I for one still enjoy one-on-one and "normal" pussy fucking. There's no need for those scenes to be boring or lacking the energy. Sometimes I feel like I'm paying money to see too many guys on the screen. For me the best formula seems to be two-on-two: two girls, two guys. It brings more variety to a scene while still giving plenty of focus on the girls.
I am with you BigBobxxx, anal has been way overblown, just my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy anal to some extent and I love DP, but pussy fucking is way underappreciated these days.
The scenes that seem to bother me the most are the ones where there is strictly anal, especially when the girls are really hot. It's like, "What the fuck? There is a perfectly nice pussy for you to fuck right there!"
I don't know if it's a domination thing or what, but the pussy seems to have lost most of it's appeal. Grrr, I hope this "anal is everything" phase eventually subsides, we need more variety. Kudos to the directors who actually understand that not everybody is an anal freak. Let's get back to the pink!
Porn is the only product in the world made, directed, produced, and distributed by people who are non-consumers of what they sell. And that explains a lot.
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Posted - Feb 19 2005 : 8:46PM
Yeah... without any intention of reducing women to their genitals I must admit the pussy is what excites my most on a female body. Maybe that's because men have (a hairy kind of) asses and (a flat kind of) tits, too, but a pussy is truly feminine. Often it's even better no dick coming in its way... a woman stroking or licking it looks hotter to me. And anal... well I could live without it... it's no a turn-off but I'm quite indifferent about it.
I agree ! Anal is fine too but the focus on it has just gotten out of hand. Too much is too much. I also love pussy and everything else on a woman.
I do have to admit that I don't care for B/G scenes. I go for G/G or B/G/G . I do understand 100 % that many love to see B/G and I can't say anything against that. I have been reading many reviews here and there are tons of B/G scenes in many videos.
There is a time for everything. I absolutely enjoy to watch pussy fucking but the same is true for anal. The most important fact for me to appreciate a scene is how well it is shot. Lighting is also important.
Also, I think that sometimes I can enjoy a nice pussy more when the girl is taking it up the ass in RC. That is when you have the best views of it anyway.
I love anal, but lately I'm surprised that I've enjoyed some scenes without it. I hate scenes with more than one guy. Sometimes after watching a movie I realize that I spent most of my time trying to see around the guys. I learned my lesson and I won't buy movies that's focused on multiple male scenes.
I'm not sure when exactly "vag only", fell to the ranks of "Specialty Porn", and it does seems the male to female ratio has increased, but Anal flicks, still have vag sex in them, with "Oral", still owning precedence for the cumshots. I've seen little change in the generic format, of lead-in BJ->ass/vag eatout-> straight sex-> anal sex -> DP-> return to BJ-> CS. Theres a continuing overabundance of neopolitan porn, and likely why theres never enough for those seeking pussy only, or a volume of quality within the specific flavors. Personally, I've never liked neopolitan, measured out, moderated, little bit of each kinda porn. I've always wanted ONE kind, at a given time porn. The too much of a good thing, flagrant, overindulgent, highly focused sorta smut. With this, pussy lovers can have their vag onlys, ass lovers their nasty, straight to gaper Anals, and although theres plenty of oral flicks, theres always room for another sloppy swallower. Personally, I'd like to see an oral only flick, where mid BJ, one dude picks her up, and suddenly bends her over for a furious anal pound.. Porno that breaks the common rules, even if it's porn's own. The redundancy of Neo sex, is no different from married sex. IMO, all the neo sex out there, wasn't made for some silent, indecisive majority, but shoveled out by those studios, who simply have no idea, what the hell to shoot.
Edited by - Endless Loop on 2/20/2005 6:03:57 AM
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Posted - Feb 20 2005 : 6:02AM
Seems you want to start the umth discussion about anal vs vaginal, but all I can say is: Yes is has become standard! And it has become it, because that is what sells best. I am contributing to this anal with multiple partner sales rate, too. From my porn fans point of view multiple partner do give just more possibilities, while 1on1 sex is quite restricted. Sounds logical, no? I also agree with those who say the pussy was the most important female organ to them. Same is to me, but I dont need it fucked all the time, I actually enjoy it most when spread in reverse cowgirl anal or rcdap, sometimes also just solo in the tease section. I prefer it waiting exactly for my dick...
I've got nothing against multiple-partner porno, but when almost every scene is of that kind it takes the novelty out of it and makes it kinda ho-hum. There should be a judicious mix ;)
As for anal I couldn't care less if there never was another anal scene, ever.
As someone stated before, multiple partners give more possibilities. I figure that one day a porn producer wil find out all the ways there are to have enjoyable sex with only 2 people. I think the way forward is to add more to the mix, more people (hence the threesome standard), more accessible areas (introducing the anal), more sexual preferences (more bi-sexual chicks please!), and more (perverted?) fantasies.
If porn would have to simulate real sex, I would just stick to my gf.
I've just come away from watching a flick that seemed filled with threesomes male/male/female and far from adding variety it all seems more of the same. It just makes me feel tired. It'd be lovely if occasionally the two guys worked a bit more actively at the pleasure of the woman.
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Posted - Feb 21 2005 : 8:27AM
The Dark Brothers made multiple-guy scenes trendy in the 80's. They succeeded because they infused their scenes with joie de vivre.
On a personal note, I like both MFM and FMF scenes. My hope in the future is for straight porn directors to allow the men to interact with each other in the MFM scenes. It would make the scenes a lot richer.
Seems like a wide variety of what people want. There is no "standard". You just have to find ahead of time what you are looking for and hopefully it has been reviewed.
