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| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Many girls that appeared in Ed's movies went on to have pretty long porn careers as it's also true that many others did only a couple of movies for Ed or other studios. If the looks of the male was a deciding factor than I suspect many girls would quit porn within a very short time. I was watching a scene with Lexi belle from a video she did with The Minion in 2007 for onr of Blacks on blondes site and the only word I can think of is discusting. |
| Drebin Member 686 Posts 3/09 | ![]() well said.. tiffany rayne had exactly that appeal for me, she would of looked super hot doing anal in HD :) was going to make a thread about this but not surprised someone already did mid 2000s all the hot american porn girls were consistently doing hard anal/dp scenes... what has happened to awesome series dedicated to hot girls getting ass fucked like teenage anal princess, spring chickens, fully loaded, 1 in the pink 1 in the stink and many more |
| SxDoctor Member 103 Posts 10/06 | |
| joyride Member 117 Posts 1/10 | Two of the many awesome young ladies I have vids of in my anal sex starlets collection. It's just a shame now all the good anal sex comes from European and Russian video websites. North America could take a pretty big lesson from the success of sites like DDF and Teen Core Club. |
| shalalin Senior Member 1737 Posts 11/07 | |
| Drebin Member 686 Posts 3/09 | |
| MrTibbs Member 372 Posts 7/09 | Are there really less American girls doing anal in porn nowadays? If so, I haven't really noticed; my preference is anal and the porn I watch is mostly American and I'm not complaining. |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | |
| MrTibbs Member 372 Posts 7/09 | |
| shalalin Senior Member 1737 Posts 11/07 |
Edited by - shalalin on 4/21/2011 1:02:14 PM |
| Scott Levy Member Big Bush Fan 260 Posts 11/09 | Aside from movies directed by Mike Adriano and Jay Sin (though I think his are mostly lesbo-only), there's not much quality anal porn being made these days. And DP and/or DAP-only or anal gang bang flicks are practically non-existent. And it was never one of my faves, but I've also noticed the bukkake and gokkun genre has pretty much completely died off. Edited by - scott levy on 4/23/2011 4:51:34 AM |
| upstatecb Member 20 Posts 8/10 | http://www.gentlemensclubpodcast.com/post/4930220580 |
| sodomyonsunday Member I am Andy Levy's Tyler Durden 115 Posts 7/10 | |
| sanchez_1960 Member 582 Posts 2/03 | I think it hit its peak at the time as they were pushing the edge of it. When they reached that stage, apart from a girl taking an entire car in their ass there was nothing left. The market has changed too with online only scenes as well as just less porn being filmed. |
| joyride Member 117 Posts 1/10 | That being said two people in the last few posts mentioned Ashlynn Leigh, and yes she is an awesome new anal sex newcomer, but the very fact that two of the last few posts mentioned only her and no one else just emphasizes the fact of how few anal sex starlets we have now. Also, I would say the peak in the anal sex starlet scenes was probably around 2005 and has been going downhill ever since sadly... Before this (from about 99/2000) almost every new young starlet was doing anal. Things really need to go back to that, and I'm all for the girls getting paid well for it. |
| Kaminsky Deactivated User 272 Posts 4/11 | |
| Drebin Member 686 Posts 3/09 | |
| upstatecb Member 20 Posts 8/10 | http://www.gentlemensclubpodcast.com/post/5547213053 |
| joyride Member 117 Posts 1/10 |
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| horndogger Deactivated User 229 Posts 8/04 | You bring up some good points and thanks for the walk down memory lane with such beauties as Keri Sable. I agree with you, there are some sites like letstryanal.com that are shooting new talent in anal scenes but it's certainly not like it was before. There are two points I'll add to your thread .... Concerns: 1) The agents are idiots and certainly not intelligent business people. They tell the girls to "hold out" for the big anal payday. It appears they haven't crunched the numbers lately and calculated the opportunity costs. There are simply too few dollars chasing to many anal holdouts in the industry now. A smart agent, willing to adapt, would take advantage and book the anal scenes sooner. This is a no brainer to me, the entire reason women are in the industry to begin with is money. 2) We are only a few anal producers away from total anal scene bankruptcy. love him or hate him, if you take away Adriano its over. Throw in a slowdown at EA and you might as well shut off the lights for new American girl anal scenes. Brazzers, JulesJordan etc are around but they just don't give us the volume of Adriano and EA. Horndogger |
| Alcoholic Member Bodybuilder and sex lover 139 Posts 9/11 | |
| Lone Wolf Senior Member LANA means ANAL :) 9658 Posts 4/11 | |
| Lone Wolf Senior Member LANA means ANAL :) 9658 Posts 4/11 | That's the state of American porn right now. Anal is so rare. It's become really very frustrating that new American girls all have such a strategy as to limit what they do on screen. No wonder why the girls from eastern Europe gets so much success. IMHO it could bring down the porn business in US as, given the existing legal pressures (condoms ...etc) and girls limiting their performance, producers and viewers (including myself) start turning their back on them and look for girls in Europe. Just as an example, the Anal king Rocco has not shot any movies in US or starring American chicks in a long long while, and that says it all. Another point to consider is over the past years we have not really had shining American porn stars (of the like of Tori Black, Shasha Grey...etc) who are adored in the industry and even beyond. It's just not a coincidence. Come on girls, we need more performance from you! We hope this state of things and mentality start changing soon. |
| babaro Member 539 Posts 1/12 | American girls are better entertainers. more personality. it adds value to the girls when they have great personas i'm sure Rocco wishes he'd come to the US more often... he probably doesn't want to take risks and come here to often. I don't think he has a US passport or a working Visa. if you get caught too many times coming here to shoot, they can ban you for 10yrs like they did with Nacho 11 yrs ago. so many new anal starlets Sheena Shaw, Melody Jordan, Jayden Lee, bailey blue, i could list 50 others Edited by - babaro on 2/13/2013 1:36:46 PM |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Just take a look at Italian, German or French made porn and you will see plenty of personality in the performers. Of course the movies will probably be in those language so unless you are fluent in some of these then you won't be sure what is said. P.s:You have named some recent ana starlets but the claim of being able to name 50 more is a major exageration. You'd have a really hard time naming 20 recent anal startlets. |
