It has occured to me that anal has moved past being a popular act in xxx videos to driving the world of porn at the core. The expansion in porn over the past 8 years is mostly because of the explosion of gonzo, which is anal based. It's at the point that girls simply have to deal with the anal issue eventually and in most cases must offer up their assholes to the camera. In hardcore innocence 6 their is a scene with two guys and two girls.....David Perry is one of the guys and he simply can't wait to fuck the girls ass pipe. He goes to her anus immediately and she has this look of embarrasment on her face as she tries to calm this thundercat down. She nice looking with big natural tits but it's all meaningless because her anus is the target. If that doesn't sum up porn today....I give up
Unfortunately, I think you're right. Personally I could do without the constant fixation on the ass. I mean, it's a shithole for God's sake!
Yeah, it's hot to see a cute young thing get buggered from time to tiume, but this whole thing has gotten out of hand IMHO. DAP,TAP, and coming soon, to an asshole near you, QAP --- enough!
I'd rather see just plain old "vanilla" fucking and sucking - it can be just as hot if it's done right - witness the new release from 3rd Degree - "Share the Load". Incredibly hot threesomes, and some scenes don't have any anal at all.
I like anal. Most of the movies I buy are anal only flicks were the pussy isn't touched at all, not even licked. I don't care much for daps. I like 1 on 1 anal scenes. Looks like it's here to stay for a while and lucky for me, because without it I'd have to give up watching porn. Watching pussy fucking is boring to me for the most part, unless I'm really attracted to the girl. I fuck my girlfriend's pussy all the time and it's great, but getting anal from her is rare, so if I don't get it as much as I would like in my personal life, the next best thing is to watch it.
I agree with the first two posts. Anal is much too common now. Especially with emphasis on gapes, ass-to-mouth, and DPs. Pretty soon DAPs, TAPs, QAPs, and FiveAPs will be the hot commodity! Just goes to show how desensitized gonzo porn has made a lot of viewers.
RLD is the well known for videos that delve deep into depravity and nastiness with their gonzo anal porn. I rest my case with their new title call Cum Filled Asshole Overload. I stay away from stuff like this. What exactly is their goal with porn like this? Are they trying to make us sick and disgusted?
Let's all hope this stuff dies out and goes back to what porn used to be...which is good old one-on-one scenes with some anal here and there.
Well, I don't know if I'd go that far. I'm a big fan of Blow Bangs and massive cumswallowing scenes, so I guess we diverge on the last point.
Edited by - Cumwhipper on 8/3/2004 12:49:03 AM
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horndogger Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 3 2004 : 1:21AM
Don't get me wrong gents....I like anal as well. The point I'm trying to make is that there is an obsession in porn over anal and these girls are placing themselves in this situation. For a porn girl to do anal is no big deal...what makes this whole thing interesting is the culture of anal. The liquid diets, the breathing during scenes, the relaxing and pushing out after the big dick leaves her ass so she can gape, friends giving advise on what to do, box covers listing how many anal scenes are in the movie, all anal titles, ass to mouth, girls marketing their first anal.....it's nuts - your talking about fucking a girl in the ass - that's all. When you look up anal in the dictionary, we're not even using the word correctly. What these girls must be thinking when the first question is all about anal.
I understood your point. But the point I was trying to make is that too much emphasis on anal makes the viewer get carried away and start craving more deviant and explicit anal acts for their desires. It's like gonzo's only purpose is to push those of us looking for the NEXT STAGE.
If, as you contend, the growth of porn is due to the increase in anal sex scenes, then that means that even in mainstream audiences there is a demand for such a thing. If audiences were offended by it to a large extent, the market would dry up. Vivid, Wicked, and Adam & Eve would make a killing, cornering the market. Remember, the basic economic principals always apply. I'm not sure that gonzo is the hook that drew in more people. Porn is simply more accepted, which is why some porn starlets have been able to cross over into mainstream. Twenty years ago, Ron Jeremy would not have been on broadcast television. American society has changed in how taboo porn is. People in the porn industry used to be virtual outcasts, sometimes even in their own families. This also has changed to a degree, to the point where young starlets to be seek out the industry and say to old-timers that it was their fantasy when younger to fuck said porn-stud.
Gonzo is anal driven? Since when? Gonzo is a style. Series like BangBus which may or may not have anal are also gonzo. Gonzo is simply cheaper to make than traditional feature porn. No scipts, lines, inept acting, and sets. Just film a little talking (maybe), maybe a little tease, then sex. At most gonzo is personality driven, but many times not even that. The growth of gonzo is probably just cost. If anything, gonzo could be more offensive to the mainstream, low volume porn viewer. It does not even give the pretense of a story, just plain sex. The reality of the situation is unavoidable.
Is the shear volume of anal scenes too much for some? That is a totally different question. But the points you bring up just confuse the issue.
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horndogger Deactivated User
229 Posts 8/04
Posted - Aug 3 2004 : 4:11AM
Croy, You are misinterpreting my comments. I am not going to even begin the indepth conversation as to whether anal sex scenes are good or not - I think the answer would be somewhere in between depending on personal prefrence. My remarks are essentially an analytical view of the porn industry, and how this sex act seems to dominate above all others. If you can't see the anal fixiation in porn than your clueless. We all know how we got here....the anal scene is in high demand because porn is fantasy and that is something that doesn't happen a lot in peoples personal lives - verified!!! The fact that anal has become something that porn girls are presented with is understandable using this logic as they are entertainers and anal is entertaining. The stuff that gives you pause is the theatrics around anal, from the pressure girls are under to do it, to girls telling the guy that she would like to taste her ass of his cock. I think back to Zoe commenting on her first anal scene for John T Bone and how she cried during the scene. Speaking of T.Bone I watched a scene he lensed in which Shyla Foxxx was told to breathe so she could get through her anal - and she started heavy breathing. Porn girls are entertainers but they are getting cornholed worse than in prison and they are so dumb that they actually help drive the anal culture by offering their asses and mouths for these acts of depravity. Comments ???
