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parker29
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tennessee
171 Posts
7/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 2:24AM
One of my favorite aspects of porn movies is when the girl is really into it, and I mean REALLY into it, and starts talking dirty. I love it when they say they are "close to cumming", and talk about how wet they are.
Taryn is awesome at this, and I believe she is telling the truth. Who else is convincing? Or moreover, who is really not just into it and says it, but is being honest?
I love it when the female talent says she is aroused and then you can actually see wetness, and I don't mean lube.
Like I said in an earlier post, I am going broke from ordering the flix from the stars that post here. But it so awesome to watch the stars with whom you have communicated.
Parker
(Oh yeah, this is my 50th post and my birthday.)
MASAMUNE
Senior Member

1452 Posts
12/04
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 2:41AM
i never really bought into Taryn's dirtytalk, nor do i buy into "dirtytalk specialists" like alicia rhodes.

to me, the best dirttalkers are the ones not even making a conscious effort to do it. ther are many more real performers out there who go under the radar. for example, off the top of my head, alektra blue, and alicia alighotti.... newcommer bambi is one to keep an eye out for too

parker29
Member

tennessee
171 Posts
7/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 2:48AM
....You mean you really don't believe that Taryn is sincere when she is talking dirty while getting fucked? You don't think she is genuinely aroused?
I wish you hadn't told me that....
Dammit!
Taryn? Response?
parker
TarynThomas
Senior Member

Taryn It Up
1013 Posts
2/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 3:12AM
Ok that is great and all if you don't like the dirty talking... But what really is there to buy into here. It really all depends on the viewer watching. Some like it and some don't. Quit frankly if you don't like my dirty talking or anyone else's don't watch our scenes plan and simple.

Pretty much this is how it is for me. I love to talk dirty and when the directors or male talent don't like the dirty talking or don't want it. I feel like a little kid in school being told to be quiet. It really sucks because I have sex on screen just as I would at home. Trying to have as many orgasms as possible. I also do my job for the pure fact that I love sex and have fun while doing it. Seriously what fun is sex with out the dirty talk???

XOXOX,

Taryn Thomas

parker29
Member

tennessee
171 Posts
7/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 3:37AM
That a baby Taryn....I knew you would come through for me girl. I don't have to buy into it because I knew you were real about it. Hell, for those of us that have gotten women off (It's rule one with me), I can tell you are fired up when you are getting nailed.
By the way, do you have any idea how many times we have fucked in the last few months? I would say at least 75 or more. And, just like in your movies, you are talking dirty to me the whole time. You always tell me how wet you are...and I appreciate it.
Okay, I am delusional. But anyone who says they are not that watches porn is a liar.
Talk dirty to me baby, anytime!!!!!
Parker
 
Pagoda
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Thread Killer
1747 Posts
10/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 4:07AM
I don't know if she's still active, but I always liked Lily Thai's dirty talk. She's the only one I can say that about, actually.
Cuddly Wombat
Senior Member

Just another bare bum in the shiower
1739 Posts
12/04
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 5:29AM
They really need to drum this into all girls from a young age - "I am woman hear me roar!"
Bic
Member

You cant see 'em, but her boobs are lovely.
182 Posts
11/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 5:35AM
Ah yes, she was real good at it. She should go into audio porn :)
palominorn
Member

I'M RICH BIATCH!
956 Posts
8/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 6:21AM
once again i assert that Raquel Devine ruled at the talking aspect - see some of her max movies!
picman
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Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 7:17AM
Kami Andrews is a great talker. Some of the shit that comes out of her mouth will have you rolling, though. I think she just gets into the sex and lets it go. A recent aural assault was in Take It Black 3. Jada Fire is another woman who gets into the moment verbally. I love Roxy Jezel's nasty woman/child verbiage. Check her out in Fully Loaded 2. And to add to the recent Courtney Cummz lovefest, her pillow talk with Slayer in Just Fuckin' 3 was good enough to propel him to three ejaculations.
gia jordan
Member

670 Posts
9/04
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 7:21AM
Ava Devine is even a bigger dirty talker than me.
saratoga120
Senior Member

1404 Posts
5/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 7:39AM
Talk is one of our greatest gifts as a species. It's also the most direct route to share the spontaneity of our passion in any given moment with our lover. I see Taryn appreciates this and I always give special preference to all the other women that do.

Gman
Member

144 Posts
7/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 12:33PM
Great dirty talk includes dirty Q&A
I think dirty talk is effective if it isn't just repetitive statements and declaratives from the girl. It's better when the girl asks questions to draw out her partner a little bit and because the viewer at home cannot help but answer the questions in their own mind. For example, when the star (i.e. Taryn Thomas) asks a nasty question before she does something like "would you like to put both of those nice cocks in me?" She also asks nasty questions during sex. After the guy(s) answer, she confirms that answer the guy gave indicating she accepts and likes what he likes too i.e. "Yeahhhh... you like fucking my ass...". Sometimes she offers a little tidbit after i.e. "let me spread my ass for that nice cock" or "ooooohhh those cocks feel so goood."

