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| NeonToastForaWhiteGhost Deactivated User 32 Posts 6/11 | Can anyone elaborate on how how she was convinced to headline a site where she basically fucked dudes she may have never even talked to otherwise. I know money talks and such but this 'experiment' seems a bit more complex than that. Spring Thomas was a benchmark of sorts and there has to be a ton of good stories/information. Where did she come from? Was she a student,middle class,prostitute ect...I heard something about her having a bad drinking problem at one point which I can believe because she looked TERRIBLE at some points on the site...Anyone know how she felt about the disgusting racist nature of the site? How did she feel about and interact with her fellow performers behind the scenes ect. Anything you can offer will be good as the lady is somewhat of an urban legend at this point. I've heard stories that she has half Black twins. Stories that she hates Black people ect. Yada.. I suppose I could direct this to Billy Watson but the guy doesn't really come across as all that genuine to me. Look at the sites he works for.... Hopefully others can share anything they know. I'm interested in quality not quantity. I'd rather have 2 great responses than 40 with people talking a lot of shit and not really saying anything. Edited by - neontoastforawhiteghost on Jun 5 2011 [Link] |
| jizzyjay Member 914 Posts 10/07 | |
| NeonToastForaWhiteGhost Deactivated User 32 Posts 6/11 | |
| billybob Senior Member I don't like condoms in porn. 1115 Posts 9/10 | |
| Minion Member 123 Posts 3/10 | TheMinion.com |
| billybob Senior Member I don't like condoms in porn. 1115 Posts 9/10 | |
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| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | I'm just curious. More of a rhetorical question than anything else. BTW I met ST in a coffee shop after she had performed for SweetApples and Amateur Allure, and I hired her for Spunkmouth, which was my very first adult site. ST had answered an ad I placed in The Phoenix New Times; she had a few scenes under her belt and wanted more. After that I introduced her to my boss who owns BlacksOnBlondes. He shot her 2 times for his site and then contracted her to be Spring Thomas. From January 2004 to the summer of 06, ST performed in 135 scenes (give or take) and really liked being ST. The scenarios for the site came from our boss. ST decided her time as ST was over, and she quit. We always told her she could be ST as long as she wanted to be ST, and she was. Post ST is when she no longer was a public figure, and I won't talk about that in this arena. I think I'll save it for a book...if I ever get around to that madness. To address you directly, ST doesn't have "half Black twins", she went through some party phases during her stint as ST, and the "disgusting racist nature" was all an act -- just like all porno is, my friend. I might add the black male talent loved being called the N word during sex, and the ones who didn't like it didn't have to endure it. I don't think ST hates black people now, but I have no idea, really. Hope this was one of the two "great" responses you were after. And it is genuine...whether you choose to believe it or not. Your pal -- Billy |
| jizzyjay Member 914 Posts 10/07 | |
| billybob Senior Member I don't like condoms in porn. 1115 Posts 9/10 | |
| NeonToastForaWhiteGhost Deactivated User 32 Posts 6/11 | That makes it ok? Many of those scenarios are dehumanizing Black males as oversexed animals. That's what most of so called 'interracial' porn is about. It often seems to be about anything but showing a nice good fuck between two or more people. Isn't your boss Jewish? If anyone would have an idea of what can happen when people allow others to be dehumanized I think it would be Jews. What he is doing is unconscionable. Your implicit in it as well but I guess it's too much to hope that someone who shoots fucking for a living actually possess any actual ethics. Spare me the nonsense about it's not hurting anyone. Evidently your and your boss shoot that trash because it feeds into the warped psyche of quite a few who have no desire to view Blacks as human,or healthy sexual creatures. You jerks are soulless. |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Why as Dogfart not created a new site with a different Spring Thomas like character? I would think there is money to be made with that. You could then add a sister or cousing to said new character like they diud with Katies Thomas character. Edited by - pat362 on 6/6/2011 9:14:46 PM |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 |
She is on DVD, and new DVD's with her are being released on a fairly consistent basis. I think the name of her line is "True IR Whores" but I might be wrong. |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 |
BarbCummings and RuthBlackwell were our other contract stars. |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 |
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| NeonToastForaWhiteGhost Deactivated User 32 Posts 6/11 | |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 |
I never quite understand dudes like you. Bash the shit out of the sites you obviously jerk to. You may not like the content, but you do enough to pay attention to it, and, after you've dropped your load, you gear up The Hate Machine. If you don't like the content, move on. It's that simple. If you like the content but don't want to admit it, then so be it. Or, be it so. As for my soul, or lack there of, or how genuine I may or may not be, or my ethics, or lack of moral character...well, judging me would be the same as me judging you, which would be a silly thing to do, cause what you know about me is about the same as what I know about you. Which is to say, almost nothing. I know you hate the content I shoot, and you know what kind of content I shoot. That's that. So move on. Talk up the sites you love, and the stars you love, and leave it at that. Time to quit being so angry. Nothing comes of it. |
