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M.B.
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Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 5:43PM
Just rented Animal Trainer #10 and was very disappointed. The first scene with Belladonna, Nacho and two other girls was awesome, but the second scene soured me on this title big time. Rocco and Rocco (Francaforte) are banging 3 beautiful girls and then Rocco brings in a 70 year old guy to get sucked off by the girls and also brings in 2 old ladies to suck off the 2 Rocco's. This was a great scene going really well and he ruins it with the geriatrics, why? Rocco ruined Animal Trainer #7 with this stuff and now again? I just don't understand what he's trying to accomplish here. This is an automatic no purchase for me, and the back of the box had no pictures of any geriatric action being in this movie. Somebody over at Evil Angel better tell Rocco to get his act together because if he keeps this up he'll lose fans and fast. I know that somebody out there must like to watch this stuff and that's great if you're into it more power to you, if I wanted to watch this kind of movie I'd go rent a granny flick, but for pete's sake spare us from watching this stuff in regular porn.
I really like a lot of Rocco's stuff but he's making it real hard to like his more recent titles. He ruined a movie that a lot of pretty girls in the first 2 scenes with this geriatric crap.
I support anyone's right to watch whatever turns them on etc, but this stuff should stay in it's own genre, the worst part is there being no indication of this type of action on the box.

Edited by - M.B. on Nov 25 2002

Brice777
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MA
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Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 6:01PM
M.B. I AgRee wit YoU CoMpLeTely..Wasn't GoinG to comment...But what duh heck man.............I luv Rocco have ALL his WORK..And yea the ScEne with Belladonna was AWESUM she is A JEWEL........Im thinking maybe Animal TRAINER # 11 will be SHot in a Nursing Home! later Guys
PornManiac
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aka Steve K
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Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 6:30PM
LOL - good stuff Brice. Rocco is a strange guy...maybe he likes geezer's.
skronker
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Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 6:54PM
I think it's kind of humorous.
lou sapphire
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Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 10:14PM
hey dont knock it!
when your 70 you'll sell your soul to get sucked off by three hot chicks!!!
 
The_Poker
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 1:46AM
I think adding older people to a scene can increase the 'kinkyness' factor sometimes. I would expect that is what Rocco is trying to accomplish.

Like anything in porn though, what is wrong with having older talent in regular porn? Some of us like anal in our movies, some don't...some like orgies, others don't. We don't hear people wanting to ban anal in mainstream porn because they dont like it.

We all have different tastes, if you don't like it skip the scene or don't get the movie at all. It's a fairly safe bet that a Rocco movie will always have something that not everyone is comfortable with.

Perhaps older people in porn is a bit more common in Europe, and since Rocco is European that might explain it a little.

skronker
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 3:08AM
Hey ... give 'em credit for even showing up!
It is damn freaky ... but it's not if you're 70!
And we will be one day if we're lucky, and how much luckier could you be than to have Rocco invite you to sample some nubile Euro-flesh?

It's different ... but it's not uncool.

simonster
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 3:49AM
well, it's not exactly the first time he pulls off sumtin like that. actually, if you pay close attention you might even recognize some of the 'old folks' from roccos earlier works. i guess it's just another way for rocco to boast with his depraved mind. har har. btw, it's FRANCO roccaforte, not rocco. cheers.
M.B.
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 8:46AM
Like I said in my earlier post, if you're into that stuff that's great, but I'm not (at least not until I'm 70).
There is no indication on the box that this movie had this in it, if it did I would have not even bothered to rent it. To me, it ruined what could have been a great flick.
MLyons
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 10:01AM
I don't know... it may not be on the boxcover, but Rocco's been doing this kind of stuff for a long while. Some of the men jacking off onto Amanda Angel and Catherine Count's faces in AT4 weren't exactly young and spry either. Nor were many of those teamed up with Kelly Stafford in Rocco's Way to Love if I remember correctly. He's certainly getting more adventurous with it, and I for one don't mind it too much as long as it doesn't go too far in getting in the way. Sometimes, for me, it can even enhance. It's too bad you didn't see my review of AT10 before you rented it. You might have saved yourself the money.

However, (and this is just a general statement, not a reaction to you M.B.) I'm against the idea of catagorizing everything down to the nth degree. The beauty of erotic entertainment is in it's variety, and the creativity involved in finding new (or rediscovering old) ways to turn us on. I don't want the whole of the porn world to turn into minutely themed specialty series that focus on one act or theme to the exclusion of all else, much like most of what Red Light District is doing. The way things are going, before long we'll have series called, "Tiny white American Chicks Who Take Three Black Cocks of size 9" or Longer Anally in the Reverse Cowgirl Position Followed by Ass to Mouth, a Piledriver, one Cream Pie, one Facial, and a Large Gooey Load Swallowed with Post Cum Head, a Smile and a Wave". It's not natural... it's by the numbers sex and starts to bleed what's truly erotic away from porn. Granted sometimes this interest in variety can be hit or miss, but I don't mind taking that chance if it means the development of a scene that's truly special--that you would never otherwise see in todays world of formulated porn. As controversial as she might be, this is why I'm closely following what Mason is doing. She seems interested in taking a step back, having some guts and giving some thought to what she's producing. She's not going to hit a home run every time, but she's taking chances. Furthermore, I don't think her motivations are just to shock. There are many others, old and new, who do this and I'm certainly not saying otherwise, but I'm concerend about the direction I see a lot of today's porn moving in. That's just my opinion though.

