Am I the only one who HATES self-jerking finishes?

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mr_sphinx Member 117 Posts 10/08	Posted - May 31 2010 : 2:20PM So even though I don;t post here, I've been watching porn for a long time and something that really turns me off is when the guy in a scene strokes his own dick, and this seems to happen 80-90% of the time in straight porn. This is a huge turn-off for me. I've tried for years to deal with it and nothing seems to work--at this point it's just exhausting. I can't buy a porn DVD anymore because I get maybe 1 (if any) out of 5-6 scenes that don't end in this way. I join Brazzers (which actually has less self-jerking scenes than most) and I get maybe 1-2 scenes a week--usually not with the girls I'd most like to watch. I join Naughty America, which has a handful in several years worth of scenes, and waste another $25 for a month--it seems that I can't ever get to see the girls I want to see finishing the job. Manojob, a handjob site that is all about letting the girls finish the guy off, is great, but there are too many amatuers and not enough pornstars on that site, the same goes for Massage Parlor, a happy-ending massage fantasy site, that still in its infancy and can't afford to bring in stars all the time like the big labels and networks can. It angers me that this seems to have become some sort of niche in the straight porn world, and that is has become OK with a largely straight male audience to watch a guy stroke himself off for a pop shot. It even happens in blowjob videos like the Dr. Fellatio series, and more recently Jonni Darrko has ruined almost every scene of his "Suck It Dry" volumes for me because I have to watch the guy pump his huge dick at the climax of almost every scene. Weirdly, instead of getting agreement from other users on forums, I get immature, idiotic responses, telling me I'm "gay" (?) or postings from stars about how "girls can't finish me" or "there isn't enough time for me to grab his cock, so he just does it himself". That doesn't change the fact that 70s and 80s porn had comparatively few scenes where the girl didn't finish the job. Indeed, it seems that this phenomenon of girls not being "good enough to finish me off" has occurred simultaneously with the appearance of male performance enhancers. There have to be others out there besides me that can't stand watching this in porn, and like I said, I'm just exhausted with it. [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - May 31 2010 : 3:29PM Too exhausted to use the search function, apparently. [Link]
Jonny Jay Outlier Moderator 5990 Posts 8/09	Posted - May 31 2010 : 5:00PM ^I guess so. [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Jun 1 2010 : 11:58AM Given how counter-intuitive the search function is, there may as not be one.... The "Head Case" series is about the only source of female-finish, non-moop-jerking-off porn that I've found... And it's really too bad. You are not alone. The standard jerk-himself-to-finish is a deal breaker for me. I will no longer buy porn that ends its scenes that way. And I won't hear their lame excuses... what kind of HOMO can't get off in the hand/mouth/pussy/ass of a gorgeous and hard-working porn starlet??? I'm forced to assume that Straight-For-Pay is much more common than I originally assumed. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jun 1 2010 : 12:32PM mr_sphinx wrote: Am I the only one who HATES self-jerking finishes? Click to expand No but you have a lot of clones. [Link]

Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - Jun 1 2010 : 12:37PM mr_sphinx wrote: That doesn't change the fact that 70s and 80s porn had comparatively few scenes where the girl didn't finish the job. Indeed, it seems that this phenomenon of girls not being "good enough to finish me off" has occurred simultaneously with the appearance of male performance enhancers. Click to expand There is your explanation. The answer: "Watch more classic porn." Jacco [Link]
charn fubar 2880 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jun 1 2010 : 1:16PM This topic could fit in the Boxcover Lies thread. If the cover shows fucking or blowjobs but not self-stroke endings it could be considered false advertising, although the OP is about downloads. MOD: ADT does not condone piracy. Don't advocate it in the future. Edited by - Flash on 6/6/2010 6:10:32 PM [Link]
