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Amanda By Night


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Mythsong
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306 Posts
8/02
Posted - Jul 16 2003 : 12:00AM
I just finished watching this. I have to say that I had mixed feelings. It was a really good movie - with some sex thrown in. It didn't hold together for me as well as The Opening of Misty Beethoven, even if I thought that it was, perhaps, even closer to a mainstream movie. It was also great to see a good movie of a different genre.

My problem was that there wasn't enough explicit sex. I didn't mind the scenes being short, and I really enjoyed seeing the intermixed cuts between mainstream scenes and sex scenes, but you just didn't see enough of what was going on. TOOMB had scenes that were no longer, but you saw more of what was happening when they were shown.

However, I was, again, awestruck by the acting ability and scripting of this movie. Perhaps even moreso than with TOOMB. There really is a huge difference between these classics and what you get these days when it comes to that aspect of things.

Unfortunately, if I had to rate it, I'd probably only give it 3 1/2 stars because, even though it's excels in terms of all of its good points, there's just enough of a lack of explicitness (by which I don't mean acts, or graphic close-ups, but just being able to see what's happening - several shots were in darkness or otherwise hidden). It's too hardcore to be considered softcore, but it's too softcore to "quite" be hardcore all the way through. So you're left feeling slightly confused. Ironically, I would give it a higher score if there were less explicit sex (what there is of it) just so that the tone remained consistent.

I'm still waiting for a copy of Taboo to arrive. So far, the classics that I've remembered from my youth have not disappointed me when seeing them again - in fact, I've enjoyed them even more. (Despite what SueR says. <grin>) I hadn't seen Amanda By Night before, but I have seen Taboo and, from what I can remember, I think I'll like it a lot when looking at it with some fresh eyes.

Edited by - Mythsong on Jul 16 2003

sdc
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236 Posts
4/03
Posted - Jul 16 2003 : 11:18AM
Mythsong, you should look out for some of Robert McCallum's other 70's films. I'm surprised he's not better known because 3am , V - The Hot One and The Ecstasy Girls are among the very best the Golden Age has to offer. I can't really comment of the explicitness of the sex scenes because it's been a while since I watched them but all three are excellent movies.

SDC

Edited by - sdc on 7/16/2003 11:25:31 AM

rjk13
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321 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jul 16 2003 : 12:15PM
Another McCallum movie I watch alot is Erotika. I've almost worn out my tape but I see the DVD is available for $5! so I think I'll upgrade. Great scenery, and I never got my fill of Samantha Strong. This is post boob job, and is supposed to be her first anal. I believe this may be Vince Voyeur's first movie.

But the sex is pretty tepid by todays standards.

jasontx1
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USA
5 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jul 18 2003 : 10:34PM
another Robert McCallum film that is pretty good is "Erotic City". It's got less of a story than his earlier films, but the sex scenes are longer if you like that, which personally I prefer them short. Plus it has Amber Lynn, which is a good thing.
Asmodeus
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10/01
Posted - Jul 20 2003 : 6:11AM
Mythsong, thank you for this mini-synopsis! I fondly remember watching Amanda By Night many years ago in an adult theater and I eventually bought the video which I still have. I've never really thought about getting this title on DVD but I prolly will now just to add it to my collection of older classics. You are right about it not being very graphic, especially in today's extreme scene, but I still like it and the many others from that time and they bring back alot of good memories of the early 80's porn era, so its all good. Long live the Golden Age of Porn!

"Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law" - Aleister Crowley 1875-1947

 
Mythsong
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306 Posts
8/02
Posted - Jul 20 2003 : 11:02PM
I need to stress (just to make sure) that I'd meant it wasn't graphic in a "qualified" way. I wasn't looking for gynaecological shots, nor was I on the lookout for any of the "nastier" sex of today. (I'm happy with very basic, straight forward sex if the other parts of the movie are good - which, in this one, they definitely were.) My complaint was simply that you couldn't really see what was going on sometimes (even if you did know in a general sense). Either things were hidden by a lack of lighting (so they were in shadow), or they were hidden by bodies. This wasn't always the case, but there were several scenes where it was. For those scenes, it had more of a softcore feel to it, and seemed to miss the mark of what it had intended. (Which is also why I'd said that I probably would have liked the movie more if there'd been less visible sex throughout - just so things could have been more consistent.)
Savoy All-Star Supporter
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1844 Posts
12/06
Posted - Nov 19 2010 : 5:18PM
Seven years later and I totally agree with the OP. There was so very little sex in this film especially with Veronica Hart. Far from feeling like story and sex were well-integrated, it's as though the sex were thrown in as an afterthought. 60 seconds of penetration does not make good porno.
The only other McCallum film I've watched was V:The Hot One which did a stellar job of integrating sex and making it very erotic.
Veronica Hart is great though. I miss this sort of porn star. Charisma and intelligence do much for me. And I can finally see what makes GGG go ga-ga for Gillis. He was sexy in this one.
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Posted - Nov 19 2010 : 6:19PM
I shall use this.
And I'm so happy for you.
Savoy All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 20 2010 : 5:29AM
I'm insane with the alliterations. I just can't seem to stop!
Yes, it was a breakthrough of sorts. :)
john lyons
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1/08
Posted - Nov 21 2010 : 10:17AM
I've gotta say, I whole-heartedly disagree. AMANDA, which runs 91 min uncut (Caballero chopped 3 min to fit it onto 90 min tapes) actually has a fair amount of sex (roughly 30-35 min of its 91 min RT). Granted, it also has more sex scenes than the average film of the era (9, IIRC), meaning that most of them run roughly 3-4 min, but so what? Any longer and they'd interrupt the flow of the film. Almost every scene is well integrated into the film and both enhances the plot as well as is reasonably erotic.
I mean, I don't get what people are expecting with sex scenes in narrative XXX films? Unlike loop carriers or all-sex movies, feature films need to be just that; a seamless integration of sex and narrative where each compliments the other. Therefore, if a sex scene doesn't fit into the plot, there's no reason for it. Same goes with length: in order to maintain pacing, you can't throw in 6, 7, 8, 9 min sex scenes and expect the audience to stay focused on the rest of the film.
The genius of Metzger was his ability to have sex be the plot, meaning actors would talk while fucking, and usually the plot would involve sex. But there are only so many movies which can be made about sex and AMANDA, which is a thriller involving prostitutes, is not "about" sex.
john lyons
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1188 Posts
1/08
Posted - Nov 21 2010 : 10:19AM
And any issues regarding the darkness of the transfer can be blamed exclusively on Caballero for their using a shitty tape master instead of rescanning a print or negative for their DVD.
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7/05
Posted - Nov 23 2010 : 6:05PM
picman
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1/03
Posted - Dec 12 2010 : 1:11PM
Quite possibly my favorite feature, ever. I thought it had a great blend of narrative and sex that made sense within its structure, not to mention the fact that I was always crazy about Veronica Hart.
I think one of the reasons that so many classics appear dark in transfer is that film prints were projected onto theater screens that were huge, naturally opening shadows for the viewers. Kind of hard to maintain that feel in a more compressed delivery.



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