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yogib Member 175 Posts 11/04	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 4:54PM Suddenly, most pictures (box covers, screen shots, etc) at Adult DVD Empire are not displayed anymore. Instead, a grey box appears (where, normally, a picture would appear) with the caption "Restricted Due To 2257 Regulation " printed inside it. Can someone please explain what on Earth is going on? I wrote to their customer service but there's been no response yet. What is this "2257 Regulation"? Thanks. Topic Moved by - Drew Black on Jun 26 2005 [Link]
Redish Poetic Moderator Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine 4076 Posts 12/03	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 4:59PM The search function button in the upper right hand corner is your friend. Seriously. Not trying to be a smartass. Well, maybe a little. Just search for 2257 or posts by Drew Black. [Link]
-Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 5:07PM What I find interesting is that AdultDVDEmpire is in full-on 2257 compliance mode right now, taking down a dizzying amount of boxcovers and screenshots(!). However, other retail sites such as adultcdmovies and jadedvideo are proceeding with business as normal. Hmmm. [Link]
yogib Member 175 Posts 11/04	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 5:14PM Redish wrote: The search function button in the upper right hand corner is your friend. Seriously. Not trying to be a smartass. Well, maybe a little. Just search for 2257 or posts by Drew Black. Click to expand Thanks for the tip, Redish. Did the search and got a whole load of info about 2257. Damn, looks like the Land of the Free is slowly losing its freedoms. What a pity! [Link]
The Hitman Member 8 Posts 6/05	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 5:51PM yogib wrote: Redish wrote: Damn, looks like the Land of the Free is slowly losing its freedoms. What a pity! Click to expand Indeed. Taylor Rain fan. [Link]

GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 6:00PM TSCfan317 wrote: What I find interesting is that AdultDVDEmpire is in full-on 2257 compliance mode right now, taking down a dizzying amount of boxcovers and screenshots(!). However, other retail sites such as adultcdmovies and jadedvideo are proceeding with business as normal. Hmmm. Click to expand ADE has already been hit hard by the DOJ once -- remember? I don't blame them for playing it by the [perverted] book. ~ GaySatyr (ABB) [Link]
-Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 7:18PM "I don't blame them for playing it by the [perverted] book." I don't either. Just wondering why the other sites aren't following ADE's lead. Edited by - tscfan317 on 6/25/2005 7:18:31 PM [Link]
threesomebody Official BlowBang Judge Would you like my autograph? 2491 Posts 12/04	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 7:23PM Adultdvdmarketplace has removed most cover pictures already, as well, yet action-dvd.com still is business as usual. It's interesting to keep an eye on, that's for sure. [Link]
Endless Loop Senior Member Tomatometer 1129 Posts 8/04	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 7:26PM So I assume site operators, specializing in "Granny Porn" can go about things laissez faire, conveniently immune from the pestilence of this vast scourging. [Link]
The Hitman Member 8 Posts 6/05	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 8:47PM Endless Loop wrote: So I assume site operators, specializing in "Granny Porn" can go about things laissez faire, conveniently immune from the pestilence of this vast scourging. Click to expand lol Taylor Rain fan. [Link]
tmd5 Member seika izumi 502 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 9:00PM Don't you just love ole George W. Bush? Our country has gone to shit thanks to this man. This is probably just the start of things to come. I honestly don't think there is much to worry about. As if they'd actually go after people that don't have the required info. I'll be amazed if they actually do. I run an adult site selling DVDs and I refuse to follow these rules, they can come after me if they want. I sell Japanese titles, how am I supposed to get the required information from companies? It's impossible! [Link]
porn oyster Member 150 Posts 10/04	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 9:11PM tmd5 wrote: Don't you just love ole George W. Bush? Our country has gone to shit thanks to this man. This is probably just the start of things to come. I honestly don't think there is much to worry about. As if they'd actually go after people that don't have the required info. I'll be amazed if they actually do. I run an adult site selling DVDs and I refuse to follow these rules, they can come after me if they want. I sell Japanese titles, how am I supposed to get the required information from companies? It's impossible! Click to expand Well thats the point, isn't it? The government knows the rules, as they stand, are nearly impossible to follow. The stated goal of "protecting our precious children" is the smokescreen to end all smokescreens. The gov't has perpetually failed on the obscenity front. So instead, screw the legitimate businesses, and in the process, screw the producers. If it weren't so horrifying and...I dare say UnAmerican...it would be brilliant. [Link]
Scott Kinney xxximports.com New Jersey 369 Posts 5/02	Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 9:13PM tmd5 wrote: ...I'll be amazed if they actually do. I run an adult site selling DVDs and I refuse to follow these rules, they can come after me if they want. I sell Japanese titles, how am I supposed to get the required information from companies? It's impossible! Click to expand 10 years x # of undocumented explicit images = pretty damn 'amazed' [Link]
yogib Member 175 Posts 11/04	Posted - Jun 26 2005 : 1:56PM GaySatyr wrote: ADE has already been hit hard by the DOJ once -- remember? ~ GaySatyr Click to expand When did this happen and why? [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jun 26 2005 : 2:34PM At the same time that Extreme Associates got nailed in Pennsilvania. If you do a search for Adult DVD Empire and Pennsilvania, it should bring up the discussions. [Link]

Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00	Posted - Jun 26 2005 : 2:44PM yogib wrote: When did this happen and why? Click to expand They were "unnamed" in the Extreme Associates indictment. I think that they were referred to as a "major distributor". They were never indicted for anything, but they quickly got rid of any titles that had any chance of getting them in trouble. DVD Empire is more than an adult DVD store. They are a large mainstream video store as well. It's just not worth it for them to take any chances. [Link]
Scott Kinney xxximports.com New Jersey 369 Posts 5/02	Posted - Jun 26 2005 : 3:54PM On the same subject, but a different retailer, what's up with Jaded Video? Assuming they are an FSC member, they've just bought time, not a pass from the new regulations. I can't imagine the scale of the effort they face in getting documents for all the titles they offer (and are still showing boxes for), the videos they stream and so on. Not to mention the data and physical storage issues they've got to solve. Yikes! [Link]
Drew Black broken crankshaft 8011 Posts 9/99	Posted - Jun 26 2005 : 6:06PM Please keep in mind that each of these retailers may have different lawyers with very different opinions. Some of these lawyers may or may not have been in the room when for the negotiations with the DOJ in the recent settlement. Any lawyer that's doing their job correctly is not legally allowed to advise their client to break the law. The stores that are displaying box covers most likely are doing so in direct conflict with any legal guidance they have have received. That said, the lawyers that were actually in the room doing the negotiations on behalf of the FSC know a whole shitload more about what's really going on. If a retailer is fortunate enough to have one of these guys on retainer then they may have information not available to other parties. At any rate, if you're just learning about the 2257 changes now what rock have you been living under? This is a HUGE deal and we've been ranting about it daily since May in the forum. [Link]
Scott Kinney xxximports.com New Jersey 369 Posts 5/02	Posted - Jun 26 2005 : 6:39PM Drew, sweetie, I already know a fair amount about the new USC 2257 rules, and have contributed to this thread in the past. My post about Jaded is two basic points: 1. The task of making a site with scope of Jaded's is truly monumental. How will they be able to cover it all? 2. I don't think the negotiations between DoJ and the FSC were such that people in the room felt that the new regulations were completely null and void, or, soon would be. So, what are they thinking with their current site? Regards, Scott K. [Link]
Drew Black broken crankshaft 8011 Posts 9/99	Posted - Jun 26 2005 : 7:17PM I'm not speaking about any retailers in particular and personally don't care what Jaded is doing. My response is not related to Jaded in any way and wasn't a direct response to your post. If it was I might have quoted the particular parts I was responding to. I am attempting to address the second guessing and comparing of various retailers that has been happening in a more general sense. It's pointless for us to make guesses as to why one store is doing one thing while another is approaching the new rules in a different fashion. I don't think the negotiations between DoJ and the FSC were such that people in the room felt that the new regulations were completely null and void, or, soon would be. Click to expand (Note that I left off the part specifically related to Jaded.) FWIW, I know of one or more retailers/studios that have retained one or more of the attorneys that were directly involved in the negotiations. These companies have insight into the details of the proceedings that others do not enjoy. They are implementing their 2257 compliance plans based on info they have received from their lawyers. You might think I'm full of shit but that's fine. I don't really care. I'm just trying to shed a smidgeon of light on the reason(s) why retailer X is going about things differently than retailer Y. [Link]
Ablaze Member 16 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jun 26 2005 : 7:33PM I understand why sites like ADE have to do this but it really demonstrates what a joke the rewrite of this law is. You can't even look at scan of a box cover of an adult dvd on an adult dvd purchase site, without the government up your ass? What bullshit. [Link]
Drew Black broken crankshaft 8011 Posts 9/99	Posted - Jun 26 2005 : 7:57PM Ablaze wrote: ... it really demonstrates what a joke the rewrite of this law is. Click to expand This might seem like sematics but it's a very important distinction. A law was not rewritten, an enforcement rule was rewritten. Laws are written by Congress. The rules for enforcing those laws are written by the DOJ. [Link]

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