I saw this "selling out" feeling on MrMarcus board too. I understand where it comes from but i think it's bullshit. Why should they lose money because some people can't handle her not fucking a black dude. I remember reading people saying we should boycott WSP because they used Alexis which was nuts. I want "black" companies to thrive so i said fuck it, I'm not going to buy it but go ahead and make that money.
To me that shit was false advertising, hell it u did not see the trailer and u bought the movie and saw that she was not doing IR u would of been pissed. I saw the trailer and after seeing it I said nope I am not buying this. I will buy a movie if it is not IR, I got Massive Asses that she is in and it was great but as time went on I was like damn she is not doing IR at all so I basically have not bought any thing else she has been in. The thing is Brianna Love looks like she is the one who would not do IR more that Alexis Texas, that is what makes Brianna even more hot to me.
I personally think its somewhat racist to hate a girl because she hasn't done IR. Maybe its a family thing. Theres a large amount of fathers who won't frown upon their daughters dating interracially. Maybe her parents support porn but not her with black men. Or maybe shes just not turned on by Black men? Why is it such a dealbreaker?
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Posted - Aug 18 2008 : 9:09PM
These are very insecure people, with huge anger issues.
I don't think it's "racist" but I do think some of the guys here dwell on it too much. I usually comment on the lame excuses some girls give for not doing it and how the logic doesn't hold up but for the most part it doesn't really bother me if a girl does IR or not. There are girls who don't do it and have given the lame excuses but it doesn't affect my viewing habits of their stuff. There are girls I'd like to see do IR but if they never do I have no problem with it.That line of thinking has been addressed many, many, many times in this forum. But I'm sure someone will take the time to address the faulty logic in those two question/statements.That's actually a good question. I could almost understand a black fan being bothered by it so much but for a white person to be upset by it to such a degree seems a bit odd to me. Some of those guys clearly have a fetish but some don't seem to realize it and come up with rationalizations to justify that fetish. Nothing wrong with having a fetish but it's strange hearing guys talk about holding the girls to some sort of moral code when it's really about their fetish not being met.
all i have to say is it is about damn time this girl does anal... i think it is a shame when hot girls with a big name opt out for it or ir! i think girls who do are pussies and like the easy work! not to take away from the fact i support a girl choosing her do's and dont's but cmon.... man up girls start using your asses and fucking the brothers there is HUGE fan baese there "im the girl your mother warned you about"
I can understand if u think white men are sexier that black men but to find all black men unattractive and say I would never have sex with one is bullshit to me. Me being black I find white women attractive equally as I find black women attractive, I can find good looking women in damn near every ethnic group. Because to me if u say I find this man or woman attractive but I will not have sex with them or is maybe because you heard several stereotypes about them and that is why you will not have sex with them.
I don't find black men any more attractive than white men. Mainly because well I'm a guy and I can't judge men mostly. I can tell if someone is ugly but that's about it. But I'm just saying I hate how IR has been made code word for ****ing black males. I don't think I remember seeing Alexis do any Asians or any other races. I also do not remember her having sex with overweight people or aged people. Which yes is different but still. Now yes if shes holding out on that line of work solely as a money issue thats wrong. She didn't want to do anal for the longest time. She ended up doing it. The only thing I agree 100% with is people who shouldn't be in a movie being in one just to sell them. Alexis was a HEAVY offender of this being in nearly every anal movie/website line. She's the only person on bigbuttslikeitbig that does not do anal.(brazzers that better change if she's doing regular anal get her back1) It is sneaky and unfair advertising to do this unless she is doing the act in question. And whats so special about her doing black men if the only reason why she would do them is for cash. And for a fair amount of Alexis' scenes (Atleast her early ones) shes mostly lifeless in them anyway. If she's gonna do IR she'll do it when shes ready and it'll be good. And hopefully she'll find a performer she'll have chemistry with and it'll be epic. There are however some performers where stuff like this is fairly ridiculous. Penny Flame... for instance. Though she did finally do a IR scene. To be a sexual wild free spirit with so many restrictions is well ridiculous and kind of ruins her for me. (Not completly because damn shes hot, funny and someone I'd like to spend some time with.)
And a good percent of the "interracial" porn out there is painfully racist. Sometimes unwatchably so. (*COUGH* BARBIE CUMMINGS) Alot of the time the "IR" porn uses the your parents don't want you doing black men storyline and would disown/punish etc.... Maybe in this case this lame storyline/stereotype is true. Shes allowing her body to be shown having sex on screen now anal sex. Apparently her parents are okay with this. And for the record I wouldn't have had nearly as much problem with Alexis not doing anal if she had not been in EVERY anal movie out there not doing anal. I don't mind if Alexis went IR. As long as it wasn't racist IR.But I also would like to see her doing regular joes.(midnight prowl for instance) But most of all I just want to see her in scenes that excite her. Which to be honest I haven't seen way too many of.
