If I'm not mistaken the girl in the video is french actor Jessie Volt. When i first watched the video, i felt very offended but I'm more interested to hear what you guys will say about the video. Please watch and if u have any, write your comments Alexander DeVoe fights with french model PS: The description is taken from original video which belongs to Alexander Devoe himself
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Posted - Dec 23 2012 : 5:41AM
Ridiculous. The girl has to be comfortable with the BTS guy groping her, too? And he actually published this with the title of "stuck up bitch"? Obviously, something happened off camera that we aren't privy to, but this seems like a total dick move on the director's part.
I'm not sure what DeVoe is asking for. First he tells her to keep her "game face" on like she's supposed to be performing and then later he tells her to act like she's not aware the camera is there. Sounds like 2 different things. He also makes some comment about "Liza" and I suppose that's Liza del Sierra and how she and Jessie have some sort of problem. Probably some sort of cultural difference and he should ask perhaps Spiegler what the problem is rather than blaming the girls. He also complains about Spiegler girls having some problems with the touching. Jessie sounded like she didn't like being touched by the camera man. Don't know what he did, but maybe he got a little too personal. I'm under the impression Spiegler girls are pretty professional and know the proper behavior on set. Hard to say if DeVoe is justified. It would be nice if we got some clarification from someone more familiar with what happened. I do know posting this video with the title and summation makes me think DeVoe is a jerk.
I don't understand the "entertainment" rationale of some guy touching her. It sounds like bullshit. Seems to me that's just a guy taking advantage of her "keep your game face on" position because he can, not something done for the benefit of the audience.
This video doesn't show what happened beforehand to cause the problem. However, I posted a while back about being disturbed by Alexander Devoe and his creepy assistant appearing to abuse girls in the BTS of his videos. But my post didn't get any responses. They touch the girls and try to get them to give blow jobs or fuck some girls for free in the BTS. I don't know if that is what happened here but I've seen him do it before and piss some girls off or cause them to literally run away from him. Here's my original post. Alexander Devoe fans: Does Devoe Show = Rape Edited by - zambi on 12/25/2012 12:35:13 AM
^ Like I said it looks like they are trying to get some action for free. The girl is scheduled to perform a scene with a male performer and before they start the scene he tries to get some action for himself. Some of the girls will give it up to the director for free probably in order to get hired by them again, but the bigger names and more experienced girls will ask if they are getting paid extra to do him too. Casting couch in porn is nothing new I'm pretty sure it happens a lot. But Devoe has a lot of balls actually recording it and putting it in his BTS footage. I gotta give him credit for that. But other directors will just pay the girl to shoot a POV scene with them if they want to bang the girl on camera.
DeVoe is just trying to justify inappropriate behavior by his crew. There is ZERO reason for anyone (i.e. DeVoe, his crew, etc.) other than the male talent hired to do the scene to be touching the female talent! As others in this thread have pointed out - DeVoe and his crew apparently have a penchant for acting inappropriately on their sets.
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^ ^ Thank you Mark. I had my suspicions, but I didn't want to automatically condemn DeVoe without more information. Unfortunately there will always be the pond scum in the pristine lake. I'm glad Jessie stood up for herself and I'm sorry she had to endure this kind of garbage. I'm sure you instruct the girls about the hazards in the business.
Stagliano used to grope the girl's butt in the lead-in for almost every scene he shot. But DeVoe is not Stagliano and "Buttman" was part of the scene and storyline at that point. I would assume the things Stagliano did were no big deal *if* it was on the table when the shoot was booked who would be doing what. But a BTS guy is, by definition, not part of the scene. The stills photographer or the videographer might reasonably adjust some piece of clothing or move a body part to get a better shot, but never a BTS guy.
In BTS for Deep In Latin Cheeks 5, he follows Jazmyn Ryder into the bathroom after she finishes a scene with Ice Cold, and he starts aggressively groping her. She finally gets fed up and curses him out. In BTS for Dynamic Booty 5 (I think) he starts in after Nyomi Banxxx after her scene but she appears to know what's coming so she bolts and runs to get outta there. There are some others just checkout his movies distributed by Jules Jordan. In some movies the girls give it up and give him blow jobs or let him fuck them and they don't seem to care, but in some cases they are clearly not comfortable doing it or outright refuse. Even worse his creepy looking personal assistant with freckles all over on his face (i.e. Shawn Copafeel) sometimes joins in. I remember one time he was groping a black chick I think it was Codi Bryant and he pulls out his dick and sticks it in her and she was like what the fuck? Another time some latin chick I think it was Alexa Cruz let him fuck her before male talent arrived. She seemed kinda desperate for work so she let him do it. The scary thing is she let him fuck her bareback before her paid scene. So did he have a recent STD test? I wonder what the male talent would think knowing he got sloppy seconds after some untested clown. I'm surprised Devoe published all that footage but he probably thinks its funny or wants to show how these girls are just whores or maybe he gets off on it when they get mad? He's not as extreme as Max or Khan Tusion in abusing women but he has issues. He's also married to that tall chick who was on Ray J's VH1 show. I guess she doesn't care about him fucking his hired talent.