aliciarhodesisgod Deactivated User 83 Posts 10/08	Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 5:17PM NewRomancer wrote: Given how counter-intuitive the search function is, there may as not be one.... The "Head Case" series is about the only source of female-finish, non-moop-jerking-off porn that I've found... And it's really too bad. You are not alone. The standard jerk-himself-to-finish is a deal breaker for me. I will no longer buy porn that ends its scenes that way. And I won't hear their lame excuses... what kind of HOMO can't get off in the hand/mouth/pussy/ass of a gorgeous and hard-working porn starlet??? I'm forced to assume that Straight-For-Pay is much more common than I originally assumed. Click to expand I think you've got it all wrong. The facial cumshot is something many like to see. I think it's way they don't jerk off in those means. [Link]
charn fubar 2880 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 8:44PM MOD: ADT does not condone piracy. Don't advocate it in the future. Edited by - Flash on 6/6/2010 6:10:32 PM Click to expand Would you like to suggest some alternatives? I said it might be the only way to go because I could not think of any other way to sift through the vast seas of crap. [Link]
charn fubar 2880 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 10:05PM It does look odd that I would spontaneously reverse my position on piracy, but I am reaching the point that most porn is worth less than a pile of used condoms. [Link]
ILVBUTT Member Nice & Juicy! 925 Posts 9/09	Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 10:30PM mr_sphinx wrote: There have to be others out there besides me that can't stand watching this in porn... Click to expand Of course there are. I agree with Newromancer, I don't like it either, but this topic has been covered in similar posts. Where I don't agree with you is BRAZZERS and NAUGHTY AMERICA Not having 'less of that than most'. That is mostly ALL they have, which is why (among other things)I don't like those sites, and won't join. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jun 7 2010 : 3:09AM charn wrote: Would you like to suggest some alternatives? I said it might be the only way to go because I could not think of any other way to sift through the vast seas of crap. Click to expand This isn't the thread to get into piracy, there is a thread for that. But to simply answer your question, you can always rent or go without. [Link]
Comet Man Member Boston 96 Posts 4/01	Posted - Jun 7 2010 : 9:38AM This is what I hate as well and I mention how the shots end in all the reviews I write, so you might want to start there...sadly very few movies don't have this and when they do, there are still scenes with it... [Link]
mr_sphinx Member 117 Posts 10/08	Posted - Jun 8 2010 : 3:17AM ILVBUTT wrote: Where I don't agree with you is BRAZZERS and NAUGHTY AMERICA Not having 'less of that than most'. That is mostly ALL they have, which is why (among other things)I don't like those sites, and won't join. Click to expand You're wrong about Brazzers. While the majority is self-jerking, they actually have a fair amount (15-20% overall, I'd say) of scenes where the girl finishes the job, mostly thanks to a guy named Keiran Lee. The only issue with Brazzers is that they do have certain models who will rack up scenes and never end up jerking the guy (Daphne Rosen, Diamond Foxxx, Katja Kassin, et. al.) even though they have done it for other sites and studios, so you have to check daily cause it's really a mixed bag. I also need to give credit to Shyla Stylez, who has a comparably excellent track record of finishing the guy off for multiple sites and studios. Shyla has finished guys in Brazzers scenes (a lot), Third Degree scenes, BangBros scenes, Digital Playground scenes, and even Wicked scenes, plus, she's so incredibly sexy. Sometimes I don't know what I'[d do without a new Shyla scene, and when she retires (hopefully in the distant future) porn will be that worse off for me. NA on the other hand is 95% self-jerking and I just can't abide it. They, like Brazzers, get some of the best, most experienced models and then apparently none of them can jack their male talent off, except occasionally Ava Devine (who has had a TON of scenes lately on NA) although oddly, the aforementioned Diamond Foxxx, who is my favorite, has two NA scenes where she finishes the guy (go figure!). The worst offender however is Cougars In Heat. Their site again gets experienced models, and not one has jerked off the guy. The THREE scenes (out of over 100!) where the girl finishes the guy are from 2007 with lesser-known one-name models--with the exception of the Sarah Paylin (Lisa Ann) scene where she gets most of it herself, thank God. The idea of the site is supposed to be that the hot older woman seduces the guy, right? So wouldn't her finishing him make much