Amber Rayne made a hot scene with Bo Dean and Tex Gemmell, and I was wondering if there were other "quality" girls who do bi mmf. It is not easy finding bi scenes with hot American girls- is there still a stigma in the industry?
There is less of a stigma in Europe apparently. It is relatively easy to find very beautiful ladies taking part in bisexual mmf scenes - Nacho Vidal, the bi series from Private, Daria Glower... It would be great to see some top-quality American performers doing bi-male scenes.
I'm interested in this too. The American bi stuff I've come across, admittedly not much, usually suffers from lackluster talent and/or poor production and camerawork.
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Posted - Mar 30 2010 : 6:49PM
Hot babes appreciate sucking dick that has been up lots of gay ass.
You should check out the following series : Forced Bi Cuckolds which has featured (among others) Nicole Ray, Ally Ann, Andy San Dimas, Kylee Reese, Gracie Glam, Brooke Banner, Hannah West Wanna Fuck My Wife Gotta Fuck Me Too which has featured Sammie Spades and Jules Sterling Bi Accident which has featured Dakoda Brookes and Sophie Dee You may or may not consider these as "A-list" stars however they are all fucking hot and worth a look.
There's something seriously lacking in Bi scenes. They usually lack intensity and eroticism and from what I can tell are normally two gay dudes with a girl in the background. And why aren't there more DPs in Bi scenes? Surely if you're Bi there couldn't be a better sexual experience. One last thing; why are they usually MMF? What about MMFF? It'd be hot if everyone was fucking each other, girls and boys.
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Hmmm, my kind of thread. I'm a major proponent of binormative sexuality as a whole and I think porn should be a major ground of operations for this form of sexuality. I think it would have happened by now had it not been for the HIV stigma which I think is based on a shit load of hubris and a none existent virus. For me this form of sex in porn should be beyond MMF, it should be based on how a boy/girl scene is shot by having a symmetrical focus on male and female beauty. One site that has been doing this well is corbinfisher. Check out the ACS section of their site. There was also nextdoor studios next door hookups which is sadly discontinued and featured b level 'gay' porn performers and c level 'straight' porn actors. Here's a bit the stuff on corbinfisher. https://www.corbinfisher.com/#acs/viewall and also http://www.nextdoorhookups.com/en Also just check up on manhunt daily's bi the way.
Yes! Porn has the chance to be much more progressive. It's interesting that even in the vastness of the internet there still isn't actually all that much good stuff that accurately portrays real sex. Particularly in bisexual videos.
^&^^ I can't help but feel that you guys are trolling the rest of us with this thread and a similar one. That or you are seriously delusional. Straight guys do not want to watch two guys fuck themselves even if at some point they fuck a beautiful woman as well regardless that there is symmetrical focus on male and female beauty. I suspect that in return gay men do not want to watch two gay guys fuck a girl even if they happen to also fuck each other in the same scene. Now if the thrust of your thread is that you want a list of the women who have done bi porn than that is a possibility but as you may have already surmised. The list is going to be pretty short. Aside from the obvious stigma associated with performers who have sex with gay men. I don't believe that too many women are willing to temp fate by having unprotected sex or even protected sex with gay men as this is only asking for trouble.
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Posted - Mar 6 2015 : 2:43AM
Pat you don't have to remind us that porn is segregated gay and straight. We know that. Some of us-even without being actively bisexual(myself)-actually think that the future of porn should be bisexually presented simply because it would only be fair to the female porn viewing equivalents many of whom can only get their male gazing fix watching gay porn. Yes there are issues with gay/bisexual performing men in regards to STIs and so called 'HIV', but these are issues that can be dealt with with with testing and health paneling. It's not going to happen tomorrow, but one can talk about it. Also let's not forget the Kinsey scale, and how many people are actually bisexual when social pressures are taken off. Men have not had the same breakthroughs as women in this regard. Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 3/6/2015 2:45:57 AM
I don't see any inherent barrier to bringing bi male performers under the current HIV testing regime. Am I missing something? I also imagine that there are many female performers from the strictly straight side of the industry who would like to work in scenes with bi male performers. I think it would just take some enterprising company to make it all happen. I with agree pat that it wouldn't be big seller among most of the straight male audience, but it's definitely a niche market that could turn a tidy profit for someone. Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 3/6/2015 3:06:23 AM
Yeah, I totally agree with the Kinsey scale reference. People aren't actually gay or straight, they're in shades in between and I think most people are bisexual to SOME degree. The problem has been societal constraints of recent times. Centuries ago bisexual sex was the norm -- ancient greece and rome are good case studies on this. I'm not looking for gay men fucking gay men with a woman in between, I'm looking for a kinsey film -- a film where there are girls and boys are both into each other and it's not forced or weird like the current stream of popular porn. There are plenty of amateur films like this but the quality is usually pretty shit.
