Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00
Posted - Dec 20 2001 : 5:53AM
Either we live in a golden era of porn or some reviewers are getting a bit too generous in their ratings...
We have more and more of 5s and 4.5s. What puzzles me is sometimes some reviewers rating a movie as 3.5 have a better opinion of it than someone rating it 5. Also many times the shortest and less elaborate reviews get the highest ratings.
There used to be a time when doing a search by rating you did get in a few pages a relatively short listing of the best available, not anymore...
Of course we all have some favorite reviewers that we trust more than others, but this abuse of the rating system makes it almost worthless in the end (except for 1s and 2s which are good at pointing terrible movies).
Maybe ADTshould change the rating scale for a new one going 1 to 10, while insisting on the fact that 9, 9.5, 10 are only for outstanding DVDs not the latest run of the mill compilation by Private.
The reviews I do, I list the action that goes on in the scenes first. This way if you read what goes on in the scene, you can decide if it's your tastes.
At the end of my reviews I put OVERALL (this is where I list a brief summary of what I just listed.)
At the very end I list FINAL THOUGHTS (this is my opinion of the DVD.)
I have only given out 12 ratings of 5, out of 60 reviews, so far, if you have a question, comment, or complaint about my reviews visit this forum: BIGmike's Reviews
-I'd love to hear what you all think of my reviews!
Some interesting points, but I am not sure changing the scale of the ratings would make a lot of difference. I am not really a fan of this anyway - it kind of defeats the point of writing a review if it can all be boiled down to a handful of scores. Hmm, now you mention it...
I think I have only given one movie 5 - Euro Hardball 11, as I recall - and the rest marks ranging from fairly good through to excellent, or whatever the term is. Generally, all the movies I review I buy myself. I only buy stuff that years of experience suggest I will like.
This year has seen some excellent movies from Christoph Clark and Rocco Siffredi that I have really enjoyed (in the case of Rocco, perhaps more like movies with some REALLY excellent scenes) so there is no way I would give them a low score. I think it has been a pretty good year for porn, as far as I am concerned!
I could post some reviews slating Zane movies, for example, but what would the point be? They're like Steps (UK pop pap reference here) - no one with any idea thinks they are good!
Of the 13 reviews that I have done I have only handed out one rating of 5 (to an '82 film) and no ratings of 4.5. I've got a few with a 4 though. But the 5 and 4.5 I hold out for the best of the best.
Joey, this topic comes up every once in awhile and I think you raise some good points. I'm not a fan of grade inflation either and I've said so a number of times in the past. One of the reasons I left for a sabbatical was to prevent myself from falling into the "everything looks great" or "everything looks like crap" trap. You'll find reviewers (not just here either) that love everything they see enough to give a grade of 4 or better on almost everything they review just like you'll find the extremists who seemingly can't get off on anyone who looks over 18 (hi Patrick!).
I do remember someone telling me that the reason they give out such high grades so often is that they only review the best stuff they watch and don't waste the time on the lower quality stuff. Personally, I think part of the purpose to writing a review is to save the rest of us from throwing away our hard earned money but perhaps companies treat "positive" reviewers better. I couldn't say, not being one.
In any case, learn to read between the lines when reading a review and you'll eventually figure out what each reviewers grading curve, as well as any quirks they have, are and act accordingly. Take care, Don
I think it's kinda pointless to quibble about grade inflation. Do you think everyone here who writes a review is a porn expert?
Besides everyone's obvious differences in taste, we all have different familiarity with porn movies in general as well. Some people have seen so many movies, they're walking porn encyclopedias. Others haven't seen quite so much, and for that reason I'd guess they unknowingly "inflate" their ratings simply because they enjoyed the movie. Afterwards, when these same people see a few more movies and realize what better quality productions are out there, they continue to award high scores, never going back to change their initial review ratings to reflect their broader experience (is it even possible to do so?)
If somebody's songs of high praise led you to buy a really sucky movie, well I'm sorry for that. The best thing I can recommend is that you try reading multiple reviews, if they're available. Or look at screencaps from the movie in question. Generally I can get a good idea about a movie after reading a couple reviews.
