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Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Feb 16 2006 : 12:50AM
Forgive me if this has been addressed here 6 million times but....

I'm slowly but surely switching over to shooting everything in HDV for the forseeable future. When the media becomes more affordable and practical for the Panasonic HVX100 I'll be switching to that camera permanently. DVCPROHD is light years beyond what Sony, Canon and JVC are doing with HDV presently but I digress....

My question is - does the average consumer - not the technologically advanced beings who frequent this forum - do they understand the difference between widescreen and anamorphic? I've shot 2 HDV movies thus far and have downconverted them both to standard widescreen. Outputting them as anamorphic is as simple as choosing the appropriate sequence preset but the concern at the company has been that the "unsophisticated user" might not understand that they need to set up their DVD player to display an anamorphic disc in letterbox on a 4:3 television if it doesn't do so automatically. Suddenly there could be a whole group of consumers believing that our discs are defective because all of the actors looked "squished".

I'm not looking for a concrete answer necessarily but some informed opinions would be much appreciated. Sooner or later everything will be HD and 16X9 will be the majority of TV sets sold in the world but until then... widescreen or anamorphic?

Edited by - Mike Quasar on Feb 16 2006

GaySatyr
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Posted - Feb 16 2006 : 1:35AM
Wouldn't it be easy enough to include an opening banner right after your logo screen proclaiming your new anamorphic technology and suggesting that people adjust their DVD players accordingly if they get squished people?

Yes, by all means, go anamorphic rather than letterboxed wide-screen.

~ GaySatyr (ABB)

MASAMUNE
Senior Member

1452 Posts
12/04
Posted - Feb 16 2006 : 1:38AM
definitely not. but the widescreen tv owners will definitely care when they pop the dvd in
most dvd players do it automatically. Most mainstream movies are anamorphic and do those end up "squished"? I think not. Unless there is some notable difference between porn dvds and mainstream dvds?
Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Feb 16 2006 : 3:33AM
I think the concern is completely unwarranted.

Unless the "unsophisticated user" only watches porn (and 4:3 TV series) on their DVD player, I should think they've figured out how to "unsquish" the picture already.

I'd be pissed if I picked up one of your movies and it was 16:9 but not widescreen. (I stopped looking at Wicked titles partly because of this.)
That is wasting a lot of pixels for no good reason. And if you do put a "Shot on HD" sticker on your DVDs it'd look amateurish beyond belief.

IOW: Go anamorphic.
If you won't do that, keep most of the action in the centre of the frame and go 4:3 full screen.

sanchez_1960
Member

582 Posts
2/03
Posted - Feb 16 2006 : 8:43AM
Hollywood DVD's are purchased in their millions around the world. 95% are anamporphic widescreen! Its not an issue with dumb users on hollywood movies so why should it be on porn?

I despise DVD's that are Widescreen but not anamporphic!

Edited by - sanchez_1960 on 2/16/2006 8:44:11 AM

 
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Feb 16 2006 : 7:27PM
You should release them anamorphically.

Even the "unsophisticated user" knows "anamorphic" is a good thing although he can't explain you why.

"Anamorphic" has somehow become a trademark for good image although its only one of a lot of factors that determine the image quality.

Edited by - juha on 2/16/2006 7:29:16 PM

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 16 2006 : 7:31PM
Pretty much everyone who owns a widescreen TV, knows the difference between anamorphic and non-anamorphic DVD's. Most people who don't own widescreen TV's don't understand anamorphic. However, as Kperv and sanchez_1960 pointed out, Hollywood is no longer releasing non-anamorphic widescreen releases. If a person is having a problem with anamorphic porn, then they are having the same problem with anamorphic mainstream.

I'd bet that releasing non-anamorphic widescreen porn would confuse these people even more. They'd be wondering why porn looks different than mainstream.

IMO, if you're shooting widescreen and not taking advantage of anamorphic processing, then you just wasted your money buying that HD camera.

Edited for spelling.

Edited by - Bill on 2/17/2006 11:54:32 PM

sanchez_1960
Member

582 Posts
2/03
Posted - Feb 17 2006 : 7:05AM
Well said Bill. Very well worded!

I'm gonna boycott any studio who doesn't do anamorphic! Everyone needs to look at Digital Playground, Excellent Video Quality, 5.1, Widescreen Anamorphic! I only wish the studio released more gonzo titles!

Edited by - sanchez_1960 on 2/17/2006 7:06:15 AM

Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Feb 17 2006 : 12:29PM
Sold. Thanks for the input.
struan
Member

SCOTLAND
242 Posts
8/02
Posted - Feb 19 2006 : 7:09AM
Personally, I would be surprised if the average (non-AV enthusiast) user has any knowledge of such technicalities – As far as I can see, they are more likely to be concerned with the full area of their screen being utilised (the ‘I paid for a widescreen TV, so I want widescreen!’ attitude), rather than displaying pictures correctly . For example, in my experience, people tend to display 4:3 DTT broadcasts full screen, rather than ‘suffer’ black bars at the sides of the picture, apparently unconcerned with correct aspect & resolution.



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