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Posted - Mar 7 2015 : 1:25AM
^^I disagree on it not being a big seller and only going to niche market. As realsM is saying what is needed in Kinsey grey scaled 'Bi Eyed' porn. Look at the numerous requests you see by certain straight men to see a girl strap on n' fuck a guy or tranny porn. The fact is what men really want is fairly repressed. You will have those ole' fashioned types that do not want to see men portrayed in a more exposed kind of manner, but I predict that they will be outnumbered by this emergent under served porn consumer that consists of bi to straight men as well as women. In the future a porn forum like this could see a more symmetrical contrast of male and female porn fans because of porn changing for the better in a binormative direction. Hell kink.com comes fairly close to serving this market and they're one of the biggest boys on the block. Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 3/7/2015 1:28:16 AM
I was saying it was a niche market compared to predominantly straight porn. I also imagine it would be a smaller market then the one for just straight-forward gay porn. According to this report only 0.7 percent of the US population identify as bi, a number smaller than the percentages who identify as straight and gay. So it stands to reason the market for bi porn would be smaller as well. Speaking as a member of the predominantly straight demo, I don't think you'll see too much crossover from us into the bi market. Maybe you're right and that will change as social norms change though. I agree with you about sexual orientation being more of a spectrum though then a strict binary though. It's pretty funny reading some of the arguments in threads about double-anal. "Ewww, their dicks are rubbing, that means it's gay!" Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. If you get off on it, who cares? And so many members go out of their way to make the point that the male talent in a b/g scene doesn't matter to them. When I ask if they'd be cool then with a scene featuring a fat dude who has a tiny penis I get no response. Go figure. I like to see attractive women and men fucking. If that makes me a little bit gay then I guess I'm a little bit gay. Frankly, being a little bit gay is probably one of the most socially acceptable aspects of my sexuality. There aren't too many parades for guys who are into ten man blowbangs that end in a massive facial. Edit: Fixed broken link. Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 3/7/2015 3:07:40 PM
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Posted - Mar 7 2015 : 12:04PM
^Your link is broken, though I would say one should distinguish between sexual identity and activity. There are just over or just under 5 percent of people who identify as gay or lesbian so that number seems low plus bisexuality is not an identity in the same way gay and straight is. It's hard to judge the actual sexual proclivities of humanity, though, one thing I would suggest is to simply check out the craigslist casual encounters section and look at the sea of m4m you will find there. I don't think those posts are confined to 'gayborhoods'. I also doubt we know the whole spectrum of kinks on this site. I mentioned the people who are into things like rimming and femdom strappons that might be better served by this type of porn. Go check out those corbin fisher ACS videos for instance. A fair amount of them are boy/girl with the boy simply getting his due exposure. I don't think many straight porn viewers would complain about porn in that form. Essentially the boy/girl scene would remain the baseline with more symmetrical emphasis on looks and exposure for both sexes.
I'm calling bullshit on your theory that bisexual porn is the future of porn . If it was than it would have happened years ago when porn was the powerhouse that it is. I don't know how old any of you guys are but frankly bi-porn is old news now. Just look up Sharon Kane on IAFD to see that she did plenty of bi porn in the 90's. She's not the only performer. At best bi-porn is always was a fringe fetish. I'm not even sure if it was ever more than a curiosity. It certainly isn't porn that is popular today and not just because of the HIV scare. I'm also calling bullshit on women having to watch gay porn to see hot men. Straight women want to watch hot guys fucking women because they can then imagine themselves with the hot guy. Why would they get stimulated watching two hot guys fuck themselves? It's not like they can imagine a gay guy fucking her since it has been demonstrated that he wants to fuck a guy and not a woman. I'm a straight guy but I'm not opposed to some fringe fetish porn. I enjoy some TS porn but only if it's with a woman. I have no desire to see a TS fuck a guy or a guy fuck a TS because I only watch porn to see women have sex. The partner they have sex with is rarely an issue because I'm watching porn to see her. Now the way you guys are describing it. You would like to watch guys fuck each other and girls fuck each other and than they would have sex with each other. If that is truly watch floats your boat than good luck because you will have a really hard time finding that. Now as to gay or gay for pay men working on the straight side of the industry. Well we already know this is happening because the last two years have already brought us how many moratorium because of that?
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Posted - Mar 8 2015 : 3:09AM
^Pat I don't think you get what me and realsM are getting at. I'm talking about a totality of presentation not the bb/g genre that you are thinking of. Think of how men and women are presented in high fashion for example by mostly gay or bisexual producers. YOU may not care about how the guy looks, but there's that other half of the human sex that does:) As for why would women want to watch two hot guys fucking, because they do and this study suggests the 'gay' genre is the 2nd most watched for women: http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/how-women-watch-porn#.csXL4K0d3 The reason this type of porn has not happened yet is because we are still in a hard hetero normative mindset. This won't last forever and there could be a pornographer down the road that simply gets it and will get lots of money in the process.
Posted - Mar 25 2010 : 7:30PM
