Somebody posted this statement within the past 2 weeks. "it seems as if all American 18yearolds want to enter the porn industry at the moment" and this is obviously a huge exaggeration but on the other hand he does have a point. The amount of newbies that appear to be entering an industry that is battling is huge and I for one struggle to keep track of them all. (an impossible and futile task but enjoyable trying none the less) My question: Is it an indication of the tough economic times and lack of employment opportunities or is it that young girls today are much more aware of their sexuality and are prepared to experiment a lot more than say a decade or two ago ? Has porn become more socially acceptable? Are young girls today just a lot more rebelious than previously? I am sure there are plenty of other thoughts on this subject and I would be interested to hear other opinions other than the obvious one which is - who cares lets just enjoy it while it lasts.
I think it is partly because women are more sexually open and just don't care you knows they make porn. They can make decent money to pay for college or whatever bigger plans they may have since most don't stay in the industry very long. I wouldn't say that porn has become more socially acceptable though. I sure as hell wouldn't want somebody I knew getting into porn. I don't think they are experimenting more than they did in the past. There are more and more amateur internet porn companies than say 10 years ago. There are so many internet porn sites that I could find a new one everyday and never run out for years.
Easy money to pay for various things including schooling is probably a good motivation for a lot of young girls. What with the costs of college tuition these days. Many new girls when interviewed almost always mention that they first viewed porn with their boyfriends and found it interesting/a turn on/made them more curious etc etc. I suspect because of the easy availability via technology of porn via laptops mobile phones and the rest more young people are able to access porn by just pressing a few buttons. Then seeing all these other attractive young girls apparently having a fantastic time they may reason well if they are doing it and enjoying themselves as well as making some fast cash maybe its a viable option for me to at least try. Another comment I read yesterday: "What is happening with all these new girls entering the industry it like a flash flood on newbies" Edited by - melt on 7/14/2009 3:37:58 AM
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Posted - Jul 14 2009 : 4:00AM
Everytime I hear someone say that girls enter porn to pay for college, it reminds me of "the Stripper (and Pornstar) Myth" that Chris Rock talked about. Watch the first full minute of this clip to see what I'm talking about. I'm liking the fact that so many new young girls are entering porn. The only problem that I see with it is that so many of them leave the business just as quickly as they enter it. It would be nice if the industry would keep more of these girls around for more than just one or two scenes. Case in point, there is this absolutely hot girl named Piper Brady who I've only seen appear in one scene so far. I would love to see her do more scenes. But at the speed in which so many of these girls come and go, I might be looking forward to too much. Here is a pic of the fine Piper Brady that I would like to see more of:
I'm really not sure that this is as correct as it seems. There may be more 18 year old or somewhat-that-age girls going into porn but look around, do any of us know of people who are really entering the industry? I, for one, do not.
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Posted - Jul 14 2009 : 9:51AM
It's not a myth, I graduated from a major university 2 years ago and knew several girls who were either working at a strip club or getting paid to either strip in their dorm room or get fucked by some middle aged dude from craigslist. Porn is WAY more acceptable now, Jenna Jameson is a hero to a lot of us girls who are tired of the stupid sexual double standard that says guys can fuck like dogs but girls have to be sweet and innocent. We even had "dogging" going on at our school, and if you walk by any dorm at any given time, you might hear some loud sex coming from the windows, and it was no big thing, it was actually funny. I visited one friends school where on the first rainy day of the school year like hundreds of college students would strip naked and run across campus. Nudity, sex, it's not as big a secret anymore. I can sure understand why more 18 year olds are getting into porn, if they got the body and can't find a job, why not? They already have herpes and HPV, what's the downside? I've seriously thought about doing porn, I just think I am too chubby, but it's not like I care about anyone finding out, I fuck my boyfriend in the back seat of my car while people stand outside and watch, lol. Emma Voyeur
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Posted - Jul 14 2009 : 10:02AM
"Everytime I hear someone say that girls enter porn to pay for college, it reminds me of "the Stripper (and Pornstar) Myth" that Chris Rock talked about. Watch the first full minute of this clip to see what I'm talking about." realtip, Haha, I just watched that clip and Chris Rock is bullshitting, he's just making people laugh, he doesn't know shit about the 2 friends I went to watch strip and the 3 others who worked at other clubs, not to mention girls who did things in their dorm rooms. He's just creating a comedy routine that people will laugh at, it isnt a commentary on reality. Okay, but about paying tuition, the girls I knew were doing it to make clubbing money for clothes and stuff, their tuition was getting paid by their parents or financial aid, lol. But it's not like every other girl on campus was stripping or fucking for money, at a school with 20,000 students it was like less than 1% I bet, but still, they are there doing it. Emma Voyeur
The reason behind the fact that there are so many young 18 years old American who want to enter the porn industry at this moment is maybe the Sasha Grey effect. Because she played in S. Soderberg's movie, she showed a lot of newbies that one can be a maintream artist even though she gets involved all the porn activities she does.
