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charn
fubar

2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 12:42AM
if i was producing porn i would put that policy on the front of the cover of every dvd.
Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 12:49AM
We tried and we ran out of girls after 6 months of production
Redish All-Star Supporter
Poetic Moderator

Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine
4076 Posts
12/03
Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 12:56AM

You sure that wasn't weeks?
DJboutit2
Member

438 Posts
4/09
Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 1:59AM
If I ran a porn website I would not use girls with big tats I just hate seen girls with big ugly tats now a tramp stamp is ok implants would be ok to
jizzyjay
Member

914 Posts
10/07
Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 2:06AM
I agree with you.Berlin,Rikki Raxxx,and others are very hot, I just find the tats very anoying.
 
Leenaddict
Member

17 Posts
11/09
Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 9:47AM
Tattoos are only a problem for me when the scene is a "scenario" like seduction of a babysitter, and the girl (who's ostensibly a "teen") has multiple tats in rather unattractive (to me, anyway) places. An example of this is the scene on the school bus with Brett Rockman and two "students". The scene is quite hot until one of the girls is revealed to have tats all over the place. Ruined the fantasy of it for me.
Sure, teen girls can get tats, but a tramp stamp, one on the boob, one around the navel, some smudgy-looking blob above her mons, etc.? Come on, now. Use that magic makeup Kat Von D had on in that photoshoot.

Edited by - Leenaddict on 1/22/2010 9:49:23 AM

Webnasty
Senior Member

I'm looking at You Girls
1110 Posts
7/08
Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 10:00AM
...and now the EuroBabes are going to the same way: Ugly tattoos and fake BOOOOOBS.
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
Doctor of the Erotic Arts

7238 Posts
1/09
Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 10:12AM
Don't Kick Ass have a no fake boobs policy?
BYOB_Kenobi
Senior Member

“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard
2684 Posts
8/09
Posted - Jan 22 2010 : 10:28AM
Yeah, some things we shouldn't export.
But, not just the tats & plastic, also the stupid mainstream porn stuff like choking (I saw some of this in European videos a couple of months ago).
charn
fubar

2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jan 26 2010 : 12:54AM
i wonder when rubbing tattoos together will become a genre. i'm watching Women Seeking Women 58. it's better than i expected for GFF, but the ink on one woman in the first scene is a significant flaw. it might be an interesting design in person, but on the screen it's just a giant blob of ink.
Guam
Member

613 Posts
2/07
Posted - Mar 2 2010 : 7:22PM
ALSSCAN does a pretty good job (not hardcore I know)
torris
Senior Member

Deep within Mila's anus
1827 Posts
1/00
Posted - Mar 2 2010 : 10:46PM
Ethnic slurs are very becoming.
Don't post that bullshit again.
Edited by - redish on 3/2/2010 11:15:19 PM
mrbluelouboyle All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

mrbluelouboyle and Alexis Tae
1334 Posts
12/03
Posted - Mar 3 2010 : 12:54AM
Jenna Haze's company "Jennaration X" films only natural girls. All natural breasts.
Dr. Nasty
Senior Member

Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Mar 3 2010 : 12:57AM
That's one thing I like about Jenna's company. But with the way its going these days, how long will that last?! Very few completely all natural women in this biz. By a few I mean probably like 5.
*****The Dr. of Nasty*****
redhead
Member

Not so redhead these days...
718 Posts
1/08
Posted - Mar 3 2010 : 3:36PM
Belladonna's the same.
 