-Normal 1-1 vaginal only condom/no condom -vaginal/Anal -anal only -Multiple Girls to one guy -multiple guys to one girl -Gangbangs -multiple giys to multiple girls -Rough Anal -Double Anal -Double Vaginal -Cum Swallowing -Cum Facials -Creampies, anal creampies, vaginal creampies -asslicking of guys -deepthroating -ATP, PTA -ATM -spitting -choking -hand jobs -rough sex
There are some companies that make many One-on-One movies. But if you wanna see only 1on1 pussy-only or 1on1 anal-only, then it's (little bit) harder.
And then if you like some other ending than facial, like Swallowing or Cream pies, then it's much more harder. I know some One-on-One scenes with Swallowing ending, but almost every is POV -movie. And cream pies, there are not many One-on-One movies with cream pie ending. I know some with pussy cream pie ending, but almost all are Black girl or some POV movies. (And Randy West makes some compilations.)
I don't think there is any One-on-One movies with anal cream pie ending, i have not seen or heard.
And about Black girls, why they don't like anal that much, there are not many 1on1 Black girl anal series. My friend is looking for them all the time, same guy is looking for any One-on-One movies/Scenes with anal cream pie ending.
ps: I'dont care anal that much, if girl is right, then anal is fine. edit: Randy added.
I recently saw Black Swallow, which I can highly recommend to your friend.
Beautifull black woman (dark [;P], not the near asian looking variety), excellent camera-work (finding ways to show excellent shots of woman in the surroundings in an artfull manner, yet still get to the action quick enough, mixing the soft-focus, slow motion style on one moment, going to the well lit, detial rich shots of hardcore action), quite a few scenes as I recall, women are all dressed in latex/rubber. I have no fetish for rubber normally, but I really was in awe by the costumes. Especially the play between the collors of black skin, colorfull latex, pink pussies and white sperm was Rembrandtlike. All girls do Anal, some DP's, all facials.
OK, might be exagarating a bit, since there are not many movies featuring black women, white men doing the dirrty, I got carried away a little.
1 point of criticism, even though called Black Swallow, most girls are spitters .
The real thrust of my opening topic post was that one-on-one sex and vaginal fucking have been replaced by multiple partner and anal sex as the dominant themes in current porn. More significantly, that recent porn has become anything but one-on-one sex and vaginal fucking.
I realize that I will now be flamed with "that's what the customers want and/or are buying" responses. However, these arguments are totally off the mark.
A good analogy would be the soup aisle at the supermarket.
In an effort to squeeze every last penny out of shelf space, supermarkets now stock fewer varieties of most products. Where you used to have, let's say, 20-30 varieties of a given line of soup, now you have 6-10 choices... and "Tomato" and "Chicken Noodle" take up half the available shelf space.
Well, "if that's what people want"... but it isn't! The "Tomato" and "Chicken Noodle" cans are always filling the shelves, yet the other, although fewer, choices are always sold through or have a few scattered cans left on the shelf. (FYI, you see this same phenomena at your local stroke shop too... ever stop and think that the same titles that are always cluttering the shelves are the ones that aren't selling/renting?)
But, "we're selling more "Tomato" and "Chicken Noodle" than ever"... of course you are! The bean counters and suits at the corporate offices have forced you to buy what they want to sell you. Never mind that you wanted Manhattan-style Clam Chowder (a hard to find variety because the suits have determined that they can only devote shelf space to one clam chowder... New England style).
For too many years I have been buying/renting films with content that doesn't really interest me (like anal sex and multiple partner scenes) in order to watch anything at all. Well, no more!
The industry has turned me from a major purchaser of DVDs into a renter because it's simply not worth buying a DVD if only 10-20% of the content interests you. I'm a major Jane Darling fan and I've actually been passing on some of her more recent titles because of the dominance of anal-all-the-time-with-multiple-partners stuff she is always being cast in. Yes, she's good at it, but I'm so burned out by it. Saw a clip of her sucking on someone's toes during the cumshot... I'm going to run right out and get this one, not!
The industry seems to follow trends in lockstep with each other. They are so afraid that another line/studio/director is going to steal their customer base.
This has been further exacerbated by the influx of talentless hacks into the industry (anyone with a video camera and a few bucks) who think they are the future of porn. They are relying on "shock value," novelty and "crossing the line" to sell products because they don't have the abilities to craft porn. And, as long as giggling frat boys buy it, who cares?
Why do guys like John Leslie, Peter North, Mike Quasar, Chris Streams, Jules Jordan, etc. manage to put out porn that is always entertaining no matter what the content? This is a rhetorical question... I know many of the answers... but let's see what the shock and awe crowd have to say
There is a huge market for quality porn that is being shortchanged by the accepted misguided beliefs of what the evolving porn marketplace is saying.
This thread is not about defending one's favorite fetish. Rather, I am seeking to explore the trends and is this where we really want to be going. I don't think it is.
I want one dick per scene too, and I haven't had much trouble finding movies fitting that bill.
It depends on what studios you're paying attention to. Of the porn I've bought in the last year, I think about 10% have had a scene with 2 guys on 1 girl. Most of the scenes have been vag only too, IIRC.
I just steer clear of RLD/PXP and their ilk. Of course if your preferred stars work primarily for those companies, you're screwed.
They do have some misses too, I'd say. Anyway, don't those directors put out enough titles to fill your need for porn?
I've never really cared how many positions or what is done in the scene. I care more about if I find the girl attractive and if she puts up a good performance. There are handjob videos that are better then alot of these "hit every position with multiple guys" scenes.