Edited by - zambi on 12/29/2012 4:32:43 PM
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Posted - Dec 29 2012 : 5:33PM
Rocco Siffredi frequently does individual "bonus scenes" with girls in his movies, even when he's not the talent in her scene. He almost always tries to get the girl to suck his dick or fuck him, and he's usually successful, lol. I've never felt like it was creepy or untoward in his movies though. I remember one where he actually fucked Lexi Belle for like ten minutes. It was hotter than her actual scene in the movie.
^ The difference is that the girls agreed or maybe it was staged, also Rocco much like Stagliano often interact with girls while filming even when he's not involved it's part of the plot, but most of all being a performer they knew for sure he's tested. To my knowledge there's no BTS with Rocco insulting or harassing the girls into unplanned sex Edited by - LCF on 12/30/2012 1:02:50 PM
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Posted - Dec 30 2012 : 11:12AM
Alexander Devoe only has 16 performer credits. She obviously is not talking about Devoe. You, Zambi, think like one.The Devoe Show is just standard, yet better, BTS. For each performer, it usually starts right after the scene with cum on the performers face. Almost all of it is based on discussion about the scene just finished and the performer's porn career. You are embellishing things and making things up. Niether Jazmyn nor Nyomi were upset, and both were quite pleased, about the totally professional BTS.
Edited by - bootymeister on 12/30/2012 11:15:36 AM
Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08
Posted - Dec 31 2012 : 12:30PM
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Actually, not merely whatever, when you use the word rape.
I have never seen anything even suggesting the possibility of it, in his BTS, or your posts.
Actually, there is no Alexander Devoe vs Jessie Volt, he is just not going to hire her again, just like all of the other directors she has worked with, who have no use for weak, passive performers.
Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08
Posted - Dec 31 2012 : 6:11PM
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Jessie Volt's performance was weak and passive in "Rico The Destroyer 3", "3somes", and "Down To Fuck 2".
In "Gape Lovers 7" and "Anal Buffet 7", Jessie Volt's performance was not just weak and passive, but merely decorative. Jessie Volt was hot in "Holiday Office Party" and "Evil Anal 16". I guess she likes Mick Blue and Manuel Ferrara.
@Bootymeister: So you are basically saying, any behavior towards a female performer is justified as long as she is "weak" (according to your standards, of course)?
Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08
Posted - Dec 31 2012 : 6:52PM
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I am clearly not saying that. If I said that, you would not have to ask, would you. Just quote whatever it is you are referring to. I said that weak and passive performers, like Jessie Volt, do not get hired back. I also said I am not aware of anything indicating that Devoe has mistreated any performer. You should stick to twitter.
There's a post of Shylock up there , stating that clearly some very wrong did happen. all the rest is venting of air either to save him or to attack him
Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08
Posted - Jan 2 2013 : 6:38AM
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Not true at all. Posts claiming not to know, like mine, do not save. Very wrong, is much more than just alleged inappropriate behavior. Clear, is much more than citing bullshit, anonymous, ADT fanboy posts. Whatever happened, happened over 18 months ago. Either talent works with him, or they do not. Either Spiegler sends talent Devoe's way, or he does not. That would have been an easy statement to make, instead we get the weazle statement.
Also, "very wrong" means that the alleged victim is not sitting around calmly listening to criticism after the alleged incident, as shown in the clip. Especially if she has confidence in her representation and in the industry at large.
Edited by - bootymeister on 1/2/2013 6:40:34 AM
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Posted - Jan 2 2013 : 6:43AM
I'm intrigued by this thread. But that post makes zero sense.
I make content for public consumption and with that comes the knowledge that people will formulate their own opinions about said content. Its the nature of the business. I appreciate all fans and non fans. My goal is to reach as many as possible. keep watching and ride with me to the next chapter......... The Sex Shooter Himself, Alexander DeVoe Edited by - AlexanderDeVoe on 5/14/2013 12:34:26 PM Edited by - AlexanderDeVoe on 5/14/2013 12:36:10 PM