more sense? I realize that there are some instances where the girl can't do it, but that excuse CANNOT cover ALL of the scenes I've seen where the guy strokes off, and really, its ridiculously prevalent and it needs to stop occurring so often--instead it should be a last resort to get a pop, not the de facto standard. I'd be willing to buy a hell of a lot more porn if there were more scenes where the girl finished the guy, and I proudly support the sites that have what I want. And apparently ADT did need another thread on this, because it's still going on in almost every mainstream scene and new release DVD/Blu-ray, isn't it? [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Jun 8 2010 : 11:25AM One of the worst dismounts I've seen recently was in the horrendous "Big Lebowski" parody.... "Bunny" is blowing "The Dude" and he starts his pop, and GRABS his own dick mid-splooge!! What the fuck was that?!?!?! It was just one of the many things that made that "movie" a total piece of dog shit. [Link]

Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05	Posted - Jun 8 2010 : 12:04PM NewRomancer wrote: One of the worst dismounts I've seen recently was in the horrendous "Big Lebowski" parody.... "Bunny" is blowing "The Dude" and he starts his pop, and GRABS his own dick mid-splooge!! What the fuck was that?!?!?! Click to expand I personally can't stand when guys do that either. I suspect it because they feel the girl isn't doing or gripping it right though. [Link]
elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jun 8 2010 : 12:07PM Over-the-hill mopes could be a prime reason behind this sad phenomena. Why can't the mope just fuck her until he is about to orgasm, the pull out and give her a facial live any young red-blooded American boy. [Link]
KillerPanda New Member 1 Posts 6/10	Posted - Jun 9 2010 : 10:43AM Absolutely agree! Nothing annoys me more than the guy jerking off for ages, especially when it obviously took so long they had to cut the scene. Female completion is by far the sexiest, most natural way to end a sex scene. The only non female-completion I will tolerate is if the guy pulls out and immediately on her stomach/ass. I have given up on DVD's altogether as the OP mentioned you get so few scenes. Also some Private production are good for female-completions. in particular the Tropical series featured a lot of this. [Link]
billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jun 9 2010 : 2:29PM You guys aren't alone...it's the reason ALL my sites have the girls finish the job. There's some stunt cocks who won't take my work cause of it. lol [Link]
ControlFreak Member At the end of the day, it is what it is. 629 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jun 9 2010 : 8:50PM Self-jerking defeats the purpose of the fantasy. [Link]
elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jun 9 2010 : 9:03PM Mopes do too many scenes and/or do too many drugs/booze to give a wench a proper fucking. We need some limber-dicked young dudes to replace these worthless mopes. [Link]
charn fubar 2880 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jun 10 2010 : 12:20AM This topic was not such a big deal to me until I read this thread and thought of how many scenes could have been so much better, and some scenes that were completely ruined. I saw a scene today with a woman who had time to masturbate, cum, and then wait some more for the guy to finally end the scene. That would have been a nice scene of just her masturbating without his dick and hand in the picture. Instead of advocating piracy, I will now cheer for the death of most of the porn industry. So long, losers. You will be replaced by amateurs who make better porn for free. [Link]
elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jun 10 2010 : 1:03AM If the amateurs drive out the mopes, then how many mopes does one suppose might go Steve Driver. Tom Dongs of the world, you have reason to be VERY afraid. [Link]
mapofhawaii Senior Member 1050 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jun 10 2010 : 1:57PM To me it isn't a matter of the jerk finish, but the duration that it is shown. I don't understand when they show it for a whole minute or two. That said, if you want facials, it's almost mandatory, otherwise it goes everywhere. Then again there are some guys that can't hit the target at point blank range inches from the girl's face (Peter North half the time, Jamie Gillis all the time). But, I really don't get the intense aversion to this as long as it is short. How does it kill the fantasy? You don't like, or wouldn't like to give a woman a facial? [Link]
Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09	Posted - Jun 10 2010 : 3:49PM It wouldn't be nearly as bad if we had some editing out of the jerking off. When you have 5 minutes of jerking off as the girl kneels there with a open mouth it really becomes annoying and really is just laziness on the part of the editors/director. You can also blame Viagra wood also as I'm almost positive some cocks are so numb from viagra that its almost impossible for them to cum without rubbing it off. Case in a point is a FMF blowjob movie I revewed recently. The star/director had two girls given him a super sloppy b/j with extensive salad tossing in it for good measure. Each scene was 30 minutes long of super killer head and the guy still has to stroke it off. 2 reasons; one is viagra and the other is the guy might not like girls, thus needing the viagra and thus not cumming without rubbing it out. [Link]

NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Jun 10 2010 : 7:52PM mapofhawaii wrote: How does it kill the fantasy? You don't like, or wouldn't like to give a woman a facial? Click to expand The moop shouldn't touch his cock at all... It's lame... Like facials... lame.... Rosco Fuji wrote: Each scene was 30 minutes long of super killer head and the guy still has to stroke it off. 2 reasons; one is viagra and the other is the guy might not like girls, thus needing the viagra and thus not cumming without rubbing it out. Click to expand Ug... that sounds horrible... 30 min?!?! Yawn-o-rama... [Link]
Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09	Posted - Jun 10 2010 : 9:18PM NewRomancer wrote: mapofhawaii wrote: How does it kill the fantasy? You don't like, or wouldn't like to give a woman a facial? Click to expand The moop shouldn't touch his cock at all... It's lame... Like facials... lame.... Rosco Fuji wrote: Each scene was 30 minutes long of super killer head and the guy still has to stroke it off. 2 reasons; one is viagra and the other is the guy might not like girls, thus needing the viagra and thus not cumming without rubbing it out. Click to expand Ug... that sounds horrible... 30 min?!?! Yawn-o-rama... Click to expand I know what you are saying, but the girls were doing a really good job, so yes it was a little long, but the killer was the guy stroking it off. [Link]
povoholic Member 18 Posts 9/09	Posted - Jun 11 2010 : 3:44PM I totally agree mr_sphinx! And even if you found a scene where the girl makes him shoot there are many actors who ruin it by yelling: Move, move...move.....strockkk ittt .....don´t stop, don´t stop.....my gosh, oh gosh! Sometimes I have the suspicion that the actor either doesn´t think about the effect he has on the male viewer, he doesn´t care or deliberately wants to frustrate the audience. Although mentioned several times the "Head Case", "Blow me sandwich", "Whack Jobs" and "Destination Tonsils" series are a glorious exception from this habit. The directors nicely understand what the (majority?) of the audience likes to see. Sometimes if a scene, that´s ruined in the end is really good, I edit it for myself. Cut out the wanking and make it look like the girl did it. Let´s hope that more directors think about it, before the selling goes down. But maybe we´re just the minority? [Link]
mr_sphinx Member 117 Posts 10/08	Posted - Jun 16 2010 : 11:13PM I'm glad to see that several others feel the same way, as I had assumed that little would come of this thread. Now, what I think would be treally great is, if someone started a sex video series committed to having every scene with a male performer finished by the girl. At this point, we only have a few series that seem to be committed to this, and they have some issues. WHACK JOBS is great, but I really wish we could see some more oral in this series, also, where is my WHACK JOBS #6 Ms. Cummz? HEAD CASE is okay, but often uses the same guy, or guys who look almost identical, and they have a problem with producing decent or large sized pops. In fact, many cumshots are barely visible in this series. Also, the huge length and thickness of the guy makes it impossible for many girls to get past the top of his cock--I'd like to see some cocks that the girls are better able to take all the way into their mouths/throats. HAND TO MOUTH seemed to jump ship on Volume 8 where several scenes had the guy visible jerking himself off. Fail. Now, I'm all for a great BJ/HJ series, but I think we would gain a lot more support if we exposed guys to a hardcore series that had great B/G, B/GG, et. al. scenes that always ended with the girl finishing the job, which itself could be a selling point of the series. Would any of the studio guys/gals be willing to give it a go for one disc--especially on Blu-ray as well, 1080p porn is incredible, but there is PRECIOUS little that I can watch. [Link]