I think it's just because they grew up with porn. Girls Gone Wild infomercials paying on Comedy Central, their male classmates watching porn online on a regular basis, extremely sex-based mainstream flicks like American Pie, Not another Teen movie, etc..etc.. "porn's not taboo anymore.It's like Coca Cola."
I think, among other things, it's representative of the internet age, when so many girls (in fact pretty much all girls) have unlimited exposure to porn at their fingertips long before they turn 18. Think back, say, 20 yrs ago. 1989. While many young girls certainly had fathers with some porn on VHS, it was often hidden in a closet or drawer somewhere, and access to it was limited to when parents weren't home. Even further, it had to be watched on the family TV, and that takes some balls, so to speak, because neighbours might see you through the window, siblings might catch you, parents might come home, etc. So watching porn, while not out of the question, was a bit limited. Now, in 2009, essentially everyone has a computer. And most of the time, teenagers will have one for school, in their own rooms. With torrents, direct download sites, tube sites, etc. any girl as young as 12 or 13 likely has access to, and knowledge of, unlimited porn, in unlimited places on the net. So many of these 18yr old girls getting into the biz now say things like "I used to watch porn with my friends/boyfriend", or "I've been wanting to get into the biz for a while now, and I was just waiting until I turned 18". This kind of thing just wasn't available on such a mass scale 20, or even 10 yrs ago. I'm not saying there weren't 18yr olds getting into the biz back then, or that there weren't underage girls watching porn... but not on the mass level as now. I mean today, you would have to search far and wide to find a girl 14, 15, 16 yrs old, to find one that has never seen any porn at all. It's that pervasive. So with more exposure comes more knowledge, and more legitimate consideration of pursuing a career in porn. Put that together with some of the de-stigmatization around both porn and sex, and you have the perfect climate for 18yo girls getting into the biz.
Jenna Jameson a hero? I think I'll leave that one alone. Although porn is relatively more acceptable now than it used to be, it is still not acceptable in mainstream society. Alot of things are more acceptable now than they were 10 or 20 years ago, but that doesn't mean there are still no stigmas attached to them. There probably are a few girls who decide to fund their education by going into the adult entertainment industry. But those girls are very few, and are not representative of the average 18 year-old girl working in the industry. Edited by - realtip on 7/14/2009 10:54:37 PM
As a devoted lover of porn it is wonderful that there are so many youngsters going into it now. HOWEVER, I am still partial to MILFs or "cougars". Some stuff I'd like to see that I think would be hot to the max is this. Youngsters being taught how to really have sex well by the older gals. Can't we all just imagine our favorite cougars working over our favorite youngsters? I sure can visualize this in my mind but would like to see it on screen. Certainly there must be some way to get these two age groups together to really get each other off. Like a school for the youngsters run by the oldies or some similar scenarios. Or am I missing something or is stuff like this already out there? If it is please direct me to it. If not, some director should get it going. To me this is just about the best thing that any of us could imagine in the wonderful world of porn. Some thoughts on this one, please.
@melt: Thanks for the kind words. Cheers. It's an interesting thread you've started, as obviously many people have different things to say about it. Without writing a long post, I should mention there's also a viral effect to all of this. Even if a particular girl doesn't have that much exposure to porn, many of her friends will, and they can share with her all that they've seen and learned.
I think it's great. What im liking is that not too many look alike either. Hopefully, someone will tweak the format a little bit when it comes to the "young girl" scenes. I like the way Pornpros is doing it tho.
I like the idea a lot. Not only could the youngsters learn a LOT from the more experienced professionals but in the right format it could make great porn viewing. Its a niche that could fit nicely into Pornprosnetwork Realitykings or Brazzers. Even Bangbros may be a candidate. I even have a name "Graduates from the "Not-so-innocent High" Edited by - melt on 7/24/2009 11:27:05 AM
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Posted - Jul 15 2009 : 6:53PM
I have not had the courage to ask my 18-year old granddaughter if she has ever heard of Jenna, but somehow I would not be surprised if she has.