Cornholed worse than prison? My lamb and martyr (you look so precious), such imagery, are you a poet?
You cite examples of girls in distress, yet there are plenty of girls (several of whom post here) who not only know what they're getting into, but actually enjoy it. Are they just telling us they do so we'll feel better about watching it? Selling the fantasy? Maybe in some cases, but others, I seriously doubt it. Some women, believe it or not, not only like it, but have intense, body-wracking orgasms from it.
Is there an emphasis on anal sex in porn? Of course there is. Why? Because people buy it.
Is there too much emphasis ? Could be, but if I had to guess, it's importance will fade back somewhat as 1) enough people cry foul (and they do, believe me, this is not the first or last time somebody said "too much anal?" here at ADT) and 2) the, er, "bottom line" indicates that "all this buttfucking product isn't moving as well as it used to".
Call me cynical, but I believe the only thing that'll force your garden-variety pornographer to change their ways is to take food off their table, because their distributors will demand they find a new way to glut the market with the Next Big Thing (I hear it's ear-fucking, or...what'd you say? can't hear you, there's something in my ...).
By the way, calling the girls "dumb" across the board like that is not only crass and ignorant, it's flat out wrong. Some are dumb as stumps, just like where you work, I bet, but that ain't the point.
Point is: it's fine and dandy to keep up a dialogue and let the "porno powers that be" know you're sick of it, but the better ploy is to boycott with your dollars and STOP BUYING (and encourage everyone else you know who spends money on porn to do the same thing), because if I had to guess, as long as filming assfucking is profitable, you're going to get a lot more of it.
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DenverDon Benevolent
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Posted - Aug 3 2004 : 4:53PM
Yeah, I have a few.
1. Yeah, there are some performers that are probably dumb, just as there are some that take drugs, but there are also many that are brilliant/smart and just about anything else in between. In other words, about the same as with any other group you could encounter - the good, the bad, and the ugly.
3. We are quite pleased to have many performers from the porn industry post here on these forums. Would you stand face to face with them and say "you are in the porn industry so you are dumb"? I think not. Remember you are face to face with them so have the same consideration in your post as you would have in a conversation.
4. Generalized slurs (racial and otherwise) are not looked upon kindly here.
It's already been suggested that you 'vote' with your dollars. Buy what you like and avoid that which you don't. Post and discuss, but don't slam.
i'm also in the camp that anal is getting overdone. i dont mind it but emphasis on gapes and how many dicks you can fit at once is a bit overboard imo. what i dislike the most is when a gal's innards look like they are going to spill out of her butt. i hate seeing the pink sock or ass tulips on film. instant wood killer.
What baffles me is the fact that gonzo porn producers are absolutely terrified of producing vids that are obviously non anal. Are there any boldly stated "100% Pussy, No Anal" vids out there? Nope. Even vids that have no anal (some of Rodney Moore's stuff), it's not stated anywhere, as if they're afraid to hurt sales. The only way you can find a non anal vid is from reviews, or forums. Strange, since many people, maybe the majority, prefer vanilla sex. And how come none of the porno makers on this board ever comment on why all the anal?
I would so rent/buy movies proclaiming "100% anal FREE". I don't like it at all, neither does my fiance.
Perhaps it's a homophobic thing deep down (but I doubt it, since I love creampies/sloppy seconds/etc...) so that can't really be it.
But there just isn't anything exotic or appealing or sensual to me about ass fucking at all.
I understand others have their things (like I'm sure others think I'm sick for liking creampies and sloppy seconds) but I just can't get off on watching so dang much anal out there. I long for the mid-to-late 80's when movies were produced with a light theme, great bodies and real non-anal sex.
First of, this is a lot like this thread you started. Is the redundancy needed? Second, I didn't misinterpret your post. I said that you choose to confuse the main issue - too much anal sex in porn, with a bunch of stuff that is simply not true - gonzo is purely anal sex scenes. This may be analytical, as you say, or an old politician's trick. My answer was that gonzo is purely a style. The fact that gonzo happens to contain a lot of anal is another subject. Third, do you really believe that you will get a good response by calling people dumb or clueless? I don't know how people in your part of the world act, but that doesn't lead to good conversation. On Forums, it leads to flamewars. And do you read a post before commenting on it? Fourth, as I said, women in porn choose to do anal. If they didn't, there would still be porn and a market for the same women. Some may like it, some may even prefer it, some may do it as a marketing/career move. Either way, their choise. Five, I think that anal is not driven by a huge market demand, but by the competitiveness of being the most extreme. This is really for the jaded and raincoater crowds. Six, funny thing about sexuallity is that some people enjoy things you don't. Find out before making blanket statements.
I agree! Anal sex, if filmed right, can be a real turn on. Now it's gotten to a point where the female ass is no longer the focal point. It now seems to be centered on the inside of a female anus. Pretty nasty!