So I was talking to a gay friend of mine recently, and he claimed that gay porn has much more extreme anal action than straight porn, and that it generally leads straight porn by up to 10 years or so in terms of pushing the envelope. As an example he said that ass to mouth (A2M) was prevalent in gay porn in the 1980s and early 1990s, about a decade before it became common in straight porn.
Hearing this, I got to wondering, do straight anal producers get many of their new ideas from gay porn producers? And if so, what new “extreme” anal action is currently being done in the gay porn community that might someday be imported into the straight porn world?
Unfortunately, I’m not so interested in the answer to this question that I am going to go out and by a bunch of gay porn. However, if any of you have seen any recently, or have friends who watch it, or are just plugged in enough into the porn community in general that you know what sorts of “pushing the envelope” activities are being shot there, please do enlighten us.
I could be wrong but I think straight porn is pretty much driven by what straight porn consumers want to see...or what the industry perceives that it's customers want to see.
I had fantasies about most of the stuff they're doing in porn today when I was 14. It doesn't take any special talent to come up with "extreme" sex acts. It's not that nobody ever thought of DP and the like before it became a big thing in porn. Now was just the right time for it. Next month or next year or 3 years from now, there will be something else that also isn't anything new to people who have fantasies.
I think it may also have something to do with the industry rationing their product. If they gave us everything we could ever want to see today, what would they sell us tomorrow?
I don't think straight directors sit around watching gay porn trying to come up with new ideas. If he's a man over 20, he probably has plenty of his own ideas. I think what it comes down to is that straight porn is more visible and in the spotlight than gay porn. I think a lot of directors are reluctant to be the first one to stick their neck out with something that might get them prosecuted. So, even if they have a great idea they'd love to try, they'll wait for someone else with more balls (or less brains) to do it and see if they get away with it. I think this may also be why we see so much of the same thing spread out evenly across the board. Nobody wants to be the first to take a chance with something a little more out there than everything else.
Sydnee Steele, Savanna Samson or None. 275 Posts 12/05
Posted - Feb 5 2007 : 8:58AM
Let me recommend the work of former Vivid director Chi-Chi LaRue to you. He started out directing gay porn and then moved into staight Vignette style movies. You see some things in his straight movies that I think were borrowed from gay porn. To briefly describe two:
Snapping the erect penis during oral, light slapping and pushing motions make the penis sway back and forth and up and down in between the licks and sucks.
One can also see female to male rimming in most of his movies. I know that this is a specialty in Gonzo, but he has the Vivid contract girls and notable costars doing it.
I would suggest Amber Michael's scene from 'Titsicle,' as a great example of Chi Chi's style.
Since you're not satisfied with the answers given, may I suggest that you research the question by watching gay porn? Or you could ask your gay friend to show you his collection. Just a thought....not that there's anything wrong with that.
Its not surprising that acts performed in gay porn, could preceed those same, or similiar acts appearing in straight porn by noticable margins, as I believe the man in general, with regards to most straight sexual relationships, or couplings, tends to be the more motivated, act driven partner of the two. With this assumption, the resulting effects of two gay males, would only increase the likelihood of more zealous sexplay, more often, and in the case of Gay Porn, produce a greater inclination for brevity through more extreme and arcane acts, thus making the disparity from straight porn, more pronounced.
But in the larger picture that Random Precision had earlier alluded, I too doubt very much these "ideas", surround the notion of gayness playing any advance part in their conception. These acts play into our primal nature, and trace to the stoneage of our very existence, particularly with respect to the more basic fixations. It wouldn't be hard to imagine, a primitive female, bent over while rummaging through leaves, suddenly mounted, by an overly anxious neandrathal. After a particularly brutal fucking, made ever rougher, when her resistance inadvertantly sends his plunging granite penis, into her anchient poop canal, instead of her densely thicketed love bush, he stares mystified, at her strangely compelling, and still heaving loins.
Curious by the pungent odor emanating from within, he draws close, to sniff for its exact point of origin, when to his utter surprise, a wall of caveman spunk, blasts into his face, with the fury of an erupting volcano, sending him reeling backwards, covered in a mucous-like sheet, of his own, still steaming spermatazoa, and hense, the first cumfart is born.
Interesting, I wonder how they get away with this while straight porn producers are scared sh*tless to produce this sort of thing.
Maybe its just that none of the Bush-appointed prosecutors are gay, and thus although they love culling through extreme straight movies to find stuff to "prosecute" the idea of watching endless reels of gay anal fisting just doesn't appeal to them that much.
I'll tell ya what it is. Women are always victims. I don't care what the circumstances are. If a woman puts a gun to her head and pulls the trigger, it was always a man's fault. He "willed" her to do it or something.
A woman in a porn flick doing something that's seen as particularly nasty or whatever is a poor little victim, some poor, innocent soccer mom's daughter.
What is a 25-30 year old gay dude? How are the persecutors gonna get a jury to see him as a victim when half of them are probably homophobic bigots anyway? There aren't any "victims" in gay porn and in order to get people to convict somebody, you have to make them mad enough to want revenge.
Then again...maybe they could twist it like they do everything else and put everybody involved in jail.
