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YankNSpank
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jumping in on you
29 Posts
1/07
Posted - Jan 23 2007 : 4:29PM
So here I am, first post ever to this excitng forum(Thanks for the link Fleshbot!)

So here is the most burning question. It's a long one, hold tight;

I am an accomplished video editor, have been for 15 years. I have this thing I do in my off time where I push out some edits for myself so that I can learn new effect plug-ins, tinker with After Effects a little more, etc.

I choose a subject matter that interests me and go with it. Well wouldn'cha know, I am usually interested in porn. Yep, grab all the tapes I can find and load em up. DVD's, and [cue the ominous music] stuff I swipe off of usenet.

Now this I do for my own enjoyment, close to playing a video game for me. I do what the over growing video editing population has started to call "music montages" or "compilation videos"

I like to do them to music (duh) and on a specific topic. In my world I call them "fan generated media" I take what I like and make it how I like.

So what is the industry's take on a person grabbing all manner of cracked video and flashing it for a few secs in a video set to music for the sole purpoe of making people say "oh GOD that is great I am going to bust a nut just watching it!"

I am interested because I heard the skin business is a little more....em..(how the hell can I say this without sounding corny as hell?, oh just say it)
...touchy?

tunacan
Member

NYC
53 Posts
6/05
Posted - Jan 23 2007 : 4:45PM
This is like DJ mix tapes, and even though you are changing it up, you are still working with copyrighted material, and that is still illegal.

Just as an aside, if you are talented and genuinely do enjoy this type of thing and are looking just get enjoyment out of doing this, I am sure there are some new studios who would be cool with letting you play with some of their stuff to make trailers or promo clips. Hit me up if you want to discuss it.

www.myspace.com/tunacanstudios

Tinaka
Member

953 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 23 2007 : 5:29PM
Morally, it would be better if you got it from a legit porn paysite or cracked the dvds yourself for yourself. Although i don't think its right for the industry to count every download (file share) as a lost sale because it certainly isn't. I've tried making trailers and stuff myself but with videos i'd gotten off of Videobox.com.


Edited by - Tinaka on 1/23/2007 5:33:15 PM

kirby
Member

California
187 Posts
8/06
Posted - Jan 23 2007 : 6:17PM
You mean there are people that pay for porn???

Just kidding. I don't know what this Usenet you speak of is because google doesn't exist and the internet is still something I've not fully understood yet. Also videos on most adult youtube type links are grabbed from aged VHS's and lose quality during converstion.

YankNSpank
Member

jumping in on you
29 Posts
1/07
Posted - Jan 24 2007 : 12:13AM
Looks like some cool stuff you are working on. Thanks for the offer. I'll be in touch as soo as my connection is a litle better as I am currently out of the country.
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don't they use the new microsoft security encoding? I am not into actually cracking the codes.
But I agree, the stuff I have downloaded and liked I have bought. video.stockroom.com is good for that, but I can't use the video to play with.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't like copyright infringement at all. I happen to own some rights myself. But there is a trend now with media business to open source their content for the fans use. Check out Nine Inch Nails last release. All tracks available for the fans to remix. The remix's are put out for everyone to watch and even Trent Reznor check them out and comments on them on his website.

Then there is the stuff I am more familiar with on a proffesional level where a guy with a love of say, oh I don't know, Alyssa Milano, makes his own "I love Alyssa" site and her people (read,lawyerse)consider it an honor and decide it is better to let the fans generate and regenerate interest.

So my question is more how if the industry has looked at the fan generated content as a plus or are they interested in blocking it?

 
tmd5
Member

seika izumi
502 Posts
6/04
Posted - Jan 24 2007 : 3:45AM
If some company says I can't make my own compilation discs from movies I own and PAID for then they won't get a cent of my money in the future. I don't give away my stuff or give DVD-Rs to people etc. I don't make compilation discs though. Well, actually once or twice.

Supposedly you can't really do this with Hollywood titles already, but everyone does it anyway. It's as common as people back in the day making Audio Tapes of their store bought CDs for their own personal use. My guess is quite a few people probably convert their home movies for use on the PSP or Ipod. Maybe nobody even watches movies on those! Probably not!

If I want to watch a movie on my cell phone or music, then i'll just rip my DVD I bought. Saying that is illegal is just plain stupid.

They now have software that allows you to record to WMV a "rented" DRM VOD. I won't discuess this, but i'm sure that's illegal. I'm just pointed out it exists, that's all. It's pretty much the same as using a Svideo/DVI output on your PC and recording the video input to a DVD Recorder or VCR.