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
Doctor of the Erotic Arts

7238 Posts
1/09
Posted - Mar 3 2010 : 3:40PM
Well, two huge names have been mentioned already - and there are plenty more. I've always felt like porn = blonde and implants was a myth popularized by mainstream appropriations of porn imagery (the Jenna Jameson effect).
Dr. Nasty
Senior Member

Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Mar 3 2010 : 5:52PM
^There are?! I'd like to see this list. If you are referring to nude models and amateurs maybe. But as for Pornstars I am not so sure.
*****The Dr. of Nasty*****
Edit: Oh and what two Big names are you talking about?
Edited by - Dr. Nasty on 3/3/2010 5:54:09 PM
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
Doctor of the Erotic Arts

7238 Posts
1/09
Posted - Mar 3 2010 : 6:34PM
^ Hang on...by all natural, do you mean natural boobs? That's what I was referring to - maybe you're thinking of tattoo-free also (like the OP indicates).
bootymeister
Senior Member

Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity
1589 Posts
11/08
Posted - Mar 3 2010 : 6:45PM
Maybe a policy of no implants, no piercings and tattoos subject to review.
ddl33
Member

442 Posts
2/08
Posted - Mar 3 2010 : 6:50PM
Well I think just about every pornstar has a tattoo of some kind. A company wanting to cast all girls with natural breasts would have absolutely no problem with that.
Guam
Member

613 Posts
2/07
Posted - Mar 3 2010 : 10:55PM
Make them make-up them over. Maybe the next generation of girls will get the hint.
charn
fubar

2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - Mar 3 2010 : 11:12PM
the next generation will have bluetooth earrings. porn might get weird when they're talking with their agents and boyfriends during scenes.
Dr. Nasty
Senior Member

Asa Akira.....Damn!
3797 Posts
9/05
Posted - Mar 4 2010 : 1:38AM
Yes I was following the thread title "no tattoos and no implants". I mean yeah, obviously there are a few more than 5 natural breasted women. But that doesn't fully apply here.
*****The Dr. of Nasty*****
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Mar 4 2010 : 3:01AM
OK. So why can't the industry put all their heads together and say "Hey. If you want to work in this business, you've got to have more flesh than plastic and your body must not have antlers and brier patches all over it"?
The only way this is going to happen is if women don't think they're going to make more money with beach balls on their chests.
bootymeister
Senior Member

Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity
1589 Posts
11/08
Posted - Mar 4 2010 : 11:18AM

Good point. There is long line of women fighting to get into porn. No need to settle for women who do not want to be truly naked.
The new policy: no implants, no tattoos, no piercings.
 
bissy
Senior Member

Nikki Sexx is superhot !!!!
7066 Posts
12/09
Posted - Mar 4 2010 : 1:28PM
agree with no tattoos and implants...
shalalin
Senior Member

1734 Posts
11/07
Posted - Mar 4 2010 : 3:47PM
Because intentionally shunning a large part of the customer base isn't a good idea if your industry is already struggling? Now, I don't know whether there's a huge number of fans clamoring for heavily tattooed babes, but there are certainly plenty enough people interested in "beach balls" (or at least not having any hang-ups about fake tits) even if the overwhelming number of ADT regulars just can't get themselves to acknowledge that...
pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Mar 4 2010 : 11:22PM
I'd say that one of the reason's why the industry is suffering at the moment is because so many performers are getting implants. I know that I don't like them so if one of my favorite stars chooses that route then it's quite possible that I will not buy movies with her after the procedure. If my opinion is shared by other paying customers then you can see where a movie will not sell as well as it should have. It also means that performer gets less offers since what made her appealing is no longer true.
I love small breast so implants are already an annoyance to me but if an A or B cup performer were to get 1 size above her won for whatever reason she chooses then I guess I would have less of an issue with it. Can anyone name me a perfoerm that has actually done that? Most get gigantic grapefruits installed on their chest.
I have never seen one performer improved with implants or plastic surgery.
Guam
Member

613 Posts
2/07
Posted - Mar 5 2010 : 9:37AM
Personally, I think tats ought to be a fetish/niche category.
pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Mar 5 2010 : 1:02PM
I suspect that if we put tattoos as a fetish then most porn girls are going to be classified as fetish stars. I'd agree to classify any girl with a sleave or back tatto as fetsih. We are no longer talking about a nice little frog, dolphin, star... tattoo near the navel when you have a gigantic mosaic running all over your body..
ninja1
Senior Member

2939 Posts
1/08
Posted - Mar 5 2010 : 1:12PM
Actually that could lead to an improved product. The director could instruct the performers without the viewer having to hear it.
Guam
Member