I don't hate them, I just feel better not watching them. I mean how can I enjoy watching a girl knowing the girl won't have sex with me simply based on the color of my skin?Yet her parents have no problem their daughter taking it up the ass???
^There's another very well-known porn star, who's also a frequent poster here on ADT, who says that she won't do IR even though she's really into black guys, because her family is racist. Maybe you believe her, maybe you don't, but that's her reason and I guess it could be true for other girls too. She even says that her family is okay with her doing black girls, just not black guys. Racists are weird, man. [edit: typo] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 8/19/2008 2:30:11 PM
If I had racist parents I would do exactly what they wouldn't want me to do simply to fuck with them for being racists. I mean come on by giving racist people their way you basicly agree with their views. There's nothing wrong with showing your parents they're wrong and what better way to do that that the sexual way :-)
Not everyone is that liberal. I know plain and simply that if I started making or acting in porn I'd never be able to talk to my family again. I personally see absolutely nothing wrong with the porn industry or the profession. But I could never turn on my family to do it. But I'm just gonna say this. If Alexis Texas found a black male who she loved, she would go out and marry him regardless of what her family thinks. Because love is one thing, having sex is another. All I've seen of her is her doing fit white men in their 20-30's.And to be perfectly honest I didn't even notice who she was fucking until this was brought up.
Well, I did say that maybe her reason is true, and maybe it isn't. But still, what you're claiming here is easy to say when you're not realistically considering the possibility that your parents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, etc. may never talk to you again. Even though they're racists, you might still really love them. They might be the only people you're close to. For a lot of people (like me), if you've moved around a lot throughout your life, you haven't had many friends for along time - but you always have your family. Unless you go fuck a black guy on camera, and then you've got nothing. There's stirring the pot and messing with your family to show them you're different, show them they're wrong, etc. Then there's cutting ties and guaranteeing that they'll never speak to you again. These are two very different things. (I'm not saying that any of this is true, or right, or whatever. I'm just trying to maybe see things from another person's perspective. My family isn't racist. But what would my life be like if they were? That's what I'm trying to think about here.) [edit: typo] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 8/19/2008 3:56:58 PM
I still dont get why dudes like to do their girls anal so much. SOme girls just find it uncomfortable. Because from experience, the pussy is much warmer thant he ass. the only difference is that the ass is tighter. But still its not the same as str8 sex(non-anal). I had a girl tell me that it was selfish of me to ask her for anal since I'd be the only one enjoying it. Since then i havent done any girl in the ass, I've played with they ass while fuckin them but never go fullout on em. So what's the big deal about wether a girl do anal or not??
Two things.... #1 I don't get the whole worrying about if Alexis or any girl is getting paid more for this or that. Why do you even care? If Alexis or any girl can get more money from any company or director because they're willing to pay more, I say more power to them. If EVIL ANGEL is willing to pay a girl more than say...STICKY VIDEO should the girl tell EVIL ANGEL they refuse to take the pay difference they're offering? If a director wants a girl to do a scene with a guy she's not crazy about working with but the director keeps offering her more money until she says "yes" why is that such a bad thing? I know many of you like to think that means the sex will be bad but it really doesn't. It's just so silly. Do you think you somehow enjoy a scene more if you think the girls was paid a certain amount? #2 If Alexis is appearing in "anal" movies without doing anal then blame the company or director not her. I'm sure everyone knows that Alexis didn't do anal (at that point). It's not like it was a secret or she said she was going to do it and backed out. They wanted her to be in the movie and knew full well she wouldn't be doing anal. It's not like Alexis had some sort of sinister plan to dupe people into buying a movie to see her do something she wasn't doing.
well i just think in some cases girls opt out of anal and ir because they are lazy and want the easy work... boy/girl and every combo of it gets old after a while for alot of people.... i have to say before porn the only time i enjoyed anal was wheni was drunk and hell and it relived the pain... but if it wasnt for porn i would have never kept up trying it and learning how to do it safely and healthily now at home with my man every so often i ay hey put it in my ass and he does and i get off! and it is amazing! he isnt much of an anal guy he prefers pussy to anal like alot of guys you speak of but he also finds it incredibly hot that i can get off from it and he can feel it... as for alexis and any other big names girls who are sticking to the same ole run of the mill boy girls i think they have every right to decide what they will or wont do how ever i also think they are pussies for not even being openminded enough to try it.... "im the girl your mother warned you about"
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Aug 20 2008 : 5:15AM
Are you seriously suggesting that white girls didn't have big butts in the past? Maybe they didn't get shown in porn, or weren't shot to focus on them, but... OT, isn't Alexis Texas the girlfriend of Mr. Pete? He did loads of IR, if she was racist I don't think they'd be a couple.
