ok, im sure we all have our favorite american pornstars.
my question is if they were doing films in a country like GERMANY, would they be doing even nastier and more perverse things on film?
im mean take annette schwartz, as good as her american films are, when she was doing films in germany, she was swallowing piss from 10 guys, aswell as have girls piss in her mouth, and she swallowed it ALL. ive even seen annette eat cake while guys where pissing on it!
i think its safe to say that you will NEVER see annette schwartz swallowing the piss of 10 guys in an american porn release. im sure some posters are not in to "watersports", but it seems like in some cases the porn in a place like germany is a bit more extreme than in america.
ive seen kat, kelly wells, delilah strong get pissed on in a film like "piss mops" (kelly wells swallowed a lot, delilah strong swallowed a little).
does anyone think that if some american pornstars were working in germany (for example) they would be doing even more perverted things on film?
some times i think what if kelly wells or kat were working in germany, would they be swallowing piss on a regular basis?
im not just talking about watersports (although mainly), but other types of "fetishes" that might not be allowed in the united states, would these girls be doing these things in european contries like germany.
it seems like when american companies attempt to "push the porn envelope"(like in the piss mops dvds), these companies either "catch heat" and are forced to stop filmng these kind of films or discontinue releasing these dvds.
it was a MIRACLE that i was able to find "piss mops" dvd 1 and 2.
but if i didn't get lucky and see these "piss mops" dvds in a store, it would have been VERY HARD for me to find them.
the piss mops #2 dvd is not even on the jm productions website.
my question is do you think that some american pornstars would be doing even more extreme stuff if they were working in certain european countries (germany for example)?
does anyone think that american nastiest pornstars would "take it up a notch" if working in europe?
I have seen some European porn movies, but I prefer watching American ones. In most American porn movies the girls are better looking. Many European movies also have bad lightning. F.e. GGG movies have bad lightning and ugly looking girls and guys.
In my opinion pissing isn't sex. In porn I want to see sex so I'm not interested in movies featuring watersports.
That's what it is to you because obviously, you're not into it. But I'm sure you have a kink and whatever it is, somebody will get around to calling it garbage one of these days. Nobody is ever forced to watch stuff they don't want to see. You have to go looking for kink and fetish stuff to actually watch it. You're not just gonna stumble across a scat video or a pissing video and watch it, having no clue what it was.Obviously, there are people who buy all sorts of things...whatever suits their fancy. Why would you not wish for them to indulge themselves in their own homes?
The "Piss Mops" web site was shut down (or so I hear) out of fear of persecution. That's pretty fucking sad in the USA, if you ask me.
I’m against censorship by the government. I believe very strongly in self-censorship. If the day comes where that is nom in porn I’ll quit watching porn.
People have to check themselves. What’s next mutilation, actual real rape scenes, and snuff films.
If your perversions are leading you to the extremes, you need to put the porn collection away for a while. Go hiking, ride a bike, go jogging let ever thing settle and get control of your perversions. Give yourself a chance to back away from the extremes.
You can’t discount government censorship is it very real. The porn industry has to defend the very worse porn not the normal porn
That's what I thought too in earlier days, but this is simply not true ! The only bad thing is that German porn studios often do not know how to build up their stars and then keep them on top ! Besides there are many great, perfect done European porn productions. They are unfortunately not very well known compared to other titles.
Edited by - *KaylanNicole fan* on 2/21/2007 2:12:06 PM
Censorship is censorship. If, at any time, you feel that you can't express yourself because someone will be upset and the powers that be will come down on you, it doesn't matter what you call it, it's censorship. You don't feel free.
I don't think scat, etc will ever "become the norm" in porn. They may come up in the world from relative obscurity and you might see them in your local smut shop but that doesn't mean they're "the norm".