| Lone Wolf Senior Member LANA means ANAL :) 9658 Posts 4/11 |
Also, we are not disputing the fact that they are new US anal girls like the few ones mentioned BUT they are far (very far) less than what used to be in the past. French girls do have a lot of personality and the french usually don't have any taboos regarding anal sex so it's normal for them to do it. The only bad thing is condoms are mandatory in French porn, which is not good for me. That's why they outperform when they shoot in more international productions (Jessie Volt, Melissa Lauren, Angell Summers...etc) |
| crystally Member 8 Posts 2/13 | When girls are growing up in a poorer country, they tend to be more ready to do things that make them money....RIGHT AWAY While American girls that do it have to derive more fun out of it, because there's boring old money to be made elsewhere. In general I find American anal is more expressive (girls go oohhh) and European anal looks more brooding (girls go ooooo). In casting vids you can tell a lot of the European girls have that "wtf is going on" look or a very inquisitive business like look in their eyes whereas American casting vids, the girls are way more relaxed and have a fun/giggly/open attitude. I also find when American girls do anal its kind of obvious to see if what they say during the scenes is solely dirty talk for the guys to hear, or a genuine moment of expression. In European anal, its pretty much impossible to see what's on their minds. American anal is also way more concerned about the girls enjoying it too |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | I'm sure European girls would love to talk dirty during their scenes but since they can't speak in English then most of us would have no clue what they are saying and I think that's why they are expected to not talk during their scenes. That's also why they mostly ooo, or aaaa. Just take a look at most American porn and try to see if the scene would be as good if the girl didn't say anything like Eastern European girls do. |
| joyride Member 117 Posts 1/10 | Now it's just 21st Sextury, Teen Core Club, and the DDF types that seem to do this kind of stuff now. But it's still not the same as the American naughty school girl, babysitter, cheerleader types, it's sexy glammed up Euro porn, which is okay in it's own right, but where is the good ol' American anal starlet porn. I just can't find it around anymore. |
| joyride Member 117 Posts 1/10 |
Virtually all the the American chicks I've seen doing anal lately look like drugged out runaways doing porn to support a habit. This is not the kind of stuff we were watching a decade ago. |
| Lone Wolf Senior Member LANA means ANAL :) 9658 Posts 4/11 | If American producers/agents take a look at this thread, they'll see that there is a huge untapped market currently and if some starlets opt to start doing anal scenes early there's a big potential for success, instead that each and every one of the new girls adopt the calculated "anal strategy" approach [i.e. first starting with g/g, then some g/g anal, then bold b/g and ultimately b/g anal (if we are lucky)]. Edited by - lone wolf on 2/25/2013 9:35:30 PM |
| Julius80 Member 630 Posts 5/06 | thankfully, I joined videobox.com and for a low monthly fee was able to download literally hundreds of scenes and dvds of these favorites from the golden age of gonzo. (I have not relationship to videobox.com other than satisfied customer.) |
| indisposed Member 92 Posts 1/14 | Some of the more established actresses will wait a while in an attempt to get a higher sum for their first anal scenes, and also to keep their jaded fans loyal. I think Maddy O'Reilly and Anikka Albrite pulled this off rather well with their self titled movies. Asa Akira did this rather well, in that she initially built up a good fan base prior to performing in her first anal scene. |
| Chillusions Member 156 Posts 12/09 | |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | ^&^^I agree that economics has a lot to do why many performers now have to consider doing anal early on in their career or face the hard reality that bookings will be few and spread out over many weeks (if not months) unless they are willing to do anal in one form or another. I don't think this was a problem 4-5 year ago because the industry still had multiple studios hiring girls on a regular basis and these would hire them for solo, g/g and b/g scenes without the need to add anal unless the performer was willing to do it from the start but as the rise of more and more tube and torrents sites started to eat at the profit of every studio then even those profitable studios had to reduce their production schedule or go out of business. I think many of these mid to high level studios would still be shooting porn on a regular basis but the World Recession happened and this pretty much killed every studio except the very big boys. I agree that both Maddy and Annika have managed to survive for 3 years doing basic b/g porn. It's a little different for Asa because she precedes them by about five years so she worked with now dead studios but for argument sake I'll add her to the list of rare performers that managed to work a long time before making the jump to more extreme types of porn like anal but for every Maddy, Annika and Asa. There are countless young women who came into porn and left within a few months to a year because they didn't want to do anal(I don't blame them) so couldn't survive on the 1-2 scenes per week they were limited to. I think I know why many performers who don't do anal choose to do BSDM/kinky porn. The simplest answer is that it's a job and Kink, the main company responsible for most BSDM porn, shoots porn on a daily basis. They have 12 sites where a performer can shoot porn that doesn't require anal (it can in some) and if she is wiling to work with TS performers then you add another site to the list. You can add 1 more site if she is willing to do g/g anal and another is she is willing to go all out and do anal, DP in a gangbang setting. That's a total of 15 possible jobs for a performer and can be more since Kink has no problem hiring the same performer for a new scene on a site that she has already worked for. |
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