There are too many great girls who do IR do be worried about Alexis. She has an great ass, but she's not that great of a performer IMO, and there are a lot better girls that do IR anyways.......
Trust me, if a white girl had a big butt back in the day(before hip hop and J.LO), they'd try anything to get rid of it. Form workout, to starving theyself to liposuction. I know what im talking about.
Wow, you guys scare me...what or who a girl does and in what time is HER choice!!! You can't be happy with the fact that she's doing it at all??? You have to say things like "it's about damn time this girl did anal" who the f are you to be annoyed that she "took so long" in your opinion to take a cock up her ass????? It IS still HER ass ya know!!!! Just because a girl does porn doesn't mean she's just a money grubbing pig who lost any and all morality lines or personal distates etc. As for you, Redrum69, you are WAY OUTA LINE on all the racists accusations!! Whatever her reasons and bounderies, she's entitled to them...it's her body and her life and SHE must decide as every woman does porn stars or not, what is comfortable for them and how far they want to push themselves and what they can live with. Alexis is an awesome woman who hangs out with tons of black people, she is NOT racist at all!!!! Also, to say, Redrum 69 that "all girls with big booty's love black guys" is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. What you meant was all black guys love girls with big bootys but it's not a given that the girl feels the same, Jeez!!! Not only are you ignorant in the way you "type dis shit out" but your thought process is retarded, dude!!! Not cool, not cool AT ALL! I'm sick of you guys thinking you own these women...just be happy they're willing to do this for YOUR pleasure at all and leave them alone!!! GOD!!!!
Also, you guys are clueless...girls get MORE MONEY for IR so it's not that "there's no money in ir" before you make stupid statememts, do the research!
I know right, thats like a hooker trying to school me on morals. ironic, aint it? @kristilove I didnt mean to offend you, and my comments weren't racist. I was talking from what i've seen and experienced. It aint like i was shootin sht out of my mouth without thinking. YOu should go back and see all my comments on this thread to see where i was comin from and what i said.
With all due respect Kristie, while I disagree with as many of the things posted by others so far in this thread as I agree with, I think that if you go back and read the posts, you'll see that what many of the posters are saying is that many girls make the claim that there is less money in IR, and that's why they don't do it. Which is true. Many porn girls, when asked why they won't do IR, do say things like this. They say that it will alienate their fan base. Many of the people posting here do not believe this to be the case. That's what they're mostly arguing against. But there is some truth to the claim made by these porn girls. How much truth is something that is up for debate, of course. As mentioned here in this thread, there are many very popular porn girls who have always done IR, and it doesn't seem to have hurt them at all. At the same time, it has been stated by industry insiders here at ADT that, for example, the cable companies will not purchase flicks with IR scenes in them. That's why the bigger companies, who depend on selling softcore versions of their movies, rarely film scenes with a black male in them. In fact, as you mentioned yourself, "girls get MORE MONEY for IR", which only serves to point to the inherent racial prejudice/discrimination going on in the industry. Why would girls get paid more for IR? It's not because the cocks are bigger, because there are white performers with cocks bigger than many black performers, and the girls will not get paid more for being with those white guys. So it must be some other reason. What could that reason be? (Hint: I know what the reason is... but do you?) So there is indeed some kind of issue about non-black girls fucking black men on camera. In fact, if you look at IAFD (or any other porn database or store on the internet), scenes with Latina girls and white guys are not listed as IR, scenes with Asian girls and white men are not listed as IR, scenes with Asian women and Latino guys are not listed as IR, scenes with Native American women and white or Latino guys are not listed as IR, etc. Scenes with black women and non-black men are, however, listed as IR. IR means a black performer with a non-black performer, and everyone just takes that at face value. So when anyone says that none of this has to do with race, or even singling out a particular race, I have to call bullshit. Oh, and one more thing: you kept referring to redrum 69. he's redrum305. I'm killbillvol69. By what you actually said, and the posts you quoted, I assume you were referring to him, and not me, but I just wanted to make sure you knew that we're two different posters.
Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07
Posted - Aug 20 2008 : 6:15PM
Wanna know when racism will quit being a problem in this country? When people stop being called "black" "red" "white" or "yellow" or anything in between and are then just people. Who gives a shit if someone does or doesn't do IR. It's their fucking decision and no one has a right to question it. It's called freedom.
