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DarkPlaces
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Posted - Jun 29 2008 : 1:52AM
How many times had you seen someone like Manuel, who pretty much has a beer can in terms of girth, go from initial penetration to non-stop pounding? While I'm sure there are some girls who love it, I'm equally sure there are many who don't. Ironically, I can remember his wife, Dana Vespoli, saying in many scenes, "Go slow." In White Booty Worship there is the rare gonzo scene where a woman isn't relentlessly pounded. Flower Tucci gets a even paced anal stroke from Jean-Claude Baptiste and simply cannot stop squirting. And this occurs without her even touching herself. It was a refreshing change of pace and I wouldn't mind seeing more of it.
Derek117
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Posted - Jun 29 2008 : 11:01AM
I call it "mechanical" fucking. Most of the time, the guy doesn't even look like he's enjoying himself. And the girl pretending to enjoy it, usually looks fake. But, I get it: many fans & directors see this as good "porn sex." I see it as another sign that porn is becoming more and more "impersonal."
Cumwhipper
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Posted - Jun 29 2008 : 11:12AM
As far as sex goes, I understand that it's literally different strokes for different folks, but for me, slower is almost always sexier than faster. I agree, there's tons of "mechanical fucking" in porn - Manuel, John Strong, Erik Everhard being among the leading exponents. It bores me.
Lange
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Posted - Jun 29 2008 : 11:15AM
I like it when the male performer changes the tempo during a scenes. If it's only slow or fast all the time it gets boring.
SaraJayFan
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Posted - Jun 29 2008 : 12:24PM
I don't mind the relentless pounding, if it's done right. Frequently, the dude starts going at it and the chick is yells "yes! fuck meeee!" and then he stops. I prefer some variety too, don't get me wrong. I just wished that whatever they did it was done with passion and gusto.
 
kristielove
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Posted - Jun 30 2008 : 4:33PM
I'll give you Everhard (but isn't that his schtick?...) John Strong (even though he's a great friend) but I think lumping Manuel in there is WRONG! Yeah he gives it hard (something most women want a little more of, ya know keeping a rythem going, instead of the pump pump pump, stop...pump, pump, slow down that most "average Joe's give us!) Manuel does A LOT more than just pumping, and ALOT more than the "mish, cowgirl, reverse, bj, spoon" dance too!!! That's why most girls list him as their fave performer! This is NOT just cuz he's my boss either, I've worked onset with ALOT of performers and I just had to say, he puts a lot more into his scenes than most porn dudes!!! Yes I'm bias but I'm also a veteran around here!!
Jethro
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Why so serious?
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Posted - Jun 30 2008 : 6:00PM
I think Manuel puts some variety in his scenes. And the women look like they're enjoying it (considering it's a job).
But I won't get anything with Erik Everhard in it anymore, and I haven't for a long time now. Nothing against the guy personally. He seems like a nice dude in BTS, but I can't take the hundred mile an hour pumping all the time. Boring.
celtic1979
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Posted - Jun 30 2008 : 6:05PM
On our wallets and purses?
Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Jun 30 2008 : 8:20PM
Agreed on Erik Everhard. Haven't bothered to watch a scene with him in it for a long time. I have to be really into the girl if I'm going to suffer through his brand of "fucking." The same goes for Tony T. I don't think every girl in the world enjoys being screwed in the exact same fashion but you'd never know it by watching these two.
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Keni
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Posted - Jul 1 2008 : 12:58PM
Hiya guys,
I'm definitely agreeing with most of the posts here... Variety is the key.
From the performers point of view we, and I think this should go for girls as well as guys? Well I think we should all be striving to find the balance. It is some where between doing what is 'real' and feels good to you, so that the scene maintains as much realism as possible. And on the other hand being as flexible as possible for any director and in any scenario is important too.
IMHO being able to do this is what makes a great performer and actually, personally I would call Manuel one of the great performers. Perhaps though when we have seen a lot... and I mean loads! of one actor, well then the scenes can easily blend into one another and you forget the variety of performances that the person can do? I dunno?
Both when I am working or when I am watching porn, I love to see the 'game' between the guy and the girl. It can be slow fucking or all out nasty, like someone said, as long as its done right. When its believable I think its great, watching real pleasure in the scene is hot! and that can be in any style or at any speed.
What I dont like though and I have been guilty of it too when I was starting out, I hate to watch a scene that is like porn by numbers. It stays to the normal format and before you know it the 'mechanic' pounding begins and it dont stop! lol! Its almost painful to watch sometimes, but not cos the intensity of the fucking but because of the lack of feeling! That really sucks.