| NeonToastForaWhiteGhost Deactivated User 32 Posts 6/11 | Not true. The reason I didn't even direct the question to your thread was because I never expected to get a straight answer from you. I spent a few hours reading your blog one night. Half of it was good. The other bit seemed to be you trying to create this neo-noir character out of yourself. You mostly seemed to skirt questions and avoid giving any really detailed answers. The knowledge is out there and the questions are usually better answered by civilians who don't feel like,or act like they have something to hide. "I never quite understand dudes like you. Bash the shit out of the sites you obviously jerk to. You may not like the content, but you do enough to pay attention to it, and, after you've dropped your load, you gear up The Hate Machine." That's a hell of a generalization. You don't know what I jerk to. I do however know that you support racism,even if it's just in the interest of commerce. Seriously. Supporting dehumanizing racism so someone can make money. There is nothing wrong with that on any level? o-O "If you don't like the content, move on. It's that simple." Or I could question it and ask why Whites are making a site where they are deliberately race baiting and making Blacks like look thugs,animals,psuedo rapists and just about anything other than normal healthy sexual beings. I could also ask if that is the only way the larger customer base is capable of achieving sexual satisfaction. I could also ask why the site can't simply show Black on White sex without constantly striving to make something about it seem unnatural and despicable? That kind of racism wherever it exists should be questioned,period. People who are willing to use ugly stereotypes and racial agitation to MAKE MONEY would appear to lack scruples,honour and any sense of decency. Dangerous people they are. I'm well aware you don't care as most on this site won't either. I'm still questioning it anyway,because it's wrong. "If you like the content but don't want to admit it, then so be it. Or, be it so." I like tone on tone sex and I also like contrast sex. What I don't like is people using racism and dehumanization as sexual stimulants then acting righteously indignant when someone calls them on their bullshit. I do not jerk off to colour baiting porn. "As for my soul, or lack there of, or how genuine I may or may not be, or my ethics, or lack of moral character...well, judging me would be the same as me judging you, which would be a silly thing to do, cause what you know about me is about the same as what I know about you." I'm no better than you. As I said though. You do appear to support racism as an economic model. That says something about you that is not all good. A lot of you porn people really need to read some of Tyler Knights' writing. The guy came across as a jerk a lot but at least he owned it. He realized who and what he was. He was even bold enough to call himself out more than a few times about his attitudes and some of the possible wrong he was contributing to in porn. That's honorable at least. If porn had more guys like him and less like you and your racist boss the business as a whole would probably be a lot better. "Time to quit being so angry. Nothing comes of it." Anger is a gift. Harnessed it can bring about change for the better. Thanks for your time. |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Well how about that! You did! "You mostly seemed to skirt questions and avoid giving any really detailed answers." I'd ask for examples, but that could get really time consuming. The only questions I don't anwer have to do with the privacy of the performers or my own. And no, I've got absolutely nothing to hide. "That's a hell of a generalization. You don't know what I jerk to." You've never jerked to ST? Rhetorical, of course. And I'm not the only one making generalizations in this thread. "I do however know that you support racism,even if it's just in the interest of commerce." This is akin to saying Quentin Tarantino supports violence and murder...just look at his movies! Even if it's just in the interest of commerce. (And no, I'm not putting myself on any sort of "level". I shoot porn; I don't make art. "Or I could question it and ask why Whites are making a site where they are deliberately race baiting and making Blacks like look thugs,animals,psuedo rapists and just about anything other than normal healthy sexual beings." Funny how that works, huh? Kinda the same way black rappers to the same, exact thing...cause that's what sells. Unfortunate, isn't it? "What I don't like is people using racism and dehumanization as sexual stimulants then acting righteously indignant when someone calls them on their bullshit." Make no mistake about it, I'm not self-righteous...or indignant. I'm a pornographer, and I create pornography my producer asks for, cause his members ask for it. That's all. "I'm still questioning it anyway,because it's wrong." Then don't support it. If enough people feel the same way you do...it'll go away. Kinda like Glen Beck. "Anger is a gift. Harnessed it can bring about change for the better." I wholly disagree with you. Anger can be a catalyst, but it's certainly not a gift. Most people can't harness even the tiniest bit of their anger in any sort of constructive way, but they certainly can destroy. And that's that! Thanks for your time, kind sir!
