Rosco Fuji & Capt Jack, How was breakfast with Alina? I'm one of her biggest fans and was very sad when she decided to stop doing porn. Do you know if she is thinking about coming back at all? She could have been the next biggest Asian star since Asa. Even if she only shot scenes she enjoyed doing whatever the limits may or may not be, she has a huge fan base that is still following her in the hopes she returns in any manner to porn. There are many other asian stars out there, but none of them are even close to what Alina was in her brief time not to mention all the potential she still has. Hopefully she is realizing she can be happy doing porn, more so than any normal job. I hate to see someone so special and rare not take advantage of the wonderful career she has an opportunity to have, just to be a normal slave in life with a 9 to 5 like the rest of us. Anyhow hope you both are able to get her at least thinking about a come back ... all of us are still following her social accounts hoping she comes back. Love the sexy pictures she post, but miss seeing sexy new scenes of her. Although porn revenue is down ... people will pay for Alina porn and she could be self made like Asa. Thanks for your time.
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 10:06AM
It was nice. The girl can put away the food. Other then some general porn talk for about 5 minutes, we had a philosophical chat on life, love, and the fate of the world. Don't get your hopes up on a return though, she jokingly told us, "she was young, dumb, and full of cum!" Capt Jack and myself both almost fell off our chairs laughing when she said that.
[/quote] I hate to see someone so special and rare not take advantage of the wonderful career she has an opportunity to have, just to be a normal slave in life with a 9 to 5 like the rest of us [/quote] I doubt alina has the normal 9-5 job. There is a documentary out there that describes how hard it is for pornstars to find regular careers in the job market. Once a legitimate firm does a background check and find out he/she did porn you probably won't get hired. I believe abella Anderson quit due to this new insight that this porn documentary brought. For alina I believe that she draws income by doing some light modeling. Also I heard she has a boyfriend and he probably supports her financially.
^ The only background checks that have been run on me for employment concern criminal record. None of the people featured in AFTER PORN ENDS, which I assume you are referring to, mentioned background checks in their stories of being outed.
Good point. But im making the connection on the reason why people from porn could potentially get outed, it could be background checks. Also it depends on the employer who hires you. For example if you are applying for a waitress position I doubt a detailed background check would be administered by the employer. However if you start applying for more lucrative jobs, for example a job at one of the big 4 accounting firms, you better believe that they do their due diligence on background checks.
^ Right. But we were talking about "normal 9-5 jobs." I am simply saying that sex workers routinely find "regular," mundane jobs. Porn stars no doubt have a harder time, especially if they're recognizable. Still, there is undoubtedly stigma sex workers must face--I wish there wasn't. Imagine if the same stigma was leveled at those that *watch* the porn these women are supposedly so awful for performing in...
Thanks for the reply and info. Glad you had a good time meeting with her. I only said a regular job because she often refers to wanting to have a "normal" job and life. :) I agree she was probably young and dumb, but I am sure she has learned a lot from it and smarter about the business now. She should learn from Asa and only do what she wants to do and call the shots. The demand for her is huge and she could get away with it. Shit, start up your own company ... I'm sure she could get the backing for it. To me it's like Michael Jordan saying, eh I don't really want to play basketball, lets see how baseball goes. When you are such a stand out and can be one of the best, if not the best of all time, she should recognize it and own it, not throw it away. Everyone follows her now from her porn, not because we are 15 and want to see cute pg models. There are many women who wish they could be half of who she can in porn, and at the same time she's like eh don't really want it. If she left due to slut shaming from friends or people she knows, hopefully as she gets a little older she will realize that's all just bs. She can have a huge porn career, make tons of money, which in turn would allow her to do or go after almost anything in life she wants to do. I know its not likley, but i hope just like M.J. she realizes what she has and is and comes back to own it. None of her friends or the people she is around or any of the asian stars out there could be what she can. There is only one Asa ... and there is only one Alina. Be an average normal model or be the biggest star ever .... doesnt seem like a hard choice. She will never get away from her porn in the future, way to much stuff out and way to big of a following for that to ever happen. Thanks again ...
I hate to see someone so special and rare not take advantage of the wonderful career she has an opportunity to have, just to be a normal slave in life with a 9 to 5 like the rest of us
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I doubt alina has the normal 9-5 job. There is a documentary out there that describes how hard it is for pornstars to find regular careers in the job market. Once a legitimate firm does a background check and find out he/she did porn you probably won't get hired. I believe abella Anderson quit due to this new insight that this porn documentary brought. For alina I believe that she draws income by doing some light modeling. Also I heard she has a boyfriend and he probably supports her financially.
