Mine: 1) Prinzzess 2) Malena Morgan 3) Celeste Star 4) Jenna Sativa Honorable Mentions Serena Blair Venessa Veracruz Geogia Jones Sammie Rhodes Samantha Ryan Sinn Sage
I was thinking about Darcie Dolce but She's got some crazy allegations against her and her husband and 2) She isn't that great with newcomers.
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Posted - Jul 3 2021 : 3:39AM
Darcie Dolce is also terrible with all girls. She also puts herself through the trauma of having sex with women when she can barely stand it. It's sad and unfortunate, frankly. Her performances were weird and off-putting long before someone told on her and her husband..
Ehh, threesome squirt scenes don't bode well for this site being better than what is already out there, but I guess we will see.
^ yeah, and the sad thing is it shows. With how many scenes she had coming out soon for adulttime I wonder if there's nobody else left to do the fauxcest stuff.
Furthermore, it's great sweetheart video continues to release stuff, but I much preferred what Ricky Greenwood had to offer, than what Mike's producing for them.
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Posted - Jul 10 2021 : 2:07AM
Yep. You can tell. But at least on GFF Silvia is extra popular for whatever reason, so no surprise she is everywhere.
^Yes among hardcore G/G fans authenticity is key. Because there is a big difference in the quality of scenes when both women involved are actually into women.
But then things get muddy because some believe no women in porn actually enjoy themselves and are all faking it, or some women may actually like women but have no to little experience, and some may only have Lesbian experience from working in porn.
It's funny, because I think Silvia does more G/G than B/G. It would be interesting if she still would claim that she's gay for pay.
^ Gotcha, I understand now, everything you mentioned makes sense, and one thing that people will pick up on is authenticity. Thats something you cant hide.
^^ Silvia said on her podcast that when she first start doing G/G she wasnt really into women but the more she kept doing G/G and seeing how beautiful the women in the industry are she has gotten more and more into women.
For me though I do feel like there is a certain level of women being into women. Even if a woman isnt even into women in general, its hard to believe that same woman dont have chemistry with certain women in the industry that they are close too. Great chemistry makes for great scenes. Now women who are into women in general, they will find things that turns them on with anyone they work with. Plus they hate it when they do work with other women who arent into women. Thats why so many women who are truly into women speak badly about Darcie. They know she is truly not into women and doesnt really even try.
I cant speak for those who think every girl is faking period. Thats just a silly thought because I know for certain every girl doesnt fake in their scenes. You can say they fake most of the time due to certain circumstances but every girl doesnt fake all the time. Maybe some girls do and some are just great at making look real but again Im certain that most girls dont fake all the time. Then when I think of like onlyfans where its more personal Im even more sure they arent faking. I know its not G/G but I saw Abigail in a live make herself cum with a vibrator on her clit and a toy in her butt and you can literally see her pussy contract a few times as she was having an orgasm and then she ran to the bathroom because she thought she had to pee. That was real. Then she always show the strings of cum from her pussy afterwards.
Speaking of such, I wish I could see more of that in scenes for mainstream where I see close up of girls pussy contracting as they are having orgasms. I think that was the hottest thing Abigail ever done and she has alot of hot stuff she has done just from G/G alone. I hear all the time about the hot stuff she has done B/G too. But that live show I just mention was the hottest.
^ Every time a girl tweets something like that I automatically think they mustve shot something with another girl who just really wasnt down to hook up with girls. As for Jenna herself, yes she does B/G but I think she is more G/G than B/G which is fine with me that she does B/G.
Its extremely rare for a girl to be only one thing these days. Even if we look into trans we see them doing trans/f trans/m trans/trans trans who normally top will now bottom and vice versa. So I think long go the days where we mainly will see a true G/G only performer. They might start off that way but eventually will shift towards B/G even if its for onlyfans because they know where the money is which I cant blame them at all.
^ That's so true I know real GG fans will be upset when the see a GG lifer do BG, but It is there decision at the end of the day whether its for money or not. Cant dictate what someone else does and if your a fan of the preformers, you would support them in whatever the venture into next.
