the cities in which Stern has broadcast in syndication and his current status in those cities. When you see a "STARTED" with a date following it, that means that he was cancelled by antother station in that market and subsequently picked up by the new station. It was early 2004 when the big FCC crackdown occurred. Go ahead and count how many markets in which he was cancelled during that time frame in relation to how many he has been cancelled in both before and after. If he wasn't cancelled in early 2004, it wasn't because of the FCC. It was because of poor ratings.
I agree that the show took a big dip at the time of the divorce. However, I think that it was one of 3 or 4 time frames when the show got worse.
The first one was the loss of Billy West. He was absolutely hysterical on the show. That was purely a money issue and Howard never went to bat for him. I recently heard Billy in an interview and he's incredibly bitter about the Stern show.
The second one was the loss of Jackie. I know that many people love Artie. But Artie does nothing to make Stern funnier. Anyone who has ever watched the E! show when Jackie was on know how often Jackie passed yellow post-it's to Howard so Howard could be the one to make the Joke. Artie doesn't do that and regardless of whether someone thinks Artie is funnier than Jackie or not, Howard is not as funny without Jackie being there to feed him lines.
The third was the divorce, as you mentioned.
And the final straw was his meltdown after the Janet Jackson incident.
IMO, even going to Sirius will only bring him back to the level that he was at prior to the FCC crackdown. He really doesn't do anything creative anymore. How many times can someone listen to Jeff the Drunk or Beetlejuice act like assholes? I think that he loss of that creativity goes back to when Jackie left.
murg218 wrote: For Jenna Jameson or Savannah to do O&A would be a disgrace because it would be going to the most popular radio host to a pair of losers that try to be Howard. The same would go for Carmen and Jesse. How come no one ever brings that up?
I really wish that Jenna Jameson or Kami Andrews (two stars that enjoy going on the stern show that post here) or even Janine (which Howard brought some fame to, as well) would voice their opinion!
Maybe it's time for Jenna Jameson or Savannah or Kami Andrews to jump ship for O&A cause they know in back of their brains that Howard Stern's time is up!
Hey, Howard Stern is the most popular show on radio..ok! What about O&A on XM, they're is very popular, now...how did you said about that jack?
I would really like Jenna Jameson or Savanna Samson voice their opinion who the popular radio show "Howard Stern or Opie & Anthony?"
Stern has been incredibly good for the careers of both Jenna and Savanna. Neither one of them are going to badmouth him in any way. Nor should they. That's called loyalty and I wouldn't expect either of them to not be loyal to Howard regardless of whether his show is as helpful to their careers now as much as it was 6-8 years ago.
The one thing that's most apparent among all of the porn stars for whom Howard has been good for their careers is that none of them put up with his bullshit. Neither Jenna, Savanna nor Janine ever did any of the degrading shit that Howard makes other porn stars do when they are on the show.
There's also no debate as to which is currently the more popular show. Howard has more listeners than O&A by far. In order for O&A to have as many listeners as Howard currently has would require that for every XM subscriber, 1.3 people are listening to the show. Howard currently has 6 million listeners. XM has 4.5 million subscribers (as of the beginning of August '05).
Come January, that will be a different story. Currently (also as of the beginning of August '05), Sirius has 1.8 million subscribers. Estimates filed with the SEC for both companies show that XM estimates that they will have 6 million subscribers by the end of '05 and Sirius estimates 3 million subscribers in the same time period.
That's when we will really see what Howard is really worth.
You call Howard a has-been. FUNNY! Funny how everyone still listens to the "has-been" (funny, that even you LISTEN to it because of how familiar you are with all of the current members of what some would call the WACK PACK).
Funny also how most porn stars want to still go on the "has-been"'s radio show.
Funny how I live in nYc and I did not know about them until the cathedral incident. I was aware of the WOW stickers more than I knew of them. What good is knowing a group of people that left a negative impression for their sick pranks?
AND funny how people who have been on the show during the past few years still consider Howard to be the man and the show to go to. AND how they all give him credit.
Tabitha Stevens: I do not think she would be alive without Howard.
Mary Carey: Mary Carey was not big until she got her fame on Stern and then moved on to bigger stuff!