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the boyfriend in question i believe is the one whos been discussed in a couple of posts in this thread,the DJ who didnt want her in the business anymore(and the main reason she left it in the first place)
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 6:50PM
I guess if there wasn't that stigma, you'd see a lot more attractive women doing it. Which would probably lower the value and wage for the ones who do take the plunge. If a girl is above average looking (8 or 9), will just do vanilla B/G and is willing to shoot regularly, she can easily make five figures a month. That's a lot of money. Especially for a younger woman naming her hours who often doesn't have a deep or useful educational background. I have to believe the financial freedom makes the stigma worth it for the ones who stay with it. Just have to manage their money wisely for when the work dries up. Gainful employment or settling down with a normal guy who makes great money are probably not easy things to come by. I can't think of any successful friend of mine who would seek a stable relationship with a woman if he found out she did a porn video.
I think the Kink.com shoot was the reason she retired!!! at the time she tweeted out that the people at Kink.com told her exactly what they were going to do in the shoot, but, she was overwhelmed by it while it was happening...
^combination of reasons. The first being that she was doing alot of scenes that began to burn her out. Scenes that I believe she didn't really enjoy all the time. I believe there was a scene where she was told to rim some guy but you can tell she didn't want to do it. She did it though reluctantly. Then the kink scene was the straw that broke the camel's back. And then probably her DJ bf was hovering around which also forced her out of porn Edited by - Samdaman on 1/31/2016 10:06:15 PM Edited by - Samdaman on 1/31/2016 10:07:12 PM
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Zy28 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 10 2016 : 3:03AM
Well in news that may clarify the situation. She apparently has a real twitter account where she posts regularly. And after checking it, it appears clear why she dropped out. On it she posts about how amazing her looks are, how ugly other people are, how drunk she gets, the drugs she gets into in LA, how much money guys give her, how much she travels, etc... Suffice it to say she has an immature personality which isn't surprising since she's in her early 20's and has depended on her looks most of her life. Also it's clear that aging is going to be a rough experience.
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Posted - Feb 10 2016 : 6:09AM
From my perspective, a couple of the pictures I saw of her without make up was sort of rough as well. Can't stand women who buy their own hype about their appearance like that. You see it very prevalent in porn. For obvious reasons.
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Posted - Feb 10 2016 : 1:58PM
whats her twitter? i'd like to read what she said. it a shame she wont be coming back :(
why? Most porn girls get serious make up when they do a shoot...... I don't think they should get trashed for having acne or an average face when they are not subject to a professional makeup artist. Girls who party hard can often have it show in their face when there is no make up. This should not be used as a point of scorn or shaming and I think that is what you are trying to do. She had her fun and is out of shooting sex on film. All this hand wringing over the reasons makes no sense. It really is none of our business why anyone decides to stop making porn.
^i know women from porn wear makeup, that's nothing new. Regular women wear it too. I'm just curious to see her without make up, I never seen her without it. I'm not going to criticise it if it's bad, and it may not be bad at all.
You're advocating for retaining sex work stigma and slut-shaming because you think women benefit from it? Wow. You clearly have no conception of what women and/or sex workers endure.
"I have to believe the financial freedom makes the stigma worth it." This is neither saying what things are, nor saying what things should be. It's simply you stating an opinion rooted in ignorance and short-sightedness.
^ His opinion is ignorant, but sadly I'd have to say its true. In America we're completely fine with gore and all sorts of crap, but show a nipple and the world is ending apparently. Tiffany Six was someone whose professional life was torpedoed after her adult career was discovered, but thats not even the worse of it. I remember recently reading about a teacher losing her job simply because a student stole her phone and posted private nude pictures she took of herself. I'd say the country has less of a stigma, but more of this remnant of repressing all things sexual thats a leftover from the 60s or something whenever it comes to certain areas like school, children, or religion. No denying its there though, nonsensical as it is. Edited by - amazlied on 3/18/2016 8:19:07 PM
No. You are misinterpreting his statement. He's surmising the performer is choosing the financial freedom the career affords despite the stigma; presuming that people make logical choices. Context.
^ No, thats not all of what hes doing. Hes also bluntly perpetuating the 'stigma' as a given fact, and thats what miffed the other guy and mostly what I'm responding to.
I am responding to Gore Gore girl. She's misinterpreting that he's advocating that the stigma should continue to exist because "the financial freedom makes the stigma worth it". No, he's not. He's surmising that the financial rewards are greater than the cost of the stigma to the person.
^ I guess you could read it that way. In the context of a reply to my initial post, it sounds like a dismissal of concern over stigma. But sure, I can see how he meant it as an assessment of those who do the work currently and weigh their options. Apologies if I misconstrued.