^ For example one of my all time favorite preformers is Serena Blair. Now did I have a stroke when I've been watching her scenes for years then stumbled upon her kink content early in her career. Yes😂😂😂 But she is an amazing GG preformer regardless, so that never changed my perception of her and how talented and amazing she is at what she does. I just had to put my mind back together after that🤣🤣
^^Respectfully disagree. Maybe it's just me, but I'm not interested in B/G so when a long-time performer I like does B/G, I'm still not interested nor supportive of it, especially if their G/G output drops significantly.
And I have to wonder if it's really worth tarnishing their G/G legacy to just do a couple of B/G scenes and then disappear altogether.
Anyways, like mentioned, Jenna isn't the only girl who has expressed dislike working with Gay 4 Pay girls. I mean if a girl isn't into women, she can just take G/G of her card, although that's rare. Otherwise all the other performers can do is put them on their "no" lists.
I think support can be looked at in many different ways. You can support a performer doing B/G without watching their B/G scenes. Ive been on the record to say I cant watch Kenna doing B/G but that wont stop me from supporting her decision to do so. For example, even when I hear that for onlyfans Charlotte Stokley and Kenna did a threesome with Will Pounder (Charlotte's boyfriend) I said her was a lucky guy and it sounds hot. Now Ill never check it out if its released to their onlyfans but I do think positively of it. Heck I wish I was Will in that situation being able to be with Charlotte AND Kenna for a single sex session. But all in all as long as Kenna still does G/G then more power to her doing B/G. It would suck if she stopped doing G/G altogether but even if she did I know she has a catalog full of great G/G stuff so Ill be content with fingers crossed that she will eventually do G/G again even if I was just being naive.
I can say the same things when it comes to kink stuff too. I love Gia Derza but I cant get myself to watch her scat stuff she did with Kaitlyn. Im not going to bash her for doing it because as long as she really enjoys it then thats all that matters. I know there is an audience for it. Im not into BDSM so as much as I love Casey Calvert G/G stuff I really cant get myself to watching her BDSM even though I know she is passionate about it and Ive heard many people rave about her work in that area. So again you can support someone but yet not watch some of the things that they do. If that all makes any sense lol.
^ I definitely see where your coming from and definitely agree that its not worth tarnishing your legacy, to then disappear or have a significant drop off in preformance, but if you want to do something else you have that right. But even though I wont check out the B/G scenes, I dont want to write them off either. But your right, it seems like when theres a switch the drop off happens or you never hear from them again. Some were able to make it work for them. Wasn't dani daniels an all girl preformer at one point?
^ So what do you do when a preformer does B/G on like a onyfans or something but in mainstream the are G/G? I cant think of any examples though. Like a Georgia Jones or Charlotte Stokely maybe? Although Georgia did the mainstream B/G twice then seemingly disappeared just like you said.
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Posted - Jul 13 2021 : 3:05AM
It's hard to think negatively of girls doing BG when piracy has destroyed this industry. They don't really have much choice. Also, it's the rare lady who doesn't like dick in her personal life, even if she keeps that out of her work life.
Lez porn pantheon member, Georgia Jones herself, has never claimed to be a lesbian, and if SHE'S not then, hey, let these GG girls enjoy what they want. I just want them to be good performers during those times when they ARE with women.
Also, I am double, triple, quadruple in favor of them saying something after they have a shitty scene with another girl. Like...just book B/G only if that's what you want. I wouldn't be mad if they called them out. Some of these girls don't even lick vagina and want to come wasting one of my weekly scenes when someone who likes or at least appreciates women could've taken that work instead.
There are plenty of G/G performers that do B/G only on their onlyfans. Shyla Jennings do B/G with her husband. Sinn Sage do B/G with her husband. Charlotte Stokely do B/G with her boyfriend Will Pounder. Heck even Sabina Rouge said last year doing the pandemic she had dick because she had a boyfriend. So technically she came out bi. I think she said it doing her first scene back with DigitalPlayground with Gia Derza. Now I specifically talk to Sinn and she said the reason why she doesnt shoot with other guys because she only want to shoot with someone she has real chemistry with and thats with her husband Drake Man-O-War. Thats definitely understandable. Abigail Mac in an interview said she was so nervous to do B/G because she didnt know how it would effect her relationship with Zac. Even though they talked about it and Zac was ok even when Abigail first started she really didnt truly have orgasms and was going through the motions because she still felt uneasy about it. Eventually she stopped feeling that way and truly start enjoying B/G and having orgasms and letting herself go but again that just shows me that when a girl who does G/G decides to do B/G its definitely a big decision for them. Yes for most its for the money and just doing something different but they also know the ramifications especially in the G/G community.
