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Maximum Booty
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New Orleans
347 Posts
9/02
Posted - Dec 7 2002 : 3:01PM
Hi,
having drinks with some friend's last night in the French Quarter and we started discussing porn. Because things really started picking up we didn't get too far along so I could not ask the questions I was curious about. Judging by the little scanning I do of new release gay porn discs it looks like most gay porn seems heavily plotted. Is this the case or has the extreme gonzo mindset of straight porn present in all male porn as well? Are you seeing ATM, dap, cum swapping and the like? Is all condoms still the general rule. Thanks...its a slow Saturday and I was just curious.

Max Booty
"If something's hard to do, then its not worth doing."

BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

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Posted - Dec 7 2002 : 3:26PM
I've only seen three gay releases, all three I have reviewed.

The thing I notice is that they "get away" with a bit more than str8 porn. Gay porn can show fisting and piss play, of course you hhave to buy these direct from the studio or retailers who can sell hardcore edits, with the inflated price.

Gay DVDs cost double and triple the amount of str8 titles, which could be a deterent for those looking for quality, because you have to pay for it.

I have also seen some very rough and nasty sex in those gay releases that would probably be cut out of str8 porn.

The guys are bigger, muscle wise, and all sex is condoms, well of what I've seen. There weren't any "cumshots" as in typical str8 porn, but there was cum eating. No cum swapping that I recall. And I don't think there is ATM [A2M].

The three gay titles that I've seen did have some up to the elbow fisting, which looked amazing, to say the least.

---BIGmike, going and going and going since MCMLXXX---

joeblow69
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946 Posts
2/00
Posted - Dec 7 2002 : 3:40PM
I guess I wouldn't say that gay movies are particularly story driven. Most have at least a theme to them, though, and if there is a story, it's just enough to tie the scenes together.

Mainstream gay porn is still all condoms, so you won't see any cum-swapping (people eat their own cum, though) and ATM is something I've never seen. DAP still happens though, but not nearly enough for my tastes (ie you'll probably never see a all DAP video in gay porn).

If you move away from the mainstream a bit, you'll come across pretty much any kind of extreme thing you want. Cum eating, bareback, etc... Just the other day I was reading the description of a video:

hehe...

Obviously, safety and STDs are not a big concern among these non-mainstream companies.

GaySatyr
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Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
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10/00
Posted - Dec 7 2002 : 4:31PM
Taking your points/questions one at a time (& a few your didn't ask/make):
  • heavily plotted - well, depends on your definition of "heavily" - most plots are more loose than the proverbial ...

  • extreme gonzo mindset - there are some gonzo gay releases, in fact, there were gonzo gay releases well before they existed in the straight porn realm (the original "Closed Set" by Joe Gage was made in the late 70's and released in 1980); however, they represent only a very small segment of the gay porn market.

  • ATM - while it may happen, it is not featured as such (see note below)

  • dap - yes, quite often, actually

  • cum swapping - rare, although there is some cum eating (see note below)

  • all condoms - in most cases, yes (see note below)

  • on average, the men in gay porn are at least an order of magnitude more attractive than those in straight porn (there are also a few real dogs, though)

  • probably about half of the "stars" in gay porn consider themselves to be straight (meaning that off-camera, they prefer heterosexual sex), regardless of their orientation (top/bottom) in gay videos - there are a few gay stars who are gay but who pretend to be straight off-camera (duh??? a closeted gay actor in a gay porn video???)

  • as with straight porn, there is a awful lot of really poor quality product on the market - often from otherwise respected gay porn producers - and, with a very few exceptions, neither studio, nor director, nor star, nor price is an indicator of quality

  • in general, gay porn sells for about 2.5X the street prices of straight porn - some of this is attributable to the smaller market demand; however some of it is price gouging of a minority market
Note: Gay studios embraced very safe sex guidelines very early as a result of information about the HIV/AIDS crisis and its prevalence in the gay world. A very few studios and a very few gay porn actors have recently reverted to condomless sex; however, the consensus is that this is very irresponsible of them. Plus, most (if not all) of the actors who are currently engaging in condomless sex in videos are either known to be or suspected of being infected with the HIV virus.

One final note: BIGmike has reviewd 3 videos from Titan Media (and directed by Bruce Cam, an especially talented gay porn producer/director) - an especially good studio that specializes in slightly older (some late 20's, 30's & early/mid 40's) and generally more rugged (& often hairy) men. There are other studios with other specialities and featuring a variety of ages, age ranges, body types and appearances. Some particularly & consistantly good ones are Bel Ami (George Duroy), High Octane (Herve Handsome), and especially Sarava (Kristen Bjorn, Lucas Kazan, etc.).

~ GaySatyr

Maximum Booty
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New Orleans
347 Posts
9/02
Posted - Dec 7 2002 : 5:46PM
Hi,
thanks....like I said I was curious and I knew my opinions would be based on little knowledge.

Max Booty
"If something's hard to do, then its not worth doing."

 
Chillin
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San Diego
208 Posts
9/01
Posted - Dec 7 2002 : 6:45PM
okay...now what's this called and can I get overnight shipping?

Chillin..

joeblow69
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Posted - Dec 8 2002 : 11:47AM
The movie in question is called "Breeding Mike O'Neil" and you can see some screenshots of all the depravity here. Hmm... guess it's not on DVD yet
Chillin
Member

San Diego
208 Posts
9/01
Posted - Dec 8 2002 : 1:56PM
Wow, now this is the kind of stuff that I was asking for in this thread.

They have some dvds too, have you ever purchased from them or seen the quality of the dvds?

Chillin..

brunob333
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139 Posts
10/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 8:57AM
Please, if "Breeding Mike O'Neil" ever comes out on DVD, let me know! Or just post a thread here saying so, that would be nice. Thanks!
Chillin
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San Diego
208 Posts
9/01
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 11:00PM
It looks pretty damn good, huh bruno..

Chillin..

brunob333
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139 Posts
10/02
Posted - Dec 24 2002 : 11:02AM
Plowed, by the same company, is out on dvd and looks pretty good also... anybody here has seen it and has comments before I take the plunge?
joeblow69
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946 Posts
2/00
Posted - Dec 29 2002 : 7:36PM
Bruno,

I found a review of Plowed! for you...

brunob333
Member

139 Posts
10/02
Posted - Dec 29 2002 : 11:06PM
Thanks a bunch! I'll go read it in a sec...
GaySatyr
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Posted - Dec 30 2002 : 5:19AM
mannet.com reviews need to be read rather carefully. Their very worst rating is Recommended - followed by Highly recommended and finishing with Highly, highly recommended - just so you know the scoring.

~ GaySatyr

joeblow69
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Posted - Dec 30 2002 : 8:54AM
GaySatyr's right... I probably should have mentioned that. Some of Mannet's reviews tend to be a little, um, "optimistic".

I have seen 1 or 2 get a rating called "Consider", though, which must mean "only consider if you have lived a full life and have you longer need for your eyes".

 
GaySatyr
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Posted - Dec 30 2002 : 10:27AM
Hee! Hee! Hee! I think JB's line should have read, "only consider if you have lived a full life and you NO longer HAVE ANY need for your eyes."

~ GaySatyr

joeblow69
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Posted - Dec 30 2002 : 1:24PM
Holy cow, I guess I sure was in a hurry this morning when I wrote that! You all know what I meant, though!
Chillin
Member

San Diego
208 Posts
9/01
Posted - Dec 31 2002 : 12:58PM
Hahaha..no, I just think you watched one of those "Consider" movies and weren't able to proofread!

Chillin..




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