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 19 2016 : 11:18PM
Just out of curiosity, what financial freedom? Maybe 1 out of a 1000 performers, if that, are going to leave the business with any sort of cash in hand.
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Posted - Mar 21 2016 : 10:19AM
^&^^ Instead of just throwing out random comments, do you guys ever read what actual people in the industry write? Just a point of note, she's actually not escorting, so no one is buying her cars or jewelry. And; having a pile of necklaces, bracelets, designer shoes, purses, sunglasses doesn't pay the rent. Girls in this line of work 99.99999% of the time are spending the cash as soon as it comes in. Yeah, some might save it, but that's the exception rather than the rule. Edited by - rosco fuji on 3/21/2016 10:20:30 AM
^^ In fairness to Rosco, I assumed he was just talking out of his ass not disclosing any actual information.
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Posted - Mar 21 2016 : 2:58PM
Generally speaking; women can maintain a great lifestyle receiving gifts and not have sex with the giver. A person can be a friend/companion without the escorting/sex part. Just keep that in mind when generalizing that women only get cars and jewelry if sex is involved. There are a lot of well off men out there with their own values; that like to party with a beautiful woman and take good care of her; yet do not cross the line to break what they feel are their marriage vows. There is a whole culture out there of female companions that are well compensated for a beautiful night at dinner or a show, and no sex is involved. I know that may sound shocking as it is not talked about; however, it is more common than you think. There are men that want to be around other women but do not want to cross the sexual boundary out of their own feelings about their marriages. So, they bridge the gap by having a beautiful women on their arm for an evening, and don't have to mess with any guilt of having sex without their wife. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 3/21/2016 2:59:50 PM Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 3/21/2016 3:00:09 PM
^^1. There aren't a whole lot of wealthy men in the world. I'm talking men with enough wealth to be able to discretely support another person who is not a relative. To have that kind of wealth is extremely rare. Extremely. 2. As rare as it might be for someone to have enough wealth to discretely support someone else who is not a relative, it's even rarer to find someone who's willing to do it. 3. And as rare as it is to find someone with considerable wealth who is able and willing to support another person who is not related, I doubt they'd do it without getting sex, unless the guy is incapable of having sex. I married into a wealthy family, and I am around wealthy people a lot in personal as well as professional capacities. Very few wealthy people are stupid enough to let people take advantage of them so easily, or they wouldn't be wealthy. Any guy spending a lot of money on a woman who's not his wife, and not getting anything in return...men have a word for other men like this - we call them "suckers". "I'm going to spend thousands of dollars on you and take you out as my date to fancy parties and exclusive restaurants. But I will not have sex with you because I don't want to violate my marriage vows." To me, this sounds so ridiculous and unlikely, it's almost laughable. If some dude is willing to be out in public with an attractive lady on his arm (who's not his wife), his marriage, for all intents and purposes, is already severely damaged. Everyone, including his wife, is going to assume he's having sex with the mistress anyway.
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 22 2016 : 12:20AM
What did I disclose?
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Posted - Mar 22 2016 : 12:46AM
Point of note, I'm always very well informed on everything I post here, I'm just very discrete and maintain the confidences of my circle of associates. If I'm not, I'll indicate that I'm not by a preference of saying "I'm speculating" or something like that. The problem here is that I've been in the entertainment field for close to 20 years in various capacities so I have a view looking down from the top as a provider versus someone looking up from the bottom as strictly a consumer. I see what it takes to make the finished product versus someone just looking at the finished product. Just today I spent the afternoon with a performer discussing the problems she's facing producing content, among other things.
There are millions and millions of men in the USA that make 250,000 or more per year and could afford 5 grand for a weekend out with a companion. I read your whole post, and honestly, you have no idea. That's ok..... but you really should not speak like you are some authority on things you are not involved with. And I find it funny that you think the only "thing in return" has to be sex...... very narrow thinking. But again, maybe you don't run in this circles. You can think what you like, you really can. I know a lot of business men who do things that way (companions with porn girls and strippers without sexual contact), and they aren't suckers. They do dinner, hit some clubs, etc. They like to let loose for a weekend in Vegas (or whatever city) with their associates and not have to worry about exposing their wives to anything (STI, lying, guilt, you name it). You can call me a liar all you want; however, there are plenty of men that like it that way. My point is, there are plenty of girls who can leave porn and still have a lavish lifestyle without having to have sex with random guys in hotel rooms. It is out there. A close friend of mine has been to many gatherings of business associates and they have brought a few ex porn girls just to join them for the evening. The girls get paid well, everyone has a good time, and the married guys don't have sex. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 3/22/2016 1:05:32 AM
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