If anything, I think today, there has been a greater emphasis of performers showing passion (espially the girls).

I seem to recall an old Ed Powers scene were the girl apologizes for having a og. Read almost any review today and almost always there is a comment on "chemistry".

A: I think it is not so much the girl (pretty or not) but the male she is working with. I think most of good guys (at least the ones I watch) seen to spend much more time trying to turn the girls on then in those "good-ol days" (ex. Manuel, Julian, Steve Holmes etc.).

B: check out Sunny Lane, Penny Flame and Tiffany Minx to name a few.

I used to not really pay attention to the males in any given scene, but I have come to realize that if the guy is a good lover and goes out of his way to turn the girl on (lots foreplay), the scene can be explosive.

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Edited by - clam digger on 9/14/2006 8:47:22 AM

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I had a few old scenes that I remembered fondly and when I tracked them down I found that they were not nearly up to today's standard.

I also agree that the men in porn have a lot to do with the current quality. Watch a film with Eric Everhard and see the BTS footage of him. He is always eating pussy because he really wants to. If anything is going to turn a girl on, that is it. A good example is in the original "Semen Sippers." You can see how turned on the Brunette in the first scene is in the BTS footage. She even swoons into him a little at one point.

One reason I like BTS scenes is that when the official cameras are one you expect the girls to at least act turned on. When they are turned on for BTS footage it is easier believe it is not just an act.

When I saw Missy Monroe getting a DP in BTS of "Semen Sippers 3" just because she really likes DPs, she made a fan.

I also think the men have an impact in that the girls in the industry learn the unspoken rules from them. If they never go for a kiss, the girls will learn that it is both not expected of them, and somehow "wrong." When EE and that French Dude that Mike John uses a lot kiss the girls it is both hot and teaches the girls that it is something that happens in porn. When a guy dutifully treats the girls like a john would treat a whore and politely stays away from her face, she will pick up that whore ethos and avoid kissing with other men as well.

I would expand the credit for the passion in front of the camera beyond just to the men in front of the camera but to those in back as well. I think directors today bring out a lot more from the talent. When I started my true porn hound days in the late 80's I would get a stack of four tapes and hope to get more than one sizzling scene. If I got four good scenes out of four tapes it was like hitting the jackpot. These days, as long as I am careful about the directors, I expect to get three or four good scenes per disc.

In other words, I am getting at least five times as many good scenes per movie as I used to expect.

The odd thing about this from my perspective is that where I used to follow a girl from movie to movie, I now follow directors from girl to girl. In the past, when the directors were not nearly as important, all the heat came from the girl. If you wanted a good scene and you found a girl who would give it you sought out all of her scenes. You might only be guaranteed that one good scene from the movie, but one good scene per movie was above the average in any case.

I now find myself in the odd position of liking certain girls but still only seeing them a few times because I only want to see them with a director I trust. Following the girl from disc to disc now often means that even though I am seeing a girl I really liked before I am getting as much out of the scene as I would have seeing a different girl with the original director.

An example of this is "Pride Open" by Smash pictures. Melissa Lauren was smoking in "Semen Sippers 3," but here she is fine but nothing all that special. Missy Monroe manages to bring the heat, but still not as much as she did in SS 3. I think a lot the difference is attributable to the difference between Mike John as director and whoever directed "Pride Open."

There is a reason that directors are so important in Hollywood. It turns out that they are just as important down in the valley.

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I think porn will always sort of mirror the times. There weren't nearly as many films being made in the 70's & early 80's as there are today. You either watched films at your local theater, got them at an adult bookstore, or thru mailorder. Because they were so few of them being made, more time was spent making them. I think this created a bond between the actors that may not exist as much today. Plus the films were illegal, so I think it produced an us-against-the-world attitude. Money wasn't as much an issue. Sex was rarely volcanic and rarely lasted longer than 10 minutes, and 10 minutes was a good day. While it was rarely volcanic, it always looked comfortable and people usually looked to be having a good time. Probably helped that things like kissing and pussy-eating were encouraged and expected. The women always seemed like they were extremely underfucked though. Imagine if someone like Vanessa Del Rio was just starting today. Still Vanessa and them always looked like they were having a lot of fun.

Add cable & satellite tv, the internet, radio and satellite radio, and the media, and you'll find that porn has become a huge business with many seeing dollar signs in their heads. Add a fickle public who needs and wants more bang for their buck. Normal fucking does nothing for them anymore. So what passes for heat these days are extreme acts performed with extreme force and extreme speed. Even regular anal sex doesn't do much for some. Now things like double anal and double vaginal fucking seem to be becoming more popular. Dicks are getting bigger and bigger with big facials becoming expected. Just Gonzo and all-sex films being taken to the extreme. Even though I think 80% of modern porn blows, when the sex is good, it's far superior to anything from the 70's or 80's. DVD, better cameras & technology, and more intense & toned performers have allowed sex to go on for much longer periods. 10 minute scenes have been replaced with 20 and 30 minute scenes, with 40 minutes not being out-of-the-question. More bang for your buck indeed.

Each period has its own charms and I like a little of both. I still think the majority of today's films probably have like only 1-2 good scenes in them like the classics, difference is, is that I'm not forced to watch them now. Thanks to sites like this one, I'm rarely disappointed in anything I get now, whether it's old or newer.

I disagree with the males getting all the praise or blame in sex scenes. It'll always take two-to-tangle IMO. Just amuses me when I see performers always blaming the other person/persons when a scene doesn't go well, as if they played no part.

Edited by - scipio on 9/16/2006 4:58:38 AM

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