Jennifer Steel: I DO believe that Jennifer thinks the trip was worth it; that was more mexicans than she anticipated before the show and that was an extra 3 grand she made that she would not have gotten if she were not on the show. If you would be up to date with the Steel gang bang news, her original expectations were a handful of Mexicans and now, thanks to Stern, there will be a few hands!
And you said if Steel was the best I could come up with.... NO... I got more up my sleeve... LIKE THIS EMAIL FROM VICTORIA GIVENS ON HER YAHOO GROUP on 8/30 and with her permission, I am posting it here. ALSO, please note that she states that O&A are cool- BUT NO MENTION OF HER WANTING TO BE ON THEIR SHOW!!!!:
Howard is a great guy both on and off the mic. As you know, I have an aversion to rules in general but especially the ones that sensor and regulate how we express ourselves. I have the greatest respect for anyone that stands up for their rights and that have paid the price to make things easier on all of us.
Howard is largely responsible for any success that I have today. I have a lot of fans that wouldn't know who I am if not for Howard. He was there for me as I will always be for him.
I've only met Opie and Anthony once. They were "breaking the rules" when I met them so there are cool in my book, too. LOL
I tried listening to O&A a few years back before the big scandal in the church which got them kicked off the air. And they bored the hell out of me overall. Good hosts to some Im sure but they try too hard to out-do Stern in his own material. They most fit Stern's rantings about having clones. As Stone Cold Steve Austin used to say, ... anh! anh! Never try to out imitate the 'master' at his own game. Stars go on Stern for the national exposure. If they were so intimidated, what's to explain the multiple recurrences of people like Tabitha Stevens, Sunset Thomas, Houston & Kendra Jade amongst others. Tabitha even wants to be a Stern regular over at Sirius. Or the gimmick Win-A-Date appearances of Houston, Leanna Heart & Christi Lake. Each side(Stern & the adult stars)exploit each other. One big satisfied(if not happy)family from my POV. But a small price to pay for the adult stars to get those few thousand hits on a website or to promote autograph signing appearance. I never paid fire-loving porn star Jennifer Steele no mind until I heard the Stern show about both the Midget & upcoming Mexican Gangbangs. So Stern, O&A and their radio brethren can be a good source of info when your not combing the web.
Other great radio shows with adult stars: Don & Mike(Dave Cummings was hilarious) Sports Junkies-Cheyenne Silver, Dasha, LexiMarie, Monique Alexaner, Savanna Samson all at once...what more can you ask for.) Ron & Fez(newly arrived to XM from broadcast...cant remem- ber any stars but I like them)
Not once since last September, when I got my XM receiver. I wrote earlier that I used to be a huge fan of his. I stood on line at a book signing. I pulled strings with a bunch of people to get tickets to the Private Parts premiere and party at the Theater at MSG. I paid for pay-per-view events. I was the typical Stern drone who believed whatever he said. It wasn't until listening to O&A in the afternoon for a few months that I had to admit to myself that I actually preferred their show to his (and that was back when I still thought that his show was entertaining).
Since that point, IMO, Stern's show has only gone downhill. I found myself changing the station regularly and when it was announced that O&A were coming to XM, I jumped all over it and haven't looked back. At first, I continued Tivo'ing the TV show. However, after seeing the same old shit over an over (whacking girls in the ass with some big mechanical stick or yet another episode of Hollywood Squares), I cancelled that season pass.
Now, not a day goes by that I don't laugh out loud listening to O&A. Ask yourself honestly, when was the last time that you actually laughed out loud to Howard? Now, maybe Howard's show has done a 180 since last September and is wonderful again. I don't know. Nor do I care anymore.
