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-Kelly-
Senior Member

2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 20 2003 : 2:06PM
Hey, how's it going,

Just recently someone started a thread about how Evil Angel was "cranking out good ones." Well, upon my visit to GoliathFilms just now I feel compelled to do the same for Anabolic.

We all know that Anabolic/Diabolic has had some drama recently, losing Lex, Erik, and Jon among others, leaving John Strong to start directing, Chico to do a lot of work, and Buffy Malibu and her various aliases to step in. I naturally thought that Anabolic might go the way of obscurity, but at the moment they are casting the girls I like. RedLightDistrict has Nevaeh Ashton as well as the promise of Nautica Thorn in the future. I will be checking those out. However, at the moment I am really drawn to Jennifer Luv in "Spring Chickens 5", Betty Sue and Gwen Nicole in "Initiations 14", Brianna Blaze in "Bring 'Um Young 13", and Jaden in "Bring 'Um Young 14.".

Jennifer just looks ridiculously hot on that boxcover and delivers one of her best scenes so far in the tape, though it's an offense to how great her ass looks that she doesn't do anal yet/ My local video store is supposed to get "Initiations 14" today or tomorrow and I know I'll be bugging the hell out of them calling them to see if they have it yet./ They were the first to get anal and dp out of Brianna./ And considering that the director credited on the box is Jon Dough I imagine that "Bring 'Um Young 14" is probably full of older scenes. I'm betting that Jaden is actually gone back to college or her boyfriend or whatever but I'm delighted to see her doing a threesome in the tape. And for some reason I actually seem to expect Anabolic/Diabolic to be able to talk their girls into anal more so than RedLight right now. So even though she probably doesn't do anal in the tape, my expectations of Jaden doing so here are much higher than they were when I saw her on the box of "Lingerie 2."

A while back someone started a thread about the drop in production value in Anabolic/Diabolic videos. Well, Cal can say whatever he wants to about that but if you look at their stuff now and compare it to RedLight there is flat out no comparison. So I realize that despite all I've all ready said this might end up being a back-handed compliment, but if they keep getting the girls I like and somehow keep on managing to get them go really hardcore then I'll still be paying attention to them.


Kelly

When I first started posting here I only knew Taylor St. Claire. Then I got on an Evil Angel kick. Then I got a RedLightDistrict kick. Now I am digging Anabolic/Diabolic. Maybe after that I'll start liking PlatinumX or ZeroTolerance, two companies I haven't been impressed by but mainly due to disinterest in their casts.

PS--Just to cut off any negativity, I am aware of Anabolic/Diabolic's so-far lackluster efforts in releasing their new product on DVD. That matters to a lot of you guys. It doesn't really bother me. That's just me.

Update-It's much more obvious that at least one of the scenes from "Bring 'Um Young 14" is old. If you look at the box carefully you'll notice that Honey is in a pre-implants stage here, whereas she all ready has implants on the cover of "Lewd Conduct 17"

Edited by - tscfan317 on Oct 20 2003

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 20 2003 : 2:47PM
IMO, Anabolic should bring in the Tusion-crew (Khan Tusion, Frank Tusion and The Yellow Menace) to direct some reality movies for Anabolic. I would love to see The Midnightprowl.com on the 'big screen' instead of just on a website. I don't want happened between Anabolic and Khan Tusion but the guy can be very creative and I would like to see him direct movies again for Anabolic. The only problem I have with Anabolic are the too many gays acts like male rimming and male toe sucking but thank for the fast-forward for that.
Well I got rid of my VCR after I bought my DVD-recorder so I can't watch VHS and even if could I wouldn't because I'm not gonna support VHS anymore. IMO all companies should have a DVD-only policy.
cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 20 2003 : 3:53PM
Diabolic has gone to simultanious release if you haven't been paying attention and the new improved DVD's should be hittling like gang busters as we speak. The new wave of gonzo is about to hit and kick all your asses. Save your lube and don't hurt you pudds cuz you'll need the xxx-tra
stroke time! Mark my words Ana/Dia were always the leaders of the pack in the past and history repeats itself.

I spoke to Chico. The next Spring Chickens #6 will have Nautica Thorn in a 27 minute scene. This scene fucking rocks and she also does a complimentary blowjob to boot right in her pretty wide eyed mug of hers.

Speaking of Betty Sue in Initiations, yes this was indeed her first and last boy girl scene (not counting a blowjob or two). She realized she couldn't deal with the boyfriend factor after this scene. She takes a mouthful of spunk and realizes that guzzling a load is much harder in reality than on paper.


