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Flash All-Star Supporter
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11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Sep 18 2007 : 5:39PM
I was excited when After Hours Cinema started releasing classics as they seem to be specializing in the same area that Alpha Blue Archives does. I recently picked up several releases and there are positive and very negative aspects to them. On the positive side, from what I have seen, their releases seem to be mastered from film masters instead of video tape masters as Alpha Blue Archives uses. Many of their masters are in better shape than ABA uses as well.
On the very negative side, several of their films are edited, which it doesn't state on the box and I feel they should especially given how some are edited. In-Flight Service on their Grindhouse Trash Collection Part 2 is an edited softcore print, which they knew. Each release comes with a booklet and in the booklet for this title they state 'Sadly, the present print of In-Flight Service is an edited "soft-core" version,'. Even worse is the version of The Fires Down Below on the same collection. As their booklet states 'That's right, folks - the final 20 minutes of The Fires Down Below are missing'. They released this title without the last reel. Not as bad is their release of Virgin Hostage on the Grindhouse Hostage Collection, which appears to have had the beginning removed. Which they knew as the booklet states 'The present print of Virgin Hostage seems to be missing a bit of introductory material,'.
I think that when edits like these exist, especially when an entire reel is missing, they should state it on the box or hold it until they can get the missing footage, even if they have to do a composite print like ABA did with Anyone But My Husband. I know I for one would prefer to have the complete film. That's part of the reason for watching feature films. They seem to blow off the missing reel for The Fires Down Below by stating in the booklet 'Look at it this way: if you haven't managed to stroke it off by now, you obviously didn't know how to use a porno movie in the first place.' However, missing the conclusion of the story and film upsets me as someone who enjoys classics and features and wants to know the rest of the story.
Another issue, probably less important to many viewers, most of the title cards are missing from the prints they are using. Whether they are cutting them off or whether the prints they are using had them removed, I don't know. Also they appear to have inserted stock footage into some releases, like several of the short films on the Sex in the Seventies Collection. The quality of the master for the exterior shots is in much better shape than the interior. Since these would have been on the same reel, I can't see why this would happen if AHC wasn't inserting the footage.
Also when they replace the missing title cards for their own, they may be making up some cast members on the ones that they include this information. For instance on Sex Nurse off the Dr. Christina of Sweden release the cast members listed are the ones from The Waterpeople another film from the same director (Emilio Portici). I'm not sure if the cast was the same or not, the only one I'm familiar with is Carol Connors (billed as Carol Robbins) and she is younger in this film than any I've seen her in so I'm having trouble identifying if she is in the film.
Which leads me into my last complaint. With several of the directors they appear to have a working relationship, like Nick Philips. Given the lack of credible information on many of the titles they are releasing, it would be nice if they worked with the directors to get as much info on the titles as available and added it into their booklets instead of just having a play by play description of the films in them. Who was in it, where it was filmed, stories about the making of the film, all of this would be of added interest, especially since they appear to have the resources to do so. The only release that I have that they attempt to do this with is Grindhouse Trash Collection Part 2 where they have a short piece by Charles Lamont on In-Flight Service in the booklet. I really wish they would try harder to obtain this information as the more time that goes by the greater the chance this information will be lost forever.
These are just my thoughts on the matter based on the Collections that I have picked up so far. I'd love to hear how other viewers have felt on what they have seen from them.
sdc
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236 Posts
4/03
Posted - Sep 19 2007 : 3:31PM
Thanks, Flash. I was also excited to see After Hours start releasing hardcore films but the situation you describe is ridiculous. Of course, they're not the only company to knowingly release this kind of film with footage missing, but I'd really hoped that someone entering the arena from the outside would have higher standards.
Yankey Doodel
Member

283 Posts
11/05
Posted - Sep 19 2007 : 7:06PM
I haven't seen any of these yet but I might be wary of them now. I'm also more concerned with getting the whole movie than just being able to watch some of the sex parts. In the case of The Fires Down Below I suppose on the one hand it's good that at least some of the movie is being made available if the case is that the entire thing is unobtainable, but I think an incomplete film really should be packaged as a bonus featurette or something and specified as being incomplete on the outside. I would be disappointed if I was watching it expecting to see the whole movie and it just ended abruptly part of the way through.
backdoorman
Senior Member

Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
2776 Posts
10/07
Posted - Oct 11 2007 : 9:36PM
I f%&*king hate censorship of any kind.
Wodgers
Member

414 Posts
7/04
Posted - Oct 12 2007 : 1:54PM
Thanks for the reviews.
I was willing to buy some AH dvds but now...
 
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Oct 12 2007 : 10:54PM
Their release of Forced Entry looks great though, much better print than ABA used and it contains a booklet with info from Shaun Costello.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Oct 13 2007 : 10:15PM
Backdoorman, I don't think it was a case of censorship, more just what print was available. After all, they've released an uncut version of Costello's Forced Entry, which is incredibly reckless or brave, depending on your viewpoint.
backdoorman
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Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
2776 Posts
10/07
Posted - Oct 13 2007 : 10:21PM
Thanks I wasn't necessarily referring to any specific movie just censorship in general. I really get pissed when I see a movie and can't see what the director intended. Who are these people who think they know better than I what I should be allowed to see, hear, think etc.......fuck'em !
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Oct 14 2007 : 12:57AM
I don't think it was censorship either, however, I still think that the buyer should be told about problems. There is a good chance I still purchase it, I'd just like to know the problems going into the purchase instead of finding out later.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Oct 16 2007 : 4:00AM
Has anyone seen their release of Joe Sarno's A TOUCH OF GENIE?
sdc
Member

236 Posts
4/03
Posted - Oct 16 2007 : 3:40PM
I haven't seen it but there's a review at Mondo Digital..
Sarno's films are a bit hit and miss with me so I think I'm going to pass on this one.
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Oct 24 2007 : 10:44PM
The Early Films of John Holmes appear to be complete and in decent shape. I expect they are cropped though as they are presented in the 1.78 aspect ratio.
Yankey Doodel
Member

283 Posts
11/05
Posted - Oct 26 2007 : 9:05AM
I was wondering about that one, thanks Flash. It's too bad if they're cropped, that's especially absurd when done to porn, but it looks worthwhile otherwise.
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Oct 26 2007 : 11:58AM
They are an odd collection of films, if you're interested in them I'd pick them up.



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