613 Posts
2/07
Posted - Mar 5 2010 : 1:52PM
I think that tats are really something that could change around quickly....given that a "generation" in porn actresses is about 18 months...
the comment above about preferring the girls nude is pretty funny....it does almost seem like tats are clothes in some psychological way....maybe that is part of it....I enjoy beautiful naked women as my art form. Winged death heads and old boyfriends names not so much....
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Mar 5 2010 : 1:59PM
No matter which way it goes, they will be shunning a large part of the established customer base. I'm betting the men of the future are not going to stop wanting to see naked women just because they don't have fake tits.
Guam
Member

613 Posts
2/07
Posted - Mar 5 2010 : 3:13PM
Interesting take on Adam Smith, but it is about the "best" product not the one that won't "stop". God knows there are enough choices.
On the implant side, to me it is just like anything else...silicone lip implants, obvious nose jobs or cheek implants, whatever. When it is done wrong and looks fake it is a turnoff. I don't know how anyone could seek out watching some of these girls with basketballs looking like they are about to painfully burst on their chest.
As to tats....is there any data on customer opinions? Anyone do polling or research? Is it trending down? On the Hotmovies site there are 178 "tatto movies, but only about 30 since 2008.
XCollector
All-Star Member

127 Posts
4/07
Posted - Mar 5 2010 : 5:05PM
Implants and tats ought to be disclosed on the box-cover.
Just like food additives.
 
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Mar 6 2010 : 6:57AM
About the tattoos...
It's fairly obvious that a large tattoo of any kind (Not to mention multiple large tattoos) that is impossible to ignore is going to have a limited appeal. It's just that simple. Some people might actually like them and many may tolerate them but most people would probably rather they simply not be there. Particularly when they're poorly done tattoos or tattoos that are distasteful. I don't know what having a set of antlers on your back is supposed to mean but it doesn't add to the appeal of the human back in my book. But I'm the type who likes to be able to appreciate the bare skin. The texture of it, the complexion, the bone and muscle structure underneath. I find an ordinary back to already be a work of art that doesn't need anything but the right lighting.
Now I have to say, I do realize that this is a psychological problem I have with myself. I can't ignore things I don't care for. Once I notice it, the whole experience is ruined for me. I can't do anything about that.
Anyway, I have seen some tattoos that weren't terrible. I've seen girls who had a small set of (Nicely done) lips in what seemed like a fairly appropriate place or a small rose or a heart or butterfly or something and it was actually kind of cute. I guess that's my thing. I like soft femininity. Antlers and thorns (Actually some of it looks more like barbed wire) don't strike me as feminine. At. ALL.
pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Mar 6 2010 : 9:31AM
"Now I have to say, I do realize that this is a psychological problem I have with myself. I can't ignore things I don't care for. Once I notice it, the whole experience is ruined for me. I can't do anything about that".
I must suffer from the same affliction because I also can't ignore something that has caught my eye. It doesn't have to be very big either. Any piercings in the face or mouth tends to drag my eyes toward it. SAamll tattoos do the same thing. It may not ruin the entire experience but it is a little annoying.
Guam
Member

613 Posts
2/07
Posted - Mar 6 2010 : 11:13AM
Yeah, I just can't enjoy my blowjobs from Mikey Tyson since he got that facial tat.
shalalin
Senior Member

1734 Posts
11/07
Posted - Mar 6 2010 : 1:00PM
(emphasis mine)
I must have missed the press release about the danger of boobjobs becoming mandatory... You're the one who proposed that the industry "get together" and decide that only one porn star look is proper to shoot, I'm doing no such thing and neither is anybody else who fails to dislike fake boobs. Aren't 80+% of all new starlets boobjob-free? Seems you're not exactly hurting for talent to follow as long as the steady influx of newbies continues. But hey, feel free to convince all the sympathetic industry stalwarts to implement your idea - and watch Brazzers become even bigger than they already are.
(Seriously, did you just make a veiled "porn consumers must be weaned off fake tits for their own good" argument? How depressing in a supposedly liberal industry.)
Derek117
Senior Member