Ill also add that in the same way we look at a G/G performer going B/G I think its the same way B/G fans look when a girl like lets say Karlee Grey goes from shooting B/G scenes to only G/G because obviously whats going on in her personal life. Same with AJ Applegate who said on her onlyfans that she isnt shooting hardcore content anymore only softcore because she is transition and want her fans to understand. She said for those who dont like it to please kindly leave her onlyfans and she is definitely right. But she did say she appreciate those who still support her.
I'm not mad at g/g only performers when they eventually fuck a dude/multiple dudes on camera. I only watch dude-less porn but I do recognize the business. It's damn near impossible to keep up with the amount of new women who enter the adult film industry every day. So it ain't that hard to find new favorite g/g performers and those with the potential to be great. If you're giving an actress online grief for making profitable decisions in this industry then you should get over yourself & move on.
^ I totally agree. And yes the 2 I mentioned earlier would categorize not as strictly lesbian, They are clearly into men also so those were bad examples🙄🤣 It seems like there is a lot of pressure to do more B/G for preformers which sucks if they don't want 2 but have to just because the money is different. I don't think anyone would want that kind of situation at all And your 100 percent right, if you are not into GG, it makes it worse when its painfully obvious this is not what interest you and bring the whole scene down.
I totally agree Its a tough decision because its technically a career move, and its tough because say you build up a fanbase in one area, but decide to switch it up, you hope that they won't turn on you which unfortunately will happen but these are human beings making tough decisions, it cant be easy trying to please one group of fans while also getting pressure from another group.
Thats a good perspective to have. You never really think about the B/G preformer as well. I did see that a lot of people were upset with karlee which is crazy because I think she started a family with her boyfriend so clearly that would've been an issue. I Think Remy ran into the same thing with her content on onlfans. You just hope people understand thats its not easy either way you look at it.
I don't follow too much non-mainstream/studio productions, but the result is the same if there is readily available footage of a girl doing B/G. Although they may do G/G only for mainstream, they are still not a G/G only performer, like Serene Siren for example.
^ Thats a great point about everyone know the reason why someone who does B/G goes to G/G only. Ill point out that I dont know many if any girls who go from G/G to only shooting B/G. I guess the closest one is Kimmy Granger. She shot plenty of G/G and the poof she became a contract star for Brazzers and Ive only seen one G/G from her since. It was with Abella and Autumn for WeLiveTogether. It was a hot scene. Now she did shoot a G/G with Karmen Karma for onlyfans after she got her new tits. Im certain its the only G/G scene she has done with her new tits. But when she stopped doing G/G like she was doing I literally thought she retired because I never saw her again in the G/G landscape.
I also think about someone like Indica Flower. She hasnt done many G/G stuff but its not because she doesnt want too. Nobody really books her for G/G. She was so excited on twitter when she said she finally has two G/G scenes booked. I believe one is for Bellesa House which Im excited for. I dont know what the other one is. On her onlyfans though she has pretty much nothing but G/G stuff. Mainly with her girlfriends in her personal life and then close friends like Aria Kai.
I've always thought that part of the issue is that there are no "testing grounds" (i.e. amateur lesbian/casting sites). There are so many girls who enter the industry, but it's a bit of a crap shoot as to whether they will actually deliver when they are cast by girlsway or girlfriendsvideo, etc...
I know I am beating a dead horse, but if there were sites that were focused on setting up newcomers in g/g scenes, it would be much easier for studios to figure out who they should be hiring for their scenes. It would also be a great and fun way to get some more regular updates in a genre that is barely producing anything at this point. The idea that one ends up watching a high-end production with a girl that can barely stand to eat pussy happens far too often, and is absurd.
You have the minor leagues/tryouts in every sport you can imagine. They even do it routinely for B/G, why not G/G?
