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Nebakanezer
New Member

somewhere between France and Poland
3 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jul 14 2003 : 11:27AM
First, let me wish you a great time and thank you for reading my words.

I must admit, that it´s not your beauty Renee, nor your great work, that makes me write to you. It´s the simple fact, that both of you speak german and seem to be really smart.

I had an idea, that might interest you.

I´m absolutely sure, both of you know the german feminism magazine `Emma`. They have a forum, where the members talk a lot about porn. There are some radical feminists, whose oppinions, arguments and debates are really funny. they think porngirls are nothing but enslaved prostitutes. Even if they (the porngirls) think they are independent, intelligent women, they must be slaves, because no woman could do porn with a free will of her own. Not one.

There are also some men who write positively about porn, and some intelligent young women who have outed as porn consumers.

Those people discussing are great fun!

Today I thought to myself, a girl like Renee was missing on that board, to get the battle rolling. Would be fun, I thought.

But why would Renee go there and get bashed???

She does not seem to be a fool.

But here she probably has some chance to get some popularity in german mainstream-medias.

The Emma-journalists do nearly never appear in their own forum, but porns internationally most popular young star of german tounge could be a perfect lure.
What could happen, if you gave some dialogue between gorgeous yourself and Alice Schwarzer to Bild, possibly Stern or even Spiegel. Might happen Gina Wild was not only gone for good but had found a heir apparent, wouldn´t it be a possibillity?

Steve could get his share as well, I think. His chance may be way smaller to get involved, but I guess it´s there. At least, he could support a little bit and have some fun.

Do you like a look at the battlefield?

It´s here: "[ invalid url ]

Nebakanezer
New Member

somewhere between France and Poland
3 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jul 14 2003 : 11:40AM
Hmmm, the link does not work and my system broke down twice, when I tried to edit.

Anyway, here you go:

http://www.emma.de/php/forum.php?_forum[command]=unsetSearch

Shylock
Spieglergirls.com

"Patron of the Tarts"
2431 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jul 14 2003 : 10:10PM
Nebakanezer,

I believe you mean STEVE HOLMES not Steve Hatcher. Steve Hatcher is also a Pornstar, but he doesn't speak German.

Shylock
Spieglergirls.com

Steve Holmes
Senior Member

1235 Posts
12/02
Posted - Jul 15 2003 : 5:28AM
Hi Nebakanezer,

I think Shylock is right. You probably mean me as the German speaking guy.

I don't think talking to the girls from Emma makes great sense. The maker and the reader of this magazine are fairly well know as opponents of heterosexual sex. They are convinced that every woman who get fucked by a man has to suffer.

We will never be able to convince them from the opposite and vice versa.

Best regards
Steve Holmes

Nebakanezer
New Member

somewhere between France and Poland
3 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jul 15 2003 : 7:59AM
Hi Steve,

of course Shylock and you are right. I beg your pardon. As you know, it´s all about the girls, isn´t it? I guess that would not have happened, if you were female.

When you say, these ladies cannot be convinced, you are perfectly right as well. They will never ever be convinced of anything, that does not fit into their dogma. They will perhaps try to convince the pornstar that her ways are wrong and they will heavily insult her for betraying her gender.
The chance I see here is something different. There is not the smallest chance to change the Emma-Dogma. But perhaps there might be some opportunity to exploit it. If it is possible to get one of Emma´s leading ladies interested and involved in a public discussion with a porngirl, other newspapers (let´s think of Bild as a newspaper for now) will get interested as well. If Schwarzer herself could be lured into that discussion and the porngirl stood her ground and appeared smart, combined with a nice girl attitude, she had a nearly guaranteed front page appearance in Germany´s favourite yellow paper. A friendly and well meaning appearance.
Probably more publicity than with anything she could ever do in porn.

As far as I remember german porn has always been dominated by one woman at her time. Orlewski, Buster, Wild. Isn´t there a void nowadays? Isn´t there a chance for some intelligent beautiful girl to step into that void? Isn´t a well known name pure money in your buisiness?

If I was a porngirl (I do not even look slightly as if I was one), I would consider giving it a try.

I just wanted to get this idea to someone who could do something with it. For me it´s worthless. And wouldn´t it be ironic to the limit to let Ms. Schwarzer play her part in creating a porn career?

My best wishes,

Nebakanezer

 
Steve Holmes
Senior Member

1235 Posts
12/02
Posted - Jul 18 2003 : 3:04AM
You are probably right, but most serious porn girls or guys don't want to be on the front page of Bild or in "Wa(h)re Liebe". What for? You get hardly paid anything and nobody books you more because you were there. Usually the looser like "Sachsen Paule" go there.

You mentioned Orlowski, Buster and Wild. They were exceptions. Theresa Orlowski and Dolly Buster were both married to the owner of the studio and used their public appearance to promote their company.

Gina Wild dreamed and still dreams of a career in mainstream entertainment.

I personally have been invited to so many TV shows in Germany, that I can't count it anymore. I never went. For me it was never ideology, but they just don't pay enough to move my ass.

Best regards
Steve Holmes

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