1605 Posts
1/06
Posted - Mar 6 2010 : 1:04PM
Good topic. The Met-Art and X-Art websites try to enforce this policy with the girls they photograph...in artistic, mostly solo, nudes. As a result these are my top two fav sites, that I continue my membership in month-to-month...while I've dropped almost all other fan and adult sites.
But even these two sites occasionally have a girl with a minor tat, or very natural looking boob job. I guess they decide if they will hire a girl, based on if the tat or implants "distract" from the beauty of the girl.
IMO that would be a good "standard" for hardcore porn companies to use, too. Example: when Jenteal got implants, they didn't distract, or spoil, her previous look. So I continued to buy her product. Other performers got huge tats (Janine, Monique Alexander) or boob jobs (Teagan, Tawny Roberts) that I feel distract from their previous beauty--and altered my buying of their product.
Bottom line: I hope the trend in HUGE tats and hard, hard boob jobs is over.
seedfeeder
Member

My balls are full, who's hungry?
716 Posts
4/09
Posted - Mar 6 2010 : 10:17PM
I'm okay with tattoos... even excessive tattoos. But the bad implants gotta go. I rarely see a set of fake tits I really like, nothing comes close to the real thing. Way too perky... who said we like em that perky? I like tits that wont slosh into the armpits if shes on her back, but I sure dont want them like barbie, defying gravity. Shyla Stylez is a good example of a nice boob job... but know what? I still preferred her real tits to her fancy DDD cup. I even like bad tats, like Allie Sin, those look done by an amateur... but they still look hot on her.
What I could do without is the excessive makeup. I prefer they keep a little realism in my porn. Perfect is boring. Like actually covering up Sasha Knox's birthmarks... um, that's what makes her Sasha Knox. They glam them up waaaaaaaay too much. Think about it: Wasn't Jenna Haze 10 times hotter when she looked like Jenna Haze? She looked like a hot girl any of us could have known. But now she looks like every other freaking porn star and she's boring, nothing more. dime a dozen. Or how bout Kaci Starr? She was hot when she looked like a newbie, fish out of water, a little chunky, only maybe a 5 on the 10 scale. Now she's lost weight, has the belly piercing, glammed it all up and looks "typical". BORING. Give us differentiation in the product (the product is women and sexual acts for the multitude of directors that have missed this). Differentiation is the obvious strategy of the 3 basic business strategies that should be used in porn. Low Cost is stupid, cost leadership is equally stupid, clearly the correct strategy for porn is differentiation. So differentiate. Don't do all the same shit with all the girls glammed up to look the same. It's lame. Very few directors have a clue it seems. Brandon Iron is on the trolley, JM Productions understands business, now if only theyd buy some good equipment and train some camera men (or JP), Max knew the deal (do different things and have the product look different), Mike John had the idea, he even differentiates the way he films.... can we say "ahead of your time Mike"? there's a few more names in there.... but note some of the biggest companies apparently don't know how to do business... yes, yes, they'll sit back and say "oh really? Look at our profit margins", I could give 2 fucks. Just because the majority of your competitors are making the same mistake and you're doing more movies than they, is not proof that you do business well. If you could quadruple your profits yet refuse to due to arrogance.... well, that's just foolish.
P.S. Did I hijack this thread?
Guam
Member

613 Posts
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Posted - Mar 6 2010 : 11:02PM
Interesting point on makeup. So many girls have come in on something like Real Sex Magazine or Ed Powers looking like heart stopping girls next door and come back in other stuff looking like tarts.
The comment about being "okay" with "excessive" tats is oxymoronic, no? :-)
Stud_Rob
Member

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Posted - Mar 7 2010 : 11:42AM
Wouldn't that be discrimination to put that down on a front cover and have it as an official policy?
Derek117
Senior Member

