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Smartycookie2
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169 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 3:45PM
There are two types of porn out there. There is the bright light hearted kind which aspires to evoke the best angels of our nature by featuring two beautiful people making love. However, there is also a darker side to the male fantasy world. A side which revolves around the use and exercise of power over others in a nietzchian sense. Its pointless for us to deny this element of our beings, and I respect porn directors who are fully honest with their attempt to satiate this dark side.

There are always debates about which director is the most innovative (or crazy?) in this regard.

Personally I'd nominate Simon Thaur for the most depraved (but interesting) porn guy in the world. He seems to press the limits and push porn into new areas more than anyone else on either side of the Atlantic:

Nearly every single scene in every movie has:

1) Dominant scary looking men and beautiful sub women
2) Lots of anal sex
3) Plenty of humiliation and pussy torture (I'm talking really pussy torture here)
4) Public sex and flashing
5) Anal fisting, Piss, and scat eating (as a means for sub women to compete against each other for sub status).
6) In the end , An entire creepy mood created by innovative lighting and plot lines.

In a word, he presses the limits, but he presses the limits artfully.

The man almost reminds me of the Marquis de Sade. He revels in pure and utter indulgence of the most sadistic habits imaginable, but somehow he manages to turn his exploits into a sort of poetry (though admittedly a very strange sort of poetry). He's a post apocoliptic porn meastro, and its strange that he hasn't been more widely heralded.

At any rate, thats my nomination for the most creative (ahead of his time) porn director in the world.

Do you disagree? Or do you believe there is someone else who wins the gold "most sadistic f+ck" award?

jake malone
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530 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 5:01PM
Hey smartycookie, Where can I find/buy this guys stuff?
Walter Burns
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11/02
Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 6:04PM
Yes.



Svigor said:
"That sounds pretty tedious, even more tedious than developing an encyclopedic knowledge of talent."
(No comment.
- Pssst, Walter, when you say "no comment", haven't you made one already?)
Smartycookie2
Member

169 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 9:48PM
Unfortunately Jake, the guy is European and its hard to find his stuff in the USA. I've acquired a lot of ST content by trading. Does anyone know of places where Simon Thaur videos are widely available for sale to Americans at reasonable prices?

(Jake, one place I can recommend off the top of my head is http://www.hwvmedia.com, but watch out. They sell a lot of stuff that is even more hardcore than Thaur;)

minbari
Member

76 Posts
2/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 12:34PM
I agree that Simon Thaur is one of the most creative people doing extreme porn today. I don't get a sense of real malice from his work however. I get the impression that he is winking at our repressions - his work is actually very funny and playful (then again, I could be missing something - I don't speak german).

Check out his fan site at:

http://www.innovative-productions.de

Also, I think he owns the Kit Kat Club in Berlin:

http://www.Kitkatclub.de

Regards.

 
Steve Holmes
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1235 Posts
12/02
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 4:06PM
Simon is a great guy. I know him for about 10 years and I always go to his club when I'm in Berlin. The KitKat Club is great.

I'm absolutely not into scat, humiliation or torture. But I really enjoy what he shoots in his club or during the Love Parade. This are reportages what really happens. No performers, no contracts or money paid to anybody. In America they would sue the shit out of him.

Most of his staff cannot be legally sold in USA. It's either to hard or there is no legal documentation.

Steve Holmes

eduardo911
Senior Member

1299 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 6:44PM
I don't care for his scat stuff at all, but Thaur does make some good, non-standard stuff. Particularly I sometimes like the way he interacts with his models. Bea (or "Schnuckel Bea") who also played in a number of GGG/666/John Thompson movies, comes across much more
natural, relaxed and spontaneous in Thaur's work.

She is great in Experiment: ausgeliefert sein 40 - Dankbare Girls im Dauereinsatz. And there are some good scenes in Avantgarde Extreme 34 and 35. If they would only leave the scat stuff out.


Edited by - eduardo911 on 1/10/2005 6:46:05 PM

licker
Senior Member

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1141 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 9:12PM
I liked Avantgarde Extreme 34.

There was no pain or humiliation type stuff in it. That would have put me off.

Smartycookie2
Member

169 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 10:49AM
Two thoughts. First, there aren't any fan sites in English are there? Its a pity I can't read German.

2) I've copied a list of his series titles off the website. Would anyone care to comment on the characteristics of and differences between his distinct series's?

AVANTGARDE EXTREM (erscheint seit März 2000 )
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge, Darstellern & kleiner "Inhaltsangabe"

3 BENGEL FÜR CHARLY (erscheint seit Februar 2003 )
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge & Darstellern


BREAKING TABOOS (erschien von März 1999 bis Dezember 2001)
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge & Darstellerinnen


EXPERIMENT:AUSGELIEFERT SEIN ! (erscheint seit März 1999)
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge, Darstellern & kleiner "Inhaltsangabe"


DAS HAUS HEDONIA (erschien von Dezember 2000-März 2002)
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge, Darstellern & kleiner "Inhaltsangabe"

PORTRAIT EXTREM (erscheint seit September 2002 unregelmäßig)
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge& Darstellerinnen


SEX TRANCE BIZARRE (erschien von März 1999- Juli 2003)
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge und Covertext


SONDERFILME: Love Parade & Trailer

minbari
Member

76 Posts
2/03
Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 7:38PM
what follows is just a generalization ...

Avatgarde Extreme - is Scat and plot oriented.