Simonster,

Franco Roccaforte and Rocco Siffredi are two completely separate people. We are talking about Rocco. Franco happens to be cast by Rocco in his videos on a fairly regular basis, but they are not the same person.

Mike L.

Edited by - MLyons on 11/26/2002 10:04:44 AM

Edited by - MLyons on 11/26/2002 10:15:33 AM

simonster
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 10:06AM
oh, believe me, i know. i was referring to "Rocco and Rocco (Francaforte) are banging 3 beautiful girls ...". but thanks.
MLyons
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 10:08AM
Ah, I see what you mean now. Forgive me, Simonster. My mistake.

Mike L.

simonster
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 10:17AM
no prob there. your post concerning variety in porn and taking risks brings up stuff i been thinking about lately too. while i actually find stuff like the geezers mentioned a turnoff, i must admit it was a moment of "what the heck?!" whereas lots of titles have a hard time creating a spark of interest. as long as it's just for the effect, i'm game.
Gabriel Nine
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Firecracker
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 10:18AM
Even longer than that. Sandy Insatiable for example - there's a scene with a roomful of old chaps. And so on.
I think Sbando once said there was a Rocco movie entirely about older folks, but that it was only available in Italy. Not sure on that...refresh my memory? Or perhaps better not.

Then there were the ones about Real Italian Swingers (Rocco, Ti Presento Mia Moglie in Italy). Old factory workers loitering with intent too, in the hat factory scenes in Rocco's Initiations, and True Anal Stories 12.

Edited by - Gabriel Nine on 11/26/2002 10:18:48 AM

M.B.
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 12:43PM
I know he's been doing this for a long time (with the old people thing). It's the main reason I didn't like Sandy Insatiable stuff, Dirty Anal Kelly In Rome #2 (which by the way had the biggest group of the most disgusting looking people I have ever seen in a movie, homeless people, fat old guys, how this movie ever saw the light of day still amazes me, and the fact that they wasted the talents of Kelly in it is even more amazing).
I really like Mason's stuff for Elegant Angel, but at least she shoots decent looking people, I have to draw the line somewhere in the looks department, especially if I'm going to spend money on porn, I want to see some decent if not beautiful looking people fuck, not some old fat dirty homeless people. I'll go rent an Extreme Associates title if I ewant to see that
 
Gabriel Nine
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Firecracker
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Posted - Nov 26 2002 : 4:59PM
MB, I take your point. I wish he wouldn't do it too. Especially since he's mainly left the desire to shock and outrage behind, which is really the answer to your question "why" - Rocco certainly wasn't immune to this characteristic.
Nonetheless, I shall still be interested to see AT10 for myself (talking about movies I haven't seen is a habit I criticise others for so...enough!)
Mason
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Posted - Nov 27 2002 : 4:56PM
MLyons wrote: It's not natural... it's by the numbers sex and starts to bleed what's truly erotic away from porn.

I usually refer to this type of erotica as "stick figure porn." Just get some objects together and fill in the holes. Creativity is a must, something out of the ordinary, and that's why Rocco's so cool. Shit, that last scene at the moto raceway blew me away. In my mind I kept thinking, oh no way, no way, they're not going to do all those guys, oh my gosh they are! It was great. Yeah, the geezer thing was kinda wierd, but it was different, and that's a rarity today. Go Rocco, go.

skronker
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Posted - Nov 27 2002 : 11:44PM
Mason,

I'm inclined to agree. Why be predictable? Sure, it's a little weird ... but so is sex. Sometimes, something glimpsed in a Rocco title can be shocking and, unfortunately wilting, but just as often his taste for weirdness and pushing the boundaries of mainstream, hetero-porn rewards you with an unexpected erotic jolt you never knew you could get from mere video voyeurism.

RoccoFan
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Posted - Nov 29 2002 : 5:28AM
I tend to like it when he brings in the older folks. He executes it better in some flicks better than others, but it's a plus in my book.

What I didn't like is that the younger of the two older women in that second scene in AT#10 didn't get fucked. I think that would have been nice.

Overall, this installment wasn't as good as those in the past, and I say that mainly because of the last scene with Kelly. Piss poor cockmanship in that scene.

Boat Drinks!!!

RoccoFan




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