This is such a dead topic, but-Actually, there are a lot more porn stars that owe their careers to Howard Stern besides Jenna Jameson, Janine, and Savanna Samson. Aren't you forgetting the regulars like Houston, Jasmin St. Claire, Tabitha Stevens, Brittany Andrews, Karina, Kendra Jade, LeeAnna Heart, and Nikki Tyler, just to name a few? There are also the non-regulars that gained instant fame just by conducting their first interviews like Devon, Devinn Lane, Alisha Klass, Madelyn Knight, Taylor Rain, Jessica Jaymes, and the list goes on and on....SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD RESUME TO ME! Many of these girls had their careers literally made or jump-started by Howard. Some of these women are now in the AVN top 50 of all time-and some got picked up as "contract girls" immediately following their appearance on the show. There is a food chain in radio(just like in any other business)-at the top is Howard(like it or not-this is true)-whether his ratings dropped or not-he is still the top dog-not just now-but I can easily say of all-time. The Rush Limbaughs, Kasey Kasems, Wolfman Jacks, and others follow. He is the only radio jock that is also an A-list celebrity-who conducts interviews with porn stars all the while interviewing major movie stars and musicians. Just for this reason alone, going on the Howard Stern show for an adult star is a MAJOR deal and he is the only "national" star that gives them that much exposure. O&A books guests too, but they get the left-overs-ala Andrew Dice Clay and Jay Mohr. Sharing this type of public forum really isnt worth much to the standard porn star-at least not when compared to Howard! When was the last time you saw O&A conduct an interview with a Beatle or a Governor? Their biggest guest was Kid Rock(he came in with Pamela-who sat in the green room)-O&A were forbidden by Kid Rock's publicists to ask anything about Pam's Hep C-which they abided by. For that one time-a major star chose O&A over Howard because they knew Howard would jump on the Hep C topic right away-so they took the easy route and went on O&A. You can argue that there were others before or after Howard, but none shined more than him on a grander scale. A GOOD ANALOGY, HOWARD STERN IS THE MICHAEL JORDAN OF RADIO, O&A ARE THE MICHAEL JORDAN OF BASEBALL OF RADIO. I think we can all agree Howard may not be the King of all Media-but he is certainly the KING OF RADIO! Moving on, you say you havent listened since September?? That is one whole year? In that time-yes, much has changed-he has new crew members-one of them being Richard Christy who is A big-time porn fanatic-so much so, not a day goes by that they dont talk about porn or porn stars-they even have a regular game called "Stump The Perv" where contestants test their porn knowledge against him. The King of Porn himself Ron Jeremy even went up to bat against him! As for Mary Carey, she ran for governor AFTER her appearances on the Howard Stern show.....you can decide for yourself if that had anything to do with her current success....
Right. Every one of them before 2000. As I asked before, name a single one who has made a big name for herself through being on the Stern show beginning after 2000.Your out of your fucking mind with this list. Every one of this list had made their names before ever appearing on Stern's show. He wasn't even blip for any of them.Yes. She did. But nobody knew who she was until she ran for Governor. Do you really think that bringing her retarded mother on the show to set her up on a date with Gary the Retard was a good thing for her career? It was running for Governor that made her a name. She would have done that whether she had pimped her mother on Stern or not.
This list is pretty accurate dude. Devon had only done 2 movies before she made her appearance on Howard Stern-she was dancing as a house girl in PA at the time-she then went on to BIGGER things. Devinn Lane became a Wicked girl after her appearance on Howard, when she first appeared with her brother. Madelyn Knight became a Vivid girl after her appearance on Howard, she was the star of the "Marry a Porn Star" segment. Jessica Jaymes became Hustler's first contract girl literally 1 week after her appearance on Howard Stern(she was initially booked to talk about dancing for Jessica Simpson's husband). You either have a bad memory, or you are not the former Howard Stern fan you say you are..By saying, Howard did "blip" for these people, you are totally discrediting the only mainstream person to EVER actually do anything for the adult industry. As for all the girls before 2000, a few of them are practically legends in the industry now-O&A can't even match ONE of those names. No, bringing her retarded mother on was not a good thing for her career, neither was dunking her head in a toilet, and neither was running for governor-but like they say, "there is no such thing as bad publicity"-especially in the adult industry-a name is a name and Howard has made lots of them!
That is one whole year? In that time-yes, much has changed-he has new crew members-one of them being Richard Christy who is A big-time porn fanatic-so much so, not a day goes by that they dont talk about porn or porn stars-they even have a regular game called "Stump The Perv" where contestants test their porn knowledge against him. The King of Porn himself Ron Jeremy even went up to bat against him! As for Mary Carey, she ran for governor AFTER her appearances on the Howard Stern show.....you can decide for yourself if that had anything to do with her current success....