3 Bengel fur Charlie - is a casting couch satire with piss

Breaking Taboos - is very public nudity

Experiment etc. - is typically heavy gonzo piss ending in splosh action at the Kit Kat Club

Haus Hedonia - a short lived series that featured the scat and piss antics of dictatorial "King Taurus".

Portrait Extreme - Various intense scat and piss action.

Sex Trance Bizarre - erotic action at the Kit Kat Club set to a heavy beat.

Unsure of the last.

eduardo911
Senior Member

1299 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 7:41PM
Sorry I hadn't noticed that the question had already been replied to by Minbari, but I'll let my comments stand as I wrote them.
AVANTGARDE EXTREM (erscheint seit März 2000 )
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge, Darstellern & kleiner "Inhaltsangabe"
I've only seen a few titles. These are 'feature' movies (there's usually a story line) contain regular sex, pissing and scat. The stories are sometimes quite funny.


3 BENGEL FÜR CHARLY (erscheint seit Februar 2003 )
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge & Darstellern
A casting series, usually with 2 girls. Regular sex, small-scale gangbangs, pissing.


BREAKING TABOOS (erschien von März 1999 bis Dezember 2001)
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge & Darstellerinnen
Public nudity, often in groups, girls wearing kinky outfits and/or genital piercings with elaborate chains, weights and whatnot, nipple clamps, that kind of thing.


EXPERIMENT:AUSGELIEFERT SEIN ! (erscheint seit März 1999)
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge, Darstellern & kleiner "Inhaltsangabe"


DAS HAUS HEDONIA (erschien von Dezember 2000-März 2002)
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge, Darstellern & kleiner "Inhaltsangabe"
Feature series with a storyline of sorts, or rather a situation/vignette.

PORTRAIT EXTREM (erscheint seit September 2002 unregelmäßig)
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge& Darstellerinnen
Casting/single girl oriented with interview segments between sex, focusing on what the girls likes and why. Also pissing and scat.


SEX TRANCE BIZARRE (erschien von März 1999- Juli 2003)
alle Titel mit Erscheinungsdatum, Format, Länge und Covertext
Never seen one, the covers suggest sex parties at Berlin clubs. Atmosphere is kinda like house/rave party, but with open/group sex.

SONDERFILME: Love Parade & Trailer
Special movies.I think the Love Parade is a public event in Germany, but I don't know any particulars. Trailer (plural in this context) is self-explanatory.

Edited by - eduardo911 on 1/13/2005 7:43:17 PM

Smartycookie2
Member

169 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jan 14 2005 : 8:04AM
I've acquired a number of Kit Kat videos over the years, but am interested in getting more by buying or trading. Does anyone know where these vids are available in the USA at a reasonable price?
(or anyone interested in trading?)
Smartycookie2
Member

169 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jan 14 2005 : 8:09AM
Oh,
and out of interest. Why is Simon Thaur seemingly alone in his type of production? Are there any other Euro serieses that combine either hardcore S&M and anal or scat and anal?

I've seen plenty of movies with pissing and anal, but
I'm always surprised that the S&M and scat movies I see almost never have any anal sex in them (which is what makes thaur so distinctive).

By the way. Although I love a lot of it, the most amazing Kit Kat stuff I have ever seen was a series of double anal fistings in Avantegarde Extrem 5. The girls were very pretty and willing. I wonder where Thaur finds them.

bigbuttlover
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Los Angeles
253 Posts
4/03
Posted - Jun 25 2005 : 11:11PM
Is there any dirty a2m in his movies?
tmd5
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seika izumi
502 Posts
6/04
Posted - Jun 26 2005 : 8:43PM
I've tried to find his titles, but gave up. Doing a search on Google pretty much comes up with nothing. The only place that sells his stuff is pirated video sources. Two i've found, but I have no interest in low quality crap for $30.

I saw screenshots of his pissing films, they look interesting. The only thing is that i'm nearly sure they have scat in them. This means I would not ever think about buying them. If they had JUST a pissing line without pussy torture and scat i'd buy them. I'm not into torture at all. Sticking needles and stuff into woman and making blood come out is just wrong. Don't tell me that's no worse than regular piercing. Or it's OK because the woman want it. I love Japanese bondage, but not blood and the needle thing.

I've seen screenshots and even movie clips of his anal fisting titles. They look very good, if extremely painful. There's no way that can't hurt by the looks of it! It's rare to see a man fist woman in the ass.

 
Smartycookie2
Member

169 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jun 29 2005 : 8:34AM
Bigbutlover and tmd5,

I think that Thaur really has stuff for both of you.
THe Berliner Avantegarde Extreme and the Haus Hedonia Series tend to have harder core action including dirty anal and dirty ass to mouth (as well as a bit of scat).

In contrast, the Experiment Ausgelefert stuff only has light S&M (no pussy piercing, just clamps etc.) and a whole bunch of pissing.

Hope that helps.

buffi
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100 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jun 29 2005 : 8:47AM
http://www.innovative-productions.de/index.html
mediasmarts2
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306 Posts
8/06
Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 10:42AM
Is there anywhere to get Kit Kat / Subway Movies (especially Berliner Avantgarde Extreme, Portrait Extreme, and Sex Trance Bizarre) at a reasonable price within the USA? (I know there are a number of European websites that sell them, but I was hoping there were some within the USA that sell them).
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 2:40PM
mod: Since you've reactivated the other "Kit Kat" related thread with the same question, I'm locking this one.
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