Cal444
Somewhere

Edited by - cal444 on 10/20/2003 4:06:55 PM

-Kelly-
Senior Member

2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 20 2003 : 4:59PM
Hey, how's it going,

To be fair, I think I've been needlessly comparing Anabolic/Diabolic to RedLight for a while now. When I recently saw "Bring 'Um Young 13" and "Spring Chickens 5" it occurred to me that neither company is better than the other. Even though they are both gonzo companies and seem to snatch a lot of the same girls (i.e. Arianna Jolle) their product is very different right now. The inspired bit of having Trixie Kelly blow the Pizza Deliver guy in "Spring Chickens 5" is something you would never see in a RedLight tape. However, if it were in a RedLight tape it might have had better lighting.

I'm in several film classes at the moment and am still learning as I go but so often I've heard talk of lighting creating mood. Following that line of thought, it just seems that these two companies have different moods about things in their persona and in their product. For example, in "Spring Chickens 5" Jennifer Luv, looking achingly hot in a skimpy white top and bottom get-up with great make-up, is playfully paraded around the Diabolic wharehouse as she does her best to fight back laughs while mimicking the sound of a chicken. It's just goofy fun. Then John Strong comes in and really works her over. By contrast, in "Young Ripe Mellons 3" and "Young Tight Latinas" Jennifer sits on a couch as the guy behind the camera talks to her. Then the stud comes in and they have sex. I don't know that one is hotter than the other because the actual sex on display in each video I mentioned is really hot. It just depends on your mood.

As for my anal scene comment-
Amber Rain-2 RedLight tapes-no anal
1 A/D tape-anal
Brianna Blaze-3 RedLight tapes so far-no anal
-1 A/D tape-anal, dp, dv
Lisa Marie-2 RedLight tapes-no anal
-1 A/D tape-anal
Melody Max-2 RedLight tapes-no anal
-5 A/D tapes-anal, dp, anal creampies

There are your, God love them, hardcore girls like Arianna Jollee or Amee Donovan who do anal and dp for anyone they want to, but as of late the girls right on the edge have been doing anal for A/D as opposed to doing it for RedLight. Maybe there is just way too much emphasis placed upon anal in the first place or maybe Dion respectably backed off when these girls said no but A/D kept pestering them, but the fact still remains.

To be honest, I used to hate Anabolic/Diabolic. When Taylor St. Claire was doing "Nice Rack 6" and "Lewd Conduct 9", among others, was when I first saw a video from those companies. I loved Taylor's scenes there because, basically, Taylor was in them. However, the more I watched Anabolic/Diabolic stuff the more bored I became. It all seemed so mechanical and I was dying to see more teasing action going on. However, I watch Anabolic/Diabolic now and I don't see that kind of flaw all that much anymore. It's different than it used to be. Now you might think I'm saying that now RedLight has become mechanical because they have those old directors but I don't think that is the case. Vince is probably a much better director now than he used to be. It's just that RedLight can sometimes get too formulatic, though the sex will still be hot, well-shot, and with great lighting.

As a fan, I basically follow the girls I like where they take me (can't be said enough.) However, if they do a tame "Hustler's Barely Legal" tape or a "Sean Michaels Productions" tape I won't check those out because I have a low opinion of the series or company they are appearing or working with. But when it comes to Anabolic/Diabolic or Redlight I know it is going to be really good if perhaps slightly different. So, I can't wait to see Nautica Thorn in "Spring Chickens 6" just as I can't wait to see her in Jake Malone's new RedLight series "Fuck Dolls". (I know that she is also working with WestCoast as well as VCA...am I wrong in assuming that she is really going to blow up all over the place soon?)

Thanks for the tidbit about Betty Sue's scene. My smut shop didn't get it today. I'll have to check it out tomorrow.

Kelly

Edited by - tscfan317 on 10/20/2003 5:22:22 PM

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 20 2003 : 7:53PM
Just finished the title sequence to Spring Chickins 6 and it rocks! I'm going to do the "Let me tell ys a little
story bout Nautica" when I dump the VHS version tonight.
It will be linked to the opening titles. Tomorrow. Hold on to your hats this is one goofy fickin flixx. Rock on!!!!


Cal444
Somewhere

Edited by - cal444 on 10/20/2003 11:50:44 PM

 
flames444
Deactivated User

5 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 20 2003 : 8:53PM
Ramsey is right on. Anabolic/Diabolic/Red Light etc. do not shoot porno. They shoot Anatomy 101.