How do you get snuff films out of watersports and scat? Rape scenes? You can't rape the willing and therefore, a real rape will always be illegal. It's funny though. People always bring this bullshit up when they're arguing against a kink or fetish they don't like. Don't like it? Don't watch it! How simple is that?First of all, this is not my kink. I'm simply playing devil's advocate (somebody has to). But the fact that you're using the word "perversions" is pretty telling.There you go again! Ummmm....OK, as I said, this is not my kink. Well, watersports is cool sometimes (depending on how it's done) but I don't jog. I rode bikes for 20 years. I've had enough of that. I'm at a point in my life where I don't give a fuck if other people think what turns me on is wrong. As long as I know it isn't, I'm fine.Do you honestly think those who would censor it all see any kind of porn as "normal"? There's where you're sadly mistaken. The only difference they see between your "normal" porn and someone else's "disgusting" porn is that the minority is an easier target and a way to get their foot in the door. Let them if you will but once they do, it will not stop with what you think is "disgusting".
Sure there are things in American porn European porn can't come close to. But does that have to mean that European/German stuff is "real shit" like you said. Well, I don't think so !
not all german porn is shit. its always about the money.im sure a lot of german productions could make very fine movies,if they could pay like us productions...
i worked with annette as talent for ggg before she went to the states and i can say she loves watersports....
The government will intrude as far into the life of the average citizen as they think they can get away with. At some point, someone will convince them that you don't have a right to watch porn at all. It has nothing to do with extremes and everything to do with busybodies. They don't care if it's normal porn, animal porn, poop porn...it's all the same to them. When you finally realize that, you'll understand that it's going to be all or nothing with these people. They're not going to leave you alone as long as you don't "go too far".
I don’t understand that Germany has money. Probably more money than us now. Our government has been giving away our money and jobs for years now.
The problem I have with German porn is I don’t speak German or any other language besides English. So I’m shit out of luck and so is the German porn producer wanting to sell me his product.
I doubt the German government is paying for porn productions.
As for not speaking German, neither do I, yet I own quite a bit of German porn. You can use Orgazmik.com if you need an English-language web site to find stuff. Just remember that the DVD's themselves will still be PAL. Some of them may be Region 2, as well, though most are going to be Region 0.
I did not read all the postings but I think that Eastern European gals are much more nasty then any American gals in general. I think they are better looking too and have more spunk!
I seem to migrate to the Rocco's series so my opinion is a little skewed because of it!
I know I going to get allot of negative reply; but that my opinion!
ok, one thing is good at german porn or better than my loved us-productions. the names of the movies are great! this is real art. :D anyway: god bless america and especially a place called pornvalley ;)
The German government doesn't mind their citizens from watching all forms of porn as it keeps their minds off ever wanting to goose-step on mass or invade Poland again. Violence is frowned upon on TV, in films and computer games. But sex is positively encouraged in most areas. The German Government is very liberal, like that of the Dutch as well. Britain has become the country with the most CCTV in the world, we're watched and monitored more than anyone else. In Berlin there is no CCTV as the Germans say they never want to live in a police state again. There's a funny kind of irony there I think you'd all agree.
thats not correct anymore. cctv has become a big topic here too and it is planned to install a lot of cameras in the big cities. i think its ok, when you have a look at the crime rate in some districts in berlin or hamburg. even if in britain the cctv is much more spreaded.
Hey, i am still searching for the areas where sex is encouraged here. :D i guess the laws in france for example are more liberal. in germany it is e.g. not allowed to show hardcore in free-tv.
hard to translate lilze because the title loses a lot of its "charme" by trying. :) maybe "full-pissed sperm mouth"? (sorry for raping the english language)
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Posted - Feb 23 2007 : 5:03AM
All said and done the bottom line is that whenever there is even a fraction of demand there shall be a mile of supply. So if somebody freaks on watching a babe give or get a golden shower then be assured there shall be no dearth of performers who care only for the green$$$ big ones and they know if they say no some other chick or stud wud gladly oblige for half the cost and double the dedication. So if some babe wanna treat cum like caviar and a golden shower consumption like champagne...who are we to crib huh?
The whole problem is that up until quite recently, the whole world pretty much idolized and imitated the US......which, contrary to popular opinion was never really all that free when it came to all things sex.