Just some guy with an injected dick hammering a chick that doesnt want to be there... (no this is gonna cause shit but...) and in my honest opinion as a viewer, thats the way I saw porn going and especially US material? Ooops?
So anyways, on that note i'm outta here, sorry that I felt the need to go on so long but I am waiting for a scene to finish and I'm bored! lol!
Keni
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ntfighter
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Posted - Jul 2 2008 : 5:00PM
Interesting view on the subject of pounding from Vanessa Blue:
The following is from an article/interview that was done by HIPHOPDX.com with Vanessa Blue:
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DX: What types of scenes are ideal for you?
VB: Female aggressive, where the girl is doing the most work and the guy just holds on for the ride. I don’t like watching the guys power-fuck the girls.
DX: Why?
VB: That’s not real sex. It’s a show. I’m not saying I got a big ol’ pussy, but, I was with Lex. When you have a guy just pounding and banging at you with no reason and no purpose, it’s not enjoyable. A woman who has had sex can look on screen and see that a woman isn’t enjoying it. I think the only person who can enjoy a girl getting pounded is that misogynistic guy. I don’t believe there’s that many of them buying it. Maybe they’re buying it because they have no other choice.
DX: Are there a lot of girls who end up getting hurt doing scenes like that?
VB: Yeah. A very popular Asian girl, in a three way. They ripped her ass. She was bleeding profusely from her ass. Nobody said a word to her. They kept the scene going and they kept wiping her ass and not letting her look around and telling her she was okay. She was out of work for a year.
Oh yeah, this industry will fuck you up. That’s another thing I try to tell the girls too. If you’re not adjusted to having your body run through the mud. If doing trains ain’t some shit you already been doing, you don’t want to come here and do it because no woman’s body is prepared for that kind of action. The girls who can do it are high. I don’t care what nobody says. The girls who are doing these gang bangs and these bukkakes and all this crazy shit that doesn’t make sense, you ain’t sober. You’re not sober when you’re doing it.
DX: So this isn’t the type of stuff that people would do in their every day lives, but more so just a fantasy?
VB: No. I’ve met swingers who are bout it. And they are down to do all the things that porno girls do; only they want to do it. There is a difference and a fine line, and the women who really, really enjoy it aren’t here.
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Edited by - ntfighter on 7/2/2008 5:04:51 PM
Pagoda
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Posted - Jul 2 2008 : 5:44PM
I have a stable of studs, so to speak, that I prefer to watch. They all have different styles, and they all connect well with many of their screen partners. Some guys make the effort to tune in to the specific cues from each individual partner. You can see that. Others just do what's worked the best for them in the past, and hope the chick likes it. Others don't give a rat's ass at all.
I don't blame the performers at all; rather the directors and whomever is demanding this one-note, one-pace fucking. I think the producers misunderstand why certain titles go unpurchased. They're quick to blame female talent, to chew them up and spit them out, when in fact, the consumers might be avoiding the product because of the male talent, or the type of sex depicted, or even the description of the sex itself on the box cover. I think it shows how little male talent are regarded in straight porn. When all you're casting for is inexpensive, reliable wood, that's all you're going to get. That might be good enough for jaded industry types that simply want a smooth, quick work day, but for the viewer relying on the end product at home to provide some masturbatory inspiration, it's not.
Naturally_Perverted
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Posted - Jul 3 2008 : 7:20PM
YES! I AGREE 100%! I hate it when we come across a scene in which the girl is actually ENJOYING the hammer pounding, but then just as she is about to cum the male pornstar gets lazy and just puts on the brakes! WTF is wrong with guys like that?! The girl was about to cum! Do you have no pride as a man? You're making us all look bad!
I remember a scene in '4 On The Whore' with Taryn Thomas and John Strong; Taryn kept begging him to keep pounding her ass harder and faster, and just when she was about to cum he stopped. She said something like "DON'T STOP DON'T STOP! I'M ABOUT TO FUCKING CUM!" So instead of starting to pound her again (he shouldn't have stopped in the first place) until she could cum, John gave it two more thrusts and then pulled out because he wanted her to suck his dick. Men like this are a complete dissapointment to me and should NOT be allowed on set!
I've seen too many scenes like this in which the men keep pounding away, but then just as it's about to get good and the girl starts enjoying it, they stop for some stupid reason. These scenes really piss me off, and if i was a woman i would slap the shit out of a man for doing that to me and tell him to man-the-fuck-up and fuck better.