I've seen all the newsgroups people speak of. I downloaded small clips back when I was younger, but I had no clue if they were copyrighted or what. Now I'm not even sure if full movies are easy to get on usenet. I haven't even bothered to check. Even with cable i'd rather buy a DVD. I'm too lazy to download 2gb or so and I HATE watching full movies on my computer. Never have, never well.

My guess is that FTP sites are more popular now. People pirated movies go onto IRC and trade sites etc. Maybe less now than years ago. Now I believe it's all torrents etc.

If Itunes or a similar company ever sold/rented Foreign language films not available on DVD, then i'd consider it.

Tinaka
Member

953 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 24 2007 : 8:50AM
Digital Rights Management? I don't think so. They never did when i was signed up and according to thebestporn.com they still don't. I know videoz.com did/do which was annoying. Videobox rules though 'cause they have Black Mirror.
juliachrista
New Member

Lost Angeles
2 Posts
1/07
Posted - Jan 25 2007 : 3:23PM
DtotheJ
Member

190 Posts
8/06
Posted - Jan 25 2007 : 3:34PM
for those that likened this to hip hop mitapes, I see your point.

but you do know that dj drama was just arrested a few days ago though, right?

[DJ Drama And DJ Cannon Prepare Their Defense After Raid

By: Alexander Fruchter
Published: Jan. 21, 2007 - Atlanta, Georgia


As reported earlier this week, DJ Drama and DJ Cannon were arrested after law enforcement officers raided their Atlanta offices. During the raid, SWAT team members took an estimated 50,000 CDs, computers, cars, bank statements, and recording equipment. The raid came after the Recording Industry Association of America charged the duo with racketeering, and violating copyright laws.

Drama and Cannon own Aphilliates LLC, and are responsible for the Gangsta Grillz mixtapes. In the past, Gangsta Grillz has featured artists such as Young Jeezy, Jim Jones, Diddy, and more.

The two DJs posted bond and were released from jail on January 17th, one day after being arrested. They are now preparing their legal defense and have hired attorneys to represent them. According to allhiphop, DJ Drama has enlisted the services of Ed Garland, while DJ Cannon has hired Janice Singer and Don Samuel.

DJ Drama released a statement saying, "This is an attempt by the government to paint an image of those involved in Hip-Hop as criminals...Don Cannon and I are being negatively depicted despite the fact we are legitimate businessman, highly involved in the community and college graduates that have never been arrested. We are being accused of damaging the music industry, when in fact, we are hired by record labels to help develop and elevate the careers of their artists by previewing unreleased material to the masses."

Don Cannon added, "Our track record for success has made us some of the most sought after music producers and DJ's in Hip Hop...We are looking forward to being exonerated of all charges and continuing to build our brand."

The arrest comes amidst heightened security measures taken by the RIAA. They are cracking down harder on piracy, exacting new techniques to track online and physical illegal copying.]


DJ Drama's attorney does not believe that his client was selling illegal CDs. He said, ""The charges against Tyree Simmons are false and we are confident this case will be quickly dismissed once everyone has a clear understanding of his business."]

It's fun and games until the Feds come knocking .....

Edited by - DtotheJ on 1/25/2007 3:35:43 PM

Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Your other left
14595 Posts
3/02
Posted - Jan 25 2007 : 4:32PM
So long as you do so strickly for your own use you are covered by the "Fair Use" provision established by the courts. However, if you do start giving them away, or selling them, then you're open to prosecution.
YankNSpank
Member

jumping in on you
29 Posts
1/07
Posted - Jan 25 2007 : 4:58PM
hmm. very interesting bout the arrest of the DJ, although he did have quite an operation going on there.

Grr. frustrating to think that I can't show people some stuff i thinklooks great. I'll have to rethink.

YankNSpank
Member

jumping in on you
29 Posts
1/07
Posted - Jan 25 2007 : 5:19PM
hey tunacan, I don't hve a myspace acount. is that email subsciption spam free or is there another way I can contact you?
tunacan
Member

NYC
53 Posts
6/05
Posted - Jan 25 2007 : 5:31PM
Totally spam free, I haven't even sent anything yet to people on the list, just collecting names for when the new sites go live. I suffer through spam like everyone else, I am not about to start contributing to the spam-demic.

You can email me at joseph @ tunacanstudios.com

www.myspace.com/tunacanstudios

mod: edited email address to prevent spiderbots from giving tunacan even more spam to delete

Edited by - hardware on 1/25/2007 11:16:51 PM

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