With a little bit of effort, you can get your hands on porn pretty much no matter where you live. It might not be exactly legal (depending on your area) but it can be done. The deal is that if it's frowned upon in the US, it's probably not the most popular kind of porn elsewhere, either...simply because most porn producers want their product to be able to be sold in the American market. If you don't see it in every other adult movie made and sold in America, you're always taking a risk on persecution.
To each his own, but if you're suggesting that American female porn stars are more attractive then their European counterpart, that is laughable at best. If you're saying that American female porn stars are more attractive then their German counterpart well that maybe true.
Believe me CCTV does absolutely nothing to decrease the crime rate. It's just makes the lazy "Inspector Knackers" job easier. Violent crime, muggings, gun crime etc have all increased in Britain despite the presence of CCTV. The German population should do everything possible to stop the rise of CCTV in their country. Because believe me it is simply the first step to creating a police state.
I don't think it's fair putting pissing in the same obscene category as scatting and puking.
There's something erotic about pissing. That's why a lot of people do it. I'm not talking porn neither. You're average Joe does it! It's definetely nasty, but it's not disgusting. Even swallowing piss isn't bad. If the guy/girl has been drinking nothing but water all day and have had a ball of fruit, that piss pretty much doesn't taste anything. Scientific fact!
Now, crap and puke tastes like crap and puke. No matter what your diet is!
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Posted - Mar 7 2007 : 8:08PM
I like the way Spicoli says "Whoa!". I've tried to mimic that, but it never comes out right.
I don't think much of anything belongs in the "obscene" category. Those who think such and such is obscene shouldn't watch it and then they won't have to worry about whether it bothers them or not.Since when did scientific facts have anything to do with what Americans think about anything? At any rate, there are people who think pissing is just as nasty as scat. What say you to them? Remember, said people can't be reasoned with any more than one who thinks scat is nasty.I'm assuming you've done a taste test to confirm?
Again, personally? Scat and puke....ehhh, pretty disgusting. I could watch it without puking but my interest would mainly be curiosity. I like deepthroat stuff so I run into puke more often than I'd personally like. It's not a turn on for me. I do wish they would make sure you know when you're getting a video that has puke in it. And I don't mean mucus or copious saliva. Those are OK by me. But when she actually blows chunks, that doesn't do much for me but make me wonder how the dude could possibly be enjoying it.
I see my own crap and piss every day and I figure everyone else does too so I don't see what's so "obscene" about it. It's not my cup of Lipton but I don't have anything against people who like it.....just as long as they don't ambush me with it in an otherwise ordinary porn flick.
"I'm assuming you've done a taste test to confirm?
Again, personally? Scat and puke....ehhh, pretty disgusting. I could watch it without puking but my interest would mainly be curiosity. I like deepthroat stuff so I run into puke more often than I'd personally like. It's not a turn on for me. I do wish they would make sure you know when you're getting a video that has puke in it. And I don't mean mucus or copious saliva. Those are OK by me. But when she actually blows chunks, that doesn't do much for me but make me wonder how the dude could possibly be enjoying it.
I see my own crap and piss every day and I figure everyone else does too so I don't see what's so "obscene" about it. It's not my cup of Lipton but I don't have anything against people who like it.....just as long as they don't ambush me with it in an otherwise ordinary porn flick."
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I surely haven't, but the look of it makes up for the taste of it! Pee is easier digested, if you get my drift!
When I put puke as a category I meant people puking on eachother, eating eachothers puke, etc. I'm not opposed to watching a girl puke if she's giving head. Like you, I don't like chunks, but if it's liquid and not too Linda Blair looking, I'm all for it!
I too don't mind scat lovers! All I was trying to point out is that I think that there's a thin, well... not that thin, I guess, line between sperm and pee. They both come out of the love boat, sort of speak. Heck, people drink pee to reverse the aging proccess! (A little to much C.S.I. Las Vegas there!)
Posted - Feb 21 2007 : 1:32AM