Don't get me wrong, I understand the performers get tired, but if i was about to stop in the middle of a pounding due to fatigue but then realized that i'm on the verge of making the girl orgasm, i'd pull out everything i have and keep going until she does. AFTER she cums is the time to take a break and get a drink. The cameraman can just cut and the continue the scene later, and we'll all think it's ok because the stud was tired and deserved a break after a job well done.
Hard pounding is hot as hell if it's done right and with a passion damnit!
Edited by - Naturally_Perverted on 7/3/2008 7:27:32 PM
nietzsche
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Posted - Jul 3 2008 : 7:38PM
I thought this thread was going to be about my favorite hobby.
hammer
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Posted - Jul 3 2008 : 8:59PM
Yes! and thanks for bringing this up.I have been wondering if it was just me
 
elgringoviejo58
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Posted - Jul 3 2008 : 9:02PM
Like to see of these stunt cocks get pounded the way they pound the girls.
Pagoda
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Posted - Jul 4 2008 : 12:40AM
For a minute, I thought you were quoting one of my reviews. I recall writing the exact same thing about him 3 years ago.
Naturally_Perverted
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Posted - Jul 4 2008 : 6:28AM
lol guess it just goes to show you how much of a dissapointment it is when some of these so called 'pros' don't satisfy their female co-stars. I'm not saying all of John Strong's scenes are bad, or even most, but that particular scene really pissed me off. I hate it when a man won't give the woman what she wants during sex.
Rayne
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Posted - Jul 4 2008 : 11:31AM
You know what I dont like about todays pornography?? When theres a guy fucking a girl, it seems like...hes totally focused on pumping and pumping and pumping and pumping and pumping and pumping and pumping her over and over til he cums :( but when it comes to lesbian strap-on fucking, theres always an unfair double standard...where the strap-on dyke has to use her hands to hold the dildo while fucking her girlfriend....thats totally unfair and not right!!! :(
Why cant there be more lesbian sex videos showing lesbians having strap-on fucking sex the right way??? Like Debbie Diamond and Nina Hartley used to do it right....Strap on the dildo, grab your girlfriends ass, hips and tits and start pumping right away....Fucking is great, its natural....but when its not done the right way in the lesbian movies...then I say its WRONG AND NEEDS TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER =)
steph_27
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5/07
Posted - Jul 4 2008 : 6:26PM
We're having a rain out for 4th of July. Bummer. But let me say this thread is a bummer too. This griping and whining about Erik Everhard. You guys are NUTS. Some porn we've watched the guys can't half perform, much less keep their dicks hard and make the women cum. Everhard enhances a scene by turning the heat up.
So don't give me this b.s. that Erik Everhard is a bad performer, he's one of the best, because 1) he keeps it hard (hint, not many guys can do that and 2) he's got stamina (hint, not many guys have that, either.)
Gee, I don't know what's with this board, but Everhard gets a bum rap. I don't know if it's jealousy or what.
Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Jul 4 2008 : 10:49PM
Well, while I can't speak on behalf of "many guys", I do know that neither Erik Everhard's erections nor his durability were called into question here, just his "relentless pounding" which, whether you're an Everhard fan or not, is something he does for a fact.
And I'm most certainly not jealous of the guy.
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Naturally_Perverted
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Posted - Jul 5 2008 : 9:12AM
I like Erik, he always succeeds in giving the women he's with what they want. He NEVER stops right when they're about to cum like some guys do. It's not just John Strong, there are a bunch of other guys i've seen doing it to, but i can't recall their names right now. As i said before, the relentless pounding is hot, IF it's done right and with a passion.
Double Vag Lover
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Posted - Jul 5 2008 : 10:36AM
No, I want to see girls pounded that's why I buy gonzo porn.
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Jul 5 2008 : 11:47AM
Given that almost all male porn performers MUST whack themselves off during a porn shoot to actually orgasm, since the orifices of the female performers obviously pale in comparison to their own hands, I always assumed the poundings were simply required stimulation to overcome the numbing effect caused by over-indulgence of viagra and the like.