Not sure who to trust? Search for a movie you HAVE seen, then read the reviews on it. Maybe one of these guys has seen another one you're interested in. HoustonDon and Astroknight seem to have seen every porn movie ever made. After a while, you'll get an idea of what HoustonDon thinks "warm" is, and what makes Astroknight fall out of his chair laughing, and you can go from there.
I'd hate to think that a prerequisite for writing what some would think is a "fair" review is a strong familiarity with no less than hundreds of different titles, of every genre.
To ADT: Perhaps this could be an idea for a new forum/page? That is, reviewers could post an explanation of their reviewing style, what they like/dislike, how much they've seen, and we could find all of this in one convenient location...I think it might help some.
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Posted - Dec 24 2001 : 12:18PM
yungturk - exactly! i laugh at some of my early thoughts on porn. at this time it is not possible for reviewers to edit an old review, unless they email me and i change it. we do hope to allow people to edit reviews at some point.
also we plan to have reviewer profiles, which would be accessible from that reviewer's reviews. if we put it in the forum only a small percent of the people who read reviews would see it.
My first review was number 827 on this site, now there almost 2500. I love writing up reviews. My first 5 or six reviews I did off the top of my head, which is why my review of Whack Attack is messed up in the middle. I may redo that review, but I don't know.
Now I watch and type or write at the same time (I've only editted two of my reviews, due to my not knowing.)
My porno knowledge is increasing, I only have only seen 100 or so porn DVDs, and I have reviewed 62. I intend to write reviews for every DVD I own, in time.
Joey, though I understand where you are coming from, do keep in mind that these are not professional reviews. The reviews are from porn fans who are doing a service for other porn fans. Since we are not paid to be reviewers, we have no real obligation to write reviews. The more restrictions that are placed on reviews, the less reviews you will see. You may want to ask yourself, if a fellow fan took the time to write a review, then is it too much for me to try to learn more about the reviewer?
Steph, I am not sure what measures would really need to be taken to create 'get to know your reviewer' space. It has occurred to me that since I already have space, I could always do something on my own. It may help however to include a signature on the reviews. We could fill it with a 'get to know your reviewer' section or a link.
Drew, on my home page I wanted to create a link that would go to search results for Endorphin, but it did not work. How can I do it?
Still Campaigning for Inari Vachs Can I sing 2 U while U bring urself 2 joy?, I'll go slow at first, while u quench ur thirst --from Mellow by Prince
right now creating reviewer profiles will take a lot of work. keep in mind that the review system was the first thing created on adt. we're in the midst of a redesign of the price search and reviews system. once this is done we can get to stuff like reviewer profiles.
in the meantime, reviewers are all welcome to free webspace. you can link to it in your reviews.
I guess I've turned into one of those "positive" reviewers lately, not because I like everything I see, but because I'm much more selective now in what I watch. I just can't force myself to watch bad porn on purpose anymore, even if it is for the good of the nation.
Steph-- Thanks for giving us the link to our search results. I've been wondering how to do that for a while. I just tried it (with "yogagrrl" instead of "dorph"), and it worked like a charm.
I'll add that link to the end of all my reviews from now on. --YG
LOL. I just noticed this ‘ADT reviews ratings’ thread has had 12 replies and 260 views in its 2 week lifespan while ‘The Naked Truth about Porn’ has had a single reply but 288 views in like 2 days. There could be some insight into relative interest levels there…
Re: reviewing, a list of reviewers top 3 movies ever would be helpful. (Sadly I have close to no idea what mine would be though). Screenshots are always great but from the actual text of reviews you just have to take what you get. People have wildly different standards. Anyone here could name their favourite movie ever and within an hour we could have a dozen people who hated it. Some people obviously let their overall opinion affect all the other scores too.
As someone considering doing the odd review I can understand that there’s a fair degree of time involved in trying to do them well. You can understand that people in the early stage of reviewing might want to start off with something they either like or hate a lot (reviewing completely average product isn’t as easy as it might sound) so there could be more frequent incidence of high scores early on. The scoring system will vary from reviewer to reviewer too so I guess people just have to take from them what they want to.