The porno firm of Tusion, Tusion, and Menace have forgotten what the others haven't learned.

Flames444
Nowhere

DreamWeaver
Member

288 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 20 2003 : 9:08PM
Every studio has there strengths and weaknesses. The problem with Anabolic is they're inconsistent. One release could be great, the other crap. It's really a roll of the dice when picking up a title from them.
skronker
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Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 20 2003 : 9:12PM
I hate VHS as well, Ramsey, but in America, at least, there's still something called a "free market," so until the people take up your campaign porn companies will continue to produce VHS tapes. I don't see any problems with that. The smart consumer knows where the value is, and DVD has been the fastest-moving new format ever, perhaps. To insist on a DVD-only policy is to ask companies to a) neglect the percentage of their customers who still have VCRs; b) put the hurtin' on rental shops slow to update their DVD archives -- I find that video porn is still dominant even here in NYC when you go to rent it; and c) refuse profits.

That makes no business sense at all.

The tide will turn, is turning, but whether you like it or not there's always gonna be room for the VHS format, just like cassette-tapes. It'll be years before it's wiped out of porn, but probably not as soon as in the regular Hollywood market, I think. For instance, my parents, who watch a fair amount of rental movies, even one of them is happy to get my old porn tapes (guess which one?), have zero interest in DVD. I offer to buy them DVD players as gifts and they tell me no.

So, there you go. It's a good few years away.

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 21 2003 : 1:44AM
Technology is for the young at heart. My Grandma always use to un plug her VCR and it would continually blink 12:00. She'd call and I'd have to go over, go into her menus, set the clock. Solution to the problem pure and simple, I finally put electrical tape over the blinking clock. No more clock calls.


Cal444
Somewhere, sometimes simple is best

Edited by - cal444 on 10/21/2003 1:44:28 AM

-Kelly-
Senior Member

2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 21 2003 : 9:44AM
Hey, how's it going,

"Technology is for the young at heart. My Grandma always use to un plug her VCR and it would continually blink 12:00. She'd call and I'd have to go over, go into her menus, set the clock. Solution to the problem pure and simple, I finally put electrical tape over the blinking clock. No more clock calls."

Cal, I think a lot of us can probably relate to that.


Kelly

PS...I'm a member of AnabolicXXX so I saw that b.t.s. clip of Nautica blowing her boyfriend and trying to get him into porn. I know that he is the guy she worked with in "Sakura Tales 3" and in another full sex scene on an obscure website. However, I get the impression that she is working with different guys now considering how much boy/girl she is doing. Am I wrong? And I'll be looking forward to that write-up on her. Next to Avena Lee, Nautica is one of my favorite Asian girls of all time though I'm not entirely clear on what ethnicities she is from.

Edited by - tscfan317 on 10/21/2003 9:46:26 AM

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 21 2003 : 11:54AM
cal444 didn't reply to my post about Khan Tusion so I guess him directing for Anabolic again is out of the question.

Too bad because I'm sure the Tusion brothers can kick some ass bigtime, I love their work!

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 21 2003 : 12:44PM
Khan, while being one of the, "Kings of Porn", brings lots of content that could possibly put you on the front line of any law enforcement agencies hit list. While enticing, not exactly what a established fortress company needs to be doing. I have lots of respect for the depths of depravity Khan's mind will sink to, editing Rough Sex 1-2, were two of the most eye opening experiances of my life, it'd be a bitch to defend in front of a jury.

I think Khan should be able do do whatever content he chooses, it's a legit alternative lifestyle shared by many in our communities. Few if any would would rally by your side in a court battle though.

It's a business like any other business you have to protect your interests. Sucks but it's true. There are very few Larry Flints in our community willing to give up thier ability to walk for thier convictions.


Cal444
Somewhere

flames_444
Deactivated User

1 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 21 2003 : 6:30PM
Hey, I'm blocked, what'd I say?

I can see you guys are real proponents of the First Amendment. Give me a break!

Flames_444
Somewhere thinking there's a giant conspiracy out there

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as stated in the forum rules and etiqutte:
"If you are connected to a studio, store or other company and promote that company as if you are not connected, your account will be deactivated."

as someone who works for a porn company i'd think you'd know that the first amendment does not apply to a private business.
-steph

Edited by - Steph on 10/22/2003 8:06:24 AM

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 21 2003 : 10:10PM
Flames444, ya mocking me?
444
Nowhere
Seems direct to me. I'm not above conspiracy.