Who knew it was meant to be "sexy?"
picman
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Posted - Jul 5 2008 : 4:48PM
The constant carping about guys not fucking a woman through orgasm never takes into account the reality of the situation. You're blaming guys for bad or indifferent attitudes, when, in fact, it could simply be that to satisfy her in that moment, he takes the very real chance of also delivering a deeply delivered creampie, never a goal in porn. Altering strokes or pulling out is often a matter of self preservation. Losing a small battle so that he may live to fight on. Maybe the posters here are superheroes in bed, tuned into their partner's needs and ready, willing and able to deliver at all times, but I'm willing to admit to my own human frailty, and as such, an understanding of what the job might entail. You can't seriously believe that most of these guys don't want to make the women cum. I'm sure it's as validating to their egos as it would be to any of us.
As far as the jerk to pop convention, there are also good reasons for this continued practice. Since most pops are external, some manipulation by somebody is usually necessary. It's nice if the woman does the work, but she can't feel the gathering for a strong ejaculation. The guys aren't just looking to cum, but to blast, and with aim if possible. When the woman does it, it usually flies out scattered and diffused, with the male taking the heat for another poor cumshot. I personally favor this anyway, or at least some assistance by the partner. Cupping balls is always nice, and if so many viewers weren't so insecure about their own sexuality, a finger massaging the prostate would be a nice change for the guys that appreciate this kind of action.
btw I like a nice focused pounding as part of a good sport fuck, and I'm willing to bet most women would agree. With scenes running 30 to 40 minutes, there's plenty of time to run through different paces and pleasure for each of the participants as they trade off fucking for themselves, each other, and the camera.
 
gingerlee
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Posted - Jul 5 2008 : 9:13PM
+1 CJ
And I can say that, because I've worked with him. Nice guy, just not my style of an 'enjoyable fuck'.
QuahogPilot
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Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 12:13AM
+1 I agree with nearly everything said here. I sometimes wonder if it would be possible to film a scene "backwards..." i.e. with the cumshot done first (like a quick take of the guy pumping a few times and then pulling out to cum), then redo the makeup on the female talent, and proceed to film the scene from the beginning, splicing the cumshot in at the end. Then there wouldn't be so much to worry about with the male cumming inside the girl when he's giving her what she wants until she comes.
The problem with this lies in the fact that it would be hard to match the rhythm of the initial cumshot take with the end of the sex take, and that it would be hard to predict how the makeup would look at the end of a 30 minute scene. It would be strange to see a girl screwed until she's sweaty with running makeup and then see her take a load on a face that looks totally different.
Just a thought. I'll let the experts figure out the logistics of this scheme.
Naturally_Perverted
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Posted - Jul 6 2008 : 12:57AM
Please don't give me that, it's obvious we take into account the reality of the situation, and the reality is we pay to see professionals, not guys who can't fuck a girl through orgasm. I would understand perfectly if it were a normal guy not able to hold his load in from fucking Taryn, but these guys are doing this for a living, they should be more than capable of withstanding the the pressure to blow for a few more minutes until the girl cums. I'm no superhero; i like everyone else have my limitations and i wouldn't be able to deliver a pounding similar to the ones erik everhard, rocco, manuel etc. deliver because i'm simply not that fit. However, i will sure as hell keep going and give it everything i've got if my woman tells me she's about to cum; there is no way i would let her go unsatisfied when she's about to peak.
I believe that these guys DO want to make the women cum but aren't motivated enough to do it; for example, i want to be a doctor but i'm too lazy to go back to school all over again and go through the hasel of the education process. Maybe they're tired of fucking women over and over again in the same mechanical positions for years and have lost the feel for it. Or maybe they're just lazy. Whatever the case may they don't seem to want to give it their all.
P.S i agree with everything you wrote after what i have you quoted as saying. They could use the women's mouths to get off, but that wouldn't accumulate the pressure and speed required for a good blast.
Edited by - Naturally_Perverted on 7/6/2008 12:58:28 AM
not ruff enuff 4 me
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 3:00PM
i like the pounding.i like the sweat.i,for some reason don't like erik everhard.he annoy's me and takes away from the scene.but with most others,,,i enjoy seeing the man/men pounding away.
now,on the topic of penetration to cum shots,,,i have mixed feelings here.most times i want to see the girl pounded/penetrated to a facial.but,for a kink reason,,sometimes i enjoy the nastiness of watching the creep stand over a starlet,looking down on her,hopefully with his sweat dripping on her upturned face,her hair in hand,,mightilly grasping his erection thinking god-knows-what,,to a nice facial cumshot. PROBLEM is for me,,they ALWAYS cut the jack-off to only the last few seconds.this really upsets me scene after scene. how long were they there doing that over her??? was he talking to her??? was it odd for her to have this strange man doing this??? i want to see the whole experiance!!!
