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Mythsong
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 12:01AM
Has any actor (male or female) ever used their real name (either from the beginning or later on) rather than an alias? For obvious reasons this would be something almost nobody would do. But has it ever happened?

Also, what's the frequency of adult->mainstream actors who change their names at the switch? First, I know that this switch is also very rare but it does occur. However, the only examples I can think of are all of people still using their adult career name. Does anybody know of somebody who switched genres and their name so as to avoid (as much as possible) any perceived stigma from their old profession? (My lack of knowledge here has to do with, at least until recently, my almost total ignorance of the adult industry.)

Pontus Maximus
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 12:34AM
Mythsong, I think you'll find this thread interesting.

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YogaGrrl
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 9:58AM
Well, according to her interview with Astroknight, Julia Ann uses her real name (though presumably that's her real first and middle names, not last name):

I decided, I have so many girlfriends that call me, you grow up with strippers and everybody's got two names, and it was so irritating to be out at the mall and be "Uhhhh, you know I'd like to say hi to her, but she's with somebody and I'm really not sure what her name is today". So, and I have other girls like that in the industry, that you know they'll call me in a little bit and be like "Call me, but my Mom's in town so if you leave a message, it's this". (Laughs) And you know, quite frankly I think they all find out and then they think they have one up on you, because they know what your real name is, and so I would rather just give it to them. Bypass all the they-think-that-they-know-something-I-don't-know-they-know.

Mythsong
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 10:57AM
Actually, I'd already read that thread (although forgotten about it when I posted). Perhaps I should clarify what I'm asking here. I don't care to know anybody's real name, and am not asking to get any such information. (I'm not interested in "out"-ing anybody.) I'm just curious if it's ever been done.

Many mainstream actors also use fake names. (Michael Caine was recently knighted under his real name of Sir Maurice Micklewhite.) They use "fake" names becaue they don't think that their real names will sound right on the screen. While this may play a small part in the adult business, I'm thinking that the more obvious reason is for anononymity.

But if there were no stigma attached to the adult business and/or if a particular person didn't feel like they had anything to hide, there'd be no reason to remain anonymous - would there? If the adult industry were just as accepted as anything else, and were a valid career that society made people proud of participating it, I'm thinking that there'd be more people not bothering with aliases for the sake of anonymity (although they might still be used for sounding better in credits).

As for the second part of my question, I know that people such as Traci Lords and Jenna Jameson kept their adult name when they switched over to mainstream productions. This is likely because they were playing on their previous reputation. Or does it have to do with the fact that even when working in mainstream they don't want to reveal their actual names because it will, retroactively, impact their anonymity?

Actually, this has some bearing on all of us posting here too. We all go by an avatar name. Nobody will be shocked to discover that my real name is not Mythsong. <grin> While, perhaps, a small part of me enjoys the role playing aspects of taking on another character, I have little doubt that I'd be using my real name on this board if being "found out", in terms of who I am in real life, wasn't a consideration. Is it likely that if I used my real name anybody would care, or anybody I know would discover my activity here? Probably not. But there's still that hesitation to do so on the off chance that it would come back to bite us. I can't help but feel that even this attitude contributes to some small degree to keeping the discussion of sex in the closet. I'd feel better about myself if I didn't hide behind an avatar - but I don't have enough conviction in my beliefs (who cares what others think) to change things.

Edited by - Mythsong on 1/30/2003 11:04:41 AM

PornoBoy
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 12:00PM
A lot of actors/actresses use their first and middle name for their porn name...Joel Lawrence is one example.
 
YogaGrrl
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 12:00PM
I can relate to what you're saying, Mythsong. I definitely feel twinges of inner conflict about operating under a nickname.

Not all that long ago, I received a very kind and sincere invitation (from a director whom I particularly trust) to appear in a masturbation scene. I'm really glad that happened, because it gave me a chance to carefully think through the amount of stigma that's often still associated with porn. I don't believe I could continue to work in my current profession in my small, conservative hometown after appearing in a porn movie (actually, the mere fact that I'm a reviewer would probably enough to make some of my business clients uncomfortable). Mr. Yoga also raised some legitimate objections to me getting naked on screen, which I can well understand.

I politely declined the offer. It was not necessarily an easy choice, however, since the idea of displaying myself on film plays directly into one of my many fantasies. I was surprised when a stage name drifted so easily into my mind--it was like my subconscious had already prepared for this possiblity. Who knows, I might still use that nom de porn if I ever get busy and write a screenplay. My real last name is somewhat difficult to spell and pronounce.

dumblonde
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 1:12PM
"But if there were no stigma attached to the adult business and/or if a particular person didn't feel like they had anything to hide, there'd be no reason to remain anonymous - would there? "

I can think of one big reason. Adult or mainstream, there's just too many wackos and stalkers out there who get fixated on people. I'm sure some consideration for the person's family, who might not want the attention, comes into play as well.

Darth-Morpheous
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 1:19PM
I could be wrong but I think I read that Layla Jade uses her real name.
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 3:56PM
I don't think that this is what you are asking for exactly, but John Anthony Bailey changed his name to Jack Baker when he went from mainstream to porn.

