Allie Sin

If I was her brother or her father or her friend, I'd have had a good talk with her. If nothing else, drop the loser BF, move to LA, and do it right, pocket the cash, and get on with life. The mons venus sounds like a nowhere hellhole ... well, it sure looked it.

Or go get that college degree -- I don't want to make snide comments. If somoene wants to drop UTR, good for them. Young people don't have to be smart about everything.

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I hear the best bet in SF is North Beach and latenight "swing"-type basements of bars.

NYC there's an underground circuit (mostly WOC and sleazy johns with caterpillar used car salesman moustaches) but I rarely have the $200 needed to get in and get jiggy w/it.

Again, dial-a-babe!

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MSC in SF can be great if you do your homework first. There are lists of the girls with letter grades and monthly updates.

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I bet MSC has some pick hits. I went in clueless, a true rube, and got hustled. Same with O'Farrell. That's OK. You learn. I've gotten some freebies you'd not believe. Not that I'm a whoredog , as my ex-GF once accused me (while smiling that dirty smile that said, {I]Take me home right now and fuck me in the ass! ). Ahhhh, those were the days ....

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Edited by - Steph on 3/30/2005 2:25:51 PM

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a cousin of mine is rocketin towards 30 and he still thinks hes goin to be a rock n roll idol. he works as a stock boy at k-mart, wallmart, homedepot, or wich ever mart is willin to pay agin rockers minimum wage.

because of what he does, its easy for em to pick up on young girls that think one day he'll be a major star. what young clueless girl wouldnt want to be with some guy that one day could be rich and famous. he often gets free food were ever these girls work at and money so that, "they can come along for the ride" as they say.

maybe, just a thought, because ive seen this happen plenty of times. she probably saw some competition with other girls and she decided that she would out do em all by giving her body away for them for money. so she would be "his only one".

that is a hell of a thing to do, especially to someone who now says that she wants the past in the past. if she doesnt like what she did now. she probably didnt like it then. she may have done it just to seem more devoted to him.

she did come off as being pissed in that note, but she probably didnt think of porn girls as having fans but only having "loser stalkers" as she puts it. she might of thought that this part of her life would just be swept under the rug and no one would of ever found out about it. seein a group completely devoted to her past still up and runnin would definately make her feel like she would never leave it behind.

if im correct about the reason why she did this then im really sorry for her. she just made a mistake as a lot of young people do. lots of girls get in this buisness for quick cash then get swept away by people trying to get as much money from them. since she apeard in lots of diffrent pay sites im pretty sure thats what happend to her.

id like to think of my self as not a "loser stalker" but as someone who is not a prude and rather as someone who enjoys the female body for its beauty and fuckability :)

well, hope u enjoyed my 2 cents. :)
ps. im a man not a girl, long story on the name:)

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1st response to that letter we read

What's going on here? First you brag about offering "inside"
information about Allie. Then you beg for someone to post
copyrighted material. Now you say you are her? Why should I believe
you, at this point?

If you are who you say, you might have e-mailed me directly about
this and we could have discussed this in a reasonable manner.
Instead you chose this bizarre subterfuge followed by hysterics.

Let me make it clear to you that I am "stalking" no one. I had no
intention of visiting Mons Venus again. But anyone is perfectly
within their rights to visit the club as a patron, including any
member of this group. It's naive to think people who saw "Allie Sin"
on video would not go to see her in public performance. And there is
no crime in informing anyone of a place where she herself chose to
work at.

No one is keeping the person who called herself "Allie Sin" from
having a normal life. But the fact of the matter is she chose to
appear in a wealth of materials that have been widely circulated on
the Internet, and are available at countless retail outlets around
the world. Nothing is going to change that. This group is no
different from the hundreds of other Yahoo Groups devoted to adult
entertainment performers.

I could easily remove the Photos and Files folders and there would
be no reason for Yahoo to shut down the group. No one is profiting
from this group and there are no legalities surrounding posting
links to the many, many web addresses that feature "Allie Sin."

As for the information in the Database, I've made it quite clear
that the "facts" are little more than gossip. And again, there are
no legalities surrounding posting idle gossip. If you feel the
information is misrepresenting "Allie Sin," you are free to point
out what would be a more accurate representation.

If you are who you say, I can sympathize that you may regret having
done some things. But you chose to do those things. You're going to
have to live with them now. I'm being reasonable about this. You
aren't.

If you are truly uncomfortable with this group and would like to see
it closed, e-mail me directly and we will discuss it like adults. I
am not adverse to the idea, as the group is rapidly moving in
directions beyond my control. But I insist we do this in a rational
manner rather than via childish charades and veiled threats.

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Actually, I'm inclined to believe it really is Allie.

This was recently posted by Rose of Redd Rose Productions (who used
to manage Allie's porn career) on another group:

"she knows she has a lot of fans but is not inteterested that is past
her and wants to keep her pron career in the past and move on. She is
happy where she is right now and is very unhappy with the yahoo group
that is up about her and if i knew who posted it i would ask them to
remove it for her"

Also, Jeremiah Ruff (ruffjeremiah) used to be the singer of a Tampa
hardcore band of The Calm. So it all kind of fits.

I wonder if Allie's ashamed about her porn career in general? Or
maybe she's just pissed that people know where she's now working. In
any case, this whole group feels a little tainted knowing that she's
not cool with it. Assuming the original poster is really her, that
is.