Genuine dirty talk includes silence and natural sounds
I think the talk loses effectiveness if there is constant state of hysteria screaming something over and over. If it is constant, then it becomes almost a dribble of undiscernable words. The power of dirty talk is when someone reveals something sexual inside of them with a statement, question, or confirmation. If the vocal pitch goes too loud or too high for any extended period of time then the emphasis loses meaning, or worse becoming annoying and a buzzkill. Some silence in between dirty talk is required to help the questions and comments stand alone and register. I've seen a few parts of Taryn's scenes where they go into this zone but she usually reels it back and re-establishes some pacing between fucking and dirty talk. Dillan Lauren has a few good scenes with good pacing as well. Sometimes a whisper is more attention getting and "louder" then high pitched yelling. If the voice goes anywhere near a loud high pitch whine like "oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah!" that's an instant buzzkill, FF, or kill the entire scene.

Different types of scenes, or group makeup fit call for different types of dirty talk
Quieter dirty talk goes well with POV type scenes. It's hot when the two partners are communicating directly with each other. For example, some POV directors do a nice job communicating positive comments during the bj

For group scenes, a more vocal style seems to fit. When there are two girls on one guy, it's a nice touch when one gal asks the other girl nasty questions or makes comments about how nice the other girl looks with a big cock in her mouth, how nice her ass looks, or confirms that she knows that what is happening feels good or looks good.

Some Actresses are better dirty talkers than others
Taryn's dirty talk along with her eye contact is awesome. Taryn is especially good at asking nasty questions.
Gia Jordan is a direct dirty talker.
Kami has a super-nasty mind and I think she gets off herself on saying the nastiest possible things. She's probably one of the most extreme dirty talkers, and sometimes its overwhelming to me but she's seems genuine. Ariana Jollee is also in the super-nasty category, sometimes a bit over the top for me. Roxy Jezel A+. Hillary Scott loves to egg on her partners and is a total on-screen slut. Audrey Hollander and Melissa Lauren are strong talkers quickly adding a Dominant edge to the scene. Alicia Rhodes sometimes goes a little over the top for me. Catalina has a sweet dirty talking style. Taylor Rain is not a big dirty talker, she's a straight ass fucker. Teagan is not a big dirty talker, some of her dirty talk in Taboo is repetitive (maybe the director). Ashley Blue is foul mouthed and edgy, almost at the psychotic level in Girlvert vids.

and some actors are better dirty talkers than others

Some actors do a great job with a dominant dirty talk such as Brandon. He doesn't scream or start into humiliation talk in an immature way. He picks the right time and then asks the question or makes the statement in his POV scenes. Max Hardcore uses lots of dominant talk but he leaves the girls looking like deer in headlights (no interplay, just his labeling of them...). Sometimes he asks a good question or two but Brandon seems to connect with his partner rather than just shit talk.

On the other end is Erik Everhard who is a fairly silent, grunting sportfucker rather than a dirty talker. His intensity comes from his energy.

Joey Silvera's movies sometimes have some nice dirty talk from the director. Jake Malone has a nice conversational dirty talk style, somewhat similar to Joey Silvera when he starts talking.

For the ultimate dirty talker director who is a true pervert at heart go with John Leslie in a movie like the Lecher. John Leslie is the smart experienced but truly perverted gentleman figure.

Rocco loves dirty talk but he is a bit repetitive "nassstty.... you are nassstyy girl... Are you a nassssty girl? Yes you are nasssssttty girl."

Girls next door better than pornofied strippers
There are plenty of actresses that are in the hysteric screamer category or fakey porn dirty talk where they seem to be saying a few phrases over and over that do not come from any place genuine inside of them. The "Oh yeah" actress leaves me with this stereotypical pornified stripper gone fake dirty talking porn actress for the $$$. I prefer the girl next door who transforms right before our eyes slowly from the pretty girl next door to nasty talker as the scene progresses and then ends the scene on a nice note. Some actresses seem to be spoon fed the dirty talk by the director and it just doesn't work. It is really stiff and stilted and boring. Directors should keep the dirty talk for the girl next door type who is a whore inside and likes it, otherwise just skip it.


Gman
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Gman
Member

144 Posts
7/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 12:35PM
Taryn Thomas is a great dirty talker
An earlier post said they didn't like Taryn Thomas' dirty talk (Masamune). I respectfully disagree.

She's doing a good job. Do I think she's always that vocal naturally? No. I'm sure she has quieter sex in her personal life. She seems to be experimenting with different levels / types of dirty talk over the span of her scenes.

Some of Taryn's scenes seem very close / similar. A range of different levels of dirty talk from Taryn would add variation to buying / watching a Taryn scene. I think Taryn needs to watch the vocal pitch and pace to avoid becoming a hyperactive pornified dirty talker.

I would like to say to Taryn: Keep up the good work; pace the dirty talk by pepper it with a mixture of questions, confirming you accept and like what the guys answers, saying what you like, and add moments of silence and natural sounds. In threesomes coax the other actors and actresses out with your dirty questions. Taryn you're the Beautiful Girl Next Door who is also a Dirty Talkin' Whore. Your eye contact during your dirty talk is great. You truly have great eyes. You look directly into the eyes of the other actors or into the camera. When you combine your dirty talk with direct eye contact, it conveys a sense of confidence, strength and being in the present. When the camera catches your eyes dead on your eyes reveal your intensity inside. Beautiful.