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Posted - Mar 7 2010 : 12:40PM
At the risk of continuing off-topic.
I agree on "differentiation" of performers--but it should include both women and men. When was the last time you saw an Asian male perform with an Angelo woman? This type of "differentiation" is more realistic with today's twentysomething relationships & hook-ups, and should be just as important in porn as not having an industry of ONLY blond, blue-eyed Cali girls with fake tits. Plus the absence of a single black female superstars in porn, in this era of Beyonce, Rhianna, & Halle Berry, suggests the "R" word is still present in the industry. [And did anyone hear Riley Steele's comment on the pressure NOT to work with black men on the Howard Stern show...yes, more off-topic]
When speaking about "differentiation" of sexual acts, we may have a problem. First, I believe most directors DO try to capture something "new" and "different"--but that usually means "pushing the envelope": bigger dicks, rougher sex, more dp's, anals, creampies, multiple partners & facials, etc. And getting more outrageous acts from the performers can open the door for performers to be taken advantaged of, or abused, on sets. Making videos with hardcore sexual acts requires a high level of discipline on the set by the director--and trust by the performers. Not something many directors or companies think/care about. So we have performers with do/won't do "lists" to protect themselves.
Yep, it's complicated...but, it's the Porn Reality.
seedfeeder
Member

My balls are full, who's hungry?
716 Posts
4/09
Posted - Mar 7 2010 : 1:02PM
Fake boobs are not a protected class under Title VII, but an amusing thought none the less. Maybe you could make an argument for their protection under ADA, claiming that somehow they are too top heavy to function properly in society and thus "disabled".
taylor_swift_tasty_feet
Member

367 Posts
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Posted - Mar 7 2010 : 1:42PM
Most girl in their twenties (the age range I was dating before I found my GF was 18-30 )have tattoos.Luckly I dated ZERO with fake boobs.I REALY dislike fake boobs but tattoos I'm fine with just NOT on the girl's feet or butt.
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
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Posted - Mar 7 2010 : 1:54PM
I didn't feel that it was that veiled. Believe me. Liberalism has it's limits everywhere you go. If I'm going to be conservative on something, it might as well be at the point where women are having their breasts stuffed full of plastic.
I'm all for everyone being able to find something they can get their rocks off to but how do we do that? Someone is going to be unhappy. I'm selfish and I admit it. I want to see more natural women in porn. I don't think the industry could go far wrong losing those fans who aren't happy unless they're staring at bolt ons. So that's not very liberal of me. Oh well. As bad habits go, someone who has a thing for implants is smoking crystallized modeling glue.
Edited by - randomprecision on 3/7/2010 2:04:21 PM
Stud_Rob
Member

703 Posts
4/09
Posted - Mar 7 2010 : 4:16PM
Fair enough, sorry I have no idea what laws are like in the USA on this sort of stuff. Just seems a bit discriminatory as it's based upon appearance.
pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
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Posted - Mar 7 2010 : 10:46PM
I don't know if this is the place to ask but I must confess that I'm very curious to know what it is that guys love about girls with implants and/or tattoos? I could live with minor implants if an A cup girl chose to get small B or C implants. I wouldn't be thrilled but it wouldn't make me avoid her post-implant material. As far as I know that has yet to happen since girls will always choose the over the top choice.
Stud_Rob
Member

703 Posts
4/09
Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 10:29AM
I like big boobs just to establish that lol. I don't prefer implants necessarily but why do I like girls that have them? I don't know I guess they look rounder and firmer. Some do look quite cartoonish though like Lisa Lipps', Danielle Derek's etc. but sometimes I don't mind these, even though it looks unnatural. And tattoos I honestly never really notice. I like Delta White, Ricki Raxxx, Janine with their tattoos, I think it makes them quite alternative and a bit rougher round the edges which I think is cool being a metalhead. Maybe people prefer immaculate bodies but I honestly don't mind tattoos. Hope that was helpful.
Guam
Member

613 Posts
2/07
Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 10:34AM
I've said this before, but I think implants sometimes look great under a sweater or a little black dress at a dinner party, but painful in the buff.
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