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| Anus Member 69 Posts 5/11 | As for harnessing anger to bring about positive change... I disagree with that notion. I hope you will pardon me for using a quote that you may find offensive (I'm not racist in the least; I'm white with black friends IRL). It illustrates my thoughts on this subject very well: There was a young lady from Niger, Who smiled as she rode on a tiger. They returned from the ride With the lady inside, And the smile on the face of the tiger. Once you believe that you have a rein on your anger, you should do your best to subdue it and leave it behind. It's too unpredictable to be controlled. Just my 2 cents. |
| NeonToastForaWhiteGhost Deactivated User 32 Posts 6/11 | "Well how about that! You did!" I did,and I thanked you for it. "only questions I don't ask have to do with the privacy of the performers." That's understandable I wouldn't expect questions of that nature to be answered. "You've never jerked to ST? Rhetorical, of course. And I'm not the only one making generalizations in this thread." Of course. The one that is most memorable to me is when she was in this gym with Byron long? She still seemed to have some air of innocence,as much as a porn chick can anyway. It all seemed like a new experience for her and it was one of the few times I saw her display any real seemingly unguarded emotion,including the "How the fuck did I get HERE?" look when she was blowing him. She put some real gusto into that BJ too. She used a soft voice and there was not a lot of over the top racist crap. She was raw and not acting in that scene it appeared. That scene is golden. Then the site had to degenerate into some horrid sociological RIDICULOUSNESS. Who made the decision to change it from that to the 'other stuff?' "This is akin to saying Quentin Tarantino supports violence and murder...just look at his movies! Even if it's just in the interest of commerce. (And no, I'm not putting myself on any sort of "level". I shoot porn; I don't make art." Exactly,if Quentin can hide behind the 'art' excuse what can you hide behind? I'd have a lot more respect if you just admitted it. Are you seriously trying to give yourself a pass because it's 'scripted?' It's racism all day dude,and you're involved. For the record I think Tarantino is a 'cut and paste' hack. "Funny how that works, huh? Kinda the same way black rappers to the same, exact thing...cause that's what sells. Unfortunate, isn't it?" Wow. You're actually using that as your excuse? You're admitting you're willing to resort to lowest common denominator tactics to make a profit and it's ok because 'Blacks do it?' So you're either willing to compromise your ethics or you simply lack them. We can agree to disagree but to anyone who is not porn biased,or racist it's very obvious that you are also a very big part of the problem. Tyler Knight mentioned his encounter with racism and Spring Thomas in his writings. Would you be willing to expound on that? If what he said was true then someone hit him with a really low blow. "Make no mistake about it, I'm not self-righteous...or indignant. I'm a pornographer, and I create pornography my producer asks for, cause his members ask for it. That's all." Are you outing your larger customer base as racist? Don't stop now. Give some of these people who constantly try to deny the racist nature of many porn consumers a bit of food for thought. I'm just tired of people trying to deny it,veil,it rationalize it.whatever. can you just call it what it is? "Then don't support it. If enough people feel the same way you do...it'll go away. Kinda like Glen Beck." Glen Beck and a lot of his cronies probably watch the porn you produce. "I wholly disagree with you. Anger can be a catalyst, but it's certainly not a gift. Most people can't harness even the tiniest bit of their anger in any sort of constructive way, but they certainly can destroy." Most people can't but some can. It's a gift for me because it inspires me to act in a constructive manner. That may at times amount to an exercise in futility but other times the unexpected can happen,in a good way. I don't believe in destroying things |
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| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 |
I used to be surprised people take porn so seriously. Not anymore. |
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| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Did he nuke himself? I dunno what the rules & regs are around this place, but if he got deactivated for this thread, I find that silly. I don't think he crossed any lines. I'm not a racist. I'd like that to go on the record, as well as I can understand how some people feel I am by the movies I make. The scene you're referring to...the scene with Byron on the gym, was her first scene ever shot for her site. Just FYI. Producers make all final decisions on how a movie is to be made. Which is to say I'm not pointing fingers. I've never read Tyler's blog on his ST shoot. I have read one entry and found it so unbelievably conceited that I couldn't finish the entry. I can't speak for Blacks on Blondes' customer base, but a LOT of the hate mails that are vile and racist come from the members' area. Finally, I'll admit to perpetuating a lot of myths about black males -- from penis size to the way society perceives them. What I find hard to believe is people actually buy into it. But, like I say in my blog's heading: Eh...it's a living. Edited by - billywatson on 6/8/2011 1:46:03 AM |
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