SueR
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 10:33PM
The alpha Dark Brother went from Greg Dark in porn to Gregory Hippolyte, Alexander Gregory Hippolyte and Gregory H. Brown(mainstream B-movies) back to Greg Dark (porn and MTV videos). Real name: Gregory Hippolyte Brown
Planet Sex
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 11:33PM
Yep. Stryc-9 and Bisexual Britni.

Planet Sex
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 11:36PM
Seriosly, now... once, Ed Powers got pissed at Peter North and credited him under his REAL name on a movie.

Which movie? I don´t remember, but I´m 100% that it has Peter North in it. Under his real name. And is directed by Ed Powers. Now search on!

Mythsong
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 11:37PM
Did you ever consider going on the set and shooting the scene but then keeping the footage and making sure it never went anywhere? You could have had the experience of seeing what it's like both being in front of the camera and being involved in such a production, had the footage to keep for your private use, and also not had to worry about anybody ever seeing anything since it wouldn't be edited into the final movie.

The only reason I suggest it at all is because you say you trust the director (and that would be a very important consideration) and because if it really were a way of making a fantasy come true without any drawbacks it might be something to pursue in the future.

Mythsong
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 11:41PM
Interesting.
Was this something generally known at the time, or only revealed after all of this? (Kind of like pen names some authors use in their early careers, or who write certain genres under a nom de plume.)
Mythsong
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 11:42PM
Whatever were their parents thinking? Just think of the joking that must have gone at school... <grin>
 
Planet Sex
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 11:43PM
I remember his real name (and Walter Dark´s real name as well) being mentioned on the press during the Traci Lords scandal, somewhere in 1985. The Dark Bros worked with Traci in two movies.
Mythsong
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Posted - Jan 30 2003 : 11:46PM
I wonder who would get more stalker type attention - people like Michael Jackson or Jenna Jameson?

Speaking of which, even if real names aren't used, don't such unsavory characters still track down the person, by whatever name they're using, and cause all sorts of problems anyway? Of course, you're right, the families could only be bothered less if real names weren't used...

YogaGrrl
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Posted - Jan 31 2003 : 11:03AM
LOL! What a delightful idea! Except...a big part of my fantasy is that hundreds (maybe even thousands) of people that I don't even know would be watching me. Anyhow, the director is a professional. I wouldn't want to impose on his time with no expectation of financial return for him.

I offered my services as a narrator instead. (I've already built up a fairly good resume in that area, recording for non-porn productions). He doesn't have any of that type of work available for me right now, but he knows I'm available if the need arises in the future. I'll post my alias here if I'm fortunate enough that this ever comes to pass.

PornoBoy
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Posted - Jan 31 2003 : 11:56AM
More name dropping - Mike Horner used to use his real name (Don Hart)...not sure why he decided to change.

WillJ
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Posted - Feb 5 2003 : 9:57PM
I'm thinking John Holme's real name was John Holmes. . . although I'm fairly sure "The Wadd" wasn't on his birth certificate as his middle name. . .

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constance le
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Posted - Feb 6 2003 : 3:13AM
it's quite common for british actors and actresses to use, or start out using, their real names.
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Posted - Feb 6 2003 : 3:08PM
According to an interview I read, Ava Vincent's 1st moniker, Jewel Valmont, was her real name. Can you believe it ? Nothing sounds more like an alias than Jewel Valmont !

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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Feb 6 2003 : 3:20PM
Nope. Neither Jewel Valmont OR Ava Vincent are her real names.
aarle
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Posted - Feb 6 2003 : 4:25PM
I recall reading somewhere (could have been AVN) that the actor (then still working under his pornname of) Jake Williams said that everybody was calling him by his real name all the time on set, so he had decided to switch from his stagename to using his real name (I'm not gonna out it, but it should be easy to figure out ).

As for the fact that almost nobody would use their real name.
There is one reason why real names are used in the credits of movies: mistakes.
More often than you would think people have been billed by their real names instead of their stage names by directors or producers.

I'm pretty sure Peter North was billed under his real name several times early in his career (so not just by Ed Powers, as mentioned here).

And I recall seeing Eric Edwards billed under his real name at least 3 or 4 times.


Peter van Aarle

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Posted - Feb 6 2003 : 4:29PM
Well, I read it in last month's "X-rated cinema & video", which is a publication from Genesis media group, in a (supposed) interview. I also thought the story sounded bogus. It's pretty much the only US-imported porn review mag available in France, unfortunately. It's always nice to get information by "real" insiders. I'll take these "interviews" with a grain of salt from now on. Or maybe it was just Ava having fun with the journalist. She sounds like a smart cookie.
 
Saki
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Posted - Feb 6 2003 : 4:31PM
I'm a little late on the uptake, but thanks for joining us, Peter. Perhaps one of the few people who has seen more porn than I have

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aarle
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Posted - Feb 6 2003 : 5:12PM
I hope your not under the impression I've seen all titles in the IAFD...
Not even half


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