Some of the G/G greats didn't know they were into it until they were on a mainstream set, and I feel like there should be an intermediary step somewhere, especially since G/G thrives off of authenticity.
ATK did set up some amateurs regularly in scenes a few years a few years, back, but otherwise it's been completely silent...
^ I think in a way there is. I thought when it comes to Girlsway, they treat WebYoung for the newbies. Then for Girlfriends Films it would be "Cheer Squad Sleepover" series where we see the newbies mainly. Thats what I always thought at least. I know its not the same as ATK or even Idk if you remember FTV but studios like that for new girls. From what I gather, Abella Danger directs for a studio that only shoots girls first scenes. The bad news is its mainly B/G. I dont think Ive ever heard of any G/G scenes Abella shot for that studio. I wish she did though.
As for discovering whether or not a new girl has potential, I just follow the more experienced G/G who I think are great and what they think about the newbies. Thats how I discovered Kendra Spade. She did a scene with Jenna Sativa and Jenna raved about her and how she couldnt wait to get her hands on her. After that scene I was like Kendra is special. I been a big fan of her since. Same with Gia Derza. First scene I saw her in was with Abella. The test was if Gia could make me take my full attention away from Abella then she is something special. Normally every Abella scene its all about Abella for me no matter who she is with. That scene with Gia was the first and possibly only time Ive not paid much if any attention to Abella. So after the scene I was like Gia has got it when it comes to G/G and Ive been a big fan of her since.
Thats the same way I found out about K. Spade also. There is so much value in the experienced ones vouching for who they like to work with. I also think Alina Lopez had some really good chemistry in her scenes also.
Yes but how many of them were g/g only? How many them did it with more than their husband/boyfriend? How many of them did it during the year long lockdown where they couldn't shoot much if any porn?
Unless Sinn actually shot porn with different male performers then she can't say that she doesn't have chemistry with any of them because she never actually met any of them. Then again chemistry in porn is an illusion more often than not so not a very good argument for not shooting b/g content because I can guarantee you that Sinn did not have chemistry with all the women she shot porn with and that didn't stop her from shooting with them.
I doubt that Abigail has had an orgasm shooting b/g porn because the vast majority of those type of scenes make it nearly impossible to have one. If you need to believe that she has one then go ahead but the reality is that shooting porn is a job for these women and having an orgasm while it might be nice. It is not something they expect to happen and I think many of them probably prefer not to since they have a private sex life for that.
^ Sinn Sage and Shyla Jennings are G/G only. I cant speak for if they only shot G/G because of their husbands and Im sure Shyla shot mainly B/G with her husband because of the lockdown and she is back in Texas. I heard she said she is looking to get back to shooting G/G content for her onlyfans so Im assuming girls would be coming to Texas or those who are already in Texas will shoot with her.
As for Sinn, I think you misunderstood me. Sinn only shoots B/G with her husband because its real chemistry there. Shooting with another male talent I dont think Sinn would do it because you dont know how things would go. For her with women its different and there is always a level of comfort. So when she said that she only shoots B/G with her husband because of the chemistry I know exactly what she means. She has been with Drake since 2011 so obviously there is a level of trust, comfort, and chemistry there.
Now with Abigail, I dont believe she always have orgasms but to say that she never does is too extreme. There can be that middle ground. Yes I do know its porn but this notion that orgasms rarely happen is ridiculous. Yes there are those who dont have orgasms and are just great at making it seem like they are having it. I do think though that some if not more women than you think they do have orgasms or at least try to have at least one every scene that they do. But again I do agree there are certain positions or situations where its uncomfortable and a woman have to pretend to have an orgasm because its impossible for her to have one because of the circumstance. Then you mention private sex life? The one thing Im finding out more and more is most of these girls who arent married they dont have a private sex life. Tiffany Watson said the other day that the only time she has sex is on camera. Jane Wilde has went on the record of saying she dont have sex in her private life. I can tell you plenty of more girls who make it known they dont have sex in their private life. Mainly because many of them are single and they dont do random hook ups with people outside of the industry. And when they do have a random hook up with someone in the industry most of the time they are still filming it for their onlyfans. So if thats what you want to called private sex life then I can get behind that lol.