charn fubar 2880 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jun 17 2010 : 11:29AM Handcuffs. Or a second woman who sits on his hands. [Link]
povoholic Member 18 Posts 9/09	Posted - Jun 19 2010 : 3:18AM charn wrote: Handcuffs. Or a second woman who sits on his hands. Click to expand Nice idea! I´m thinking of the movie http://www.xcritic.com/review/14908/alexis-malone-take-no-prisoners/ If they only did a version where the captured male was prisoner till the end and the women would make him cum. But.... as usual - ten minutes and then the guy jumps back into the dominant role with jerking himself off. How about a "take no prisoners" pov-style movie? I also agree to mr_sphinx that they should select more medium-dick-sized guys instead of making her swallow a grapefruit sized head. I recently bought "hand to hand combat" from combat zone - all girl-finish and silent male actors - great! [Link]
Digmen1 Member 629 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jun 19 2010 : 11:59PM OP You know that you are not the only guy who would much prefer to see the girls do it themsleves rather than the guy jerking himself off. I am sure 90% of us would to see the girls doing it. So why don't the studios give us what we want ? I also hate it when the guy cums with such a weak stream. I am sure that means he came earlier that day, or yesterday. If I want to watch a week flow, I'll watch myself as I am 60 years old now ! [Link]
chaotic_23 Member 339 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jun 20 2010 : 12:11AM Digmen1 wrote: OP You know that you are not the only guy who would much prefer to see the girls do it themsleves rather than the guy jerking himself off. I am sure 90% of us would to see the girls doing it. So why don't the studios give us what we want ? Click to expand Maybe because the talent pool is so habituated to their own hands they can't cum any other way. alternately, (and less sadly), it's may just be quicker for them to jerk off themselves than have the girl do it. Time is money, they say. [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Jun 20 2010 : 10:08AM chaotic_23 wrote: Maybe because the talent pool is so habituated to their own hands they can't cum any other way. Click to expand Or Straight-For-Pay is much more prevalent than they would like us to believe. I figure there's gotta be something not very hetero about a guy who can't get it up, keep it up and get if off with a hot porn star sucking his cock! alternately, (and less sadly), it's may just be quicker for them to jerk off themselves than have the girl do it. Time is money, they say. Click to expand Given how long some of these scenes end up being I doubt that's a factor... it's not like it costs a LOT of money to shoot porn [Link]
screwcap Deactivated User I'm walkin' here........ 1032 Posts 6/10	Posted - Jun 20 2010 : 12:34PM i rearely get that far into the scene. so for me it's not important. [Link]

Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05	Posted - Jun 20 2010 : 12:43PM NewRomancer wrote: Or Straight-For-Pay is much more prevalent than they would like us to believe. I figure there's gotta be something not very hetero about a guy who can't get it up, keep it up and get if off with a hot porn star sucking his cock! Click to expand Nah, if anything, I think it's mostly because the guys simply work too much. Some because they can't get enough pussy, or there simply aren't enough guys to go around. I hear it's not uncommon for guys to shoot 5-10 scenes a week, sometimes 2-3 scenes a day. [Link]
charn fubar 2880 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jun 20 2010 : 1:11PM When it's quantity over quality, don't be surprised when customers think it' worthless crap. [Link]
mr_sphinx Member 117 Posts 10/08	Posted - Jun 22 2010 : 5:21PM I would genuinely like to know if any company is willing to commit to no self-jerking finishes for one B/G title. Come on, there has to be someone willing to do it, considering every other niche has multiple DVDs--show me a B/G DVD with girls finishing the job in every scene, I bet it doesn't exist from the last 20 years of material. I love how people who like midgets or shemales or spanking or pissing can get entire SERIES worth of DVD and Blu-rays to enjoy, but I don't even get ONE DVD/Blu-ray. And it's not like what I'm asking would cost extra or require certain kinds of performers... [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jun 22 2010 : 6:43PM I second mr_sphinx request. One company and it won't cost them a penny more. [Link]