[/quote]It was a surprise to hear Jeremy appear on the show. Stern doesn't have too many male adult stars on and Jeremy has been a long standing hold out.
Are you guy sure that you're disagreeing with me? You keep making my points for me. I've already agreed that before 5 years ago, Howard was a powerhouse who could and did do a lot for the careers of porn stars. You say that you disagree. So, I asked you to name porn stars who's careers have been made by Howard in the last five years.
Let's see who you've thrown at me now.
Madelyn Night contract with Vivid began in 1996 or 97. 1997 < 2000. Swing and a miss.
Devinn Lane was already working with Wicked in 1999. 1999 < 2000. Strike two.
If you are correct about Devon going on Stern after having done only two movies (which I'm sure that you are), that means that she was on the show in 1997. 1997 < 2000. Batter's out.
You can't honestly believe that Jessica Jaymes appearance on Stern is what got her a contract a week later, do you? Prior to getting a contract with Hustler, she had already worked on multiple movies for them, including one that won an AVN award. They signed her when he agreed to start doing boy/girl scenes. Do you really think that this was a result of a single appearance on Howard's radio show?
Are you sure that you're not secretly on my side of this discussion?
You guys may have the last word. Other than responding to Everett's post, I'm done with this one.
I'm not sure if you are saying that Ron has been holding out on going on Stern or whether Stern has been holding out on letting Ron on the show or not. It's the latter.
Ron Jeremy has tried to get onto the Stern show for years. Howard has always made him sit in the green room. He got on a few times when Howard was in public places and IIRC, they actually let him into the studio for the first time a few years ago.
Mr. Bill, I think you have proven my point if anything. The whole topic from the beginning here was why porn stars do the Howard Stern show instead of Opie & Anthony-I just gave you reasons but got no reply...You keep throwing in the fact that they all occurred before 2000, and how relevant is that to this topic? Devon was a guest in 1999(her first appearance) and her career skyrocketed after that appearance. I would like to ask you one question. How many porn stars can honestly say O&A were responsible for starting or even helping their careers(may it be before or after 2000)? Howard Stern is Johnny Carson-O&A are Public Access-guests know which show to go on when they are faced with the choice of self-promotion. Don't you think there is a reason why Ron Jeremy tries to get on Howard's show and jumps at the chance at the opportunity? Guests go on the Howard Stern show BECAUSE IT IS THE BIGGER SHOW=BIGGER AUDIENCE=MORE WORTHY PLUG(even if it means embarassing yourself on the E! channel).....
Here is another tidbit to stick up your--- Andrea Ownbey-a virtual nobody! This no talent gets named Miss Howard Stern, and all of a sudden has her own booth at the AVN Expo-I guess you can thank Opie & Anthony for making her famous too, right? (sarcasm mode turned off)
Doc SanTe, a fan of Howard's & keeper of the Howard Stern Shrine, is working on a book about the Shrine & the Stern Show's guests. I was able to help him get LeeAnna Heart & Sunset Thomas in the book.
No, it's a book of photos & interviews & other memorabilia that Doc has collected for his Howard Stern Shrine. Some porn stars like Jenna Jameson, Sunset Thomas, Rebecca Love & LeeAnna Heart are Shrine inductees. Email Howardshrine&aol.com (sub the @ for the &) if you have any other questions ref his book. He's sending it to the printer on Thursday.
PR Representative for Leeanna Heart.
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Yes, I used to listen to them back when they were still on "the air". Now I'm thrown between getting either XM...or going Sirius for Stern's unveiling come January 2006.
I couldn't believe one of my yardmasters was listening to it, quite loudly mind you, at work one day for all to hear. What a change of pace, this was the first I'd heard them since their dismissal from the "free radio".
Eric
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 11:05PM
And aside of Imus in his golden days...no one really spoke out against dirtbag's like Bush & the light brigade that wish the porn industry were nothing but a memory.
It's all about sides, I've been a loyal Stern listener for over 10 years, simply because they broadcast him on the Philly, NYC, and until recently...Harrisburg, PA markets. I like O&A as well, but I haven't NEARLY as much exposure to them. I might be hard to push such a statement as "Guys like O&A wouldn't exist if it weren't for people like Stern" who got such a movement on radio started.