^Your Utopian thoughts are all well and good but they don't jive with the realities of the porn industry. If it doesn't matter who a girl fucks, then why are white girls paid more to fuck black guys than white or Latino guys? If we stopped calling people "black" and "white" then how would the directors know when they have to pay the girls more? Things to think about...
I apologize, Killbill69, I DID mean redrum305...having said that... Such typical responses "getting a morality lesson from a hooker" hardee har har...Man, I'm so sick of you guys thinking that because for whatever reasons a girl does porn it must mean she has absolutely no morals or boundries or lines she may or may not cross...who are you guys to judge, you sit and buy this shit & jack off to it, so should I presume you have no morals or ethics at all??? Or because you have a penis is it different??? Or is it the money that makes it soo different, it shouldn't. THATS what's wrong with this country...that in this day and age of so called liberation and sexual freedom that women who are omg-sexually free are all a-moral whores. Yes they do this for the money but there wouldn't be money if there wasn't such a demand from sweet guys like you all! Supply and demand baby!!! The judgements and statements made by men about the women in this business are as barbaric as any racist remarks! I happen to know Alexis and many of these girls and so while I'm not speaking FOR them, I am speaking for women in this industry as a whole. (by the way, thanks, Ramsey for letting them know I'm not just talking out my butt!) I'm just saying, these girls don't make up what costs more or whats considered more hard core. So maybe the industry is racist, I'll give ya that but don't accuse the girls. Redrum you were specifically making statements regarding Alexis that are unfounded and not true to my knowledge so to say you were generalizing is not true. Try to realize these are WOMEN with feelings and souls...not just things for you to freely judge.
Kristi, i wasn't being racist. I was just pissed that i was talking about things i know and experienced yet i had people teling otherwise. Go back on the first page to read what i said about Alexis T. and the whole IR thing. I also said that Girls not doing IR because the downsouth fanbase might not like it and that is real. Companies have said that they had receive complaints from them before about doing too much IR scenes in their movies. Although i think you find less these cases in the north but racism in the south is very real and companies aren't about to lose money. Maybe my hooker comment was a poor choice of words, i'll admit that. It wasn't anything related to porn or anything, it was just to point an Irony. nothing more,nothing less.
Without quoting the whole retort... isn't that the point that the ethnic pool for male talent is stilted? Yet, not being with a black talent, who are prolific, the female talent is repudiated. Is it a question of the fan's sense of equality, condemning the girl for being prejudice? Or is it more that the fan likes, in his or her own secret way, big black dicks. Everyone has sexual preferences, and the female talent should not be put down (and I'm not saying that's exactly what this is) for who they choose to work with. I'm sure we're trying to keep this on a level that's about preferences in what we enjoy as consumers, not to point fingers. Which leads me to assert my esteem for Alexis as an amazing performer, who is still not two years in the biz I believe. Granted, she isn't Bobbi Star or Annette Schwartz... but hey, those are unique talents that are able to push the envelope without making it look forced or creepy. Sometimes I like a beautiful girl just fucking in a way I could relate to in my personal life. Alexis Texas has beauty to spare, and the ass is the icing on the cake.
I get what you are saying Kristie but one thing women need to know about most men is that once you do porn and you are actively do it, most men are going to consider you a whore period! Men love when women are sluts in the bedroom but once you go public with that sluttiness(I not sure if that's a word) it's a wrap for most men. That is why you never see regular Jo's dating porn stars and if you do the shit don't last that long because the man can't handle his woman being a slut in public. This is even the case with male porn stars dating female porn stars, they even end up not being able to handle it. The females that have been in the business for a long time knows that this comes with the territory, they accept for what it is. So at the end of the day you can be intelligent, you can have morals and you can be the nicest person in the world but as long as you doing porn you a ho to me!
I'm a black guy who is cool with a girl waiting to do anal and IR. These girls should always try to establish leverage, and delaying any of the taboos is a good way to achieve that. But eventually I tend to lose interest in them if they don't go in that direction. Look at someone like Julie Ann- beautiful, mature looking woman. But not exactly Annabelle Schwartz in the performance department. She started doing IR a few months ago, and I find her more interesting now. If absolute stunners like April, Janine Lindenmulder, hell...Monica Freakin Sweetheart and countless others do IR, I don't have a lot of patience for others. It's 2008 for goodness sakes. One of the best looking women in the entire world is in an IR marriage. It's a free country, and women are welcome to make their own decisions. But if your doing guys on film, gangbangs, money shots, etc; I think it's a little bizarre to take a stand on IR.
Alexis Texas @ Adult Empire
Posted - Aug 17 2008 : 6:55PM
