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Drew Black
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Posted - Feb 7 2007 : 12:03PM
Article on Yahoo

I miss my Tivo.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 7 2007 : 7:44PM
Within the next year or so, I'm going to be forced by DirecTV to trade in my HD-Tivo for a new non-Tivo HD-DVR.

I'm sure that I'll miss it too.

Drew Black
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 9:47AM
That's pretty much what happened to us. Our DirecTV/Tivo box actually still works but the modem no longer functions in it so it's not able to phone home for the weekly/monthly calls.

The new DirecTV DVR replacement sucks. It's so bad that we won't consider going to their HD box.

K
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 4:55PM
What's wrong with it?
Drew Black
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 5:34PM
It regularly just stops working while watching a recorded show. It's a fairly repeatable bug. We typically start watching shows 15 - 20 minutes after they have started recording. Our unit is capable of recording two shows simultaneously while watching the playback of a recording. If we're recording to shows and they reach the end of their timeslot while we're watching one of them the system will hang 50% of the time.

Example: I start watching the American Idol recording 20 minutes after it starts while another show is recording. AI ends at 9 pm, I'm still only 45 minutes or so into the recorded program and the while the DVR is doing its end-of-program housekeeping something goes wrong and it simply hangs. Especially if I happen to be fast forwarding through a commercial while it's doing the housekeeping. And the hang is a total system lockup, picture freezes, nothing responds. I have to unplug the unit to get it to respond. (DirectTV even replaced it thinking that maybe the first one was defective.)

Other gripes: the menu system is insanely slow to respond. DirectTV automatically records "Showcase" shit to the drive that I don't want and there's no option to delete it. It automatically deletes after 30 - 45 days. The season pass prioritizer system is not very intuitive and the unit regularly misses programs it should have recorded. I'm sure there's more but these are just a few of the regular ones we gripe about.

Basically the DirecTV DVR is exactly the type of product that you would expect from a company with essentially no competition. It's crap and they know it but you're stuck in their iron-clad contract so what to they care? The alternative for us is to simply not have TV. (We can only pickup a snowy CBS over the air where we live and we'd have to put an antenna on the roof to do it.) We have been getting tons of promotional stuff in the mail from Dish Network but we're locked into the DirecTV contract.

Also, HughesNet satellite (the former DirecWay internet service) sucks hairy ass too. That's what we have at home and I'm sick of it. I simply can't work for many hours of the day and we're on the business plan with the big dish. We're going to switch back to a T1 since DSL/cable are not an option in our location.

 
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 11:23PM
I love my Comcast DVR
AztecGold11
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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 10:42AM
I have Direct TV and I don't remember a contract...hmmm I better check this.
The 1st Tivo I got from Direct TV was a Hughes that recorded about 35 hrs (was actually less)--it malfunctioned and they replaced it free with a Philips that is supposed to record 70 hrs (does not).

The only real problem I have is power outages that cause the system to reset, so I miss programming I have scheduled to record. In Georgia we have lots of electrical storms--not to mention my satellite is on a post out in the marsh, surrounded by water at high tide.

I also live in an area where my choices are BIG dish satellite or LITTLE dish satellite.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 4:11PM
Every time that you get any new equipment with DirecTV, you are committing yourself to another year or two with them (it used to be one year, they've recently changed it to two.

When Steph & Drew got a new DVR from DirecTV, they committed themselves to two more years of service.

Drew Black
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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 4:34PM
Actually, we had a choice. Since we've been customers for a long time (1998) DirecTV gave us the option of buying a DirecTV with Tivo unit to replace our old one for some silly price like $399 and we wouldn't have to recommit to a contract. The $399 unit came with a 1 year warranty.

The other option was to take the free DirecTV DVR (non-Tivo) unit and commit to another 2 years during which time they would replace the unit for free if anything went wrong with it. We chose this option. I hate DirecTV.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 5:29PM
I don't think that's an option anymore with DirecTV. They have gone with the rental plan rather than the ownership plan. All new receivers will have the same rental fee, which is free for the first receiver and $5 per month for each additional receiver (this is really a new name for the $5 additional receiver fee that people who own the receivers pay). However, you have to pay an upfront fee for advanced receivers (essentially, you're paying for the cost difference between a standard receiver and an advanced one). This is similar to what Dish Network has always done.

With the new methodology, you pay pretty much the same amount for a receiver and service that you always did. However, when you cancel service, you now have to return the equipment.

The positive aspect to this arrangement is that all receivers under the rental plan will now be under warranty forever.

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I hate DirecTV.
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They're still 1 hex better than Cablevision, who is my other choice. I wanted to get away from Cablevision so badly that, in 1994, I was willing to spend about $1200 to purchase DirecTV equipment.

Right now, I'm debating whether to switch to Verizon's FiOS. For now, I'm holding off until I see who is the first to come out with something that both of them has promised, a "whole house networked HD DVR". A few years ago, DirecTV announced plans for an HD DVR with 8 tuners and multiple hard drives. This unit would be installed centrally and act as a server. Each TV around the house would have a client box all of which would have full access to the network box. Therefore, you could start watching a recorded program in your den and then decide to go to bed an continue watching the same program right where you left off.

Right now, FiOS actually has a networked DVR. However, it's not High Definition.

Whichever company is the first to release this unit, will have me for a customer (at least for as long as their commitment period runs).

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