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 3:54PM
No. I'm not tired of it. I prefer it. But some studs do it better than others. I actually like some alternation between pounding, slow fucking and sucking.
alfan
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 6:29PM
I find this topic very interesting, there are guys on this site that are very notable about porn and all its variables. I don't mind a guy slamming girls as long as the girl is into it.
If it is just a stab vest, it does get a little boring. That is why I hate Ben English and Everhard is sometimes over the top.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 6:44PM
I like Everhard most of the time. I did see one scene with him that cracked me up. He was fucking this chick in the ass and he tried to do the whole thing that seems popular in European anal porn. He pulled his cock out, gaped the girl's ass and said "Yes. Beam." but with a completely American accent and a completely monotone voice. I laughed so hard I had to stop it for a while.
terri summers
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 5:04PM
on the endless pounding...i actually prefer it over the soft and romantic stuff... but thats my personal opnion...as for erik everhard, lets just say he is in my top 5 ever for a reason!!
on the subject of actors making want to cum the girls... so they pull out when the girl is almost cumming most of the time, just because they cant hold themselves either then. they might do it for a living, but a sexy girl cumming on your dick is a hard thing to fight, no matter how profesional you are are.. and i always think that if they dont need to pull out at least a few times, we are not having good sex... if i can turn on the actor so much that he has trouble not cumming, it means there is something good and not faked going on!!
then i have met quite a few actors who made me cum during the tape change or something;) as yes they like to go making the girl cum. they are actors, but still men;)not robots who can do everything on command. they can fuck, keep it up in front of lots of people, take a 100 breaks for the camera change, make unreal postions, and still manage to keep it up and fuck good sometimes for hours.. so if he needs to pull out every now and then because he is nearly cumming... i dont think anyone really should complain.
jackthetreacleeater
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10/06
Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 6:21AM
Straight from the horses mouth there. Long live the relentless anal pounding I say. If she's not gaping she's not been fucked properly in my opinion!
Nothing says romance like anal sex.
Algaliarept
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Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 7:00AM
I'll display my ignorance and ask, what does "Beam" mean?
 
oldguy
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Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 9:04AM
Terri, thank you so much for your input here. I think all of us men enjoy the hard pounding of you ladies probably more than anything else we watch in porn. However, I only like it if the ladies really want to be gone over ferociously as you obviously do. Kudos to you for that, how much fun is that for both the fucker and the fuckee! Plus, give us viewers relentness pounding and to hell with the camera angles, lighting, etc. So the scene doesn't film perfectly, so what! Let's see some wonderful gangbangs where everybody is really getting off and not play acting, better for the viewers and the performers too I'd say.
Looking forward to viewing a lot more of your stuff, Terri, and hope you are having a great summer.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 2:46PM
I'm not even really sure. All I really know is it seems to have started in Europe somewhere and quite a few European guys say it every time they gape a woman's ass.
I remember reading something about it where various posters were speculating about what it means. I'm not sure if they ever came to a consensus.
It was just funny because they always say it with a strong European accent and a certain tone of voice. When they do it, it's more like an exclamation. They often bellow it. When Everhard did it, it sounded almost like a question. Or just a monotone statement.
I don't know. It just cracked me up. It's kind of like a guy riding a moped trying to act macho or something like he's riding a Harley. I don't know if that made sense but I spat soda.
Edited by - randomprecision on 7/31/2008 2:49:26 PM
MrMarcus
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Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 4:46PM
I think it comes down to the pussy. Some pussy you just can't fuck mechanically, you have to go in, investigate and make adjustments. And put some feelings into it. If I'm in a relaxed state and know I got sometime to enjoy it, then it becomes a matter of pacing. If it's a hurried scene meant to imply feverish fucking, then it's best to to numb yourself to all sensations and just go at it, aggressively. I still approach it as a girl by girl situation. I'll admit I've had my share of hard-core pound away fucking and a equal serving of "whoa...uh hold on".
For me it still comes down to the girl and making adjustments. The key in any given situation is to make it work to your strengths and avoid your weaknesses. I guess I like the sex to much to diminish the appeal.
Algaliarept
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Posted - Aug 2 2008 : 2:25AM
I too am greatful for her "input" as well!
Algaliarept
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Posted - Aug 2 2008 : 2:29AM
Great post, especially that section.
PS. you must wake up every morning and say to yourself, "Wow! I got to fuck Silvia Saint!" and smile. I would.



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