I think its probably odds on that she has but probably would never admit that to Grandad. More worrying would be if she has heard of Sasha and even more worrying if she knew who Manuel Shane and Ramon were. "You are grounded for life"
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Posted - Jul 16 2009 : 6:42AM
"I just wish there was an overabundance of 18 year olds who want to fuck me for positively no reason." Random Precision old guys can be fun to fuck, but there is a reason, usually you are more secure in yourself and are more romantic
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Posted - Jul 16 2009 : 6:47AM
"Jenna Jameson a hero? I think I'll leave that one alone" realtip you're talking from your perspective, but my generation is all about celebrities. and i know Jenna has problems, but dont you? I know I do. but she was one of the main reasons porn has become more acceptable in the mainstream, people talk about it more because of her. plus, given her rough childhood, she accomplished a fucking lot! emphasis on the fucking :)
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Posted - Jul 16 2009 : 1:32PM
^Yes, this generation is all about celebrities. But that typically applies only to mainstream celebrities. Jenna Jameson is not on the same level as Angelina Jolie or Jessica Alba. Again, porn has become relatively more mainstream than it used to be. But it still isn't completely mainstream. Porn is still taboo. Even if young women know who Jenna Jameson is, they're not going to admit it in public. And if they do, my experience is that they will not hold a positive opinion of her, or any other porn chick. They definitely won't consider her a hero.
OK this is sort of stepping off topic, but just for a moment. You raise a good point Emma, there are indeed some young women who recognize the advantages of sleeping with older men. But as an older man (well, not that old, but likely old enough), HOW THE FUCK DO I FIND THESE GIRLS?
I've been asking the same thing for years, after my two ATF escorts -- one a UTR college student, the other a UTR housewife -- retired. I got clued in to them by being on a private mailing list that, sadly, is no more.
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Posted - Jul 16 2009 : 7:08PM
All you need is a big bank account and they find you...
Hmmm. I don't hang with Morgan (nice joke btw), and I got no cash... I'm fucked. (And not in the good kinda way.)
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Posted - Jul 16 2009 : 9:11PM
I think the reason so many 18 year old girls are interested in porn is because they see all of the 18 year old boys interested in porn...period. Girls will do what they need to do to get attention from boys...look at everything else they do. That's it...out.
I just think that nowadays, girls are even more sex crazed than guys. Everything is being experienced younger, and younger now.. They really aren't lying on camera when they say they absolutely love sex. One thing I think should be stated is the 18yearolds that are doing porn, that you never would had thought, by just looking at them.
Perhaps it is just that now they don't feel bad about admitting it in public.
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Posted - Jul 17 2009 : 3:26AM
No. Girls just talk about it more. But guys are still the hornier ones. Whereas guys just want to do it, girls are more likely to sit around with their friends and have detailed conversations about it.
Emma you appear to be the only young lady to participate in this discussion with an insiders take on what actually motivates 18year olds to do what they do. We older males may be totally off base with our thinking and I am the first to admit that I have no idea what is actually going on in an 18year old's mind. Although some of the posts here appear astute and reasonable it really boils down to conjecture by most of us. I was hoping that maybe one or two of the scores of new girls some of whom do post here on ADT would give us their opinions on this subject but possibly they are reluctant to share their reasons for becoming porn starlets. Please accept my challenge.
So no taking up of my challenge. Come on Tanner Amia Riley and any other young starlet out there please give us some input from YOUR perspective even if its only to tell us that why you are doing porn is none of our frigging business.
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Posted - Jul 23 2009 : 6:03PM
Since i saw my name and all, lol, I was myspaced, and it's that simple. I've always been freaky so to me it was no biggie. I jumped on the band wagon :)
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Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:10PM
killbillvol69 "OK this is sort of stepping off topic, but just for a moment. You raise a good point Emma, there are indeed some young women who recognize the advantages of sleeping with older men. But as an older man (well, not that old, but likely old enough), HOW THE FUCK DO I FIND THESE GIRLS?" haha, I thought about this and the two older guys I met were in like situations where I could get to know them, their personalities, that they made me laugh and feel comfortable, then all of a sudden they started seeming sexy. of course like work, but also I guess clubs or dog parks. the one guy I met was on a river rafting trip and the other was in a chatroom (NOT a sex one, too obvious). But serious, there are young girls like me that like older guys. And NO, it doesnt take a bank account either, the last guy I dated was 42 and didnt even have a job.
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Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:13PM
xayhoundb wrote: I just think that nowadays, girls are even more sex crazed than guys. Perhaps it is just that now they don't feel bad about admitting it in public. EXACTLY! And I dont want to do porn for any guy, I want to do porn to make money and have fun doing it. I just worry about getting in now with how bad the economy is. ugh