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palominorn
Member


I'M RICH BIATCH!
956 Posts
8/05
Posted - Dec 30 2005 : 8:44PM
as my old vcr ate a copy of afro erotica (vintage 1982) i was struck by the thought that lots of scenes are being lost to eternity - just look how may historical references are on excalibur and "no longer availble" are listed on jaded...
saratoga120
Senior Member

1404 Posts
5/05
Posted - Dec 30 2005 : 8:49PM
And why is that I wonder?

Are there legal issues invariably involved? I know with Excalibur many times I'd receive a film that had no packaging. It was likely just a duplicate from an original.

That was fine with me. Perhaps their other customers weren't so accommodating and once they started running out of original tapes, they didn't bother to replace them.

Or maybe no one wants to watch anything not on DVD these days.

picman
Senior Member

Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - Dec 30 2005 : 9:28PM
Why doesn't somebody at Hustler, who owns VCA, dig into the Wet goldmine they've been sitting on for so long. They could release double issues of Afro Erotica at a fair price and make a killing.
XrickyromaX
Member

449 Posts
2/05
Posted - Dec 31 2005 : 3:27AM
Ommmm. All things are temporary. Ommmm.
jrockmovie
Member

38 Posts
8/04
Posted - Jan 1 2006 : 7:26AM
Almost any tape that is "eaten" can be spliced and repaired. My suggestion, if you didn't throw it away, would be to splice it and transfer it to DVD.
 
Bandit One
Deactivated User

No Place That Far
612 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jan 1 2006 : 7:48AM
Yeah, there's a lot of great stuff from some awesome performers/directors that will never see the light of day on disc- particularly (and obviously) from the Eighties and early Nineties. Some of that era's best work is lost because of reasonable concerns over the bottom line.


I know Elegant Angel has a shitload of titles that have never made the transfer, and I wish someone "worthwhile" would pick up Extreme Associates back catalog and bring it up to date.

Mojo
Deactivated User

1223 Posts
9/03
Posted - Jan 1 2006 : 8:59AM
One of my favs, Nici Nici Bang Bang, will never see DVD release.....
mrdngm
Member

754 Posts
11/04
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 4:59AM
Tell me about it! I find at Excalibur even vids from just a few years ago end up as "historical reference" w/no DVD available.

If you look in the "shopping" forum you'll see threads about how Excalibur has long been licensed to make its own dupes (anyone whose ordered from them will understand this). So, why should anything become "historical reference" if they had the ability to keep making copies? I don't understand...

Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Your other left
14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 11:24AM
Well, they may be licensed, but that doesn't necessarily extend to their entire catalog. The licenses may be for specific movies.
M.B.
Senior Member

1679 Posts
2/01
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 1:46PM
Let Me Tell Ya Bout Black Chicks is a classic that will probably never be released on DVD. The scene where Sahara did two white guys in KKK hoods was shocking at the time.
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 2:18PM
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 2:21PM
I suspect that over time many of the films that people are looking for will show up. Companies like VCA are releasing their classic libraries, just slowly over time. I suspect so that each title can make money before they release the next one.

As for Excalibur, I expect that their license to dub is being redone by many companies as they release titles and plan to in the future release titles that Excalibur was licensed to dub. Many films that Excalibur used to dub on their own now have official releases. I expect that many that are historical reference one will see get a DVD release within the next three years.

de25ge
Member

yes I'm virilis
954 Posts
11/05
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 3:16PM
How many of the 70's or 80's flicks are still available in any form?
Is there someone who collects it to preserve it?

So when a title is out of stock .. it's gone ?

Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 3:54PM
When a title is out of stock it is not gone. It just means that copies aren't available for sale at the current time. If you view the Golden Age Classic list it shows films from 1972 through 1984 that are available on DVD. Adding in the early 70s and 85 through 89 several thousand films are currently available.
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 4:22PM
Films of historical relevance are preserved by the Library of Congress.
 
de25ge
Member

yes I'm virilis
954 Posts
11/05
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 4:34PM
Librarian of Porn
only in his free time of course
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 4:37PM
I wish Max Hardcore would shoot more BTS stuff for his DVD's. Now that would be really interesting!
Everett
Senior Member

2088 Posts
6/05
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 5:10PM
Flash you're right on target. The Let Me Tell you series and other classic VCA's are on DVD. Yesterday I ran across a copy of "Inside Marilyn Chambers" on VHS and I want to get it: for 15.00 dollar. I want to know if anybody has ever seen this probably dating from 1980 or 81. This was made before the concept of the "Inside" style of movies became popular. But is this movie a thorough run through of Chambers' career up to that time or is it just an early example of a clip show which the "Inside" movies have become?

**Also since we're on the subject of hard to find classic titles. Where would one find a copy of Marilyn Chambers's "Resurrection of Eve" vintage 1978? This is an almost impossible title to find VHS or DVD. A very beautifully photographed flick by porn standards

Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 7:03PM
A few things:

Copyrights (like Excalibur buys) are usually sold for a limited time (from 1 year to ??), so when that time is up you are not allowed to make your own copies anymore. In the old days we did the same, just buy copyrights and make our own tapes (also it was easier to smuggle mastertapes into the UK then containers full of regular tapes )

Also if you want to release your old stuff on DVD, sometimes (even if you have the original masters) the picture/sound quality is just crap. I know the collectors and serious fans will still buy a copy, but unless it was a bestseller on VHS, chances are a studio is not willing to spend the time and money on making a crappy DVD, that won't sell many units. (Yes, I know some classics look like they just copied an old rental tape, but luckily not all studio's are like that)

Jacco

Infidel
Member

76 Posts
12/05
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 8:25PM
does anyone remember the studios "emerald" "sunshine" and "sensations"?! cuz i had some old porn movies from those companies, they were from the mid to late 90's. been wanting to know what happened to them.
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 8:27PM
Resurrection of Eve is available on a beautiful DVD from Mitchell Brothers Film Group.
Everett
Senior Member

2088 Posts
6/05
Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 8:54PM
super. Thank you.
M.B.
Senior Member

1679 Posts
2/01
Posted - Jan 4 2006 : 9:09AM
I know that, I was talking about Let Me Tell Ya Bout BLACK Chicks (not white chicks).
This movie has been out of circulation for more than 15 or 20 years. You can't buy the VHS anywhere, let alone the DVD.
SD3270
Member

58 Posts
12/05
Posted - Jan 4 2006 : 9:43AM
I have a copy of "Let Me Tell Ya Bout Black Chicks" on VHS from like 1988 that I copied from someone else.....it's seen better days....I would LOVE to get another copy and then transfer it to DVD. I've actually found people on the internet that make copies of and sell movies from their own collection. I've actually gotten a few television series that have not actually been released this way. Check around....you may find someone that has a good copy and would be willing to make you one. Hell, I saw a guy online about 5 yrs ago that was making copies (for a fee) of his movies including "NEW WAVE HOOKERS" WITH the Tracy Lords scene still intact. Tempting because it was a classic....not tempting because it technically is child porn because of Tracy's age at the time (lol) I steered clear of that one....lol



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