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I just find it a bit odd that he/she would brag to the group claiming
to have info on Allie:

in another post this person says:

"i have quite a bit of info on "allie sin" that you would love to
know. if you have AIM instant message me. my AIM name is:
waitfortheking . if you dont have it, get it, trust me its worth it".

Anyway it really doesn't make any sense. Also if I recall this person
was also begging for someone to post videos of Allie.
When the moderator deleted the post the person probably got angry and
decided to post that little diatribe.

In any case if you really are "Allie Sin" then Hi Allie, Let's get
married. :p

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Bro, i have shot Allie for a few projects and have
hung out with her enough for me to believe whole
heartly that it IS her. Sounds just like her at the
end of her "career".Not to mention Her boyfriend is
named Jeremiah. So yeah, looks like you're John
Holmes. ;)

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My thoughts exactly. It might sound like her. But this is a fan site, and
that person did say he had a lot of info on her, so he may even know her,
but I know a policeman, and jsut because I know one and how they talk,
doesnt mean that just because I say I am one, I am. I have been a silent
lurker here but this just stuck out like a sore thumb, day by day, there are
posts, this person has a link, that person does, heres a pic, heres a link,
you know, then I see someone making real droneish posts like 'I know a lot
about allie sin' and thats all. Then IM me you wont be sorry. Then they get
reprimanded, politely reprimanded, and the next thing you know someone
claiming to be allie is saying to 'shut down the site' or they will 'shut it
down for 'ya'.

And if it is Allie then back off of my future mistress buddy! ;-)

SK

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Jimmy Lifestyles, everybody! Hey hey!
All the way from http://www.adultdvdtalk.com

This guy had the privilege of being on Allie's very last porn shoot.
He's the one who reported how she cut and run in the middle of a
solo thing. He's still got a previously unseen Allie scene in the
can, probably the last full on hardcore of her left for release.

Well if Jimmy says it's her, I'm sold.
What do you think, Jimmy? Should I close the group?

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ok once again im telling you this is allie. im erked beyond belief
at this point. . . im trying to get in touch with jimmy over aim to
have him post a convorsation i will have with him. if any of you
seem to think this is still my boyfriend "jeremiah" you are wrong,
im gathering all my model releases right now and making a package to
send to yahoo i have contacted them already and have been told to
send copies of my ID's and the model releases. which i am sending
out tomorrow so you can do one of two take the site down on your own
or yahoo will and your accounts will all be closed because i am
informing them that you also have sites up for other adult actors we
have not given you permission to use our videos, photos, or released
any information to you , so its up to you to make the wise decision
at this point.

good luck.

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aka Allie Sin.

Edited by - sweeetsugar00 on 3/30/2005 3:06:37 AM

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I'm convinced. I'm closing the group noon tomorrow, Florida time.
That should be enough to let all members know what's happened.

Three things you should know, ---------:

First,
there are two Allie Sin Yahoo Groups created by two different people.

I am the owner of this group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllieSin/

I am NOT the owner of this group and its family:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allie_Sin/

You'll have to get in touch with someone else about the other one.
I mentioned this in another e-mail. Perhaps you didn't read it.

Second,
I am doing this because I CHOOSE to respect your wishes.

As I mentioned, I could easily remove the Files and Photos folders
and Yahoo would have no reason to close the group. You have no
special right to any of the other information posted here.

But if this group makes you miserable, then it is contrary to my
intent, and I won't spite you further.

Third,
If you're expecting anything by way of an apology, you're not going
to get it. It was ludicrous of you to think that you could have a
hardcore porn career and it wouldn't follow you in life.

You've successfully killed my interest in you, but this will not be
the last time other people bring up the things you've done in the
past. Things which have all been digitally immortalized. It's too
bad you're so uncomfortable with it, as this will likely cause you a
good deal of regret.

Finally:
After all you said about respecting your privacy, WHY WHY WHY did
you post your real name? I meant what I said about keeping it out of
public knowledge. It was completely unnecessary.

And while I won't be offering an apology, I will say, sincerely:

Thanks for doing all that crazy stuff on camera. You're hot but nuts.

Edited by - sweeetsugar00 on 3/30/2005 3:07:39 AM

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last one

This is the last message from this group. Thanks to all of you for
your membership. I hope you enjoyed the group and had as much fun
with it as I did.

In case you're wondering, it's been confirmed to me by a couple of
sources now that those posts really were from the former Allie Sin.

And you heard the lady. If she's miserable about it, let's not dog
her further. She probably has enough to worry about. It's clear she
doesn't want the attention.

To keep up the group (which I could well do) would just be spite, at
this point. You may have noticed that jennymoondog has closed her
group as well.

I hope all this hasn't colored your appreciation of Allie's body of
work too much, and you continue enjoying all the crazy stuff she did
on camera.

Well, like they say in the Marines: There it is.

XrickyromaX

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Edited by - Delaware on 3/30/2005 3:05:42 AM

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thats what he said and its not like its a secret either, its been posted on other sites that have her aka's then says

real name: and there it is

"Finally:
After all you said about respecting your privacy, WHY WHY WHY did
you post your real name? I meant what I said about keeping it out of
public knowledge. It was completely unnecessary."

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Also, why did you feel the need to post so many of the group messages? It's over, yo.

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To be honest, I don't think she's even all that fucked up about her past. I think she was just trying to keep things from getting out of control. The group was reaching a little too close to home and she stepped in to prevent more of that from happening. Like people posting her friggin' MySpace account.

By the way, I always figured she was one of those pretentious hipster emo poseurs. God I hate MySpace and the painfully wannabe cool twerps it attracts.

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