screwcap Deactivated User I'm walkin' here........ 1032 Posts 6/10	Posted - Jun 22 2010 : 7:08PM My bizness is dun way before the scene ends to it's mox/nix to me. [Link]
Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09	Posted - Jun 23 2010 : 12:19AM chaotic_23 wrote: Maybe because the talent pool is so habituated to their own hands they can't cum any other way. alternately, (and less sadly), it's may just be quicker for them to jerk off themselves than have the girl do it. Time is money, they say. Click to expand Then why do they show 5 minutes of the guy spanking it off? [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 23 2010 : 3:24AM ^ Because 5 minutes x 4 = 20 minutes of filler? And a cheap twenty minutes, at that. [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Jun 23 2010 : 10:27AM charn wrote: When it's quantity over quality, don't be surprised when customers think it' worthless crap. Click to expand +1 [Link]
chaotic_23 Member 339 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jun 24 2010 : 12:27AM Rosco Fuji wrote: chaotic_23 wrote: Maybe because the talent pool is so habituated to their own hands they can't cum any other way. alternately, (and less sadly), it's may just be quicker for them to jerk off themselves than have the girl do it. Time is money, they say. Click to expand Then why do they show 5 minutes of the guy spanking it off? Click to expand Because it might take even longer if the girls were doing the jerking? Of course, there's no reason why they couldn't just cut that footage out entirely, except to up their minute count on the back cover. [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Jun 24 2010 : 12:05PM chaotic_23 wrote: there's no reason why they couldn't just cut that footage out entirely, except to up their minute count on the back cover. Click to expand Which to my thinking belongs in the Box-Cover lies thread too!! [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jun 24 2010 : 1:08PM Maybe porn has conducted market research and formed focus groups to discover this is what the porn buying public really wants. We subconsciously want to endue endless minutes of guys playing with themselves when there is a beautiful, sexy, fully paid women available to do the deed. It's strange I don't feel gay. [Link]
mr_sphinx Member 117 Posts 10/08	Posted - Jun 25 2010 : 1:21AM ntfighter wrote: Maybe porn has conducted market research and formed focus groups to discover this is what the porn buying public really wants. We subconsciously want to endue endless minutes of guys playing with themselves when there is a beautiful, sexy, fully paid women available to do the deed. It's strange I don't feel gay. Click to expand I'm seriously considering buying a couple of mainstream B/G compilation DVDs and stitching together all ther self-jerking together in one video file, burning it to a disc and screening it for my friends...we'll see how comfortable they feel after 20 minutes of hearing grunting, moaning guys stroking their dicks...that's called gay porn, I think. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jun 25 2010 : 7:44AM mr_sphinx wrote: I'm seriously considering buying a couple of mainstream B/G compilation DVDs and stitching together all ther self-jerking together in one video file, burning it to a disc and screening it for my friends...we'll see how comfortable they feel after 20 minutes of hearing grunting, moaning guys stroking their dicks...that's called gay porn, I think. Click to expand How odd that your mind edits out the women like that. [Link]
charn fubar 2880 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jun 25 2010 : 11:35AM MOD: This is the second time in the same thread I have had to tell you not to advocate piracy. Don't make a third time. In any thread. Edited by - Flash on 6/25/2010 2:28:13 PM [Link]
elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jun 25 2010 : 1:38PM Self-jerking mopes ought to have their legs hoisted high and mouths held open so that they splooge down their own throats. [Link]
charn fubar 2880 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jun 25 2010 : 3:58PM MOD: This is the second time in the same thread I have had to tell you not to advocate piracy. Don't make a third time. In any thread. Edited by - Flash on 6/25/2010 2:28:13 PM That time I did not advocate anything. Now, I am advocating some alternative to customer reviews that leave out the most important details. I'd like to see a preview function on rental sites. If anyone has a better idea, I'd like to hear it. [Link]