Cal444
Somewhere

Edited by - cal444 on 10/21/2003 10:11:53 PM

-Kelly-
Senior Member

2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 21 2003 : 10:39PM
Hey, how's it going,

First off: I'm not sure what Flames was talking about so if this conversation turns hostile between Flames (who has only posted 1 time so far) and Cal then so be it.

Second of all: I realize that a lot of people are skeptical about A/D right now and a lot of those people who are skeptical have been long time fans and supporters. I think part of the reason that I find myself lured back to A/D is because I never saw enough of their old stuff to see any kind of drop-off.

Lastly: I just checked out "Initiations 14." It is good and the lighting is actually much better than I expected. Betty Sue's scene is intense, as John Strong and the other guy really tear into her and she seems into it the whole way. I really do hope that in the long run this doesn't end up being her only boy/girl scene. I was, however, kind of surprised that not all of the scenes bear nametags. If I remember correctly the main scenes bear the trademark nametag, but the 2 or 3 quick blowjob scenes don't have that as the very unkown 2 or 3 girls say their name and give around a 2 or 3 minute blowjob. I know somebody started another thead about being disappointed in "Down the Hatch 11." Maybe that tape is in fact not very good. I don't know. I haven't seen it. But I can say that "Initiations 14" looks really good to me. I'll try to write a review of it and post it in a new thread in a day or so.

And....I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw David Fucking Hardman pop up in the last scene of the tape. I've seen him make appearances in some Notorious productions as of late, but I'm surprised to see him in a A/D tape. I thought he was just about retired but he somehow manages two pop shots in his scene so what do I know.


Kelly

Edited by - tscfan317 on 10/21/2003 10:40:49 PM

 
cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 22 2003 : 1:58AM
Dave Hardman is one of the unsung greats of porn, I've personally seen him and Everhard go for four x-trs pops in a gangbang, I think Hardman's twice Everhards age. I don't care what anybody says Hardman in my book is A+


Cal444
Somewhere

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 22 2003 : 5:48AM
Here here. But I wonder why hasn't Anabolic used Dave Hardman more? He only seems to be in the Gang Bang Girls serie but I don't think he has ever been in the other series of Anabolic or am I wrong? I have a lot of respect for Dave Hardman!
flames__444
New Member

1 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 22 2003 : 4:34PM
Dear Steph,

I appreciate the fact that you posted the reason behind my banning. I understand it, I accept it, and you have my foremost apology for my deception. In the future, if I post, I will do so under auspices of Website Shill so that all the forum readers recognize my bias. Thank you very much.

Flames__444
Website Shill

cal444
Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com

927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Oct 22 2003 : 9:38PM
You'd have to address a director on that question. Out of my realm.


Cal444
Somewhere thinkin

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 23 2003 : 7:06AM
In that case I hope the Anabolic director(s) are smart enough to use Dave Hardman more. The guy always delivers. There should be more places left in Anabolic movie for guys since Dion is keeping all of his RLD/PX directors/performers in his cage ;-)
gonz
Member

atlanta
27 Posts
10/03
Posted - Nov 2 2003 : 5:15AM
when you buy a DVD do you look for guys?

gonz

dion
Combat Zone

438 Posts
7/02
Posted - Nov 2 2003 : 11:37AM
Ramsey,actually I opened the cage,Mike Stefano,Manuel,Steve Holmes,Riba's and Everhard they can work for who ever they want,I want them to make more money.

Dion Giarrusso
Red Light District

P.S. and Lexington,who isn't with RLd No More,he is great talent,who I think will work for everyone.

lkdg2832
Member

566 Posts
11/02
Posted - Nov 2 2003 : 7:59PM
I like the idea of chris taliana being in anabolic now. i liked her in some evil angel flicks
Bonecrusher
Member

30 Posts
7/03
Posted - Nov 19 2003 : 9:04PM
Sorry folks. My time in front of the computer has been greatly limited. But I got a little time today. Flames 444, BEAT IT sounds like you are cutting in on my cutting down territory. And you are not alone with the Steph lecture, so stop bragging about it.

Bonecrusher
Just reading shit and then I read some real shit.
Bat's ready to rock. You feel lucky punk? Well,, do ya?

Gof
Member

United Kingdom
151 Posts
4/03
Posted - Nov 20 2003 : 11:29AM
I am presently looking forward to watching Brianna in Inch Freaks 2. She just has that certain look that does something for me.

There seems very few details on Un-Natural Sex 10. Do you have any details on what Brianna does and have you seen the film?

Thanks

 
Wally
Senior Member

1821 Posts
8/01
Posted - Nov 20 2003 : 11:38AM
^^ dpp.



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