Gman
a dirty talkin' Taryn Fan

imak
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3345 Posts
2/04
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 1:54PM
holy shit picman thank you! i just read that
 
Bob All-Star Supporter
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5516 Posts
3/03
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 4:40PM
Good dirty talk is hotter for me than anything I can watch -- and I'm a really visual guy. It's all about a woman's expression of desire -- the biggest turn-on there is in a culture like our wherein the myth of female sexual indifference is drummed into most of us from a young age!

Taryn, I LOVE your dirty talk and I BELIEVE it. You rock!

gia, you're awesome!

Kami . . . off the charts!

My other favorite trash-talkers (in no particular order):

Lily Thai
Alexis Malone
Nicki Hunter
Katin
Venus
Missy Monroe
Julie Night
Katrina Kraven
Audrey Hollander
Hillary Scott
Ariana Jolie
Belladonna

From the "old" days:

Jeanna Fine
P.J. Sparxx
Bianca Seven
Ginger Lynn

Lost Horizon
Deactivated User

675 Posts
6/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 7:10PM
I like Cytherea as a talker: very believable, very erotic (in a natural and unforced way), and with an additional frisson from the fact that underneath it there sometimes seems to lurk a contemptuous sneer. Does it for me anyway.
Pagoda
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Thread Killer
1747 Posts
10/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 8:10PM
I love that Bella whispers her dirty talk. That makes it intimate and sexy.

For the guys, I like hearing Michael Stefano talk a new girl through a scene. He'll tell her what he's going to do before hand, ask her how it feels, etc. That's totally hot.

picman
Senior Member

Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 9:37PM
You're very welcome Kami. You know I love your scenes and overall attitude.
Other great talkers are Christie Lee and Tiffany Mynx. Christie always pushes the intensity and teeters between sweet innocence and being a nasty diva. I loved it when she told Shane Diesel: "I'm finished with you. You can cum now." Tiffany just knows how to get into a guy's head. Both of them. If you haven't seen her in Anal Romance 2, check it out and watch the mistress at work.
Walter All-Star Supporter
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1445 Posts
3/05
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 10:25PM
Many fine dirty talkin' hotties have been mentioned in this thread.

Anna Malle was a great dirty talker.
Jewel DeNyle was a great dirty talker too.

For some odd reason, a disproportionate number of great dirty talkers are from English speaking countries in Europe.
Angel Long, Isabel Ice, Alicia Rhodes, I'm sure others can name more.

picman
Senior Member

Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - Nov 23 2005 : 10:32PM
Ashley Long, Roxanne Hall and Nici Sterling could certainly use the Queen's English to devastating effect.
parker29
Member

tennessee
171 Posts
7/05
Posted - Nov 24 2005 : 2:07AM
I'll tell you someone else that I loved to hear talking dirty while taking it in the ass: Ebony Sinclaire.
Ebony was a black/euro anal queen that I thought was hot as hell. I wish she hadn't retired....god I would love to nail her.
I saw a scene once on an out-take movie where this geeky looking white cat was told by Ebony, "Fuck me in the ass with that white dick!"
The guy got it half way in, and popped in about two pumps. Ebony started laughing and said,"I better still get paid for my anal scene."
Anyone know where she is???
parker
Cuddly Wombat
Senior Member

Just another bare bum in the shiower
1739 Posts
12/04
Posted - Nov 24 2005 : 6:30AM
Has Taryn Thomas done a scene with Nick Manning yet? I can't stand watching that guy, but I would love to see him get some of his own medicine back. That would be a great scene to turn up the volume really loud during and watch your neighbours' reactions.
saratoga120
Senior Member

1404 Posts
5/05
Posted - Nov 24 2005 : 3:47PM
Gapin' Gators!

Just saw my first Ariana Jolie scene and it was a Jolie good one! It's from "Ass Fanatics" and in it she portrays a woman who gets off on taking a fat cock in ... you guessed it, her ass.

But what really got me, it really got me, was her hilariously hot monologue as she was getting ploughed silly in the ass and, alternately, in the pussy by Mark Davis.

It was intimate and poignant to listen to Miss Jollee do a running play-by-play on how it felt to be fucked in each hole. Eventually the action got too frantic (kind of like end-to-end hockey) for her to keep up the commentary. But while it lasted it was great.

Added bonus: I'll bet she looks better in lingerie than Marv Albert.

Edited by - saratoga120 on 11/24/2005 3:49:38 PM

Kamp
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369 Posts
8/03
Posted - Nov 24 2005 : 5:04PM
Chelsea Zinn
 
parker29
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tennessee
171 Posts
7/05
Posted - Nov 26 2005 : 2:47AM
Saratoga.....
I had almost forgotten abut the Marv Albert lingerie ordeal. As a morning radio dj, we had material for days because of that. We even had a contest for the person that dressed up in lingerie and looked like Marv and they won $1000.
I gotta go find those pics again of that.
parker



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